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Godagast Goudiyah Amarr Viceroy's Office Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.03.09 20:34:00 - [1] Many things get mentioned often when people talk about why they like EVE Online. The skill system that works without grinding, the single unsharded server, the player-driven economy, the PvP, the overall complexity of the game. There is another thing which I love about the game, but I haven't seen it mentioned by anyone else. It has to do with the setting, which is why I'm posting about it in this section of the forum. I love the fact that there are no aliens in the universe. True, aliens is something that many people automatically associate with science fiction - some would even say it isn't science fiction without them! That's nonsense, of course, but it is a fact that most popular science fiction universes have a myriad of alien races. Star Wars, Star Trek, the Traveller universe, the Wing Commander universe, and so on. However, what annoys me about all of them is that these creatures are not really "alien" at all. Most of them are very human-like and "anthropocentric", as the term goes. Quite often, they are simply homo sapiens with a minor personality twist - like "logical" Mr. Spock. Or they are patterned on some form of animal which we have on Earth - there have been "cat people" aliens like the Kilrathi from Wing Commander, "dog people", "insect people", "octopus people"... For crying out loud, it's so unimaginative! If those are the "aliens" we are going to get, then I'd rather have none at all. Only a handful of science fiction settings has really explored the potential of alien creatures, by giving them a true flavour and not merely making them a slight variation of homo sapiens or animal. Take a look at the stories by Arthur C. Clarke or Stanislaw Lem, where they are really weird and mysterious. But those settings are few and far between. Usually, you have cuddly ET's and wise, human-like sages. On the other hand, there are science fiction settings that have done very interesting and exciting things with an all-human universe (or close to it), like Dune. Or EVE Online. I'm very happy with just having different cultures like the Amarr, the Caldari, the Gallente, the Minmatar. Not only is there a certain purity in that concept, it also sets the universe apart from games like Star Wars Galaxies - or from a fantasy universe like World of Warcraft, for that matter, where you also have various playable non-human races. Well done, and I hope it stays that way. No cat people please, ever! As far as "aliens" go, the Jove already fill that niche very nicely.
Ly'sol	Posted - 2007.03.10 07:29:00 - [2] you and i think a like. You should watch Firefly. Click here for Lysol's Linky Library-last updated 30NOV06
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.11 04:33:00 - [3] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 11/03/2007 04:29:38 Incidentally, Star Trek explains why most species in our galaxy are very similar. (and agreed about the no aliens thing, it does work) - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.
Jei'son Bladesmith Caldari Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium	Posted - 2007.03.11 04:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 11/03/2007 04:29:38 Incidentally, Star Trek explains why most species in our galaxy are very similar. (and agreed about the no aliens thing, it does work) ya limited CGI budget :) *☼☼☼ Confidence keeps you alive...cockiness will get you podded ☼☼☼*
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.11 04:43:00 - [5] Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 11/03/2007 04:29:38 Incidentally, Star Trek explains why most species in our galaxy are very similar. (and agreed about the no aliens thing, it does work) ya limited CGI budget :) No, common DNA seeded throughout the galaxy. But you were close. - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.
Pellaeon DuGalle Caldari Deep Black Industries	Posted - 2007.03.11 04:48:00 - [6] I want Pkunks! ------------------- "There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible."
Cygnus Zhada Amarr Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.11 04:56:00 - [7] Edited by: Cygnus Zhada on 11/03/2007 04:52:52 stating the theory that DNA is used throughout the universe as a constant which provides life a FACT is beyond my belief, it's more than egocentric, it's c-ocky.
Inertia Foryu Caldari Quantum Warfare Research and Development	Posted - 2007.03.11 05:02:00 - [8] /signed I am so glad there are no lizard people in this game! Thank you for the nice post. N.E.R.T. ------ Sci-Fi Fan? Geek? The WarpZone Podcast
Alexis Machine Minmatar Gypsies	Posted - 2007.03.11 05:25:00 - [9] We do have alien life, but none sentient. I wonder how alien the descendants on the other side of the Eve Gate would have to seem. We think the Jove are badass.. Earth, as far as we know, never had to restart civilization from what just so happened to be in the ships that went through. o.O
Prophet Jurah Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.11 06:23:00 - [10] Actualy eve does have aliens, just not sentient ones. There are things like furriers and slaver hounds and other animals though.
Conrad Bland	Posted - 2007.03.11 07:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 11/03/2007 04:29:38 Incidentally, Star Trek explains why most species in our galaxy are very similar. (and agreed about the no aliens thing, it does work) ya limited CGI budget :) No, common DNA seeded throughout the galaxy. But you were close. Actually, the reason is because there are only so many different kinds of prosthetic foreheads your special effects dept can design...
Steph Wing Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.11 07:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Edited by: Cygnus Zhada on 11/03/2007 04:52:52 stating the theory that DNA is used throughout the universe as a constant which provides life a FACT is beyond my belief, it's more than egocentric, it's c-ocky. They actually pulled it off quite well. It was among my favorite episodes. --- "I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
Evelyn Lavi Independent Fleet O X I D E	Posted - 2007.03.11 08:11:00 - [13] I wholeheartedly agree with the OP! Aliens are a cop-out, basically the writers saying "I got nothing," then making broad, sweeping generalizations of so-called alien species, turning what should be an ethnic group (or a cultural cliche) and making it into a full-blown species, supposedly developed apart from human culture (and all too often, resembling it far too much). The human race is usually, in sci-fi circles, called "the most diverse of known sentient races" because the other stuff they came up with lacked as much diversity. Come on, there's always the snobbish, intellectual guys, the "honorable warrior" guys with the silly grunting language, so on so forth... and they're always bipedals, and usually are just humans with silly ears or headpieces. So yeah, anyway, aliens suck!
Sovy Kurosei Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.11 08:29:00 - [14] Originally by: Godagast Goudiyah I love the fact that there are no aliens in the universe. There are sentient aliens in Eve Online. Or, rather, the remains of a sentient alien race. Originally by: Godagast Goudiyah No cat people please, ever! Originally by: Inertia Foryu I am so glad there are no lizard people in this game! ___________________ Feel free to contact me in-game or join my public channel THERI-Public.
Reiya Masumi Caldari Nagaisu Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.11 09:18:00 - [15] Edited by: Reiya Masumi on 11/03/2007 09:15:39 What about The Order? According to the backstories the Jove consider them to be no longer human.
Mi Lai Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.11 09:36:00 - [16] I'm sad. I wanted to be a Space-Orc (j/k) Your signature was inappropriate, please email us to find out why -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.03.11 09:38:00 - [17] Aren't the Joves fighting an alien sentient race..... Galactic Express Recruitment Post Thoughts expressed are mine and
Catogo	Posted - 2007.03.11 09:59:00 - [18] There are aliens... They're just non-sentient or dead (e.g. Sleeper, Takmahl, Talocan, & Yan Jung). Eventually I would love to see aliens introduced to Eve in a storyline npc/actor fashion. Then after a couple years (if Eve is still around), they become playable.
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2007.03.11 10:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Inertia Foryu I am so glad there are no lizard people in this game! I knew TomB and his pals were just ugly humans, not some lizard race. King Liu is RIGHT!!
Johnny Santos Beginning of the End	Posted - 2007.03.11 10:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Pellaeon DuGalle I want Pkunks! Closest thing to pkunks are the Jericho Fraction, at least the way I remember em when they 1st formed and some crazy chick dude changed their name. Anyhow. GOOD POINT, aliens suck. jove are the closest or sanshas and if aliens were added theyd have to be a little more mysterious like the very last enemy in the wing commander game series
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:18:00 - [21] No aliens? Hmm, but what about those rogue drones? Especially those in the new regions. Certainly they have some sort of intelligence, well limited, but still! I agree with the op, i like that Eve has no fancy alien races which we can play, all is based on human race and that makes a lot of sense!
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:23:00 - [22] Originally by: Prophet Jurah Actualy eve does have aliens, just not sentient ones. There are things like furriers and slaver hounds and other animals though. Are you sure they are native? I always thought that they are evolved from animals that the human settlers brought with them. Also, sentience = the ability to experience suffering (e.g: pain, hunger), so furriers and stuff are sentient. Trees aren't sentient. --- Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Prophet Jurah Actualy eve does have aliens, just not sentient ones. There are things like furriers and slaver hounds and other animals though. Are you sure they are native? I always thought that they are evolved from animals that the human settlers brought with them. Also, sentience = the ability to experience suffering (e.g: pain, hunger), so furriers and stuff are sentient. Trees aren't sentient. Well, trees exchange information through their roots and fungi when the weather changes etc... So they at least "communicate"... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Toros Revoke STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:40:00 - [24] Sapient then, we can all agree that tree's aren't too clever. If they were, they'd have done something about us by now
Sha'blach Amarr Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:42:00 - [25] Actually... it doesnt mean the ability to feel pain, cause even an ant can do that. It means the ability to know that it knows that it exists. Also the ability to know that it knows where it is. iow: the ability to think with logic and intelligence. sen+tient (sĕn'shənt, -shē-ənt) adj. 1. Having sense perception; conscious. sen+tient (sĕn'shənt, -shē-ənt) pronunciation adj. 1. Having sense perception; conscious: ôThe living knew themselves just sentient puppets on God's stageö (T.E. Lawrence). sentient adjective 1. Marked by comprehension, cognizance, and perception: alive, awake, aware, cognizant, sensible, wise1. Slang hip. Idioms: on to. See knowledge/ignorance. ------------ *Peregrinus Amarria*
Celeste Coeval	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:47:00 - [26] Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 11/03/2007 11:44:48 Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Prophet Jurah Actualy eve does have aliens, just not sentient ones. There are things like furriers and slaver hounds and other animals though. Are you sure they are native? I always thought that they are evolved from animals that the human settlers brought with them. Also, sentience = the ability to experience suffering (e.g: pain, hunger), so furriers and stuff are sentient. Trees aren't sentient. Recent studies show that plants do experience a form of pain. Linkage Linkage2 "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
Jarjar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.11 13:06:00 - [27] Originally by: Celeste Coeval Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 11/03/2007 11:44:48 Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Prophet Jurah Actualy eve does have aliens, just not sentient ones. There are things like furriers and slaver hounds and other animals though. Are you sure they are native? I always thought that they are evolved from animals that the human settlers brought with them. Also, sentience = the ability to experience suffering (e.g: pain, hunger), so furriers and stuff are sentient. Trees aren't sentient. Recent studies show that plants do experience a form of pain. Linkage Linkage2 Yeah, BBSpot is a great source of reliable news. Or not. "In Communist China ISK buys YOU!!" - random bio
Crydawner	Posted - 2007.03.11 13:12:00 - [28] Star trek may base aliens on different facets of human nature (brilliant really), but star wars is frankly racist bullcrap that i found painful to watch.
Liliane Woodhead	Posted - 2007.03.11 14:53:00 - [29] Huh ? what you are talking about. There are aliens in the game. A race empathic, telekinetic and out of the time and space continuum. They are called BoD
Celeste Coeval	Posted - 2007.03.11 14:56:00 - [30] Originally by: Jarjar Originally by: Celeste Coeval Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 11/03/2007 11:44:48 Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Prophet Jurah Actualy eve does have aliens, just not sentient ones. There are things like furriers and slaver hounds and other animals though. Are you sure they are native? I always thought that they are evolved from animals that the human settlers brought with them. Also, sentience = the ability to experience suffering (e.g: pain, hunger), so furriers and stuff are sentient. Trees aren't sentient. Recent studies show that plants do experience a form of pain. Linkage Linkage2 Yeah, BBSpot is a great source of reliable news. Or not. Does that change the fact that it's true? "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
Mr Mozzie Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.11 15:20:00 - [31] Edited by: Mr Mozzie on 11/03/2007 15:19:26 Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 11/03/2007 04:29:38 Incidentally, Star Trek explains why most species in our galaxy are very similar. (and agreed about the no aliens thing, it does work) ya limited CGI budget :) No, common DNA seeded throughout the galaxy. But you were close. Seriously, that is the reason they give in the fiction. In real life the reason is that it is cheap and easy.
Molovian Twilight Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.11 15:20:00 - [32] Originally by: Godagast Goudiyah Edited by: Godagast Goudiyah on 09/03/2007 20:35:59 I love the fact that there are no aliens in the universe. True, aliens is something that many people automatically associate with science fiction - some would even say it isn't science fiction without them! That's nonsense, of course, but it is a fact that most popular science fiction universes have a myriad of alien races. Star Wars, Star Trek, the Traveller universe, the Wing Commander universe, and so on. Moved from Eve Library - Kreul Intentions Are you sure about that?
Steph Wing Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.12 10:41:00 - [33] Edited by: Steph Wing on 12/03/2007 10:37:45 Originally by: Celeste Coeval Recent studies show that plants do experience a form of pain. Linkage2 The same website also proclaims that a giant meteor covered in germs is heading towards the Earth. More linkage Today's lesson: Satire websites are not the best source for information. ;) --- "I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
Wild Rho Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.03.12 10:48:00 - [34] Freespace 2 is the only game that ever got aliens "right" for me.
Sheriff Jones	Posted - 2007.03.12 11:12:00 - [35] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 12/03/2007 11:11:50 Ah poooie! I want aliens. No not the ones from star trek...not the ones from halo...not the ones from Evolution(also known as the "Ass" Movie) But from Starcontrol 2. Now there were some aliens Some melnorme trader running about selling odd junk and buying coordinates to weird worlds, Ur-Quan dreadnaughts(they had it first!) cruising the skies locking all races under red bubbles, Kohr-Ah blowing everyone, including the Ur-Quan. Utwig Jugger being the pew pew toy of the month, Druuge ship design where you throw people in the furnace to pew pew and so forth! Mainly...flagship...oooooh the flagship...
Avery Cane	Posted - 2007.03.12 12:40:00 - [36] I think the interduction of a aliens maybe though jump gates or invaders would be a nice addition. I would never be against new content. Eve is a pvp game, but adding more pve to attract new customers which would equal more revenue for ccp, which I would hope would make eve better i would never be against making eve better.
DarknessInc Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.03.12 16:28:00 - [37] Well if you think of it. What is an 'alien'. The word alien is something unusual, different. Yes, there ARE NO aliens in eve. Why? because we now everything. If old Earth reconnected with New Eden, the Earth people would be aliens to the New Eden people. (to be continued later)
Fuzzy Kismet Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.12 16:54:00 - [38] I was going to ask about Rogue Drones and SanshaÆs Nation, but I know better than to ask questions without at least trying to find out the answer first myself. For the curious: Rogue Drones Sansha's Nation Thanks, Eve Chronicles! ---- Every adventure requires a first step. Trite, but true, even here. -Cheshire Cat, in "American McGee's Alice"
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.12 16:58:00 - [39] I think it's best when the greatest danger you can face is from your own species, and EVE plays that up quite well. Why try to unify us all against a common threat when there's plenty of threats all around us? Besides, it saves us from CCP having to come up with an alien-sounding name that loooks good on paper, but has an unfortunate effect when read out loud. Say, like X2's "Khaak", which gave us probably the most hilarious game review ever on G4's X-Play. :) warp drive active \| nature vraie
BrightPidgeon	Posted - 2007.03.12 17:01:00 - [40] Most definitely agreed. Aliens get too clichT very fast (at least given the level of originality and creativity they usually possess). Eve does well enough creating villains and threats just among humans.
Celeste Coeval	Posted - 2007.03.12 17:19:00 - [41] Originally by: Steph Wing Edited by: Steph Wing on 12/03/2007 10:37:45 Originally by: Celeste Coeval Recent studies show that plants do experience a form of pain. Linkage2 The same website also proclaims that a giant meteor covered in germs is heading towards the Earth. More linkage Today's lesson: Satire websites are not the best source for information. ;) at least you had fun "If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
Yendri Perkone	Posted - 2007.03.12 17:28:00 - [42] Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Prophet Jurah Actualy eve does have aliens, just not sentient ones. There are things like furriers and slaver hounds and other animals though. Are you sure they are native? I always thought that they are evolved from animals that the human settlers brought with them. I think it's a combination - from the background for example "the Hanging Long-limb is only found on one planet, Theruesse IV in the Theruesse system, located within the borders of the Gallente Federation. The Hanging Long-limb belongs to the Long-limb family of species, which are also only found there. The planet is almost entirely covered with inhospitable marshy jungles and the methane filled atmosphere is unbreathable by humans." would be unlikely to be a terrestrial specied that's evolved to cope with a atmosphere like that. likewise "Slaver is a native animal of Syrikos V and has been bred by the Amarrians from the time they first settled the planet more than a millennium ago. ItÆs a vertebrate with four elongated feet and a slender, fur-clad body." suggests that there are planets with life on 'em. but, let's face it, the great thing about eve is there's no aliens of the Jar-Jar Binks or Wookie types of sci-fi nonsense. though I could just about see them having the Xenomorph from Alien somewhere...
Redbad Minmatar Be Inspired Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.12 17:47:00 - [43] Edited by: Redbad on 12/03/2007 17:45:04 I fully agree with your statement. Pitching in all sort of aliens that can do all sorts of difficult things that I cannot even think up in a herbal tea afternoon () makes it very surreal to me. And a game as complex as EVE is surreal for me enough On the sidebar: Does my Avatar really look human? Nice! Thanks! join us today!
DarknessInc Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.03.12 18:37:00 - [44] Originally by: Yendri Originally by: Marquis Dean Originally by: Prophet Jurah Actualy eve does have aliens, just not sentient ones. There are things like furriers and slaver hounds and other animals though. Are you sure they are native? I always thought that they are evolved from animals that the human settlers brought with them. I think it's a combination - from the background for example "the Hanging Long-limb is only found on one planet, Theruesse IV in the Theruesse system, located within the borders of the Gallente Federation. The Hanging Long-limb belongs to the Long-limb family of species, which are also only found there. The planet is almost entirely covered with inhospitable marshy jungles and the methane filled atmosphere is unbreathable by humans." would be unlikely to be a terrestrial specied that's evolved to cope with a atmosphere like that. likewise "Slaver is a native animal of Syrikos V and has been bred by the Amarrians from the time they first settled the planet more than a millennium ago. ItÆs a vertebrate with four elongated feet and a slender, fur-clad body." suggests that there are planets with life on 'em. but, let's face it, the great thing about eve is there's no aliens of the Jar-Jar Binks or Wookie types of sci-fi nonsense. though I could just about see them having the Xenomorph from Alien somewhere... What I would love to see maybe. Are like mission items like hybrid human stuff where the Empires, in secret experiments spliced the DNA of these creatures with human DNA. Though I think Amarrians would focus on Slavery/Human DNA to engineer an efficient ground soldier that can be expended. It would be 'alien' in backround but humanish by DNA association. Naturally we cannot play these characters, but we can carry them in our cargo holds! XD hahaha. Like exotic dancers
Araxmas Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.12 19:16:00 - [45] Don't forget the fedo's but than again they could of been bred. Afterall all knowledge of earth and the like were erased from time so they wouldn't of know if humans created the creatures and as the gate collapsed and stuff the knowledge of it dissapeared. Oh and dont forget the Kyonoke Pit. Think that is an alien thing. -------- Robbie Rotten left me
De'Ath Jester	Posted - 2007.03.12 19:28:00 - [46] Originally by: Crydawner Star trek may base aliens on different facets of human nature (brilliant really), but star wars is frankly racist bullcrap that i found painful to watch. Ummm...hate to tell you this but Star Wars was meant to be racist to a degree. The Empire has only humans in the army/navy where as the rebellion embraced those of all races. Empire = Bad Rebellion = Good
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.03.12 19:35:00 - [47] Originally by: Godagast Goudiyah No cat people please, ever! Sorry I'm late. Hauler traffic, needed to clear it up. What'd I miss here? =P I could do with some aliens, provided they really were aliens. But not in EVE. EVE is about humans kicking the ** out of each other, kinda like Total Annihilation, SupComm, and Command and Conquer (you look me in the eye and tell me it's not Sci-Fi.) Originally by:** Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
Illyria Ambri Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.12 20:15:00 - [48] Give us Shadows or Vorlons.. ala Babylon 5 Now those were aliens.. no head ridges there ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom. "Will i
Siri Blue Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division	Posted - 2007.03.12 20:17:00 - [49] Originally by: Pellaeon DuGalle I want Pkunks! Frakking hell, YES! I want Pkunks too! And Fancy music and fancy comic graphics and Ur-Quan and...oh wait, wrong game, nevermind
Cloora APEX Unlimited	Posted - 2007.03.12 20:22:00 - [50] Edited by: Cloora on 12/03/2007 20:24:14 There is another popular sci-fi setting that has no aliens. BattleTech. Great universe and would make a great MMORPG in my opinion. A lot like EVE in a few sences. Maybe thats why i like EVE so much :D Also forgot to add that Aliens like the movie "Alien" series has a good REAL alien. Also the Starcraft Zerg which is kinda a ripoff of Aliens in some parts and then they expanded on it and made it original. The Protoss, even though human like (most of em), were pretty kick butt too. I think Starcraft did well on their aliens. Wingcommander aliens were lame. ======================================== Production Assistant of APEX Unlimited I don't want to be forced to Jet Can mine or buy a hauler alt to mine effectivly. BIGGER CARGO HOLDS IN BARGES NOW!
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.03.12 21:51:00 - [51] well perhaps the rogue drones could evolve into somethign sentient , the jove have potential, even more sub factions perhaps the appearence of a new NPC corp etc. Jove expansion lies somewhere next year or year after next
Stella Goldfish	Posted - 2007.03.12 22:16:00 - [52] how about bring aliens in to the eve story line, why have faction wars, why not have a invasion from another galaxy, with the aliens moving from system to system. Forcing enemies to unite to fight off these invaders. Seed new totally alien technologies and recovered ships and rare stuff, with agent missions rewritten. Could be an excellent isk sink! Destroying POSÆs and all the build cost for more ships and modules, re-establishing the markets, and the production side of things. Introduce lots of new models and stuff inà.Make the map in to a tactical update map showing the progression of the alien invaders. Totally unrealistic ideas and like another 2 years of work for the devÆs so doà and in fact is a produce of pure Science fiction from my beer fueled mind!!! Slaps Welcome! This fish has been swimming in a lake of beer >.< Stella Goldfish
General Xerxes Delta Omega Iota Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:45:00 - [53] Originally by: hotgirl933 well perhaps the rogue drones could evolve into somethign sentient Originally by: Revalations patchnotes New areas of space have been discovered but are under the control of the first self-aware drone, Orphyx, and his Rogue Drone descendants. Looks like they're alredy reaching sentience and are becoming more and more like a proper alien race.
Imiarr Timshae Roid Vandals The Foundation.	Posted - 2007.03.14 20:27:00 - [54] Um, if we did encounter any "aliens" i fully have expected us to have whupped thier asses out of our god given universe! Am i right? =D -Imiarr Timshae- Originally by: Nwalmaer Err, he has an Interceptor and I have lost 3 Crows catching Bships personally. Did I mention how much ass you all suck? -Pushing game mechanics since 04/03
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.14 20:37:00 - [55] I like the Aliens in South Park. The Marklars especially. They should be a 5th playable race in Eve. No matter what you type in local, you hit enter and 'Marklar' pops up. Good times in Jita. --- Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
Lord Gragert Minmatar WolfKnight Enterprises	Posted - 2007.09.16 06:08:00 - [56] I say that there is a galaxy wide invasion. Make them pop up like rats, just everywhere. It will be cool to undock and see a battle in progress between Concord and the invaders. Or in 0.0 have your pos randomly attacked by a few battleships and their escorts. Even better make the "aliens" old-earth humans, after all, it has been like 15000 years since the eve gate closed. I don't think this is anything that anyone can't handle. And it would certainly liven up empire space. Rule 1. A fair fight is evidence of poor planning. Rule 2. There is no such thing as overkill. Rule 3. Pillage, then burn. Rule 4. That which does not kill you, has made a tactical error.
Gojyu Gallente Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.16 06:13:00 - [57] About the best alien race I've ever read is the amnion from Donaldson's gap series. Now THEY'd be an awesome complement to the jove
Ritorix Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.09.16 06:39:00 - [58] Edited by: Ritorix on 16/09/2007 06:39:57 Its more approachable for an audience when aliens are really just people-in-suits. That said, I think Eve far surpasses fake-looking alien species by using alien cultures of men. As for truly alien beings, Carl Sagan had an excellent imagination for two alien species. This from Cosmos: "We Who Survived" "We Who Became One" In the same format, Sagan's take on mankind: "Humanity"
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2007.09.16 06:55:00 - [59] the real worry is if rogue drones learn to start mixing in with Genetic matter. Resistance is Futile....
Lardarz B'stard Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.09.16 07:00:00 - [60] Originally by: Godagast Goudiyah Usually, you have cuddly ET's Well we do have one of them * Yeah, that's right... it was me all along. And I would've gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those pesky kids
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.09.16 07:33:00 - [61] best rendition of aliens i have found in SF are the primes, in Hamiltons's commonwealth saga, though tyrandis are also interesting (though quite cliched by now). ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
RedSam Flint	Posted - 2007.09.16 07:39:00 - [62] What if they were ... peaceful? I find it quite disappointing that all those "alien" creatures can do these days is invading space. I mean they would get filthy rich with opening a cyno-service cough btw, you star control lovers: http://sc2.sourceforge.net/
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.09.16 07:58:00 - [63] Edited by: Pottsey on 16/09/2007 07:58:31 "I love the fact that there are no aliens in the universe." There are Enheduanni who are aliens in Eve. The Enheduanni are not human anymore meaning they are aliens and are more advance then the Jove along with being sentient. Enheduanni are the reason the Jove pulled out of Empire space. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Golden Helmet Caldari The Diabolic Abstraction	Posted - 2007.09.16 08:29:00 - [64] Edited by: Golden Helmet on 16/09/2007 08:31:15 Originally by: Pellaeon DuGalle I want Pkunks! Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 12/03/2007 11:11:50 Ah poooie! I want aliens. No not the ones from star trek...not the ones from halo...not the ones from Evolution(also known as the "Ass" Movie) But from Starcontrol 2. Now there were some aliens Some melnorme trader running about selling odd junk and buying coordinates to weird worlds, Ur-Quan dreadnaughts(they had it first!) cruising the skies locking all races under red bubbles, Kohr-Ah blowing everyone, including the Ur-Quan. Utwig Jugger being the pew pew toy of the month, Druuge ship design where you throw people in the furnace to pew pew and so forth! Mainly...flagship...oooooh the flagship... Dammit! I was cured! You two mentioned SC2, now I have an urge to play Star Control 2 again... god damn addiction (btw, if you didn't know already, you can get SC2 from here. The 3DO source code was made public, and this is an adaptation to the PC. Incase ya didn't know. Gotta spread the word of this wonderful game y'know)
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.16 08:30:00 - [65] Bah, necro. I agree that the lack of aliens in EVE is refreshing, and one of the better things about it's setting. All the cultures in EVE (including the Enheduanni) have their origins in the distant past on the blue-green planet of Earth. However they've changed, evolved, competed and adapted, they're all Human at their core origins. Whether the Enheduanni have evolved enough to be considered non-human is up for debate- even in that short story, there are conflicting opinions from different people. Personally, I think it's a matter of semantics; there is no point where a person stops being human and starts being "post-human", because its all just a sliding scale. ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Bane Loppknow The Black Ops	Posted - 2007.09.16 08:39:00 - [66] Originally by: Godagast Goudiyah On the other hand, there are science fiction settings that have done very interesting and exciting things with an all-human universe (or close to it), like Dune. Didn't read anything but the OP, but anyway. Dune has sentient machines and brains that live in jars (like the one you see in star wars, which imo has some really nice character designs- and some bad ones... also, in defense of star tek, theres a storyline to explain why most aliens look similar.), if you can consider those aliens. also, its still unknown in that universe whether the giant worms are sentient or not.
Barbelo Valentinian Gallente Shadowcaster Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.16 08:39:00 - [67] Hmm, well I think alients would have been good, but proper literary s-f aliens, not television or film style aliens. The trouble is that aliens have been tarnished by the image of human actors with bulbous foreheads or funny gills stuck on by makeup. It's true that the Star Trek universe has a "kludge" explanation for that, but really, it's just a transparent excuse for lack of decent special effects. Even in big budget films there's a tendency to anthropomorphize aliens just to keep the kiddies happy. But REAL aliens, really weird, different, peculiar, awesome, sometimes totally non-human aliens like you get in good science fiction writing, that would be a good thing to have in the EVE universe.
Swamp Ziro GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.16 10:29:00 - [68] Originally by: Wild Rho Freespace 2 is the only game that ever got aliens "right" for me. Coincidentally, it's one of the few games that had a hired writer for the plot.
Wild Rho Amarr Endgame.	Posted - 2007.09.16 10:51:00 - [69] Edited by: Wild Rho on 16/09/2007 10:51:36 OO a necro, didn't spot that!
Epong Private Military Company	Posted - 2007.09.16 11:03:00 - [70] We have not alien but we have a lot of troll and.../signed...no need alien here - Bad girl +5 and Sarcasm +5 Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Beer Put	Posted - 2007.09.16 11:28:00 - [71] Originally by: Epong We have not alien but we have a lot of troll and.../signed...no need alien here Brilliant
34534bobalt3244	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:11:00 - [72] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 11/03/2007 04:29:38 Incidentally, Star Trek explains why most species in our galaxy are very similar. (and agreed about the no aliens thing, it does work) ya limited CGI budget :) No, common DNA seeded throughout the galaxy. But you were close. By who?

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