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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
3
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:03:36 -
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tainted demon wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:
You play Call of Douchebags. Suddenly everything becomes clear. Your opinion is invalid.
I don't really play COD was simply using it as an example to show how dumb your argument is when there is things you could have done to prevent it. like oh i don't know FIT RIGS maybe??? What is clear to me now is common sense is way over your head, so to make it simple for you Sc0rpyon, more tank = less gank tank means more hit points and resists on your ship and LESS gank doesn't mean you can never be ganked you are just less likely to be.
The only thing that is clear from your inane ramblings is the bare-faced arrogance you seem to enjoy throwing about like yesterdays discarded underpants. I can only presume you wouldn't recognise common sense if it stripped naked, painted itself purple and danced the bolero, singing: "Common Sense is here again...!"
Either way you've successfully proved your ineptitude when it comes to adding value to a conversation. Thank you for your unvaluable contribution. It was an important point which needed to be made. But I suggest we leave the rest of this conversation to those members with a brain larger than a grape.
Hmmm. In fact, are you SURE you don't play CoD... the facts imply otherwise... |

Nitshe Razvedka
1247
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:09:21 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:tainted demon wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:
You play Call of Douchebags. Suddenly everything becomes clear. Your opinion is invalid.
I don't really play COD was simply using it as an example to show how dumb your argument is when there is things you could have done to prevent it. like oh i don't know FIT RIGS maybe??? What is clear to me now is common sense is way over your head, so to make it simple for you Sc0rpyon, more tank = less gank tank means more hit points and resists on your ship and LESS gank doesn't mean you can never be ganked you are just less likely to be. The only thing that is clear from your inane ramblings is the bare-faced arrogance you seem to enjoy throwing about like yesterdays discarded underpants. I can only presume you wouldn't recognise common sense if it stripped naked, painted itself purple and danced the bolero, singing: "Common Sense is here again...!" Either way you've successfully proved your ineptitude when it comes to adding value to a conversation. Thank you for your unvaluable contribution. It was an important point which needed to be made. But I suggest we leave the rest of this conversation to those members with a brain larger than a grape. Hmmm. In fact, are you SURE you don't play CoD... the facts imply otherwise...
The guide will advise you to be polite to the natives, esp considering Tainted Demon is in the Best merc alliance in HiSec. I am sure Tainted meant to call you inexperienced and not dumb. But you would be wise to read the guide sooner than latter.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
3
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:12:54 -
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All this venom from a simple vent. Seems highly irrational.
I'm happy to ease back, Netflix and chill....
I pride myself on being polite and appreciative to those who offer a kind / sympathetic word or piece of useful advice. But rudeness and spite only breeds ill repose and ire.
I apologise to anyone I may have offended, assuming they do the same in return. |

Paranoid Loyd
9437
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:42:09 -
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It's fairly obvious you are new around here, no need for pleasantries or whitty banter, in fact you are only fueling the fire, if that's your thing proceed, but it doesn't seem to be, so if someone says something you don't like or take offence to, just ignore it, again, replying only fuels the fire.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
4
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:51:21 -
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Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff? :-( |

Nitshe Razvedka
1252
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:55:18 -
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On its best days a crucible of competing arguments, but mostly a smouldering dumpster.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Paranoid Loyd
9437
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:11:06 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff? :-( Sure but when you see the same whiny ignorant OP over and over again, it gets old real quick. You set the tone and people are replying in kind. If you had come here asking for advice about how to handle the situation better instead of venting your frustrations, the thread would have been different. But you didn't do that, you chose to vent so people are venting back, trolling and evaluating whether or not you are a good target.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Faylee Freir
Facetious Indifference Vendetta Mercenary Group
280
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:13:06 -
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Concord is there to provide consequences, not protect. There are ways and methods you can employ to your favor to decrease the probability of you getting ganked. If youre interested in those methods, just ask. Otherwise i feel this is some bait thread that will emd up being locked.
HTFU
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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:39:12 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:So, I left this game about 10 years back or so (with a brief resurgence about 7 years ago) - mostly because of the sheer amount of pointless griefing that was going on.
Then my mate said I should come back and start playing again. I grudgingly agreed to give it another go and see if the game had improved.
So... 3 days in, I've got my mining barge up and running. All good. I hop on over to a *cough* "safe" space Asteroid belt in 0.8 sec. 0.8 sec.... Not some crappy low sec. 0.8....
All is good for a while until suddenly out of nowhere, I notice warning lights and sirens go off. Within half a secon, my shields and armour are gone and never enough time to hop back to the station. Boom.
Shortly after that, the police finally decide to turn up and blow the idiot griefer up. What for? There was really no point for this idiot to do this other than to just cause someone else problems. The fact that he had a 500,000,000 bounty on him says plenty, I guess.
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better. Bit of a shame, really. :-(
I'm sorry for your loss, Sc0rpyon.
This seems like a good time for you to invest in a Mining Permit. They're only 10m Isk and valid for one year. Reach out to me in-game and we'll set you up.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
3021
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:50:48 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Hmm, at least (most) of the last few responses have been reasonable with legitimate suggestions to consider. (Aside from a couple of silly childish attempts at one line retorts from a couple of little kids).
Quoted for Irony
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
4
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:52:45 -
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Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:So, I left this game about 10 years back or so (with a brief resurgence about 7 years ago) - mostly because of the sheer amount of pointless griefing that was going on.
Then my mate said I should come back and start playing again. I grudgingly agreed to give it another go and see if the game had improved.
So... 3 days in, I've got my mining barge up and running. All good. I hop on over to a *cough* "safe" space Asteroid belt in 0.8 sec. 0.8 sec.... Not some crappy low sec. 0.8....
All is good for a while until suddenly out of nowhere, I notice warning lights and sirens go off. Within half a secon, my shields and armour are gone and never enough time to hop back to the station. Boom.
Shortly after that, the police finally decide to turn up and blow the idiot griefer up. What for? There was really no point for this idiot to do this other than to just cause someone else problems. The fact that he had a 500,000,000 bounty on him says plenty, I guess.
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better. Bit of a shame, really. :-(
I'm sorry for your loss, Sc0rpyon. This seems like a good time for you to invest in a Mining Permit. They're only 10m Isk and valid for one year. Reach out to me in-game and we'll set you up.
Thanks.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
4
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Posted - 2016.08.18 21:01:12 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Hmm, at least (most) of the last few responses have been reasonable with legitimate suggestions to consider. (Aside from a couple of silly childish attempts at one line retorts from a couple of little kids).
Sc0rpyon wrote:You play Call of Douchebags. Suddenly everything becomes clear. Your opinion is invalid.
Just going to leave these here
And now we're on to cherry-picking, like a feminist. How wonderful! :-)
Can we all join in?
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
326
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Posted - 2016.08.18 21:17:22 -
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Without gankers, hisec mining and hauling would be seriously, mind-numbingly boring, even more so than it already is. That guy and this saved you an expensive lesson with a freighter.
Or you're related to certain gankers and are laughing maniacally in comms with every new page.
A signature :o
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Sere O'Asis
Summer Evenings and Autumn Skies
107
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Posted - 2016.08.18 22:03:02 -
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Faylee Freir wrote:Concord is there to provide consequences, not protect.
This is pertinent. I wish I could have a banner proclaiming this upon the exit gate of every starter system in EVE; cause there'd be a lot less frustration on all our parts, if new player/returning players understood the realities of the game.
Concord punishes. It does not protect. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17511
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Posted - 2016.08.18 22:46:52 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff? :-( Looks like you just picked the wrong spot to vent. A quick forum orientation is in order i feel. New citizens Questions and answers : Vets being suspiciously nice to newbies, if there were candy involved the fbi would storm the place (go here for troll free general advice) General discussion : Here be trolls, its grand once you catch the beat and flow of it Warefare and tactics : Faction warefare smacktalk Ships and modules : I has ship, halp! Crime & punishment : the place to talk yourself/someone onto/off the shitlist ... Or just pay mercenaries. Player features and ideas discussion : Where sense goes to die
Out of pod experiance : Here be solvent abusers, they giggle a lot and touch your face...
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
3021
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Posted - 2016.08.18 23:02:48 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff? :-( Looks like you just picked the wrong spot to vent. A quick forum orientation is in order i feel. New citizens Questions and answers : Vets being suspiciously nice to newbies, if there were candy involved the fbi would storm the place (go here for troll free general advice) General discussion : Here be trolls, its grand once you catch the beat and flow of it Warefare and tactics : Faction warefare smacktalk Ships and modules : I has ship, halp! Crime & punishment : the place to talk yourself/someone onto/off the shitlist ... Or just pay mercenaries. Player features and ideas discussion : Where sense goes to die Out of pod experiance : Here be solvent abusers, they giggle a lot and touch your face... Also C&P is where ISD send threads to be trolled apparently
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Nitshe Razvedka
1254
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Posted - 2016.08.18 23:03:56 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Hmm, at least (most) of the last few responses have been reasonable with legitimate suggestions to consider. (Aside from a couple of silly childish attempts at one line retorts from a couple of little kids).
Sc0rpyon wrote:You play Call of Douchebags. Suddenly everything becomes clear. Your opinion is invalid.
Just going to leave these here And now we're on to cherry-picking, like a feminist. How wonderful! :-) Can we all join in?
I said thank Noragan for the guide, not call him a feminist. And don't thank the Codie for the licence, just say 'bash it up your asss'.
Got it.  
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Lawrence Lawton
The Conference Elite CODE.
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 02:48:49 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief. Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it. Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
Run your mouth some more and you'll be griefed again soon. Sigh... calm down, dear...
Ignorant and condescending. Learn your place, miner. You have just earned yourself a place on the Red Pen List. Your permit costs are now tripled to 30m ISK and you are at increased risk of ganking. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7994
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Posted - 2016.08.19 05:27:55 -
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Lawrence Lawton wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief. Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it. Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
Run your mouth some more and you'll be griefed again soon. Sigh... calm down, dear... Ignorant and condescending. Learn your place, miner. You have just earned yourself a place on the Red Pen List. Your permit costs are now tripled to 30m ISK and you are at increased risk of ganking.
We know what you really do with that red pen.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 06:47:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff? :-( Looks like you just picked the wrong spot to vent. A quick forum orientation is in order i feel. New citizens Questions and answers : Vets being suspiciously nice to newbies, if there were candy involved the fbi would storm the place (go here for troll free general advice) General discussion : Here be trolls, its grand once you catch the beat and flow of it Warefare and tactics : Faction warefare smacktalk Ships and modules : I has ship, halp! Crime & punishment : the place to talk yourself/someone onto/off the shitlist ... Or just pay mercenaries. Player features and ideas discussion : Where sense goes to die Out of pod experiance : Here be solvent abusers, they giggle a lot and touch your face...
Hmm, thanks - this is good stuff to know. Appreciated. |

Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 06:55:16 -
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Lawrence Lawton wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief. Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it. Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
Run your mouth some more and you'll be griefed again soon. Sigh... calm down, dear... Ignorant and condescending. Learn your place, miner. You have just earned yourself a place on the Red Pen List. Your permit costs are now tripled to 30m ISK and you are at increased risk of ganking.
Lawrence,
Your permit offer intrigues me. I'm in.
Scorpyon |

Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
397
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Posted - 2016.08.19 08:23:05 -
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Wow, the salt content from the OP and Nitshe are just overwheming.
Ok, original poster...here is the deal.
I am not even going to bother looking at the killmail because a couple of the posters already commented on it, and I was right in what I was thinking anyways.
Procurer. If you are going to mine, do it in that ship right there. I would suggest you don't mine and go do literally anything else but some people are just lazy like that.
Also, do not walk away from your keyboard if you are mining. We call that 'afk mining'. And those who gank KNOW when you are not at your keyboard, and that is part of the reason why they do it.
As for griefing, what you experienced is what we call 'content creation'. Ganking is a valid form of expression in this game, creating content for those who think Eve Online is a single player PvE game...which is isn't. Eve Online is a PvP game where everyone can shoot at anyone else...but in certain areas there are consequences. CONCORD will retaliate and kill the offender (if you are not at war with him) but there is NO protection.
If you want to protect yourself, I refer you to a post of mine in another thread that explains how to keep yourself safe while mining. The post refers to wardecs but watching for gankers have the same rules.
If you choose not to follow these rules and do what you have been doing, they WILL do it again.
Good luck to you, miner.
This would cure me of the fear...
CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 08:39:31 -
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I don't even "like" mining. But that's what the storygiver dude wanted.  I blame him...  |

StonerPhReaK
AFK Inc.
448
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Posted - 2016.08.19 10:19:05 -
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Before you leave this time. And it will probably be for good. Can we have your stuff? If its mining equipment reprocess it and send over the minerals to Nitshe. Shrubbery Noragen will take care of, He's the edward scissor hands of eve. Ralph is a King so anything gold he will surely love. And dont forget to recycle something expensive in Bobs name. May your mining clone be biomass'd in peace. Bobmen. *Motions fingers over face in the form of celtic cross while whispering our saviors blessings. 
Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 10:36:34 -
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StonerPhReaK wrote:Before you leave this time. And it will probably be for good. Can we have your stuff? If its mining equipment reprocess it and send over the minerals to Nitshe. Shrubbery Noragen will take care of, He's the edward scissor hands of eve. Ralph is a King so anything gold he will surely love. And dont forget to recycle something expensive in Bobs name. May your mining clone be biomass'd in peace. Bobmen. *Motions fingers over face in the form of celtic cross while whispering our saviors blessings. 
No, but I welcome any payments for thread-space purchasing via the use of replies and suchlike. It all helps. Those mining barges ain't cheap, you know!  Please send the ISK via escrow at your nearest convenience to my account. I am happy to take any amount in units of 1 million. Your custom is most appreciated and we hope you enjoy our thread-sapce rental services.
o7 |

Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1839
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Posted - 2016.08.19 13:29:34 -
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Why, hello there, OP.

Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
6
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Posted - 2016.08.19 13:45:14 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Why, hello there, OP. 
Greetings, random citizen!  |

Omar Alharazaad
Nefarious Porpoise
3062
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Posted - 2016.08.19 13:45:18 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Why, hello there, OP.  I'd ask if you were thinking what i'm thinking, but I know for a fact you can't find rubber pants at this time of the night.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
3022
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Posted - 2016.08.19 14:09:29 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Why, hello there, OP.  I'd ask if you were thinking what i'm thinking, but I know for a fact you can't find rubber pants at this time of the night.  Thats only because you never bothered to hit on the store clerk to get his number
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Estuary Algaert
Petulant Luddite GmbH
0
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Posted - 2016.08.19 15:13:12 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Why, hello there, OP.  I'd ask if you were thinking what i'm thinking, but I know for a fact you can't find rubber pants at this time of the night.  Thats only because you never bothered to hit on the store clerk to get his number
It is always night time in space  |
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