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Noah Reese
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Posted - 2016.07.21 14:03:10 -
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Dibz wrote:Noah Reese wrote:Are you implying that the Valk forums look good, are easily readable and an improvement over what we have atm? They're better to read on a phone than the EVE forums.
Oh sure, but apart from that they are worse to read on a PC. EVE is a PC game, why actively choose to make it worse for that just to support something else.
It's not as if readability on PCs and smartphones is mutually exclusive, if one puts in the effort you can achieve both but that of course takes effort, talent and the drive to excel. Not the "that'll do" mentality that has plagued CCP for so many years now. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12612
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Posted - 2016.07.21 19:05:27 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:I'm not talking about the concept! First serious faxing was in the Napoleonic Wars. I'm talking about the modern variation of the fax machine and the modern version of email. Also, the first electronic posting forums predated the mid 1980's as well, I'm referring to wide adoption times of the various technologies. Taking me out of context... Bad Bumble... no biscuit.
But..but...the first commercial fax machines were introduced around the '20's!
Quote: By the late 1940s, radiofax receivers were sufficiently miniaturized to be fitted beneath the dashboard of Western Union's "Telecar" telegram delivery vehicles.[7]
Facsimile is facsimile!
vOv
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1154
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Posted - 2016.07.21 19:51:41 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:I'm referring to wide adoption times of the various technologies. That sort of depended on the business you were working for back then.
Remove insurance.
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Luca Lure
Obertura
74
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Posted - 2016.07.21 20:32:31 -
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Dorado wrote:Update these forums!
Get a bigger phone, turn it 90 degrees. Fixed your problem. That way they can focus on game development.
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The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.
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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
255
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Posted - 2016.07.22 05:47:29 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Can't win them all, eh CCP Falcon? One says the Valkyrie forums looks like utter ****, another will pop in to say thanks with a smile. Give them all the best chocolate chip cookies in the world and a few will want almond cookies instead. Especially with us, the Eve playerbase, no matter what you do someone will find a reason to *****...some even ***** for no reason at all. You know, human logic and all that.
no the fact it's not eve like at all.. it's like a pokemon site. seriously stop being such a kiss ass. the forums are fine just fix stuff |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
13812
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Posted - 2016.07.22 06:52:16 -
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tiberiusric wrote:Sobaan Tali wrote:Can't win them all, eh CCP Falcon? One says the Valkyrie forums looks like utter ****, another will pop in to say thanks with a smile. Give them all the best chocolate chip cookies in the world and a few will want almond cookies instead. Especially with us, the Eve playerbase, no matter what you do someone will find a reason to *****...some even ***** for no reason at all. You know, human logic and all that. no the fact it's not eve like at all.. it's like a pokemon site. seriously stop being such a kiss ass. the forums are fine just fix stuff http://www.pokemon.com/us/ Pokemon site is better.
I give you ( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ Boarding bays Gÿá
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
867
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Posted - 2016.07.22 09:29:34 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:We're actually considering swapping this forum software out for Discourse. We're already using it for the EVE Valkyrie ForumsGo take a look at the layout and see if you like it. Currently working on a proposal and list of requirements for it over the summer Whatever you change, don't change it to this... I have no idea how it looks on my smartphone, but on my computer screen it doesn't look nice... Maybe it isn't bad a idea, to make a mobile version that can be used concurrently with the forums designed for computer use. EVE is not a game for the smartphone, and accordingly people should have access to the forums through their computers in the most optimal way. |
Ni Neith
Hedion University Amarr Empire
49
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Posted - 2016.07.22 13:35:19 -
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Dorado wrote:Update these forums!
I have a dumb phone, it is perfect for my dumb phone. Don't change anything. |
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
533
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Posted - 2016.07.22 19:01:43 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:We're actually considering swapping this forum software out for Discourse. We're already using it for the EVE Valkyrie ForumsGo take a look at the layout and see if you like it. Currently working on a proposal and list of requirements for it over the summer Please don't have a white-on-black layout like the Valkyrie forums are. That really messes with the eyes when you have to work with it for any amount of time. It looks good at-a-glance, but it's terrible for reading. The White-on-gray is all right.
Also, white-on-yellow... Just... why?
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
80
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Posted - 2016.07.23 19:41:01 -
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Heh, smartphone layout... Wheres the FFing app?
I mean, even if it is only to read your evemail, check your market, stats, server, stuff like that.
oh well... |
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Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries Voxis Accord
86
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Posted - 2016.07.24 05:37:23 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:We're actually considering swapping this forum software out for Discourse. We're already using it for the EVE Valkyrie ForumsGo take a look at the layout and see if you like it. Currently working on a proposal and list of requirements for it over the summer
Horrible.
In more words, this:
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote: Whatever you change, don't change it to this... I have no idea how it looks on my smartphone, but on my computer screen it doesn't look nice... Maybe it isn't bad a idea, to make a mobile version that can be used concurrently with the forums designed for computer use. EVE is not a game for the smartphone, and accordingly people should have access to the forums through their computers in the most optimal way.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
6116
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Posted - 2016.07.24 13:46:19 -
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000Hunter000 wrote:Heh, smartphone layout... Wheres the FFing app? I mean, even if it is only to read your evemail, check your market, stats, server, stuff like that. oh well...
It's coming.
Announced at fanfest, talking about Beta in the summer. (it's not autumn yet, so they're on track)
Woo! CSM XI!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
78
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Posted - 2016.07.25 01:42:36 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:000Hunter000 wrote:Heh, smartphone layout... Wheres the FFing app? I mean, even if it is only to read your evemail, check your market, stats, server, stuff like that. oh well... It's coming. Announced at fanfest, talking about Beta in the summer. (it's not autumn yet, so they're on track) but...... Summer is almost over. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8411
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Posted - 2016.07.25 01:48:38 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote: but...... Summer is almost over.
And winter is coming...
Something, something...watch what they do, something, something.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
78
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Posted - 2016.07.25 08:07:08 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote: but...... Summer is almost over.
And winter is coming... Something, something... watch what they do, something, something. lol, I mean lets be honest. they showed off the new Dominix model 2.5 years ago. Where is it? Oh lets not forget the paintbooth lol. Too many microtransactions. |
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CCP Falcon
13058
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Posted - 2016.07.28 10:55:29 -
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Some great feedback in this thread, will pass it on to the web guys
CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
17719
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Posted - 2016.07.28 10:58:42 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Some great feedback in this thread, will pass it on to the web guys
Go poke the right people about the potato upgrage too and I'll bring more freddos |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
329
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Posted - 2016.07.28 11:08:26 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:lol, I mean lets be honest. they showed off the new Dominix model 2.5 years ago. Where is it? In the game, afaik. Has been for a few months now.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
185
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Posted - 2016.07.28 11:23:34 -
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I dont understand how people can prefer mobile forums over classic PC forums. The designs for mobile devices are unclear and crammed. I get claustrophobia when i look at them.
EVE Online is a PC game, not a crappy mobile game. Most EVE players play on multiple 24" screens, not one 6" screen. Why the hell should we limit ourselfs to tiny 6" screens when it comes to forum design? That would be regression. |
baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
17719
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Posted - 2016.07.28 11:26:14 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:I dont understand how people can prefer mobile forums over classic PC forums. The designs for mobile devices are unclear and crammed. I get claustrophobia when i look at them.
EVE Online is a PC game, not a crappy mobile game. Most EVE players play on multiple 24" screens, not one 6" screen. Why the hell should we limit ourselfs to tiny 6" screens when it comes to forum design? That would be regression.
PC setups tend to be a little less, mobile, than a phone. |
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KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
384
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Posted - 2016.07.28 18:42:12 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Some great feedback in this thread, will pass it on to the web guys EvE has "web guys?" What do they do all day?
And only "guys?"
KB
Dum Spiro Spero
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Gibbeous Moon
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
20
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Posted - 2016.07.28 21:19:19 -
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KaarBaak wrote: EvE has "web guys?" What do they do all day?
Hopefully, stop. |
Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing
130
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Posted - 2016.07.28 21:39:24 -
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As a web designer specializing in "responsive design" (making sure sites look good no matter what device they're viewed on), let me tell y'all something: It is not a zero sum game. You can make a site look good on PCs and on smartphones and on everything in between, at the same time, without compromising any part of the design on any of those for the sake of the others. How? Media queries. Media queries are blocks of style code that come into effect only when their conditions (e.g. a minimum or maximum screen width) are met. They are very simple for a web designer to take advantage of. (Fun fact: the screen width condition used is usually one that responds to the width of the browser, not the total width of the screen, so on a "responsive" site you can just resize your browser to see how the design changes for different widths.) |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
8461
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Posted - 2016.07.28 23:18:11 -
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KaarBaak wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Some great feedback in this thread, will pass it on to the web guys EvE has "web guys?" What do they do all day?
They lurk around the office all day making "phssssht!!!" noises to satisfy middle-management types.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
90
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Posted - 2016.07.29 03:49:04 -
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Doc Fury wrote:KaarBaak wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Some great feedback in this thread, will pass it on to the web guys EvE has "web guys?" What do they do all day? They lurk around the office making "phssssht!!!" noises to satisfy the whims of middle-management types. . what do you think IT guys would do in a programming business... |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
498
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Posted - 2016.07.29 05:13:57 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:It's current year! Where is my free nuclear-fusion powered flying Porsche?!!1!
If it helps, my Sierra can push ye up to 88 mph (if downhill and the wind is right). |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
498
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Posted - 2016.07.29 05:19:13 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:We're actually considering swapping this forum software out for Discourse. We're already using it for the EVE Valkyrie ForumsGo take a look at the layout and see if you like it. Currently working on a proposal and list of requirements for it over the summer
I don't suppose I should take screenshots to take the point home? THESE forums I can read perfectly and are beautiful to behold (Yay \o/ ) the Valkyrie one? Can't navitage, can't read; way too cluttered man, no clear separation lines, font looks way too thin and it's lacking colour.
Can't we just keep what we've got here pretty please?
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
1259
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Posted - 2016.07.30 18:26:49 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:We're actually considering swapping this forum software out for Discourse. We're already using it for the EVE Valkyrie ForumsGo take a look at the layout and see if you like it. Currently working on a proposal and list of requirements for it over the summer
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
If anyone thinks these forums are buggy and problematic, go take a look at the daily wtf. They swapped out for Discourse a while back as a part of a plan to intentionally break things so that the Discourse team would have the opportunity to fix things.
Well, opportunities have been found and quite a lot of them are simply not going to be addressed because of the vision the discourse team has for the way things should work.
Atwood was originally part of the plan, but a lot of bad blood developed pretty quickly when he and d-team realized just what a bad place the software was in, and the dwtf crowd realized that they were stuck with permanently broken forums.
Carefull what you wish for, people. There are worse forums platforms out there than this one.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
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Armelthelae Shikinami
Giant Robot Factory White Legion.
1
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Posted - 2016.07.31 19:13:25 -
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Glathull wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:We're actually considering swapping this forum software out for Discourse. We're already using it for the EVE Valkyrie ForumsGo take a look at the layout and see if you like it. Currently working on a proposal and list of requirements for it over the summer NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! If anyone thinks these forums are buggy and problematic, go take a look at the daily wtf. They swapped out for Discourse a while back as a part of a plan to intentionally break things so that the Discourse team would have the opportunity to fix things. Well, opportunities have been found and quite a lot of them are simply not going to be addressed because of the vision the discourse team has for the way things should work. Atwood was originally part of the plan, but a lot of bad blood developed pretty quickly when he and d-team realized just what a bad place the software was in, and the dwtf crowd realized that they were stuck with permanently broken forums. Carefull what you wish for, people. There are worse forums platforms out there than this one.
Just coming to say, TDWTF forums no longer run Discourse. They swapped over to NodeBB a while back, so going over there now wouldn't be a fair assessment, unless you just read the major bug thread from Discourse (this one)
You're absolutely right though, Atwood and crew saw what the TDWTF users could poke holes in, ***** about, and find as ways to break the software and basically did the equivalent of "I'm taking my ball and going home". Went so far as to ban most of the known TDWTF crew from the development/bugtracker instance too, from what I recall. |
Spc One
The Chodak Void Alliance
302
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Posted - 2016.07.31 23:31:54 -
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Keep forms as they are now. They're very clean / clean to read and i like them as they are.
Alot of modern mobile phones have resolution of at least 1280x720 so viewing forums on mobile should be ok.
EVE Valkyrie Forums are just confusing, very hard to read on desktop, i don't like it.
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