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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.07.29 20:34:45 -
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Careby wrote:Lillian Dekar wrote:...the "Ability to finish a contract from outside a citadel without docking access: Will very likely be added in a follow-up patch" would help with this... Depending on how it is implemented... Imagine a courier contract to deliver a full freighter to a nice, quiet, private citadel where the freighter cannot tether and... well, use your imagination to finish the story.
In high sec, citadel safety is set green, so you would have to be ganked - which can happen anywhere
In low/null/WH psace, we decided diplomacy would be the mechanism to provide for safe travels
But, short of that, being in tether range and being able to complete the contract anyway, would also be a way to deliver, although risky in some parts of space. |
Eonan Dmalum
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2016.07.29 20:36:16 -
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Couple of things.
1. Remote contracting of assets within citadels does not work, is this intended?
2. Contract copying does not auto-split stacked items, is this intended?
Thanks! |
Zappity
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
2911
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Posted - 2016.07.29 21:13:24 -
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Citadel assets (both corp and character) is really important.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
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Zetadelta333
High Flyers Northern Coalition.
5
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Posted - 2016.07.29 21:45:58 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Hi, The contract changes on Singularity are now ready for public testing. Please help us out and test your use cases for contracts and make sure that everything works as expected! A devblog is currently being written, but here are the main changes: Contracts in Citadels
- All normal functionality of contracts should also work in Citadels
- Accepting contracts in Citadels is on your own risk regarding docking access (see also next section) - there are appropriate warning messages displayed
- Contract search: Contracts in Citadels without docking access are hidden by default (through the "exclude unreachable" filter)
- Citadel explosion (+unanchoring): Active item exchange and auction contracts are being canceled, content moved to asset safety. The destination of courier contracts in progress is being moved to default asset safety location (except wormholes).
Planned, but not available yet
- Notifications for canceled / modified contracts: Should be done next week
- Ability to finish a contract from outside a citadel without docking access: Will very likely be added in a follow-up patch
Other related changes
- It is now possible to search for Citadels (only citadels with docking access will be returned)
- All citadels were renamed to include the system name
- Increased contract limitations: Max contract size to 1,200,000m3, max item stacks from 200 to 500, max ISK value to 10 trillion
Known issues:
- Missing text in popup for naming a Citadel the same as an existing Citadel
- The default "Exclude unreachable" option is not properly displayed as checked
- Unable to create a contract from the 1st division of a corp office in a citadel
- Unable to create a contract in citadel through personal assets window, while being in a different system or docked in station
- Right-clicking in space with an accepted courier contract is broken in some cases.
So i cant remote deliver couriers in a citadel? |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
1582
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Posted - 2016.07.29 22:36:41 -
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@Andrew Xadi: We did not change anything for Outposts so far (as far as I know), and it is not really a priority. Sorry.
Eonan Dmalum wrote:Couple of things.
1. Remote contracting of assets within citadels does not work, is this intended?
2. Contract copying does not auto-split stacked items, is this intended?
Thanks! ad 1) The right-click menu option is still missing in many cases - this is not intended and should be fixed soon. You should be able to remote-contract through manually selecting the citadel in the 2nd step of contract creation.
ad 2) I'll need to look into this, probably not intended.
If something works in stations (on TQ), then it should also work in Citadels (on Sisi). Feel free to send bug reports in those cases (F12 - Report Bug).
@Zetadelta333: Remote delivery *should* work the same as in stations, as far as I know.
CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)
Bug reporting | Mass Testing
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citizen0000345
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.07.29 23:39:44 -
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yessssssss! all hail the habakuk! \o/ *bows* |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3546
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Posted - 2016.07.30 00:16:07 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Scotsman Howard wrote:I agree with the 200 number. I am not sure where the 2000 came from. 1 item is a stack by itself. You can also ship hundreds of thousands of trit in one stack, so the 2000 number makes no sense. The 2000 limit is for the total amount of item stacks, including items within containers. I am personally a bit concerned about increasing this limit, as it would affect server and client performance.
would increasing the max stack limit for the station hangar cause problems too? I don't know how its calculated but i am in one station at around 900 stacks and i can't repackage stuff anymore. Happens almost every time i move.
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Blacksmoke16
Resilience.
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Posted - 2016.07.30 13:48:18 -
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While we are talking about contracts (not tested on SISI), can you make it so you can delete multiple expired contracts at once? As of now you have to right click -> delete each one individually.
Thanks
Maybe some edits to come... |
Bella Mingo
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
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Posted - 2016.07.30 14:29:05 -
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I may have missed it but is there a defense for the following scenario: -Citadel owner sets up courier contract -I accept courier contract -Citadel owner revokes docking rights before I dock -Contract is now stuck in citadel and unable for me to pick it up.
If not a defnese for this except for "not accepting until already docked", might I suggest a 24-48 hours cooldown before dockign rights can be revoked to give me that day or two to dock?
An alternate suggestion is if docking rights are denied before contract is actually picked up, I as the hauler be given the ability to use an immediate asset safety feature on that contract so that I can pick it up in an alternate station
Thanks |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
1585
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Posted - 2016.07.30 22:20:02 -
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Bienator II wrote:would increasing the max stack limit for the station hangar cause problems too? I don't know how its calculated but i am in one station at around 900 stacks and i can't repackage stuff anymore. Happens almost every time i move.
The limit for item stacks in a station hangar is at 1000 (but including the ship hangar) and it is there for performance reasons. There are still a few methods for going a bit above this limit (for example through contracts), but having too many items in one location slows down both the server and the client.
Blacksmoke16: Not planned yet, but this might be a nice improvement.
Bella Mingo: For now at least it will be completely your risk if you want to accept courier contracts, while you are not in the pickup location. A cooldown for docking rights is probably not doable, as it might lead to other abuse cases. Immediate asset safety might be an interesting option to discuss for the future, but it might also be problematic (for example as the plastic wrap is just a normal item in the item hangar).
CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)
Bug reporting | Mass Testing
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Sootsia
HIgh Sec Care Bears Brothers of Tangra
11
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Posted - 2016.07.30 23:59:46 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Hi,
Increased contract limitations: Max contract size to 1,200,000m3, max item stacks from 200 to 500, max ISK value to 10 trillion If something works in stations (on TQ), then it should also work in Citadels (on Sisi). Feel free to send bug reports in those cases (F12 - Report Bug).
Not sure If I am understanding this correctly, whereas one can contract capitals in a station, I think the numbers given by CCP Habakuk prevents one from doing so in a citadel, let alone what one would presume to be able to do in a Keepstar, contracting of Titans and Supers.
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Asika Koraka
Dragon Factory Peoples United Republic Empire
1
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Posted - 2016.07.31 09:01:47 -
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any eta for the industrial array , rorqual rebalance release? |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
1585
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Posted - 2016.07.31 16:27:31 -
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Sootsia wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:Hi,
Increased contract limitations: Max contract size to 1,200,000m3, max item stacks from 200 to 500, max ISK value to 10 trillion If something works in stations (on TQ), then it should also work in Citadels (on Sisi). Feel free to send bug reports in those cases (F12 - Report Bug).
Not sure If I am understanding this correctly, whereas one can contract capitals in a station, I think the numbers given by CCP Habakuk prevents one from doing so in a citadel, let alone what one would presume to be able to do in a Keepstar, contracting of Titans and Supers.
Oh, the max contract size is only for courier contracts - other contracts have no limited volume (as far as I know). I clarified this now also in the original post.
CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3546
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Posted - 2016.07.31 17:34:44 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Bienator II wrote:would increasing the max stack limit for the station hangar cause problems too? I don't know how its calculated but i am in one station at around 900 stacks and i can't repackage stuff anymore. Happens almost every time i move. The limit for item stacks in a station hangar is at 1000 (but including the ship hangar) and it is there for performance reasons. There are still a few methods for going a bit above this limit (for example through contracts), but having too many items in one location slows down both the server and the client.
thanks for the explanation. I do in fact have a lot of ships in that station, that explains why the item limit is lower than 1k since it all adds up.
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Lynnae Suriyawong
Circle of Steel Inc. Care Factor
0
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Posted - 2016.07.31 21:49:01 -
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Why is the limit being increased to 1,200,000, when a Charon with ORE Expanded Cargoholds and level V skill can carry 1,247,763?
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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere Coalition of the Unfortunate
1679
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Posted - 2016.08.01 11:39:33 -
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Sorry if I've missed it, but are we getting a maximum contract length increase in these changes? Even if it's only for contracts to corp / alliance, a significant increase in maximum length would be appreciated. |
Smurf Joseph
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
0
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Posted - 2016.08.01 14:49:19 -
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Could you add a little flexibility to 'days to complete' opntion? I live in a wormhole and It'd be so helpful to get goods at at the current static connection before it dissapears without mailing haulers or have pacts with hauler corporations. |
King Creator
Out of Focus Odin's Call
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Posted - 2016.08.01 17:15:20 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:"able to set destination to a citadel from saved bookmarks" - I'll investigate after the weekend Assets API: I'll ask around after the weekend, but this is not really for my team and I am not sure what is possible there. Grookshank wrote:Can we get some info on contract taxes and broker fees? They seem to be the same on SiSi right now. Nothing changed regarding taxes and broker fees (everything goes to NPCs).
Any progress on the API thing? |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
1590
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Posted - 2016.08.02 19:26:53 -
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King Creator wrote:Any progress on the API thing? I discussed it with the relevant team and they will look further into it. It seems like it should be possible, but we cannot promise anything yet - and there is for sure no eta for it.
CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)
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Rivr Luzade
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
2663
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Posted - 2016.08.03 09:38:20 -
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Lynnae Suriyawong wrote:Why is the limit being increased to 1,200,000, when a Charon with ORE Expanded Cargoholds and level V skill can carry 1,247,763? Because this kind of irregular numbers are a very cumbersome and outright dumb value as an upper limit. Not to mention that 99.5% of the haulers do not use ORE ECH but normal T2, which sets the cargo volume to 1.204M m-¦. An edge case like ORE ECH cannot be the norm.
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Blacksmoke16
Resilience.
22
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Posted - 2016.08.03 17:48:14 -
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Another thought i had.
As of now when doing courier contracts and moving the plastic wrap via a freighter alt, in order to complete the courier contract i have to contract the plastic wrap to the acceptor of the contract. Would it be doable to have it so when whomever has the plastic wrap clicks deliver courier package that the contract will be completed and the reward etc will be sent to acceptor of the contract?
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
2051
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Posted - 2016.08.04 15:45:05 -
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As per the patch note, a courier contract with a Citadel as a destination is canceled if the Citadel gets blown up.
Can I have confirmation that:
1- The courier contract is NOT canceled if the Citadel is only the origin point and already accepted.
2- "Canceled" is NOT "failed", which means that the hauler keeps the item but gets his collateral back (as opposed to failed which doesn't give the collateral back)
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Vraygan
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.08.08 17:04:07 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Hi, Planned, but not available yet
- Ability to finish a contract from outside a citadel without docking access: Will very likely be added in a follow-up patch
Not sure if this is possible, but could you please also make it so that you can be outside the station and drop items into your hangar/CorpHangar from outside without docking? That way you don't have to wait to go through the whole loading screen for docking when doing hauling runs. |
Messenger Of Truth
Butlerian Crusade
53
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Posted - 2016.08.15 14:02:06 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:
All citadels were renamed to include the system name
This is not correct: citadel ID 1021474866146 on tranquility has name "Hannover - out of order" but there is no system called Hannover in the game.
Trade Hub Price Checker: https://stop.hammerti.me.uk/
Visit "Haulers Channel" in game for all matters courier-related.
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Darkblad
1052
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Posted - 2016.08.15 15:02:33 -
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Somehow, that Hannover citadel has (Auswide) in its name when I invoke showinfo of it by creating a link to click on in the client.
As I don't know what type of citadel it is, I just created a sample for each. Not sure whether that (Auswide) got added by the server - or the owner of the citadel, though.
NPE-ISD-Übersetzt!
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Messenger Of Truth
Butlerian Crusade
53
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Posted - 2016.08.15 21:58:02 -
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Possibly related to this killmail https://zkillboard.com/kill/55336922/
Trade Hub Price Checker: stop.hammerti.me.uk/pricecheck
Visit "Haulers Channel" in game for all matters courier-related.
Citadel API: stop.hammerti.me.uk/api
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