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Nitshe Razvedka
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Posted - 2016.08.20 07:38:08 -
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Some people don't like eating their own rhetoric, so why give it to us? ( on topic, 'griefing')
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 07:59:13 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Elyham wrote:
How can you be unprepared for an attack? You [left your house], which was your consent to be [attacked]...
Why does this sound so familiar....  And now we have officially blurred the line between game and real life. I give it a page or 2 until lock. Anybody wanna start a betting pool?
You're talking about a game which is actively encouraged to affect real life money, health, personal property and emotional wellbeing. And this somehow surprises you...?
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Nitshe Razvedka
1271
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Posted - 2016.08.20 08:12:41 -
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Scorpyon, you had the wood on Loyd n Sol, stay out of the rough on RL themes. Listen to author of your guide here. 
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 08:32:47 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Scorpyon, you had the wood on Loyd n Sol, stay out of the rough on RL themes. Listen to author of your guide here.
I like the golf analogies :-) |
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
Rabble Alliance
3027
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Posted - 2016.08.20 08:47:27 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Elyham wrote:
How can you be unprepared for an attack? You [left your house], which was your consent to be [attacked]...
Why does this sound so familiar.... And now we have officially blurred the line between game and real life. I give it a page or 2 until lock. Anybody wanna start a betting pool? You're talking about a game which is actively encouraged to affect real life money, health, personal property and emotional wellbeing. And this somehow surprises you...?
No matter how much isk I make it wont affect my real life money. No matter how many times I'm podded or take booster drugs my real life health is unaffected. No matter how many scams I fall prey to in jita they won't get my car. And finally no matter how many times I fail in this game will it cease being just a game. The day any of this changes for you quit immediately.
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 09:29:07 -
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Sure I get what you're saying there, but I'm referring to the many documented cases where this game has affected people in their real lives and not only that, has been seemingly encouraged in the process. It is a shame to see a game have this effect on the real world in the way it does, but I suppose it is what it is.
And I think that in itself ties in with the very concept of griefing as an action. You invest real world time and money into this gane, so essentially you place a real world value on everythibg you do, whether consciously or not. And thats any sort of seemingly pointless loss can be upsetting to the one who loses it.
And therein lies the inefficacy. You are powerless to effect change to your circumstance.
Its a conundrum, for sure. |
Elite Harvester
Elite Harvesters
64
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Posted - 2016.08.20 09:29:46 -
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It's not griefing, just business. The business of saving Highsec.
Maybe you should buy a mining permit for 10,000,000 ISK. 
Visit www.MinerBumping.com to find out how you can help save Highsec.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 09:54:29 -
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Elite Harvester wrote:It's not griefing, just business. The business of saving Highsec. Maybe you should buy a mining permit for 10,000,000 ISK.
A mining permit you say?
Intriguing.
I'm in...!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
Rabble Alliance
3027
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Posted - 2016.08.20 10:46:20 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Sure I get what you're saying there, but I'm referring to the many documented cases where this game has affected people in their real lives and not only that, has been seemingly encouraged in the process. It is a shame to see a game have this effect on the real world in the way it does, but I suppose it is what it is.
And I think that in itself ties in with the very concept of griefing as an action. You invest real world time and money into this gane, so essentially you place a real world value on everythibg you do, whether consciously or not. And thats any sort of seemingly pointless loss can be upsetting to the one who loses it.
And therein lies the inefficacy. You are powerless to effect change to your circumstance.
Its a conundrum, for sure.
if you personally feel this way about this or any other MMO game quit. I can't be more clear than this. It's a game you play for fun much like monopoly or tag. When the game stops being fun because it means that much to you its time to stop playing. ESPECIALLY a game where blowing up your opponents things is kinda one of the goals
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1840
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Posted - 2016.08.20 11:10:37 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:if you personally feel this way about this or any other MMO game quit. I can't be more clear than this. It's a game you play for fun much like monopoly or tag. When the game stops being fun because it means that much to you its time to stop playing. ESPECIALLY a game where blowing up your opponents things is kinda one of the goals
I always wonder what happens when somebody from The Loser Generation goes to Reno or Vegas and happens to lose all their money. I wonder if they actually try and have the casino's shut down for 'theft' and 'harassment'.
That would make a truly hilarious TV show, I think.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12856
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Posted - 2016.08.20 11:16:23 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:So, I left this game about 10 years back or so ...
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better.
Bit of a shame, really.
:-(
Neither has the type of non-committal, milquetoast, part-time player group it occasionally attracts improved either
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2820
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Posted - 2016.08.20 11:54:11 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:So, I left this game about 10 years back or so (with a brief resurgence about 7 years ago) - mostly because of the sheer amount of pointless griefing that was going on.
Then my mate said I should come back and start playing again. I grudgingly agreed to give it another go and see if the game had improved.
So... 3 days in, I've got my mining barge up and running. All good. I hop on over to a *cough* "safe" space Asteroid belt in 0.8 sec. 0.8 sec.... Not some crappy low sec. 0.8....
All is good for a while until suddenly out of nowhere, I notice warning lights and sirens go off.
Within half a secon, my shields and armour are gone and never enough time to hop back to the station.
Boom.
Shortly after that, the police finally decide to turn up and blow the idiot griefer up.
What for? There was really no point for this idiot to do this other than to just cause someone else problems. The fact that he had a 500,000,000 bounty on him says plenty, I guess.
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better.
Bit of a shame, really.
:-(
You lost one Retriever in a 0.5 System and all your other losses happened in Low Sec. And then you whine at the forums about grieving. Seriously, dude?
Please tell us more about how that loss in High Sec did hurt your delicate feelings.
Let me say it this way.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1277
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Posted - 2016.08.20 12:36:37 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:
I always wonder what happens when somebody from The Loser Generation goes to Reno or Vegas and happens to lose all their money. I wonder if they actually try and have the casino's shut down for 'theft' and 'harassment'.
That would make a truly hilarious TV show, I think.
Tell us Mike, what did the casino management say to you when you asked them? 
Did Lemmiwinks get out on your road-trip to vegas?
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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NotTheSmartestCookie
New Order Logistics
CODE.
170
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Posted - 2016.08.20 12:47:40 -
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Casino management reactions varied, but centered around:
- www.minerbumping.com, I love that site
- You like to take advantage of stupid people who keep making the same mistakes? What a coincidence, so do we.
- Those CONCORD dudes sound hard-core, can't you just buy them off like we did with senator Reid?
Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.
Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3.
Proud shareholder in Halaima MinerBumping
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Nitshe Razvedka
1277
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Posted - 2016.08.20 13:03:18 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You lost one Retriever in a 0.5 System and all your other losses happened in Low Sec. And then you whine at the forums about grieving. Seriously, dude? Please tell us more about how that loss in High Sec did hurt your delicate feelings.
Says the Minecraft legend who looses a tanked Hulk to Blood Raiders???!!!! 
Still see you have the Codie tramp stamp in your bio Jack. Nothin original to place up top??!!
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Nitshe Razvedka
1277
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Posted - 2016.08.20 13:24:22 -
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Now Bumble would never call me milquetoast, nor I him. Common ground.
In regards to his bio, I still think its satire.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 13:35:49 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You lost one Retriever in a 0.5 System and all your other losses happened in Low Sec. And then you whine at the forums about grieving. Seriously, dude? Please tell us more about how that loss in High Sec did hurt your delicate feelings. Says the Minecraft legend who looses a tanked Hulk to Blood Raiders???!!!! ( cpu loose power?) Still see you have the Codie tramp stamp in your bio Jack. Nothin original to place up top??!! (Still on topic, griefing codies)
*milksnort* hehehehehe
Just going to leave this here:
http://www.chelwest.nhs.uk/services/surgery/burns-service |
Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2820
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Posted - 2016.08.20 15:44:15 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You lost one Retriever in a 0.5 System and all your other losses happened in Low Sec. And then you whine at the forums about grieving. Seriously, dude? Please tell us more about how that loss in High Sec did hurt your delicate feelings. Says the Minecraft legend who looses a tanked Hulk to Blood Raiders???!!!! ( cpu loose power?) Still see you have the Codie tramp stamp in your bio Jack. Nothin original to place up top??!! (Still on topic, griefing codies) *milksnort* hehehehehe Just going to leave this here: http://www.chelwest.nhs.uk/services/surgery/burns-service
Loss reason: Drunk Eve, best EVE. (Maybe I should play less hammered more often)
So what? Did i come to the forums and whine about it like a spoiled prat? No and that's the difference between you and me, but obviously morons like you and Natshe don't even get that.
Today I lost a freighter with ~230M Isk load to a gate camper in Niarja and guess what, I still don't give a **** about it.
Game was working as intended, and I give a heartfelt GF to that guy.
OTOH Dude, you're just a whiny entitled prat bitching and moaning about a guy who crushed you sandcastle. I pitty you, seriously, I pitty you and that clown Natshe also.
Let me say it this way.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1277
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Posted - 2016.08.20 16:37:20 -
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Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 16:41:39 -
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Careful, he might accuse us of griefing.
Oh wait....
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
577
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Posted - 2016.08.20 16:53:56 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game. It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content  But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go  P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter You love his banter and would be lost without it. I feed on intellectual conversation that I can sanely contribute to. Those don't ever involve white knights of your nature Where it not for white knights running things you would not be the person you are today.
lol white knights need me around to survive,
you'd all be sooooooooooooooooooo lost if I weren't there XD
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12858
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Posted - 2016.08.20 17:34:45 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Now Bumble would never call me milquetoast, nor I him. Common ground. In regards to his bio, I still think its satire.
It's "in", or at least it seemed to be a while back 
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Jagd Wilde
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
15
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Posted - 2016.08.20 19:09:19 -
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this has got to be an ag fluff piece, it's that full of fail.
OP, why are you High Sec mining in a PVP game?
And no, I don't for one second believe that High Sec miners do anything meaningful in this game other than provide tears after losing incorrectly flown ships. Play EVE correctly and you won't be so salty. 
or go back to ED? where all you have to do is play in offline mode, completely safe, like a carebear should be. |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 19:35:28 -
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Jagd Wilde wrote:this has got to be an ag fluff piece, it's that full of fail. OP, why are you High Sec mining in a PVP game? And no, I don't for one second believe that High Sec miners do anything meaningful in this game other than provide tears after losing incorrectly flown ships. Play EVE correctly and you won't be so salty. or go back to ED? where all you have to do is play in offline mode, completely safe, like a carebear should be.
That was an important point, sir, and One that needed to be made.
Well done.
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Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2823
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Posted - 2016.08.20 19:45:22 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
It was Nithse, definitely.
Nithse, maybe i should become a ganker too.
I think that must be some serious fun, given all the salt and the tears, that other little brat is delievering.
What do ya think Nithse, should i apply to join CODE?
Let me say it this way.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 20:14:28 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
It was Nithse, definitely. Nithse, maybe i should become a ganker too. I think that must be some serious fun, given all the salt and the tears, that other little brat is delievering. What do ya think Nithse, should i apply to join CODE?
Hey kid. A word of advice about begging for work. It helps if you spell the guy's name right.
Twice.
Lol. |
Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2823
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Posted - 2016.08.20 21:38:28 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
It was Nithse, definitely. Nithse, maybe i should become a ganker too. I think that must be some serious fun, given all the salt and the tears, that other little brat is delievering. What do ya think Nithse, should i apply to join CODE? Hey kid. A word of advice about begging for work. It helps if you spell the guy's name right. Twice. Lol.
Nitshe, Natshe, Nisthe, Nitshe, AG wannabe, it's all spelled the same way.
Let me say it this way.
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Lugia3
Tri-gun
Psychotic Tendencies.
1510
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Posted - 2016.08.20 21:56:32 -
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5/7 thread what a ride. This thread does it all. Op tears, anti-ganker tears, ganker tears, legendary shutdowns.
And by far the best part is how op keeps calling people kids.
"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1842
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Posted - 2016.08.20 22:21:04 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Tell us Mike, what did the casino management say to you when you asked them? Did Lemmiwinks get out on your road-trip to vegas?
The manager told me they banned you for life and that you cried like a French schoolgirl.
Why?
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
405
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Posted - 2016.08.20 23:19:00 -
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#inB4eventuallockofthread
This would cure me of the fear...
CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
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