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ima cute pirate Viziam Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.08.07 19:39:45 - [1] - Quote so ive noticed how overpowered and how easy it is. and i have come to realize that there is no risk to it, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. therefore, i want to get in on it. how do i solo suicide gank a hauler?
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12776	Posted - 2016.08.07 20:24:10 - [2] - Quote Fit a catalyst with railguns, go to Jita 4-4, target the station and shoot Voila You've now (attempted to) suicide gank the richest hauler in all of New Eden Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1825	Posted - 2016.08.07 20:32:37 - [3] - Quote Or just fit a Catalyst with neutron blasters, find an AFK Venture, and let forth the booms. Work your way up from there. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Brokk Witgenstein Extreme Agony The Wraithguard. 576	Posted - 2016.08.07 20:44:24 - [4] - Quote It's too easy! Somebody please teach me how to do it! .....then how did you know it was easy LOL? This thread's gonna be much fun I can tell
NotTheSmartestCookie New Order Logistics CODE. 150	Posted - 2016.08.07 20:49:12 - [5] - Quote And don't forget it is easy to make billions of ISK per hour while suicide ganking! Catalysts do not hold up well under gate guns, so fit a cruiser with lots of DPS and a semblance of tank (Moa, Vexor). You will need an alt to scoop the loot, so the alt may as well be used to cargo and ship scan autopiloting ships. If your scout detects a ship with good loot and bad tank warp in the ganker and join the elite club of "High Sec Content Providers"(tm) Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time. Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3. Proud shareholder in Halaima MinerBumping
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1825	Posted - 2016.08.07 20:50:01 - [6] - Quote Brokk Witgenstein wrote: It's too easy! Somebody please teach me how to do it! .....then how did you know it was easy LOL? This thread's gonna be much fun I can tell First, get a Velator...... Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Brokk Witgenstein Extreme Agony The Wraithguard. 576	Posted - 2016.08.07 20:51:43 - [7] - Quote More thinking along the lines of a smartbombing Rokh on the Hek undock. It'll be glorious!
Omar Alharazaad Nefarious Porpoise 3024	Posted - 2016.08.07 23:33:43 - [8] - Quote Personally I recommend a RLM Orthrus, ideally faction fit for ganking. Just sit on the Jita undock and blap the first T1 hauler you see, you'll almost always recoup your losses that way. Quick easy ISK. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Dirty Forum Alt Forum Alts Anonymous 454	Posted - 2016.08.08 00:18:05 - [9] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Personally I recommend a RLM Orthrus, ideally faction fit for ganking. Just sit on the Jita undock and blap the first T1 hauler you see, you'll almost always recoup your losses that way. Quick easy ISK. If you want to go for t2 haulers you'll probably need an officer fit. But if you want to save some money I'm willing to give up part of my sec status to help you if you provide me a proper faction-fit ganking orthrus - and you can even keep most of the loot to cover the expenses.
Shallanna Yassavi Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 309	Posted - 2016.08.08 02:08:28 - [10] - Quote Hypnotize the indy pilot with a prayer to Bob in local, and once you have him in a suggestible state, have him eject from the indy. I know, it's boring without fireworks. A signature :o
Nitshe Razvedka 1062	Posted - 2016.08.08 02:47:04 - [11] - Quote ima cute pirate wrote: so ive noticed how overpowered and how easy it is. and i have come to realize that there is no risk to it, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. therefore, i want to get in on it. how do i solo suicide gank a hauler? Good old Nitshe will look after you, PM me when you next go out. I'll show you the ropes me hearty, an apprentice ganker should always be shown the 'golden rivet'. Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS. Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 2973	Posted - 2016.08.08 03:15:00 - [12] - Quote Brokk Witgenstein wrote: More thinking along the lines of a smartbombing Rokh on the Hek undock. It'll be glorious! Nah but it you happen to know when an eve uni frigate roam is about to leave their home area ;) PS the hek undock is massive so you cant actually activate your smartbombs for quite some distance off it Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1306	Posted - 2016.08.08 03:54:25 - [13] - Quote NotTheSmartestCookie wrote: And don't forget it is easy to make billions of ISK per hour while suicide ganking! Catalysts do not hold up well under gate guns, so fit a cruiser with lots of DPS and a semblance of tank (Moa, Vexor). You will need an alt to scoop the loot, so the alt may as well be used to cargo and ship scan autopiloting ships. If your scout detects a ship with good loot and bad tank warp in the ganker and join the elite club of "High Sec Content Providers"(tm) Gäó Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Rulke Reynolds The Scope Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2016.08.20 17:41:03 - [14] - Quote God you guys are some sanctimonious F*** I for one will gladly tell you how to farm scumbag botting miners for kills Fit a catalyst with t2 neutron blasters, load void. Max damage output with mag stabs and hybrid turret rigs (cheap) Fit 2 cheap scrams go to a 0.5 system and find some afk-botting miners (assume they are ALL botting coz they are) use your D-scan to look for retrievers, covetors and hulks, they like ice fields in particular. when u find them, make sure they havent got any hardeners on by looking at their ship hull and making sure it isnt flashing Approach and without bumping him, park ur catalyst right on top of him and stop your ship. Dont around too long tho, if they see you on dscan or on grid they WILL know whats up... the thing is for this to work they have to be either botting or AFK. Which is why anyone who complains about it is a F* head. Overheat your guns, open fire and put ur two scrams on him. If all goes well, you will have popped him before u get concorded (and you WILL get concorded either way) The point is you lose a crappy 10m (forgot exact cost) catalyst but u get a 30m covetor kill or if ur really lucky... a 200m hulk kill Its cheap to do and easy to learn GO FORTH AND GRIEF THE BOTTERS!
Nitshe Razvedka 1278	Posted - 2016.08.20 17:53:26 - [15] - Quote Rulke Reynolds wrote: God you guys are some sanctimonious F*** I for one will gladly tell you how to farm scumbag botting miners for kills Fit a catalyst with t2 neutron blasters, load void. Max damage output with mag stabs and hybrid turret rigs (cheap) Fit 2 cheap scrams go to a 0.5 system and find some afk-botting miners (assume they are ALL botting coz they are) use your D-scan to look for retrievers, covetors and hulks, they like ice fields in particular. when u find them, make sure they havent got any hardeners on by looking at their ship hull and making sure it isnt flashing Approach and without bumping him, park ur catalyst right on top of him and stop your ship. Dont around too long tho, if they see you on dscan or on grid they WILL know whats up... the thing is for this to work they have to be either botting or AFK. Which is why anyone who complains about it is a F* head. Overheat your guns, open fire and put ur two scrams on him. If all goes well, you will have popped him before u get concorded (and you WILL get concorded either way) The point is you lose a crappy 10m (forgot exact cost) catalyst but u get a 30m covetor kill or if ur really lucky... a 200m hulk kill Its cheap to do and easy to learn GO FORTH AND GRIEF THE BOTTERS! My 4yr old Daughter loves your Minecraft Blog. Same demographic for your Eve advise? Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS. Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
Victus Henley Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.08.22 01:25:45 - [16] - Quote suicide ganking is not risk free, it's calculated risk actually
Le Plebo The Conference Elite CODE. 5	Posted - 2016.08.23 01:47:14 - [17] - Quote ima cute pirate wrote: so ive noticed how overpowered and how easy it is. and i have come to realize that there is no risk to it, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. therefore, i want to get in on it. how do i solo suicide gank a hauler? Says how easy it is but needs to ask how to do it #carebearlogic Let us know once you have found a target, destroyed, scooped loot, pulled concord and got to station. In a packed 0.5
Galaxy Mule New Order Logistics CODE. 7	Posted - 2016.08.24 13:50:45 - [18] - Quote From what I've been able to gather from the anti-gankers, you just fit a t1 cat for 2 mil, target literally any mining ship (doesn't matter where) and press f1. Boom: 1 billion ISK profit.
Brokk Witgenstein Extreme Agony The Wraithguard. 657	Posted - 2016.08.24 14:20:01 - [19] - Quote Well, actually ... I think you can try for T1 frigs, shuttles and such to get over the thought of losing your ship. Probably works better with 2-3 buddies when going for that first Mack. (meaning: have a spare, maybe even two- better to overblap it than to see it survive in 20% structure right?)
Dirty Forum Alt Forum Alts Anonymous 632	Posted - 2016.08.24 14:25:22 - [20] - Quote Galaxy Mule wrote: From what I've been able to gather from the anti-gankers, you just fit a t1 cat for 2 mil, target literally any mining ship (doesn't matter where) and press f1. Boom: 1 billion ISK profit. From what I've been able to gather from CODE. - there aren't any actual miners in the game anyway - they are all bots. And without even touching their computers ever their bots actually afk-mine, sell the ore, buy PLEX, and plex their accounts. Purely by coincidence most of them return to their computers the instant after they are ganked - and spew utterly random insults towards their attackers - incoherent gibberish... Almost as if it was randomly generated... Have you considered that they are probably just NPCs introduced into the game by CCP to distract you and give you something to fight against? The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal. Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Omar Alharazaad Nefarious Porpoise 3074	Posted - 2016.08.24 15:02:35 - [21] - Quote Rulke Reynolds wrote: God you guys are some sanctimonious F*** I for one will gladly tell you how to farm scumbag botting miners for kills Fit a catalyst with t2 neutron blasters, load void. Max damage output with mag stabs and hybrid turret rigs (cheap) Fit 2 cheap scrams go to a 0.5 system and find some afk-botting miners (assume they are ALL botting coz they are) use your D-scan to look for retrievers, covetors and hulks, they like ice fields in particular. when u find them, make sure they havent got any hardeners on by looking at their ship hull and making sure it isnt flashing Approach and without bumping him, park ur catalyst right on top of him and stop your ship. Dont around too long tho, if they see you on dscan or on grid they WILL know whats up... the thing is for this to work they have to be either botting or AFK. Which is why anyone who complains about it is a F* head. Overheat your guns, open fire and put ur two scrams on him. If all goes well, you will have popped him before u get concorded (and you WILL get concorded either way) The point is you lose a crappy 10m (forgot exact cost) catalyst but u get a 30m covetor kill or if ur really lucky... a 200m hulk kill Its cheap to do and easy to learn GO FORTH AND GRIEF THE BOTTERS! Ten yard penalty for inappropriate use of 'Grief'. Also, one player must remain in penalty box for 15 minutes due to your deliberate attempt to ruin our fun. So it is written. So it shall be done. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Galaxy Mule New Order Logistics CODE. 15	Posted - 2016.08.25 18:13:32 - [22] - Quote Dirty Forum Alt wrote: Galaxy Mule wrote: From what I've been able to gather from the anti-gankers, you just fit a t1 cat for 2 mil, target literally any mining ship (doesn't matter where) and press f1. Boom: 1 billion ISK profit. From what I've been able to gather from CODE. - there aren't any actual miners in the game anyway - they are all bots. And without even touching their computers ever their bots actually afk-mine, sell the ore, buy PLEX, and plex their accounts. Purely by coincidence most of them return to their computers the instant after they are ganked - and spew utterly random insults towards their attackers - incoherent gibberish... Almost as if it was randomly generated... Have you considered that they are probably just NPCs introduced into the game by CCP to distract you and give you something to fight against? Now that we've identified the problem, we can start working on solutions.
Humuhumunukunukuapua'a The Random Tangent 40	Posted - 2016.08.26 08:05:25 - [23] - Quote meh suicide ganking is easy. ayone who says its not overpowered and shouldnt be changed is just enjoying the easy killmails and overpowered aspect of tear collection. fact is, and they say it often as well so thats how you know its overpowered, you cant do anything about it. nada. zilch. if youre in a freighter, youre dead. they can bump you, come with 10 catalysts, suicide gank and fail, wait out the 15 minute timer, come back, hit you again and again and again. there is absolutely zero you can do about it. i could care less. im not a freighter pilot. but that doesnt mean i dont have eyes.
Noragen Neirfallas Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance 3041	Posted - 2016.08.26 08:26:50 - [24] - Quote Humuhumunukunukuapua'a wrote: meh suicide ganking is easy. ayone who says its not overpowered and shouldnt be changed is just enjoying the easy killmails and overpowered aspect of tear collection. fact is, and they say it often as well so thats how you know its overpowered, you cant do anything about it. nada. zilch. if youre in a freighter, youre dead. they can bump you, come with 10 catalysts, suicide gank and fail, wait out the 15 minute timer, come back, hit you again and again and again. there is absolutely zero you can do about it. i could care less. im not a freighter pilot. but that doesnt mean i dont have eyes. Yeah that isn't a thing anymore... Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Max Trix favourite ISD '"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
Galaxy Mule New Order Logistics CODE. 15	Posted - 2016.08.26 19:09:34 - [25] - Quote lmao, all this thread needs is someone who can express their loathing for sucide ganking without also expressing their complete ignorance of it.
NotTheSmartestCookie New Order Logistics CODE. 185	Posted - 2016.08.26 19:58:48 - [26] - Quote Humuhumunukunukuapua'a wrote: meh suicide ganking is easy. ayone who says its not overpowered and shouldnt be changed is just enjoying the easy killmails and overpowered aspect of tear collection. fact is, and they say it often as well so thats how you know its overpowered, you cant do anything about it. nada. zilch. if youre in a freighter, youre dead. they can bump you, come with 10 catalysts, suicide gank and fail, wait out the 15 minute timer, come back, hit you again and again and again. there is absolutely zero you can do about it. i could care less. im not a freighter pilot. but that doesnt mean i dont have eyes. That is after the nerf. Before the nerf we would get an eve mail every time a freighter undocked informing us of the cargo value and the destination that was set. We could kill them with 4 T1-fitted catalysts. And if the drop was less than 1B we always could petition CCP for ship reimbursement. True story. Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time. Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3. Proud shareholder in Halaima MinerBumping
Humuhumunukunukuapua'a The Random Tangent 40	Posted - 2016.08.27 05:00:34 - [27] - Quote NotTheSmartestCookie wrote: Humuhumunukunukuapua'a wrote: meh suicide ganking is easy. ayone who says its not overpowered and shouldnt be changed is just enjoying the easy killmails and overpowered aspect of tear collection. fact is, and they say it often as well so thats how you know its overpowered, you cant do anything about it. nada. zilch. if youre in a freighter, youre dead. they can bump you, come with 10 catalysts, suicide gank and fail, wait out the 15 minute timer, come back, hit you again and again and again. there is absolutely zero you can do about it. i could care less. im not a freighter pilot. but that doesnt mean i dont have eyes. That is after the nerf. Before the nerf we would get an eve mail every time a freighter undocked informing us of the cargo value and the destination that was set. We could kill them with 4 T1-fitted catalysts. And if the drop was less than 1B we always could petition CCP for ship reimbursement. True story. if it wasnt risk free and relatively easy, all you alts wouldnt be doing it. ive done it too, not since recent patches ill be honest. its something nullbears can do when theres no one to blob in nullsec. make blue donut, get bored, do some risk free peeveepee. leet
Solecist Project 32597	Posted - 2016.08.27 23:49:18 - [28] - Quote Well ..... he's not completely wrong.............. Ahem. I like glasses. That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia 8 Golden Rules of EVE
Galaxy Mule New Order Logistics CODE. 16	Posted - 2016.08.28 19:17:55 - [29] - Quote Lmao "nullbear", "blob", "blue donut", this guy is like a charicature of a Highsec carebear.
Humuhumunukunukuapua'a The Random Tangent 41	Posted - 2016.09.04 06:05:37 - [30] - Quote Galaxy Mule wrote: Lmao "nullbear", "blob", "blue donut", this guy is like a charicature of a Highsec carebear. except im not. i hate highsec. carebears are highsec. nullbears are people in null who think they are better than highsec carebears simply because they are f1 monkeys in null. the blue donut is all you tards afraid to risk damaging your killboard so you friend up everyone. and yes...everyone know all nullbears blob. thats a fact.
Faylee Freir The Phoenix Rising Vendetta Mercenary Group 290	Posted - 2016.09.04 06:43:00 - [31] - Quote Humuhumunukunukuapua'a wrote: meh suicide ganking is easy. ayone who says its not overpowered and shouldnt be changed is just enjoying the easy killmails and overpowered aspect of tear collection. fact is, and they say it often as well so thats how you know its overpowered, you cant do anything about it. nada. zilch. if youre in a freighter, youre dead. they can bump you, come with 10 catalysts, suicide gank and fail, wait out the 15 minute timer, come back, hit you again and again and again. there is absolutely zero you can do about it. i could care less. im not a freighter pilot. but that doesnt mean i dont have eyes. Sure the risk of being ganked in anything is always a constant threat. If someone wants you dead, can field enough alpha, and pull it,off then they have every right to that option. Ganking doesnt need to be driven by direct profit, but is simply another activity that the sandbox provides us. Suicide ganking definitely has its strengths, but also has its counters the biggest of which is proper scouting / intel gathering, balancing your risk vs reward between cargo, fitting, and ship-type, using a webber, and having proper support when moving cargo in a capital ship (freighter). So the biggest issue with all of this is that it takes additional effort, time, and resources which is something that gankers also have to take into consideration and utilize in order to perform proper ganks. Example: a ganker without a scout and proper warp-in has a good chance of messing up some ganks... Just like a freighter pilot without a webber has a good chance of being bumped. Ganking isnt broken, unfair, and/or griefing and is a part of the sandbox. So make smart decisions and put forth proper efforts to minimize your risk while undocked. If anything people need to complain about things like bypassing crimewatch by scooping wreck contents into the fleet hangar of a DST. Sure bumping is a controversial and touchy issue, but just like the points mentioned above... If you arent bad and put forth effort into your activities then you will see that flying around isnt as daunting as people make it out to be. Ganking and gankers arent the boogieman. There are clear mechanics that make it possible to both gank and stop a gank. Take the time to educate yourself instead of pointing fingers and crying about how gankers out forth more effort and are rewarded with kills, loot, and tears. This thread is done. HTFU
Ded Akara Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.09.04 16:20:04 - [32] - Quote Don't like being ganked? Tank more. Simple, easy, effective.
Mufdiver Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.09.10 23:16:36 - [33] - Quote If suicide ganking is perfectly fine in the eyes of CCP's rules and considered emergent gameplay, then baiting newbies in the newbie sectors and blowing them out of the sky should also be considered emergent gameplay and be fine. I guess its time to get my gank on :D
Dirty Forum Alt Forum Alts Anonymous 743	Posted - 2016.09.10 23:23:19 - [34] - Quote Mufdiver wrote: If suicide ganking is perfectly fine in the eyes of CCP's rules and considered emergent gameplay, then baiting newbies in the newbie sectors and blowing them out of the sky should also be considered emergent gameplay and be fine. I guess its time to get my gank on :D #1 - That is why there are also rules that explicitly state that rookie systems are protected areas and killing new players with any mechanic is punishable there if it isn't 100% consentual on the new player's side. #2 - People already hang out and harvest rookies for kills. CCP has cracked down a couple of times - but every time their support staff gets overloaded and stops banning the idiots doing it they move back in to farm more easy kills... But sure, if you go suicide gank there it might wake them up long enough to ban you for a while. The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal. Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 977	Posted - 2016.09.10 23:27:57 - [35] - Quote Mufdiver wrote: If suicide ganking is perfectly fine in the eyes of CCP's rules and considered emergent gameplay, then baiting newbies in the newbie sectors and blowing them out of the sky should also be considered emergent gameplay and be fine. I guess its time to get my gank on :D Such dump on display Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Iain Cariaba 3195	Posted - 2016.09.11 05:18:03 - [36] - Quote Victus Henley wrote: suicide ganking is not risk free, it's calculated risk actually It's not calculated risk. The phrase you're looking for is marginalized loss. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Faylee Freir The Phoenix Rising Vendetta Mercenary Group 304	Posted - 2016.09.11 05:35:08 - [37] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Victus Henley wrote: suicide ganking is not risk free, it's calculated risk actually It's not calculated risk. The phrase you're looking for is marginalized loss. shutup HTFU
Omar Alharazaad Nefarious Porpoise 3080	Posted - 2016.09.12 06:27:58 - [38] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Victus Henley wrote: suicide ganking is not risk free, it's calculated risk actually It's not calculated risk. The phrase you're looking for is marginalized loss. if the gank fails then the ships are lost with no gain. That's kind of risk in a sort of, I don't know, INTRINSIC fashion. Yes, the ships are ALWAYS lost, so many people consider this a risk free operation, but that's patently untrue. The forums are rife with stories of failed ganks, and there are various entities out there who take great pride in their ability to not die at the hands of the ne'er do wells. The price is paid in advance, but the return is not guaranteed. Just because the majority of pilots who suffer from these events are either not paying attention, are stupid, or both does not mean that the process is free of risk of failure and loss of assets without anything to show for it. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

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