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Xendie Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:37:00 - [61] Originally by: tiller Originally by: Xtro 2 Sorry if my point wasnt clear, i meant that if i posted on eve-files (and i have) and my image was changed to something else, is that my fault? How many people here do use eve-files or somethign similar, tis just not something youd think of when you link to the file, im 100% sure my pictures are in a safe place but until this post i wouldnt have thought twice about where my pictures are hosted or that someone may change them. In the end its still a hotlink to a picture that i havent hosted myself in a place that i have no futher control over. Ginger was just unlucky, very unlucky idd. yes unlucky, but the fact that the guy who changed it then asked for him to be banned for the picture is inexcusable basically what this boils down to... ginger is banned for posting a hotlink the hoster is guilty of displaying the obscene content and then attempting to get someone banned for it. it's discusting tbh so how do you know that it was him who petitioned it? the amount of crap you guys have spewed out it could be any of several hundred ppl who dont like you and who saw the image. Originally by: "darth solo" bad men came, bad men didnt go home, bad men left containers.
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:37:00 - [62] Edited by: tiller on 05/03/2007 19:34:38 Originally by: Xendie Originally by: Xtro 2 Sorry if my point wasnt clear, i meant that if i posted on eve-files (and i have) and my image was changed to something else, is that my fault? How many people here do use eve-files or somethign similar, tis just not something youd think of when you link to the file, im 100% sure my pictures are in a safe place but until this post i wouldnt have thought twice about where my pictures are hosted or that someone may change them. In the end its still a hotlink to a picture that i havent hosted myself in a place that i have no futher control over. Ginger was just unlucky, very unlucky idd. yes it would be your fault for displaying it in your bio ingame. on the other hand if you download the image from eve-files and host it on your personal webspace then nobody but you can change it. you are responsible for what is shown in your bio not a webspace hoster who is **ed at you stealing bandwith. although chribba's eve-files is well moderated you shouldnt ** him off though as he can change your pics. read this slowly... it may help. ginger is banned for posting a hotlink the hoster is guilty of displaying the obscene content and then attempting to get someone banned for it. the very same guy who hosts the picture asked for banning in a thread about it. go figure...
Skuzapo	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:39:00 - [63] So why did gingewinge think it was the duty of someone else to host and supply bandwidth ? its gm`s bio and his responsibilty for its contents If I run a site with images for public or private viewing , why cant I change them as and when I feel like . ( to clarify I am not involved in this incident ) About 7-8 years ago people playing planetarium linked images i was hosting as there galaxy pics , this created huge amounts of traffic , after asking galaxy commanders to stop linking with no effect , I changed the pics to unacceptable pics and got some people banned ( i got a warning ). gm really was stupid to link to that pic without it being on a site he could control or trust.
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:42:00 - [64] Edited by: tiller on 05/03/2007 19:39:39 Edited by: tiller on 05/03/2007 19:39:08 Originally by: Skuzapo So why did gingewinge think it was the duty of someone else to host and supply bandwidth ? its gm`s bio and his responsibilty for its contents If I run a site with images for public or private viewing , why cant I change them as and when I feel like . ( to clarify I am not involved in this incident ) About 7-8 years ago people playing planetarium linked images i was hosting as there galaxy pics , this created huge amounts of traffic , after asking galaxy commanders to stop linking with no effect , I changed the pics to unacceptable pics and got some people banned ( i got a warning ). gm really was stupid to link to that pic without it being on a site he could control or trust. hotlinking is not a bannable offence m8 changing a image you know is displayed in game to something bannable then asking for that person to be banned is. ffs
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:43:00 - [65] Originally by: Xendie Originally by: Xtro 2 Sorry if my point wasnt clear, i meant that if i posted on eve-files (and i have) and my image was changed to something else, is that my fault? How many people here do use eve-files or somethign similar, tis just not something youd think of when you link to the file, im 100% sure my pictures are in a safe place but until this post i wouldnt have thought twice about where my pictures are hosted or that someone may change them. In the end its still a hotlink to a picture that i havent hosted myself in a place that i have no futher control over. Ginger was just unlucky, very unlucky idd. yes it would be your fault for displaying it in your bio ingame. on the other hand if you download the image from eve-files and host it on your personal webspace then nobody but you can change it. you are responsible for what is shown in your bio not a webspace hoster who is **ed at you stealing bandwith. although chribba's eve-files is well moderated you shouldnt him off though as he can change your pics. difference is tho, chribba sounds like a top lad, i doubt he'd change the picture to something obsene, if it was me i'd replace the picture also, but for something to make that person look an idiot (ie: something funny or sarcastic). But still, its all done and dusted, whatever our opinions, ginge was efficiently done over, i cant see what could be said to change that, the threads more like consoling the family of a deceased member, lots of "im sorry thats bad" etc, but we here cant do anything about it. Xtro 2** - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
Zandramus Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:43:00 - [66] Edited by: Zandramus on 05/03/2007 19:42:19 Wow pretty *** in my opinion if you dont like sum1 infiltrate there corp steal everything they have and turn the leaders against each other so there corporation falls apart. Dont get them banned. Of course this opinion is on what tiller said I dont know if this is the true story of what happened
Taipan Gedscho Taipan Industries	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:44:00 - [67] Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 05/03/2007 19:40:46 Originally by: tiller hotlinking is not a bannable offence m8 lol ofc its not. unless the contents are questionable. and the owner of the webspace can do whatever he wants. to sum it up: suck it up Only you can save mmorpgs - Stop crying for nerfs today!
Zandramus Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:45:00 - [68] Originally by: Taipan Gedscho Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 05/03/2007 19:40:46 Originally by: tiller hotlinking is not a bannable offence m8 lol ofc its not. unless the contents are questionable. and the owner of the webspace can do whatever he wants. to sum it up: suck it up what if I just banned you, would you suck it up?
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:46:00 - [69] Originally by: Taipan Gedscho Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 05/03/2007 19:40:46 Originally by: tiller hotlinking is not a bannable offence m8 lol ofc its not. unless the contents are questionable. and the owner of the webspace can do whatever he wants. to sum it up: suck it up but no they cant change it then petition it. Thats called a exploit.
FooB2 Caldari Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:46:00 - [70] Originally by: Skuzapo So why did gingewinge think it was the duty of someone else to host and supply bandwidth ? its gm`s bio and his responsibilty for its contents If I run a site with images for public or private viewing , why cant I change them as and when I feel like . ( to clarify I am not involved in this incident ) About 7-8 years ago people playing planetarium linked images i was hosting as there galaxy pics , this created huge amounts of traffic , after asking galaxy commanders to stop linking with no effect , I changed the pics to unacceptable pics and got some people banned ( i got a warning ). gm really was stupid to link to that pic without it being on a site he could control or trust. so where does the justification come from for posting that the image he changed offended him and the personw ith it in his bio should be banned? you're saying thats perfectly fine? ive never met ginger, i dont care who he is or who people say he is. but anyone can spot when something has gone "over the line". and this makes the line look like a dot. FYI, there are legitmate places sanctioned by CCP where "things can be discussed" Signature removed, please avoid using images involving relgious symbols like that. -Ivan K
Taipan Gedscho Taipan Industries	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:47:00 - [71] Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 05/03/2007 19:46:19 Originally by: Zandramus what if I just banned you, would you suck it up? depends on what i did to create a bannable offence... of course... i mean how hard is this? i would even feel sorry for ginger if i knew him, no question. but this doesnt change the facts. oh and tiller: changing the contents of the picutre isnt an exploit, but just very tough metagaming. and as i already said, as you already admitted on logging to save your pod (and not to have a walk or anything RLey) youre the last one to complain. Only you can save mmorpgs - Stop crying for nerfs today!
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:49:00 - [72] Originally by: FooB2 Originally by: Skuzapo So why did gingewinge think it was the duty of someone else to host and supply bandwidth ? its gm`s bio and his responsibilty for its contents If I run a site with images for public or private viewing , why cant I change them as and when I feel like . ( to clarify I am not involved in this incident ) About 7-8 years ago people playing planetarium linked images i was hosting as there galaxy pics , this created huge amounts of traffic , after asking galaxy commanders to stop linking with no effect , I changed the pics to unacceptable pics and got some people banned ( i got a warning ). gm really was stupid to link to that pic without it being on a site he could control or trust. so where does the justification come from for posting that the image he changed offended him and the personw ith it in his bio should be banned? you're saying thats perfectly fine? ive never met ginger, i dont care who he is or who people say he is. but anyone can spot when something has gone "over the line". and this makes the line look like a dot. FYI, there are legitmate places sanctioned by CCP where "things can be discussed" exactly, how could it offend him, he was the one hosting it and put it there for one purpose only. It's crazy...
TribalBleb Turbulent	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:50:00 - [73] lame imo, this is obviously not gingers fault so he shouldn't be the one getting banned. This must be a big promotion to you though tiller since you are now the nr 1 pirate in eve for the time being
M00dy Stain of Mind DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:51:00 - [74] Free Ginger!
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:52:00 - [75] Originally by: TribalBleb lame imo, this is obviously not gingers fault so he shouldn't be the one getting banned. This must be a big promotion to you though tiller since you are now the nr 1 pirate in eve for the time being thanks man, and hey, your right /numero uno signing out
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:54:00 - [76] Originally by: M00dy Free Ginger!
FooB2 Caldari Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.03.05 19:59:00 - [77] FYI i started a thread on the textboard but blame DS because it will take about half an hour to show. Signature removed, please avoid using images involving relgious symbols like that. -Ivan K
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:08:00 - [78] I've never even seen any of you thunder**s, so don't try the "lol i kill j00 lol" argument. It's a lame trick to pull on Ginger, but he asked for it. All annoying, pompous ("Number one PvPer" my ass) people in EVE need to be knocked down a notch now and then. Although, I'd have thought Ginger's remarkable carrier losses are doing that nicely, but that's beside the point. I approve of this. Originally by:** Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:11:00 - [79] Originally by: Nicocat I've never even seen any of you thunder****s, so don't try the "lol i kill j00 lol" argument. It's a lame trick to pull on Ginger, but he asked for it. All annoying, pompous ("Number one PvPer" my ass) people in EVE need to be knocked down a notch now and then. Although, I'd have thought Ginger's remarkable carrier losses are doing that nicely, but that's beside the point. I approve of this. ginger is one of the few pilots I know who uses a carrier daily in pvp, hence the losses... most carrier guys sit shaking behind a pos shield or within 5m of a station... if you have not lost a few carriers, then you don't even deserve to fly one imho as you don't take enough risks to warrant it's use.
Enders Vaal SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:15:00 - [80] CCP can't ban someone for changing an image on their own hosting service Ginger was hotlinking (ie stealing bandwidth) Changing images to obscene things because people are stealing your bandwidth is a common practice. It's Gingers fault. Done deal. --- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
Noig Lamaroz Erasers inc.	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:17:00 - [81] Originally by: tiller I hope this gets sorted as soon, or I'm just outta here. ps: anyone wanna come play WOW ? Can I have your stuff? No, I dont wanna come play WoW - I wanna get rid of my acct.
F Apparition Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:18:00 - [82] Any petition response yet? Originally by: Derek If EVE gave you oral sex every time you used it people would still complain.
MrMann Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:22:00 - [83] Giner shot at an Alt of mine once. He missed. THHHPTTHHHH Other than that I really don;t know much about him TBH. However, And assuming tiller's position is correct (which I have no reason to believe it is not) Sure linking a pic from a different host may be unwise. But that's not really the issue. It's an issue of intent. He never intended to have a banable pic in his bio and I doubt he ever really thought that this could happen. I wouldn't have. Sounds like CCP has the info they need so hopefully it will get handled soon. _______________________________________________ Proud Member of the Greater Tribute Security Service.
Sixtyniner The Movement	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:22:00 - [84] Am I the only one who thinks this is bull****? Ginger had nothing to do with the "new" picture which was replaced with old one, hence CCP banning HIM for something someone else did. Sure, the link was in Ginger¦s bio but the person behind that account didnt do anything wrong, and I really hope there is evidence proving that the picture were actually replaced, because in my opinion CCP should really unban Ginger. Btw, I don¦t know Ginger or anyone related to this issue.
Ryas Nia Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:28:00 - [85] if this is really the case its a sad day for eve :( im not a big ginger fan as he can be rather annoying when smacking in local. But being banned for someone else changing a picture URL is just not right. I hope CCP reconsider this ban, and do the normal thing and nerf the bio not the player.
Dionisius Gallente Vagabundos THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:43:00 - [86] Seems like Ginger was pretty much pwned by the host owner. It's actually ginger's fault, and it should serve him as a lesson not to use other people's bandwith or hotlinkin without permission, and more important, not puting links that you canot control into YOUR OWN BIO. So quit whining like a carebear, its Gingers own fault. _______________________ What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
Sixtyniner The Movement	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:45:00 - [87] Originally by: Dionisius Seems like Ginger was pretty much pwned by the host owner. It's actually ginger's fault, and it should serve him as a lesson not to use other people's bandwith or hotlinkin without permission, and more important, not puting links that you canot control into YOUR OWN BIO. So quit whining like a carebear, its Gingers own fault. Well, the punishment for using others bandwith shouldn¦t be a ban from a game.
Xori Ruscuv The Scope	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:47:00 - [88] Sorry to hear, that's really screwed up. Whoever did this to Ginger... shame on you.
Xendie Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.05 20:57:00 - [89] Originally by: tiller read this slowly... it may help. ginger is banned for posting a hotlink the hoster is guilty of displaying the obscene content and then attempting to get someone banned for it. the very same guy who hosts the picture asked for banning in a thread about it. go figure... you still dont get it do you? the website hoster is not accountable for any images that ginger minger steals and links to. if he finds out someone who does link his images without credit or asking permission he are fully within his rights to delete or change the picture to whatever he wants. as for the exploit argument, silly as ccp has no jurisdiction over the website only for what the person owning the account displays and the player displaying the pic is accountable for his bio not the website owner. Originally by: "darth solo" bad men came, bad men didnt go home, bad men left containers.
Katarina Hetiako Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.03.05 21:02:00 - [90] Everything but the facts are conspiracy... Ginger had a hotlink in his bio leading to bannable content, his bio, his problem, his ban... unfortunate, but let the lesson be learnt. Yup, I'm an alt... if only you could see my main... he's so strong and tough!

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