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Mjolnir
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Posted - 2003.12.18 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mjolnir on 18/12/2003 11:09:53 I never a lot of mission b4 the hot fix today, it seems they went from REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD, to utter crap. On the last couple missions ive taken the bonus has either been extra cash or Toxic Waste. WOOOHOOO gotta love that toxic waste. Its a pretty useless comidity, and if im not mistaken the sale of it is almost worthless too. Now if toxic waste could give you superpowers then it wouldnt be so bad.
Anyways I digress, when will CCP stop making such extreme changes to the things and find a better balance?
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.12.18 11:04:00 -
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Anybody want half a million cigarettes?
I'm assuming 50 20-packs in a box, and I have 5,600 boxes thanks to the last two missions I did.
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Kyndoku
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:16:00 -
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Ive got one copy of Pax Ammaria. Just the one mind, so y'know, might have to just be a page each. 
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Victoria Madison
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:21:00 -
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Oh yeah?
I've got enough planetary vehicles now to open up my own used car lot!!!!
What gives, Zrakor?

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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:24:00 -
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So far post patch I've gotten as bonus rewards: 1 Plasma Physics 1 Molecular Engineering 5 Rocket Science
Seems alright...though the trade goods are slightly annoying as I'll have to grab an indy to take them back to base
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Zrakor
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Posted - 2003.12.18 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: Zrakor on 18/12/2003 16:56:46
The time bonus rewards now have, as they were originally designed to have, either:
1) Money 2) Commodities being supplied by the agents corporation. If these are "worthless" then the person responsible for commodities on the market needs to take a look at that. But I suspect you are able to sell them to an NPC corp, you just need to find where the demand is. 3) Tech level 2 components, skills and tools. These are actually quite valuable, and are ONLY available through agent mission time bonus rewards. Sell them on the market to the manufacturers, that's the point of having them there.
The fact that the time bonus rewards were sometimes a million ISK worth of items for ferrying garbage to a nearby station was simply a bug which happened due to a bit of a misunderstanding between some people in gamedesign and Papa, and had nothing to do with us balancing the system.
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.12.19 00:21:00 -
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2) Well, I did not found any buyer for toxic waste so far, which i get TONS of as "bonus" from my agent (Roden shipyards).
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Lucre
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Posted - 2003.12.19 01:46:00 -
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Tend to agree. Last night I had four bonuses of adv tech (though no skills) and a couple of score EW and energy transfer modules of various kinds. Tonight I had ... 100 hydrogen batteries, 200 hydrogen batteries, 100 hydrogen batteries, another 100 hydrogen batteries - and then just for a change - 400 hydrogen batteries.
Okay, so I've sold them for a quite reasonable amount now, but it does get a bit tedious!.
And I *still* haven't had any research skills... (Grrrr)
(Also had exactly the same kill mission (in same system) *three* times tonight. A bit more variety would be nice...)
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Aldelphius
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Posted - 2003.12.19 02:10:00 -
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best i got was a DCM unlimited bp, now i just have to decide what i want to do with it.
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Nerhtal Al'Thali
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Posted - 2003.12.19 02:20:00 -
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if you dont like your agent go find a new one?
its always an option
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.19 02:58:00 -
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Quote: 2) Well, I did not found any buyer for toxic waste so far, which i get TONS of as "bonus" from my agent (Roden shipyards).
Salvation Angels Corporation
Guess drugs really are bad for people 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.12.19 09:15:00 -
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Tranporting goods worth around 500k 60 jumps (there & back), mostly through 0.0 space..
It would be more profitable just to trash them and mining feldspar in 1.0 in the time I would need to transport them.
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Li'l Mol
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Posted - 2003.12.19 10:24:00 -
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ive had some really nice bonus items: so far... 14 molecular engineering skill packs (selling fast) a couple R.DB tools (for BP duplication) 64 neuclear reactor units 11k reports 8k holoreels and a few planetary vehicles
all in all im quite happy 
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Albar Gray
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Posted - 2003.12.19 11:15:00 -
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Well afetr a real bad start last night things picked up quite well.
2 'IMPORTANT' missions for my lvl 2 agents did my corp standing a world of good.
I then got 3 of the new science skills (2 copies of one of them) and a few of the T2 goodies.
That said I am using several agents 1 at lvl 1 4 at lvl 2
Another 0.5 corp rating and I'll have a lvl 3 agent in the same station I can use. ----------------------------------------------- IÆm not schizophrenic... ThatÆs my alt
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.12.19 11:22:00 -
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Well if anyone ever need any silicate glass i've got a rather large quantity in my hanger.
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Bruen
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Posted - 2003.12.19 12:00:00 -
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Yesterday evening I received a "reward" of over 4000 barrels of Toxic Waste for completing 4 missions early.
How is this a reward at all? ----------------- The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine. - J. B. S. Haldane |

Relic
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Posted - 2003.12.19 13:53:00 -
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Well so far
13 x Evasive Maneuvering skill 23 x Spaceship Command (starting skill !!!) 9 x Fusion S Blueprint
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Megagame
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Posted - 2003.12.19 13:54:00 -
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I got alot of consumers eletronics.
anyone wants a new tv or video 
special prise for you 
Now I become death, the destroyer of worlds |

CubePusher
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Posted - 2003.12.19 14:03:00 -
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Well i've got enough seed's fetillizer and soil to put stock up any gardening center for months aswell as other classic items that everyone wants......like GARBAGE!! But on the upside i did get some pretty nice stuff aswell, 12 Microwave S BP's loads of tech 2 tools which isnt to bad considering im only using a lvl 2 agent. And it is nice to get an item for a reward even if it is garbage, metaphorically or literally.
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Papa Smurf
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Posted - 2003.12.19 14:51:00 -
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Yes, the bonus change was too extreme. Had to do something fast.
Anyhow, improving it a bit in the next update. Now agents will start dishing out non-commodities again from their corp sell's list, but no crazy stuff like advanced skills and BPs ;)
Also countering the "sisters of eve and interbus are crud" a bit, but they'll still not dish out tech II, just more "corp sell's" stuff.
Note that last update had also made level 2 agents not nice as level 3. Level 3 should be pretty ok though.
Let's see how this tune job works out, before going any further.
p.s. the rocket science skillpack coming out in such large numbers was a tuning bug.
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Dirus
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Posted - 2003.12.19 16:02:00 -
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I got yesterday a Plasma Physics and Gallente Starship Manufacturing skill, a perception implant, 15500 tobacco, 325 planetary vehicles, couple looted piles of broosters, a total of around 150 tech2 manufacturing components, and 20 tech2 manufacturing tools.
Not bad for 10 hours of agent missions :P
(+14 quality/+22 effective quality lvl3 internal security agent) ********** Everyone deserves to die. You go first.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.19 17:32:00 -
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Quote: Yes, the bonus change was too extreme. Had to do something fast.
Anyhow, improving it a bit in the next update. Now agents will start dishing out non-commodities again from their corp sell's list, but no crazy stuff like advanced skills and BPs ;)
Also countering the "sisters of eve and interbus are crud" a bit, but they'll still not dish out tech II, just more "corp sell's" stuff.
Note that last update had also made level 2 agents not nice as level 3. Level 3 should be pretty ok though.
Let's see how this tune job works out, before going any further.
p.s. the rocket science skillpack coming out in such large numbers was a tuning bug.
Just got 5 Core Complexion Inc RD.B as a single bonus for a 4 jump mission.
Lvl 3 agent with a quality of -17 and effective quality of -13. Faction standing of 3.16, Corp of 2.52, Agent of 2.95.
Are multiple rewards supposed to happen like that?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Ooke
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Posted - 2003.12.19 17:39:00 -
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I've had some missions with 2 rewards for different time limits.
one of my agents likes frozen food, another likes robotics, guess which I'll be using more often...
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Yuri Mengeroth
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Posted - 2003.12.19 17:55:00 -
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What are they doing about agent who says "unhandled exception..." message when asked for work?
Also the expire bug from the other day dropped my lvl 3 agent standing below required, when will that be fixed?
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