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IONZ
Gallente
Joint Operations Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:42:00 -
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Here is a little something for those people that feel WoW is better then Eve.
Eve vs WoW
What do you think? Leave your feedback.
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Cloora
APEX Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:50:00 -
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That is because EVE is a better game... the rest of the world just doesn't realize it yet.
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IONZ
Gallente
Joint Operations Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:52:00 -
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Well my conclusion to the debate is WoW players can not function is such a complex society. Eve is far more advanced then WoW. The Eve world has many more factors to consider when playing then just running around killing.
My step-sons play Wow and have tried Eve. They both say it is too hard...
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:03:00 -
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EVE is a MMORPG. WoW is a bunch of standard single player and multiplayer games all happening simultaneously on the same server.
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Friggz
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:06:00 -
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You might as well have a poll on which is the better color, Red or Blue?
Wow and EvE are completely different in terms of gameplay and target audiance.
In WoW you can't lose anything you have unless you choose to destroy or sell it, in eve anything you have can be lost. In WoW your safe everywhere unless you choose to PvP, in Eve your only safe in a station.
In WoW almost all equipment comes from loot or is purchased from NPCs. In Eve the economy is completely player driven.
In WoW PvP is meaningless and has no consquenses as there is no looting, no items lost, no territory to control or resources to gather. In Eve PvP has meaning and consquense and is a major factor in almost everything.
EvE is high risk for high reward. Wow is no risk and you get rewarded either way, you just get rewarded faster if you win then when you lose.
And finally Wow is designed to appeal to everyone, Eve definitely has more of a target audiance, people who are willing to play a game where you can win big or lose it all are sadly a dying breed.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:12:00 -
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How.... useless...?
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Gealbhan
Caldari
The Big Sky Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:23:00 -
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Eve > Wow
Case closed.
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Chemo Emo
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Crumplecorn
EVE is a MMORPG. WoW is a bunch of standard single player and multiplayer games all happening simultaneously on the same server.
I think empire missions runners are the closest thing to 'singeplayer' in any MMOG.
Choose one:
1. Better quests/rewards. More stable servers.
2. Ability to dominate your enemies in battle and destroy/steal their items. Crappy servers.
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Schena
Northern Shadowrunners
Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:29:00 -
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Is WOW better then EVE? It's up to the person behind the computer. There is no general way to tell. Is blue better then red? I'm not sure.. but one of then might get better search hits. I however know that there are much more players playing wow than eve. Now.. does that make it a better game? Only you know the answer
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chemo Emo
Originally by: Crumplecorn
EVE is a MMORPG. WoW is a bunch of standard single player and multiplayer games all happening simultaneously on the same server.
I think empire missions runners are the closest thing to 'singeplayer' in any MMOG.
Choose one:
1. Better quests/rewards. More stable servers.
2. Ability to dominate your enemies in battle and destroy/steal their items. Crappy servers.
I'll take 3, completely freeform ability to do whatever I want, practically bulletproof servers.
\o/
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Chemo Emo
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Chemo Emo
Originally by: Crumplecorn
EVE is a MMORPG. WoW is a bunch of standard single player and multiplayer games all happening simultaneously on the same server.
I think empire missions runners are the closest thing to 'singeplayer' in any MMOG.
Choose one:
1. Better quests/rewards. More stable servers.
2. Ability to dominate your enemies in battle and destroy/steal their items. Crappy servers.
I'll take 3, completely freeform ability to do whatever I want, practically bulletproof servers.
\o/
Is there going to be a beta for it? I would like to play a game like that! 
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Alora Venoda
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:50:00 -
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the article only measured "web presence" without really showing what criteria and actual data sources were used. so it really doesn't seem to mean much other than an exercise in statistics.
personally, as both a WoW and an EVE player, I find that they both have different strengths and weaknesses. I played WoW for about a year and then tried out EVE with the reason being "I wanted a change of pace and/or scenery". It was and still is a refreshing experience to play EVE. But I also still play WoW as well.
For me, I mainly enjoy the market and industrial aspects of EVE, rather than PvP. The industrial and economic aspects are far superior to that of WoW. Combine that with meaningful risk and losses and then it can be much more rewarding than WoW. I have tried to come up with a parallel in WoW but I just can't picture myself "mining" in WoW like I do in EVE and actually enjoying it or benefitting from it as much. Sure I could farm up a bunch of gold and play the markets in WoW too, but it just doesn't mean as much as it does in EVE.
Unlike EVE, WoW has a much more developed PvE experience as well as many more kinds of environments. While this in itself can be very fun (the FIRST time through), once experienced there is little entertainment remaining, and it becomes a grind after that. And then there is in one aspect a parallel between quests and agent missions... But I never played EVE to have that kind of PvE experience, and I do agent missions expecting them to be more mundane and repetitive.
In the end, while most of EVE might compare with grinding rep and materials in WoW, it is the whole reason I play EVE. This is mainly because doing so is far more rewarding in EVE than it is in WoW. In EVE, there is much more independence and a multitude of possible "goals in life" for any given player. And all of them can be a very rewarding experience. But in WoW, there are much fewer "goals in life" available to choose from. And the very nature of the game sets you on a pretty much predetermined path up until the "end-game" at which point you have basically two choices: PvP or raid. And even then, with much less risk/effort involved the rewards are not nearly as fulfilling.
Basically, because of the greater risk and required effort, doing anything in EVE (even PvP) is more meaningful and potentially fulfilling to the player. WoW is very easy to pick up and is also much more twitchy compared to EVE. It also has much less risk involved, and the time sinks are less significant. In WoW, it feels like you are often presented with a carrot on a stick (ie- new epic weapon or armor) but you have run 500 laps (ie- grind rep) before you can get it. In EVE, that doesn't ever seem to be the case. Instead of a carrot on a stick, there is a meaningful goal to work towards with much greater rewards (ie- better ship, POS, Tech2).
I will conculde by saying that WoW is for younger, less mature players, than EVE. And when reading the forums, I appreciate that all the more :)
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RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2007.03.10 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
EVE is a MMORPG. WoW is a bunch of standard single player and multiplayer games all happening simultaneously on the same server.
well put, ive seen my friend put up ore for sale in WoW, or crystals or w/e u call em.
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RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2007.03.10 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Friggz
You might as well have a poll on which is the better color, Red or Blue?
Wow and EvE are completely different in terms of gameplay and target audiance.
In WoW you can't lose anything you have unless you choose to destroy or sell it, in eve anything you have can be lost. In WoW your safe everywhere unless you choose to PvP, in Eve your only safe in a station.
In WoW almost all equipment comes from loot or is purchased from NPCs. In Eve the economy is completely player driven.
In WoW PvP is meaningless and has no consquenses as there is no looting, no items lost, no territory to control or resources to gather. In Eve PvP has meaning and consquense and is a major factor in almost everything.
EvE is high risk for high reward. Wow is no risk and you get rewarded either way, you just get rewarded faster if you win then when you lose.
And finally Wow is designed to appeal to everyone, Eve definitely has more of a target audiance, people who are willing to play a game where you can win big or lose it all are sadly a dying breed.
theres some npc driven economy in eve... consumer goods for example.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.10 04:03:00 -
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That chart shows me nothing.
So, yeah. "WEB PRESENCE"
wtfever.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.03.10 04:08:00 -
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They've both got their pros and cons. The poll is kind of useless, especially if you don't control who's answering it.
Eve is a more sophisticated game in a lot of ways, but it's bogged down by a lot of other stuff which can really hurt it.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.10 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: RaWBLooD
theres some npc driven economy in eve... consumer goods for example.
Wait for StarCraft Universe. 
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Crydawner
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Posted - 2007.03.10 07:17:00 -
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i played WoW and saw it for exactly what it is.
I wont need to expand on that for the more intelligent and observant gamers.
It's nothing like eve, it's like comparing chess with poker.
But anyhow, this is yet another E-on vs WoW post, why never E-on Vs Guild wars?
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Ishan Shade
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Posted - 2007.03.10 07:37:00 -
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I'm not saying WoW is better than eve, although I play both.
But those graphs show absolutly nothing what so ever.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.10 07:58:00 -
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Hey, look.. wow is really.. really.. boring.
I hate wow. I hate it so much I don't even capitalize the letters anymore.
Why do I hate wow? Because, it's cartoonish, unrealistic, and purely a fantasy game. Why would I want to play a game in a fantasy world where I can just be a "fairie" for lack of a better term?
I want something scientific.. something exciting. Something that lets me come up with realistic life-based ideas. Something that gives me something to expand my mind on. I really don't want to mindlessly run around in small groups of internet friends saying "okay guys, we're going to run in there and kill all the monsters.. for the 70th time today."
Not interested.
I know that people bash on the "truth" because it's true.. but wow just plain sucks. Everyone and their dog who has an account is lost. :(
Sorry guys :(
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Presidente Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.10 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 10/03/2007 09:17:36
I have been playing for over 15 years pen and paper RPG with friends. Our game master had worked out his own world and rules called "Yorbal".
The world was based a bit on Middle-Earth type of course and its adventures were deep, complex and so were our characters. We hadn't been the type of players skilling up asap to a level 40 thief, wizard or whatever within a few months. It was more intellectual and after 15 years my character was reaching level 8. Our game master himself is a great actor in this case. So the sessions were very entertaining, thrilling and we had loads of fun.
When I heard about the first MMORPG's we all were wondering how those games work compared to our system. We couldn't imagine that a game like WoW can reach the "realism and complexity" of "Yorbal". We had some great adventures where I am sure that this kind of stuff isn't possible in a computer game. The action in our pen, paper and brain version was more like watching a movie like LOTR. Each situation can be solved in hundreds ways with teamwork, specialization, solo action or communication and and and.
I just saw a few pictures of WoW and THIS wasn't definitely my computer version of "Yorbal" I like to see. I understood that a "real world" like "Yorbal" is too complex. You have to build millions of details just for beeing there just for visual reasons only and theoretically you can interact with everything. The whole design of WoW is a fairy tale design for kids. I don't like it any second. There are loads of console games out there which shows a better world design and athmosphere like Jade Empire, Far Cry or the brand new Assassin's Creed.
Due my passion for Si-Fi I recognized EVE 2003 the first time but lost focus on it. 2006 I did the 14-days trial and was impressed. The great advantage of EVE is: space. You don't need to visualize a complex world like we see in Assassin's Creed or we know from LOTR or that kid's crap in WoW. This gives EVE the possibility to focus on other ideas. Even warping through nothing is convincing and fun. I was impressed of its complexity and deepness from the very first hour. The tutorial will separate the boys from the men :-D It's of course not comparable to "Yorbal" but it's a damn good alternative to it.
Two days ago I watched a friend playing WoW. I was just scared by its concept. There was no magic or "I want to play that" trigger for me. I just saw a bunch of hooligans running and jumping through a bad apple candy style world looking for trouble. In solo action you walk hours around with no real action or even the feeling that something's could happen.
I am in EVE for one year now. Due the great skilling system and the possibility to focus on different specializations or ways it wasn't boring any minute. Overall I have the impression that the community is not overcrowded by kids frakking up your day. It feels "serious" and bigger action like wars between corps or allys proove that you need a bit more than hack and slay tactics.
Overall I am more than happy with EVE. It's a mother of all future concepts for a good MMORPG.
So say we all!
Presidente Gallente
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SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.10 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: RaWBLooD
theres some npc driven economy in eve... consumer goods for example.
Wait for StarCraft Universe.
I would much rather the makers of Planetside see that game made. Starcraft MMO is a nice wish, PS developers? Different dimension.
I still miss Starcraft: Ghost. It was a 3rd person shooter that had multiplayer that was as fun as Super Smash Brothers Melee. It wasn't revolutionary for shooter games, but it was innovative.
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Posted - 2007.03.10 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: SonOTassadar
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: RaWBLooD
theres some npc driven economy in eve... consumer goods for example.
Wait for StarCraft Universe.
I would much rather the makers of Planetside see that game made. Starcraft MMO is a nice wish, PS developers? Different dimension.
I still miss Starcraft: Ghost. It was a 3rd person shooter that had multiplayer that was as fun as Super Smash Brothers Melee. It wasn't revolutionary for shooter games, but it was innovative.
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RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2007.03.10 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: RaWBLooD
theres some npc driven economy in eve... consumer goods for example.
Wait for StarCraft Universe.
Eve is the starcraft universe.
wow can be a perpetual cash cow for blizzard and they wont need to make any other games.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.10 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: RaWBLooD
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: RaWBLooD
theres some npc driven economy in eve... consumer goods for example.
Wait for StarCraft Universe.
Eve is the starcraft universe.
wow can be a perpetual cash cow for blizzard and they wont need to make any other games.
LOL.
StarCraft Universe is StarCraft Universe. eVe is eVe but eVe wants to be WoW in space. Irony isn't it?
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Gibmundur
Amarr
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.10 10:28:00 -
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Who cares?
I'm sure wow is great not tried it but why do you care if wow is as good as eve or not? 
I'm sure wow doesnt have players hanging around 8 hours picking there noises inside a pos shield, people mining for 12 hours a day while watching ****. Eve is just as sad of a game as wow.
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RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2007.03.10 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: RaWBLooD
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: RaWBLooD
theres some npc driven economy in eve... consumer goods for example.
Wait for StarCraft Universe.
Eve is the starcraft universe.
wow can be a perpetual cash cow for blizzard and they wont need to make any other games.
LOL.
StarCraft Universe is StarCraft Universe. eVe is eVe but eVe wants to be WoW in space. Irony isn't it?
there is no starcraft universe, are you dreaming 
i sure hope eve doesnt become wow in space, ill quit and probably /quit life.
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RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2007.03.10 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gibmundur
Who cares?
I'm sure wow is great not tried it but why do you care if wow is as good as eve or not?
I'm sure wow doesnt have players hanging around 8 hours picking there noises inside a pos shield, people mining for 12 hours a day while watching ****. Eve is just as sad of a game as wow.
oh wow has people mining 12 hours a day, they just might be sitting on a "mount" instead of high tech vehicles.
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr Navy Runners
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Posted - 2007.03.10 10:50:00 -
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Apples > Oranges!!!!14123@#!@#
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Gwendolyne Croft
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Posted - 2007.03.10 11:26:00 -
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WoW is not a option for me. Fantasy vs. S&F, and i'm more for S&F. The only thing i would like to have in Eve is, no - not walking in station, piloting my ship like in the old Elite days.
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