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Yochi Miyatsuda School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 13	Posted - 2016.08.01 11:57:17 - [1] - Quote My sub runs out in Nov. I don' t think I'll be renewing. I've lost my motivation for the game. EVE's too "jobby," either flying alone or with a corp. Most activities are time intensive and low reward. The game demands too much grind for everything now (think Scope Network). Citadels show this to be a continuing trend. Has EVE become too "jobby?"
Memphis Baas 1855	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:02:11 - [2] - Quote Not anymore than any other game, IMO, and I'm playing a few, online and single-player. But, it's ok to take a break from any game, EVE included. Or quit it if you don't like it anymore. Not a big deal.
Linus Gorp Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker 335	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:04:26 - [3] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Not anymore than any other game, IMO, and I'm playing a few, online and single-player. But, it's ok to take a break from any game, EVE included. Or quit it if you don't like it anymore. Not a big deal. Quitting EVE? Blasphemous! When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12704	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:04:36 - [4] - Quote If by 'jobby' you're referring to the Scottish definition, then, probably yes, EVE is too 'jobby' Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Maekchu Gunpoint Diplomacy 364	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:11:43 - [5] - Quote Too time intensive and low rewards? You probably should consider getting out of highsec :P Jokes aside, a break from EvE is decent from time to time. One gets burned out, since the game requires effort to make stuff happen, opposed to other games where content is spoon-fed to you. If you don't plan to ever come back, then I don't see a problem either. Maybe EvE was not your cup of tea to begin with.
Erebus Vain State War Academy Caldari State 15	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:13:45 - [6] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: If by 'jobby' you're referring to the Scottish definition, then, probably yes, EVE is too 'jobby' I hope your meaning of 'Jobby' isn't the same as my meaning of 'Jobby'. It would make that statement more than a little different, although still relevant. Shame.
Valerius Ravin 4	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:17:17 - [7] - Quote I make 200-500 mil a day with something that isn't really grindy at all depending on how you look at it, i enjoy it and it's easy and relaxing while chatting with others. Get enough for a plex, get some extra to spend on pvp ships and the rest of the month I'm free to do whatever. You can work hard or you can work smart.
Lucy Lollipops State War Academy Caldari State 70	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:18:42 - [8] - Quote I think the new event is too Jobby.... ...and the requirement for the Zeugma ****yzer I've found the blueprint for and will be unable to sell...damn.... too Jobby Zeugma....
Jenn aSide Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore 14362	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:18:56 - [9] - Quote EVE is significantly less "jobby" now than it was in the past. CCP has , time and time again, made it easier to play. and STILL people like this complain. It's also ridiculously more rewarding now than in the past, I'm surprised we don't get 20 million isk just for undocking these days. CCP should take note of that. The only thing they do when they increase convenience in the game is create a new standard for people to ***** about being too hard. CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button...
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 8481	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:20:21 - [10] - Quote Can Doc have your stuff? Gÿ+ The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
Maekchu Gunpoint Diplomacy 364	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:21:29 - [11] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button... Given all the complaints I've read on the forums, I would not be surprised if this would be the case. Well put :D
Lan Wang Aliastra Gallente Federation 3348	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:32:19 - [12] - Quote Yochi Miyatsuda wrote: My sub runs out in Nov. I don' t think I'll be renewing. I've lost my motivation for the game. EVE's too "jobby," either flying alone or with a corp. Most activities are time intensive and low reward. The game demands too much grind for everything now (think Scope Network). Citadels show this to be a continuing trend. Has EVE become too "jobby?" you are complaining eve is jobby, well thats because you are concerned about rewards Loyalist to Angel Cartel Your killboard reads like a "how to get farmed 101" - Noah Reese
Gadget Helmsdottir Gadget's Workshop 274	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:32:21 - [13] - Quote No worries. EvE is full repetitious and tedious parts that overshadow the scant hours of exhilaration and fun. We play for the fun parts - and we all have different ideas of the fun parts - but unless you're playing EvE as a 100% wallet warrior, you need a way to support the fun parts. That support can be repetitious... PI, missions, mining, etc. For many, the repetition leads to burn out that even the fun parts can't override. Take a break. Come back refreshed. In this way, yes, it's like a job. Sometimes you just need a vacation from your career to allow the boredom to subside and bring the fun back to the front of your mind. Let nostalgia do its job. Sometimes you just need a different perspective. Take some time off and volunteer for something some other task. Take time away from EvE and try a different game to remind yourself what you liked and didn't like. If after a long time away, you still feel that you'd rather do anything BUT log into EvE, then maybe it's time to call it quits for good. Also, in this way, EvE is like a job. Enjoy the vacay. Hope to see you back soon. --Gadget (who may or may not be taking a small No Man's Sky break soon-ish) Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Roenok Baalnorn Sadistically Sinister 262	Posted - 2016.08.01 12:48:56 - [14] - Quote I do things in the game that entertain me. If it doesnt entertain me i dont do it. I switch between various tasks in game regularly depending on my mood. I dont worry about the rewards. When you get caught up in efficiency and maxing x amount in y amount of time you turn it into a job and you become a virtual wage slave. It makes the game more enjoyable to play this way and i dont feel more committed to eve than to my wife or my real job. It requires balance.
Geronimo McVain McVain's Minning and Exploration Inc 158	Posted - 2016.08.01 13:04:00 - [15] - Quote Yochi Miyatsuda wrote: My sub runs out in Nov. I don' t think I'll be renewing. I've lost my motivation for the game. EVE's too "jobby," either flying alone or with a corp. Most activities are time intensive and low reward. The game demands too much grind for everything now (think Scope Network). Citadels show this to be a continuing trend. Has EVE become too "jobby?" Can I have you stuff and SP? If you don't like Eve any more it's okay to leave but the gameplay hasn't really changed so it's just that YOU are bored. Bye, and don't forget about your stuff.
Judaa K'Marr Power-Hug Training Bootcamp 22	Posted - 2016.08.01 13:22:49 - [16] - Quote Well, you can find a group with full srp for losses, you only ever need to grind the ship once and never again. Solo'ing you can go pretty long flying t1 ships fit with cheap meta modules, you can make a PLEX last forever since the insurance will buy back most of it.
Moac Tor Cyber Core Stain Confederation 622	Posted - 2016.08.01 13:40:53 - [17] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: EVE is significantly less "jobby" now than it was in the past. CCP has , time and time again, made it easier to play. and STILL people like this complain. It's also ridiculously more rewarding now than in the past, I'm surprised we don't get 20 million isk just for undocking these days. CCP should take note of that. The only thing they do when they increase convenience in the game is create a new standard for people to *** about being too hard. CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button... Exactly. A lot of stuff has been taken out the game and simplified, and so if anything it is the opposite. Modulated ECM Effects An Alternative to Skill Trading**
Eternus8lux8lucis Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 860	Posted - 2016.08.01 13:53:49 - [18] - Quote Gadget it hit on the head as did Jenn aSide's second paragraph. If it feels like a job its because it is. All human tasks if done enough will elicit some sort of grind/repetitive style. Honestly my boxing coach said the same thing about boxing too and funny enough it came to pass even fighting someone else in a ring. Eventually its like going to work because youve done it so many times. Some of us in our lives get to find jobs we love. Jobs we literally DONT need a vacation from. This is rare in life as it is in a game. Honestly in Eve I have found something I can literally do 7 days a week for 12 or more hours a day and still NOT find it boring, even though parts of it can get very "ugh" at times. Years ago when ET was young I used to do a week of something and then another week of something else and so on until I came back to the first thing again. This gave me enough time doing something newish that I didnt get bored fast grinding the same content. Then I found making goals for myself and havent looked back. The only time Eve felt dull was when the bucket list and goals to accomplish really ran dry for my particular play style. I do literally a bit of everything, or have in the past, and until most of the new Eve started rolling in I was hardpressed to find truly new things to do. People can help this feeling a lot as well as they can in any normal work environment. Toxic people or people you hate being around burn you out faster than people you like. I personally find its people I have to take the break from and that burn me out the fastest. This is coming from a guy that has literally gone 6 weeks at stretches out in the wilderness never seeing/talking to/interacting another person. So I would say Im 'socially' different than most people. Finding "YOUR" people will help tide yourself through those boring breaks. And if Eve isnt for you well so be it. People, even really successful people, leave jobs for new ones all the time to start over fresh somewhere else. Best of luck to you. Have you heard anything I've said? You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right? That's right. Had to end sometime.
Yochi Miyatsuda School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 13	Posted - 2016.08.01 14:07:59 - [19] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: EVE is significantly less "jobby" now than it was in the past. CCP has , time and time again, made it easier to play. and STILL people like this complain. It's also ridiculously more rewarding now than in the past, I'm surprised we don't get 20 million isk just for undocking these days. CCP should take note of that. The only thing they do when they increase convenience in the game is create a new standard for people to ***** about being too hard. CCP could make it where you press one button per day and the game plays it self, 6 weeks later there would be a thread in GD about the injustice of forcing people to log on every day to press a button... T-T-T-TRIGGERED!
Tung Yoggi Null Sect 134	Posted - 2016.08.01 14:09:53 - [20] - Quote Back when Eve wasn't yet nicknamed "Internet Spaceships", it was called "Second Job Online". Probably for a reason ))
Yochi Miyatsuda School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 13	Posted - 2016.08.01 14:13:29 - [21] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: Can Doc have your stuff? Why would I give you anything, r3tard?
Chopper Rollins Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1460	Posted - 2016.08.01 15:06:38 - [22] - Quote Yochi Miyatsuda wrote: Doc Fury wrote: Can Doc have your stuff? Why would I give you anything, r3tard? Because you're leaving and are generous at heart? Or maybe just take a break, up to you of course. I've found that most people, especially men, approach everything in a linear 'press butan, receive bacan' sort of way. Everything not involving the receipt of bacan is a chore to be churned through. It's unrewarding and ultimately empty, a search that hides it's goal but generally a deeply ingrained way of being so who am i to argue with it? It's all bacan, baby. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Yochi Miyatsuda School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 13	Posted - 2016.08.01 15:10:03 - [23] - Quote Chopper Rollins wrote: Yochi Miyatsuda wrote: Doc Fury wrote: Can Doc have your stuff? Why would I give you anything, r3tard? Because you're leaving and are generous at heart? Or maybe just take a break, up to you of course. I've found that most people, especially men, approach everything in a linear 'press butan, receive bacan' sort of way. Everything not involving the receipt of bacan is a chore to be churned through. It's unrewarding and ultimately empty, a search that hides it's goal but generally a deeply ingrained way of being so who am i to argue with it? It's all bacan, baby. Unable to fathom meaning. I shall have to masturbate upon this.
Yochi Miyatsuda School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 13	Posted - 2016.08.01 15:10:58 - [24] - Quote *meditate
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 504	Posted - 2016.08.01 15:21:16 - [25] - Quote Everytime I hear a complaint about something that doesn't also contain a solution I think 'whine central'. If you are going to take the time to point something out you feel is wrong with the game, also take the time to think about the problem and maybe, just maybe, give us an idea of what you think might fix it. Then we can at least see your perspective on how things should work for you to enjoy the game more and we can have a chance at either agreeing with you, pointing out some issues with your line of thinking, or in the case of things in GD, have someone troll you off on a response that will show us how much grace and class you have... which, of course, helps us determine how much we should help out with your issue. I see very little difference between EVE and other MMO's and 'grindiness' if you only do PVE style stuff. This is one of the major drawbacks of the PVE play style and since that's my primary play style I'm fully aware of it. PVE players are generally goal oriented and creator sorts... we like to build things over destroying them. So, grinding is usually not a big deal to us. If you are having issues with "The Grind" my suggestion is to change gears (remember to use the clutch or you'll just end up grinding more) and start making your own content and not relying on what the game provides. You could do some stupid fun stuff like grabbing a rookie ship and go shoot at a Fortizar, declare war on some huge corp and go blast their players in the faces with rookie ship after rookie ship. When they ask you what the heck you are doing, you tell them you are testing hull integrity of rookie ships 'for the sake of the children'. If anything, it's cheap fun. Just find something different to do that has an element of fun, surprise and danger. You'll be un-bored really fast. Get creative. Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game -- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
xxxTRUSTxxx Galactic Rangers EVEolution. 455	Posted - 2016.08.01 15:24:18 - [26] - Quote you must find balance. o7
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 7186	Posted - 2016.08.01 15:50:12 - [27] - Quote Removed an off topic post. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
DaReaper Net 7 Cannon.Fodder 2878	Posted - 2016.08.01 15:59:45 - [28] - Quote Actually, i'd argue eve has become less jobby. and its going to be more so shortly. I started here in 2004, and back then you had to do a crap load of grinding for standings ot get in on decent things. you wanted a Tech 2 bpo? better get to building yoru standings so you can find some decent Research agents. you want to build stuff? better hiunt around the universe for stations that have open slots. want to research? better hunt for stations with open slots. You want to make t2 stuff? get ready to deploy 8 or more pos' to get all the resources (this is still here, but i hope it dies when the drill platform comes) there are other examples, but eve is less jobby. you need to stop looking at it as a job, go find somehting you like, don;t care about the money you make or lose, and just do that. that will get you hooked. just like irl OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Aurelius Oshidashi Immortal Lunatics Ministry of Agressive Destruction 13	Posted - 2016.08.01 16:12:17 - [29] - Quote DaReaper wrote: you want to build stuff? better hiunt around the universe for stations that have open slots. want to research? better hunt for stations with open slots. This is replaced long ago by system index costs. Is eve too jobby? Not for me. Until today, I could only play EvE a few hours in the weekend. That didn't hold me back from achieving things solo and in corp and from having fun. It all depends on the goals you set for yourself. I'm perfectly ok with taking it very slow. And now that after months I can finally also play during the week, I've upgraded my short term goals a bit. I've taken a break once in my almost 1 year old eve career, but now can't imagine I will ever want to quit. This game has everything that makes it the greatest game all time for me.
Serene Repose 2570	Posted - 2016.08.01 17:37:05 - [30] - Quote Roenok Baalnorn wrote: I do things in the game that entertain me. If it doesnt entertain me i dont do it. I switch between various tasks in game regularly depending on my mood. I dont worry about the rewards. When you get caught up in efficiency and maxing x amount in y amount of time you turn it into a job and you become a virtual wage slave. It makes the game more enjoyable to play this way and i dont feel more committed to eve than to my wife or my real job. It requires balance. This. Plus, what do you expect? To get into "other" forms of activity, play other types of games. Expecting one game to be all to everyone is asking a bit much...even for EVE. It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to type on your keyboard and remove all doubt.

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