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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
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Posted - 2016.08.18 15:20:37 -
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So, I left this game about 10 years back or so (with a brief resurgence about 7 years ago) - mostly because of the sheer amount of pointless griefing that was going on.
Then my mate said I should come back and start playing again. I grudgingly agreed to give it another go and see if the game had improved.
So... 3 days in, I've got my mining barge up and running. All good. I hop on over to a *cough* "safe" space Asteroid belt in 0.8 sec. 0.8 sec.... Not some crappy low sec. 0.8....
All is good for a while until suddenly out of nowhere, I notice warning lights and sirens go off.
Within half a secon, my shields and armour are gone and never enough time to hop back to the station.
Boom.
Shortly after that, the police finally decide to turn up and blow the idiot griefer up.
What for? There was really no point for this idiot to do this other than to just cause someone else problems. The fact that he had a 500,000,000 bounty on him says plenty, I guess.
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better.
Bit of a shame, really.
:-(
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
772
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Posted - 2016.08.18 15:23:15 -
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Being shot at in a shooting game is not griefing.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
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Posted - 2016.08.18 15:28:00 -
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I don't think you seem to understand what the term griefing means.
But that's ok. You tried. That's what counts... |
Saeger1737
Bite the pillow
1669
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Posted - 2016.08.18 15:43:24 -
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That's called ganking, griefing is if I war Dec you and kill you over and over and over again... Learn your stuff.
MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
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Posted - 2016.08.18 15:55:00 -
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No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
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afk phone
Repo Industries
39
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Posted - 2016.08.18 15:57:01 -
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You were ganked. If the guy follows you all over Eve and keeps ganking you - that series of actions would constitute griefing.
Report back to us if there is a continued string of ganking by this same pilot. After several occurrences the griefing will become evident.
A review of your kb https://zkillboard.com/character/696775183/ indicates you were in a 0.5 system, not a 0.8. I understand you may be upset or frustrated by you ship loss, but misrepresenting the facts does not help you case. The review also indicates that you were ganked by different pilots over a long period of time and as you implied - the distant past ganks occurred in low sec, so they are not even ganks based on the mechanics of low sec.
I also noticed that you opted for the no tank at all option when fitting your ship. That may or may not have been part of what drew the gankers attention. I recommend you train into a Skiff mining barge, tank it to an acceptable level and enjoy the game.
I had a guy in corp that would routinely lose barges as he continually mostly afk mined in wh space. They guy mined in blank clones and t1 barges. He came out way ahead and figured in the losses as part of the game. He never cared or complained. For him the empty clone and no tank cheapo barge was the way to go.
You seem to be adverse to losing a ship, so I recommend a second time to look into the Skiff as it's a well tanked and serviceable vessel. There are even a few ganker whine threads that it is too tough and needs to have its tank reduced. It sounds like the right ship for you.
Finally, playing Eve casually and being good at Eve are 2 vastly different things. My casual miner friend didn't care about losses or about being good at eve. He just enjoyed being on comms with the guys and casual mining. You seem to want to be good at Eve and also avoid losses. To get you on your way - google 'skiff' and read up on it. If you think it's what you need - load up that training que and get to it!
Finally finally - Eve isn't for everyone. I'm not telling you to gtfo, but over time I have come to terms that the real in game consequences aren't for everyone. If you can't deal with losses and the darker side of Eve game play, there are plenty of games out there that don't have these darker play style options in them. |
Scotsman Howard
S0utherN Comfort
Test Alliance Please Ignore
142
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Posted - 2016.08.18 15:58:25 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:So, I left this game about 10 years back or so (with a brief resurgence about 7 years ago) - mostly because of the sheer amount of pointless griefing that was going on.
Then my mate said I should come back and start playing again. I grudgingly agreed to give it another go and see if the game had improved.
So... 3 days in, I've got my mining barge up and running. All good. I hop on over to a *cough* "safe" space Asteroid belt in 0.8 sec. 0.8 sec.... Not some crappy low sec. 0.8....
All is good for a while until suddenly out of nowhere, I notice warning lights and sirens go off.
Within half a secon, my shields and armour are gone and never enough time to hop back to the station.
Boom.
Shortly after that, the police finally decide to turn up and blow the idiot griefer up.
What for? There was really no point for this idiot to do this other than to just cause someone else problems. The fact that he had a 500,000,000 bounty on him says plenty, I guess.
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better.
Bit of a shame, really.
:-(
This is an odd story that I am calling BS on. Below is a list of reasons why with number 4 being the most obvious.
1. The latest kill on your board was from 2 days ago while the next was from a few days ago - Ok, everything lines up here.
2. The mining barge you were in was setup with ZERO tank (no rigs either) and for max yield. Also, it was a retreiver (known to have one of the worst tanks for barges). - Overall, you look like you were just begging to get hit.
3. Your statement "All is good for a while until suddenly out of nowhere," seems to imply you were mining AFK. At the very least, you did not have your overview properly setup to see the ship come on grid. Nor did you have dscan up to see if ships were coming in (and don't give us that crap about not wanting to click the dscan button. There is a hotkey for it you can abuse to no end now.)
4. The loss mail was in a 0.5 system (Diromitur to be precise). I could accept that you may have mistyped 0.5 as 0.8 in you op, but I do not buy that you mistyped it three times. Anyways, a quick check of the killboard in this system shows that the same corp/alliance/toons gank there with some regularity.
In the end, you jumped into the shallow end of the pool that is Eve thinking it was safe, but failed to realize that there is no shallow end and there are sharks everywhere. |
Scotsman Howard
S0utherN Comfort
Test Alliance Please Ignore
142
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Posted - 2016.08.18 15:59:29 -
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afk phone wrote:.......................
Lol, you beat me to the post button. |
Paranoid Loyd
9437
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Posted - 2016.08.18 16:00:47 -
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May I refer you to section 7?
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Faylee Freir
Facetious Indifference
Vendetta Mercenary Group
280
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Posted - 2016.08.18 16:01:12 -
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Good for you. Eve probably isnt for you. Run away before you get "griefed" again
HTFU
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afk phone
Repo Industries
39
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Posted - 2016.08.18 16:03:05 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
I truly doubt the guy ganked you for the sole purpose of causing YOU grief. If I convo'd him I would wager his first question would be: 'Who?' as he probably has no idea who you are. In Eve griefing is fairly well defined. What you have portrayed doesn't fit the EULA definition of griefing. Just because you feel aggrieved does not mean you were griefed. It's defined in the EULA, read it and decide if you can live with it during your allotted game play time on this earth.
I had a Master Chief in the Navy once tell me "Son, you don't have to agree with the rules, you just have to live by them." It helped me at the time (somewhat), perhaps it will help you (somewhat) now. |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
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Posted - 2016.08.18 16:16:35 -
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Hmm, at least (most) of the last few responses have been reasonable with legitimate suggestions to consider.
(Aside from a couple of silly childish attempts at one line retorts from a couple of little kids).
So I appreciate the suggestions made.
It's possible I could have misremembered the sec as stated and that it was indeed 0.5 rather than 0.8.
That said, though, I would still expect even 0.5 to have much better protection than it appears to.
As I mentioned, I've only been back a few days after an almost 10 year hiatus from the game, so not familiar with Mining vessels being "tanks". New concept to me.
I'll also look up what a "Skiff" is, as I don't know that either.
Thanks at least to the couple of you who took the effort and maturity to prompt me to try and figure out how to get past this in a sensible way. That's appreciated.
I'm always grateful for reasoned and considerate advice when it comes.
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Saeger1737
Bite the pillow
1669
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Posted - 2016.08.18 16:18:53 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
Run your mouth some more and you'll be griefed again soon.
MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
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Posted - 2016.08.18 16:29:42 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
Run your mouth some more and you'll be griefed again soon.
Sigh... calm down, dear... |
afk phone
Repo Industries
40
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Posted - 2016.08.18 16:57:21 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Hmm, at least (most) of the last few responses have been reasonable with legitimate suggestions to consider.
(Aside from a couple of silly childish attempts at one line retorts from a couple of little kids).
So I appreciate the suggestions made.
It's possible I could have misremembered the sec as stated and that it was indeed 0.5 rather than 0.8.
That said, though, I would still expect even 0.5 to have much better protection than it appears to.
As I mentioned, I've only been back a few days after an almost 10 year hiatus from the game, so not familiar with Mining vessels being "tanks". New concept to me.
I'll also look up what a "Skiff" is, as I don't know that either.
Thanks at least to the couple of you who took the effort and maturity to prompt me to try and figure out how to get past this in a sensible way. That's appreciated.
I'm always grateful for reasoned and considerate advice when it comes.
"That said, though, I would still expect even 0.5 to have much better protection than it appears to."
CONCORD doesn't provide protection. CONCORD provides consequences. They suicide gank you and CONCORD destroys the ship they are flying. They show up after the gankers have destroyed you ship in most cases. Those that gank miners have a clear understanding of CONCORD response times and how much damage they have to bring to pop you before CONCORD finishes them off.
It's a pretty much just a math problem to the ganker. (like I said, the guy probably has no idea as to the who/what/where/when specifics of ganking you. You're barge was just a math problem that he solved)
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7985
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Posted - 2016.08.18 17:14:42 -
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Hey OP, don't let the griefers gaslight you on this. Your impression and judgment counts most towards what you want to do next.
That the mechanics favor them means there's no dishonor or failure for recognizing a rigged game and moving on. They will also claim they are the ones being nerfed, but they have a CSM and devs on their side.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Zoltan Lazar
258
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Posted - 2016.08.18 17:34:30 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hey OP, don't let the griefers gaslight you on this. Your impression and judgment counts most towards what you want to do next. That the mechanics favor them means there's no dishonor or failure for recognizing a rigged game and moving on. They will also claim they are the ones being nerfed, but they have a CSM and devs on their side.
Gas lighting is when it's false. It's an actual fact (provable via KM) that he was in .5, not .8.
CSM doesn't give a **** about HS, only null. Devs just want HS to be a carebear playground to drive easy subs.
But hey, tell yourself whatever lets you sleep at night. People in a bad enough mental state to go for HS mining don't have the brain cells to try to bother with. |
tainted demon
Danger Gnomes
Vendetta Mercenary Group
32
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Posted - 2016.08.18 17:48:34 -
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I was playing Call of Duty the other day and while on my way to a sniping vantage point i got a shotgun in the face. I had a sniper rifle and "was not prepared" for close quarters combat what so ever, the griefing in that game is so bad because everyone runs about shooting at others.
Sc0rpyon is absolutely correct how dare someone create their own content in a player driven sandbox mmo.
It's not like he can mine in a higher sec space where concord have a faster response time, or there are other ships with better tank he can use for mining in less secure space... oh wait |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
2
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:00:22 -
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tainted demon wrote:I was playing Call of Duty the other day and while on my way to a sniping vantage point i got a shotgun in the face. I had a sniper rifle and "was not prepared" for close quarters combat what so ever, the griefing in that game is so bad because everyone runs about shooting at others.
Sc0rpyon is absolutely correct how dare someone create their own content in a player driven sandbox mmo.
It's not like he can mine in a higher sec space where concord have a faster response time, or there are other ships with better tank he can use for mining in less secure space... oh wait
You play Call of Douchebags.
Suddenly everything becomes clear.
Your opinion is invalid. |
Nitshe Razvedka
1247
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:04:01 -
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Careful OP Gankers have very fragile ego's esp codies. Challenge their philosophy or methods and they meltdown the worst.
They even may send you RL threats in the mail.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7987
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:06:18 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Careful OP Gankers have very fragile ego's esp codies. Challenge their philosophy or methods and they meltdown the worst. They even may send you RL threats in the mail.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
320
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:08:08 -
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Saeger1737 wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
Run your mouth some more and you'll be griefed again soon.
Yeah be carefull or Saeger will give you a very nasty talking too!
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Nitshe Razvedka
1247
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:10:47 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Careful OP Gankers have very fragile ego's esp codies. Challenge their philosophy or methods and they meltdown the worst. They even may send you RL threats in the mail.
Yeah Talk about treading on your dik and embarrassing the ENTIRE ganking community. 
Use wisely Herzog, the link is my gift to the AG community, a wpn of mass destruction.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
2
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:11:55 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Careful OP Gankers have very fragile ego's esp codies. Challenge their philosophy or methods and they meltdown the worst. They even may send you RL threats in the mail.
Lol! Awww, now thats just pitiful.
Please tell me that the Code in Eve are more problematic than the poor excuse for pilots in Elite that use the name?
I know nothing of what they are like over here, but over in Elite Dangerous, they're a bit of a laughing stock.
I think people feel a bit sorry for them over there. |
afk phone
Repo Industries
44
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:20:43 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Careful OP Gankers have very fragile ego's esp codies. Challenge their philosophy or methods and they meltdown the worst. They even may send you RL threats in the mail.
You don't need to be careful. You can always come wh with my corp. Codies don't go to wh. Speak your mind, that's what forums are for. If they hound you for your forum words - that would be griefing. |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
2
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:23:05 -
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afk phone wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Careful OP Gankers have very fragile ego's esp codies. Challenge their philosophy or methods and they meltdown the worst. They even may send you RL threats in the mail. You don't need to be careful. You can always come wh with my corp. Codies don't go to wh. Speak your mind, that's what forums are for. If they hound you for your forum words - that would be griefing.
Sorry, noob question: WH?
I only heard about Providence yesterday! Lol!
Though some things are frustratingly the same, much has changed in the last 10 years! |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
3
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:28:07 -
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With regards to speaking your mind, I often find that the ones who vehemently spit visciousness back at you for daring to complain about something that upset you, are often the ones who are most afraid of change or being found out.
They are often the ones engaging in underhanded or inethical practices who worry that bringing those actions to light will in effect cause the spotlight to shine on it or them and then change may happen.
Evolution of mechanics and practices often find these people to be the first left behind in changed circumstance.
And it terrifies them.
So I can understand why they freak out and lash out when anyone challenges the status quo. |
tainted demon
Danger Gnomes
Vendetta Mercenary Group
32
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:31:40 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:
You play Call of Douchebags.
Suddenly everything becomes clear.
Your opinion is invalid.
I don't really play COD was simply using it as an example to show how dumb your argument is when there is things you could have done to prevent it. like oh i don't know FIT RIGS maybe???
What is clear to me now is common sense is way over your head, so to make it simple for you Sc0rpyon, more tank = less gank
tank means more hit points and resists on your ship
and LESS gank doesn't mean you can never be ganked you are just less likely to be.
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afk phone
Repo Industries
44
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:46:57 -
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wh = worm hole system
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Nitshe Razvedka
1247
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Posted - 2016.08.18 18:54:38 -
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This is a link to the definitive guide to navigate the Crime & Punishment forum. Just thank Noragan latter.
Remember just a guide, not rules.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
3
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:03:36 -
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tainted demon wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:
You play Call of Douchebags.
Suddenly everything becomes clear.
Your opinion is invalid.
I don't really play COD was simply using it as an example to show how dumb your argument is when there is things you could have done to prevent it. like oh i don't know FIT RIGS maybe??? What is clear to me now is common sense is way over your head, so to make it simple for you Sc0rpyon, more tank = less gank tank means more hit points and resists on your ship and LESS gank doesn't mean you can never be ganked you are just less likely to be.
The only thing that is clear from your inane ramblings is the bare-faced arrogance you seem to enjoy throwing about like yesterdays discarded underpants. I can only presume you wouldn't recognise common sense if it stripped naked, painted itself purple and danced the bolero, singing: "Common Sense is here again...!"
Either way you've successfully proved your ineptitude when it comes to adding value to a conversation. Thank you for your unvaluable contribution. It was an important point which needed to be made. But I suggest we leave the rest of this conversation to those members with a brain larger than a grape.
Hmmm. In fact, are you SURE you don't play CoD... the facts imply otherwise... |
Nitshe Razvedka
1247
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:09:21 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:tainted demon wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:
You play Call of Douchebags.
Suddenly everything becomes clear.
Your opinion is invalid.
I don't really play COD was simply using it as an example to show how dumb your argument is when there is things you could have done to prevent it. like oh i don't know FIT RIGS maybe??? What is clear to me now is common sense is way over your head, so to make it simple for you Sc0rpyon, more tank = less gank tank means more hit points and resists on your ship and LESS gank doesn't mean you can never be ganked you are just less likely to be. The only thing that is clear from your inane ramblings is the bare-faced arrogance you seem to enjoy throwing about like yesterdays discarded underpants. I can only presume you wouldn't recognise common sense if it stripped naked, painted itself purple and danced the bolero, singing: "Common Sense is here again...!" Either way you've successfully proved your ineptitude when it comes to adding value to a conversation. Thank you for your unvaluable contribution. It was an important point which needed to be made. But I suggest we leave the rest of this conversation to those members with a brain larger than a grape. Hmmm. In fact, are you SURE you don't play CoD... the facts imply otherwise...
The guide will advise you to be polite to the natives, esp considering Tainted Demon is in the Best merc alliance in HiSec. I am sure Tainted meant to call you inexperienced and not dumb. But you would be wise to read the guide sooner than latter.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
3
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:12:54 -
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All this venom from a simple vent. Seems highly irrational.
I'm happy to ease back, Netflix and chill....
I pride myself on being polite and appreciative to those who offer a kind / sympathetic word or piece of useful advice.
But rudeness and spite only breeds ill repose and ire.
I apologise to anyone I may have offended, assuming they do the same in return. |
Paranoid Loyd
9437
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:42:09 -
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It's fairly obvious you are new around here, no need for pleasantries or whitty banter, in fact you are only fueling the fire, if that's your thing proceed, but it doesn't seem to be, so if someone says something you don't like or take offence to, just ignore it, again, replying only fuels the fire.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
4
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:51:21 -
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Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff?
:-( |
Nitshe Razvedka
1252
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Posted - 2016.08.18 19:55:18 -
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On its best days a crucible of competing arguments, but mostly a smouldering dumpster.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Paranoid Loyd
9437
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:11:06 -
[37] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff?
:-(
Sure but when you see the same whiny ignorant OP over and over again, it gets old real quick. You set the tone and people are replying in kind. If you had come here asking for advice about how to handle the situation better instead of venting your frustrations, the thread would have been different. But you didn't do that, you chose to vent so people are venting back, trolling and evaluating whether or not you are a good target.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Faylee Freir
Facetious Indifference
Vendetta Mercenary Group
280
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:13:06 -
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Concord is there to provide consequences, not protect. There are ways and methods you can employ to your favor to decrease the probability of you getting ganked. If youre interested in those methods, just ask. Otherwise i feel this is some bait thread that will emd up being locked.
HTFU
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Sasha Nemtsov
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:39:12 -
[39] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:So, I left this game about 10 years back or so (with a brief resurgence about 7 years ago) - mostly because of the sheer amount of pointless griefing that was going on.
Then my mate said I should come back and start playing again. I grudgingly agreed to give it another go and see if the game had improved.
So... 3 days in, I've got my mining barge up and running. All good. I hop on over to a *cough* "safe" space Asteroid belt in 0.8 sec. 0.8 sec.... Not some crappy low sec. 0.8....
All is good for a while until suddenly out of nowhere, I notice warning lights and sirens go off.
Within half a secon, my shields and armour are gone and never enough time to hop back to the station.
Boom.
Shortly after that, the police finally decide to turn up and blow the idiot griefer up.
What for? There was really no point for this idiot to do this other than to just cause someone else problems. The fact that he had a 500,000,000 bounty on him says plenty, I guess.
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better.
Bit of a shame, really.
:-(
I'm sorry for your loss, Sc0rpyon.
This seems like a good time for you to invest in a Mining Permit. They're only 10m Isk and valid for one year. Reach out to me in-game and we'll set you up.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
Rabble Alliance
3021
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:50:48 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Hmm, at least (most) of the last few responses have been reasonable with legitimate suggestions to consider.
(Aside from a couple of silly childish attempts at one line retorts from a couple of little kids).
Quoted for Irony
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
4
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Posted - 2016.08.18 20:52:45 -
[41] - Quote
Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:So, I left this game about 10 years back or so (with a brief resurgence about 7 years ago) - mostly because of the sheer amount of pointless griefing that was going on.
Then my mate said I should come back and start playing again. I grudgingly agreed to give it another go and see if the game had improved.
So... 3 days in, I've got my mining barge up and running. All good. I hop on over to a *cough* "safe" space Asteroid belt in 0.8 sec. 0.8 sec.... Not some crappy low sec. 0.8....
All is good for a while until suddenly out of nowhere, I notice warning lights and sirens go off.
Within half a secon, my shields and armour are gone and never enough time to hop back to the station.
Boom.
Shortly after that, the police finally decide to turn up and blow the idiot griefer up.
What for? There was really no point for this idiot to do this other than to just cause someone else problems. The fact that he had a 500,000,000 bounty on him says plenty, I guess.
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better.
Bit of a shame, really.
:-(
I'm sorry for your loss, Sc0rpyon. This seems like a good time for you to invest in a Mining Permit. They're only 10m Isk and valid for one year. Reach out to me in-game and we'll set you up.
Thanks.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
4
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Posted - 2016.08.18 21:01:12 -
[42] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Hmm, at least (most) of the last few responses have been reasonable with legitimate suggestions to consider.
(Aside from a couple of silly childish attempts at one line retorts from a couple of little kids).
Sc0rpyon wrote:You play Call of Douchebags.
Suddenly everything becomes clear.
Your opinion is invalid.
Just going to leave these here
And now we're on to cherry-picking, like a feminist.
How wonderful! :-)
Can we all join in?
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
326
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Posted - 2016.08.18 21:17:22 -
[43] - Quote
Without gankers, hisec mining and hauling would be seriously, mind-numbingly boring, even more so than it already is.
That guy and this saved you an expensive lesson with a freighter.
Or you're related to certain gankers and are laughing maniacally in comms with every new page.
A signature :o
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Sere O'Asis
Summer Evenings and Autumn Skies
107
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Posted - 2016.08.18 22:03:02 -
[44] - Quote
Faylee Freir wrote:Concord is there to provide consequences, not protect.
This is pertinent. I wish I could have a banner proclaiming this upon the exit gate of every starter system in EVE; cause there'd be a lot less frustration on all our parts, if new player/returning players understood the realities of the game.
Concord punishes. It does not protect. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
17511
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Posted - 2016.08.18 22:46:52 -
[45] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff?
:-(
Looks like you just picked the wrong spot to vent.
A quick forum orientation is in order i feel.
New citizens Questions and answers : Vets being suspiciously nice to newbies, if there were candy involved the fbi would storm the place (go here for troll free general advice)
General discussion : Here be trolls, its grand once you catch the beat and flow of it
Warefare and tactics : Faction warefare smacktalk
Ships and modules : I has ship, halp!
Crime & punishment : the place to talk yourself/someone onto/off the shitlist ... Or just pay mercenaries.
Player features and ideas discussion : Where sense goes to die
Out of pod experiance : Here be solvent abusers, they giggle a lot and touch your face...
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
Rabble Alliance
3021
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Posted - 2016.08.18 23:02:48 -
[46] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff?
:-( Looks like you just picked the wrong spot to vent. A quick forum orientation is in order i feel. New citizens Questions and answers : Vets being suspiciously nice to newbies, if there were candy involved the fbi would storm the place (go here for troll free general advice) General discussion : Here be trolls, its grand once you catch the beat and flow of it Warefare and tactics : Faction warefare smacktalk Ships and modules : I has ship, halp! Crime & punishment : the place to talk yourself/someone onto/off the shitlist ... Or just pay mercenaries. Player features and ideas discussion : Where sense goes to die Out of pod experiance : Here be solvent abusers, they giggle a lot and touch your face...
Also C&P is where ISD send threads to be trolled apparently
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Nitshe Razvedka
1254
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Posted - 2016.08.18 23:03:56 -
[47] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Hmm, at least (most) of the last few responses have been reasonable with legitimate suggestions to consider.
(Aside from a couple of silly childish attempts at one line retorts from a couple of little kids).
Sc0rpyon wrote:You play Call of Douchebags.
Suddenly everything becomes clear.
Your opinion is invalid.
Just going to leave these here And now we're on to cherry-picking, like a feminist. How wonderful! :-) Can we all join in?
I said thank Noragan for the guide, not call him a feminist. And don't thank the Codie for the licence, just say 'bash it up your asss'.
Got it. 
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Lawrence Lawton
The Conference Elite
CODE.
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 02:48:49 -
[48] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
Run your mouth some more and you'll be griefed again soon. Sigh... calm down, dear...
Ignorant and condescending. Learn your place, miner. You have just earned yourself a place on the Red Pen List. Your permit costs are now tripled to 30m ISK and you are at increased risk of ganking. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7994
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Posted - 2016.08.19 05:27:55 -
[49] - Quote
Lawrence Lawton wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
Run your mouth some more and you'll be griefed again soon. Sigh... calm down, dear... Ignorant and condescending. Learn your place, miner. You have just earned yourself a place on the Red Pen List. Your permit costs are now tripled to 30m ISK and you are at increased risk of ganking.
We know what you really do with that red pen.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 06:47:00 -
[50] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Doesn't anybody around here just talk about stuff?
:-( Looks like you just picked the wrong spot to vent. A quick forum orientation is in order i feel. New citizens Questions and answers : Vets being suspiciously nice to newbies, if there were candy involved the fbi would storm the place (go here for troll free general advice) General discussion : Here be trolls, its grand once you catch the beat and flow of it Warefare and tactics : Faction warefare smacktalk Ships and modules : I has ship, halp! Crime & punishment : the place to talk yourself/someone onto/off the shitlist ... Or just pay mercenaries. Player features and ideas discussion : Where sense goes to die Out of pod experiance : Here be solvent abusers, they giggle a lot and touch your face...
Hmm, thanks - this is good stuff to know.
Appreciated. |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 06:55:16 -
[51] - Quote
Lawrence Lawton wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Saeger1737 wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
For reference, this could be considered both ganking AND griefing, since the two are in no way exclusive.
Jeez, and I thought Elite players were bad at understanding simple concepts like this...
Run your mouth some more and you'll be griefed again soon. Sigh... calm down, dear... Ignorant and condescending. Learn your place, miner. You have just earned yourself a place on the Red Pen List. Your permit costs are now tripled to 30m ISK and you are at increased risk of ganking.
Lawrence,
Your permit offer intrigues me.
I'm in.
Scorpyon |
Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
397
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Posted - 2016.08.19 08:23:05 -
[52] - Quote
Wow, the salt content from the OP and Nitshe are just overwheming.
Ok, original poster...here is the deal.
I am not even going to bother looking at the killmail because a couple of the posters already commented on it, and I was right in what I was thinking anyways.
Procurer. If you are going to mine, do it in that ship right there. I would suggest you don't mine and go do literally anything else but some people are just lazy like that.
Also, do not walk away from your keyboard if you are mining. We call that 'afk mining'. And those who gank KNOW when you are not at your keyboard, and that is part of the reason why they do it.
As for griefing, what you experienced is what we call 'content creation'. Ganking is a valid form of expression in this game, creating content for those who think Eve Online is a single player PvE game...which is isn't. Eve Online is a PvP game where everyone can shoot at anyone else...but in certain areas there are consequences. CONCORD will retaliate and kill the offender (if you are not at war with him) but there is NO protection.
If you want to protect yourself, I refer you to a post of mine in another thread that explains how to keep yourself safe while mining. The post refers to wardecs but watching for gankers have the same rules.
If you choose not to follow these rules and do what you have been doing, they WILL do it again.
Good luck to you, miner.
This would cure me of the fear...
CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 08:39:31 -
[53] - Quote
I don't even "like" mining.
But that's what the storygiver dude wanted.
I blame him...  |
StonerPhReaK
AFK Inc.
448
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Posted - 2016.08.19 10:19:05 -
[54] - Quote
Before you leave this time. And it will probably be for good. Can we have your stuff? If its mining equipment reprocess it and send over the minerals to Nitshe. Shrubbery Noragen will take care of, He's the edward scissor hands of eve. Ralph is a King so anything gold he will surely love. And dont forget to recycle something expensive in Bobs name. May your mining clone be biomass'd in peace. Bobmen. *Motions fingers over face in the form of celtic cross while whispering our saviors blessings. 
Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
5
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Posted - 2016.08.19 10:36:34 -
[55] - Quote
StonerPhReaK wrote:Before you leave this time. And it will probably be for good. Can we have your stuff? If its mining equipment reprocess it and send over the minerals to Nitshe. Shrubbery Noragen will take care of, He's the edward scissor hands of eve. Ralph is a King so anything gold he will surely love. And dont forget to recycle something expensive in Bobs name. May your mining clone be biomass'd in peace. Bobmen. *Motions fingers over face in the form of celtic cross while whispering our saviors blessings.
No, but I welcome any payments for thread-space purchasing via the use of replies and suchlike.
It all helps. Those mining barges ain't cheap, you know!
Please send the ISK via escrow at your nearest convenience to my account. I am happy to take any amount in units of 1 million.
Your custom is most appreciated and we hope you enjoy our thread-sapce rental services.
o7 |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1839
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Posted - 2016.08.19 13:29:34 -
[56] - Quote
Why, hello there, OP.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
6
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Posted - 2016.08.19 13:45:14 -
[57] - Quote
Mike Adoulin wrote:Why, hello there, OP.
Greetings, random citizen! |
Omar Alharazaad
Nefarious Porpoise
3062
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Posted - 2016.08.19 13:45:18 -
[58] - Quote
Mike Adoulin wrote:Why, hello there, OP.
I'd ask if you were thinking what i'm thinking, but I know for a fact you can't find rubber pants at this time of the night.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
Rabble Alliance
3022
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Posted - 2016.08.19 14:09:29 -
[59] - Quote
Omar Alharazaad wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Why, hello there, OP. I'd ask if you were thinking what i'm thinking, but I know for a fact you can't find rubber pants at this time of the night.
Thats only because you never bothered to hit on the store clerk to get his number
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Estuary Algaert
Petulant Luddite GmbH
0
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Posted - 2016.08.19 15:13:12 -
[60] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Mike Adoulin wrote:Why, hello there, OP. I'd ask if you were thinking what i'm thinking, but I know for a fact you can't find rubber pants at this time of the night. Thats only because you never bothered to hit on the store clerk to get his number
It is always night time in space |
Nitshe Razvedka
1263
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Posted - 2016.08.19 16:12:24 -
[61] - Quote
Morgan Agrivar wrote:Wow, the salt content from "Nitshe" just overwheming.
.
You are starting to sound like Dom. Where did the AG touch you codie?
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8001
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Posted - 2016.08.19 16:41:50 -
[62] - Quote
Remember, gankers always project. Always.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Nitshe Razvedka
1263
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Posted - 2016.08.19 16:55:19 -
[63] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Remember, gankers always project. Always.
I was going to call Morgan out for crossdressing, but I really like Eddie Izzard.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Solecist Project
32224
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:10:20 -
[64] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Remember, gankers always project. Always.
*snickers* xD
That's funny. ^_^
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
575
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:17:52 -
[65] - Quote
Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game.
It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content
But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go 
P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
Gł+Nitshe's favorite
Gł+Bane of Holeysaltmountain
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Paranoid Loyd
9441
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:29:22 -
[66] - Quote
I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
Rabble Alliance
3022
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:43:58 -
[67] - Quote
Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage.
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King-Griffin
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Nitshe Razvedka
1263
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Posted - 2016.08.19 17:45:09 -
[68] - Quote
Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage.
Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8005
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:18:26 -
[69] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game. It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter
You love his banter and would be lost without it.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Paranoid Loyd
9443
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:20:53 -
[70] - Quote
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage. Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing.
If it's obviously true and nothing new or interesting why do I have to constantly explain what the game is to ignorant people?
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
575
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:21:01 -
[71] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game. It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter You love his banter and would be lost without it.
I feed on intellectual conversation that I can sanely contribute to.
Those don't ever involve white knights of your nature
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
Gł+Nitshe's favorite
Gł+Bane of Holeysaltmountain
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
7
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:33:17 -
[72] - Quote
Paranoid Loyd wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage. Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing. If it's obviously true and nothing new or interesting why do I have to constantly explain what the game is to ignorant people?
Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately.
You're a good example. |
Paranoid Loyd
9443
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:37:18 -
[73] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage. Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing. If it's obviously true and nothing new or interesting why do I have to constantly explain what the game is to ignorant people? Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. You're a good example.
That's a cute relpy, however I'm not the one who said it is a truism. It's obviously not if you posted your OP right?
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
8
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:38:31 -
[74] - Quote
Paranoid Loyd wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:I'll just leave this here, it is the current homepage. Another truism from Loyd. Well said young man, go you good thing. If it's obviously true and nothing new or interesting why do I have to constantly explain what the game is to ignorant people? Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. You're a good example. That's a cute relpy, however I'm not the one who said it is a truism. It's obviously not if you posted your OP right?
I was paying you a compliment, but as you like... |
Paranoid Loyd
9443
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:39:24 -
[75] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:I was paying you a compliment, but as you like...
I'm used to people just copying and pasting things they don't understand, I made an assumption I shouldn't have. I'm not familiar with what you mentioned. Forgive me, maybe you can elaborate.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
8
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Posted - 2016.08.19 18:44:24 -
[76] - Quote
Paranoid Loyd wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:I was paying you a compliment, but as you like... Forgive me, maybe you can elaborate.
The Dunning-Krueger effect is where an individual finds a task or an ability easy and therefore assumes that in the same way others should also find this the case. However, they don't which can seem odd to the first individual.
In this respect, there are likely things that you (and others) find simple or straight forward that others don't.
And vice versa, of course.
It doesn't mean one (or the other) is more or less competent, but simply that their brain hardwiring is such that some things come naturally and some require more effort to accomplish. And all are different in their varying levels of this efficiency.
I was commenting that its good (for you) that you find these things easy / straight forward. That's to your benefit. |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
9
|
Posted - 2016.08.19 18:49:40 -
[77] - Quote
Paranoid Loyd wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:I was paying you a compliment, but as you like... I'm used to people just copying and pasting things they don't understand, I made an assumption I shouldn't have. I'm not familiar with what you mentioned. Forgive me, maybe you can elaborate.
Perfectly alright. :-)
The DK effect is something I have studied in depth.
I have a similar thing when it comes to natural musical talent - I have the ability to play any instrument at will, so when others struggle it's hard to work out why. And yet I suck at Art where others find drawing and painting easy. :-) |
Nitshe Razvedka
1264
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Posted - 2016.08.19 19:00:54 -
[78] - Quote
Pearls. (an I ration the big smiles)
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Solecist Project
32231
|
Posted - 2016.08.19 20:06:48 -
[79] - Quote
Quote:Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately.
Wooooooow, fancy!
*picks nose*
*snips crap around the room*
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
9
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Posted - 2016.08.19 20:55:59 -
[80] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Quote:Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. Wooooooow, fancy! *picks nose*
*snips crap around the room*It's weird because I'm kind of understanding this differently ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DunningGĒōKruger_effectQuote:The DunningGĒōKruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. I'll translate. Low ability indIviduals (puke) suffer from IAMAWESOME, because they're literally too dumb to know they're dumb. They're so dumb, they're incapable of reflecting on it and it would take serious effort, having him follow a logical train of thought all the way through to the part(s) he doesn't consider he's missing. Logic is funny, because logic is always logical. Logic has no consideration for good or bad, it simply always works with the information at hand. As long as every information gathered fits to the rest logically, no matter how stupid the conclusion might be, it's still logical. The DKEffect is, in simple terms, lack of awareness of the missing parts. Or even simpler: Ignorance about one's own ignorance. A serious mental issue in my world, but vOv. In any case, what you describe as DK is not DK at all. You *were* insulting him.
No... just no. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
8006
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Posted - 2016.08.19 21:49:51 -
[81] - Quote
Dom Arkaral wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game. It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter You love his banter and would be lost without it. I feed on intellectual conversation that I can sanely contribute to. Those don't ever involve white knights of your nature
Where it not for white knights running things you would not be the person you are today.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
400
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Posted - 2016.08.19 22:03:54 -
[82] - Quote
I am a CODE supporter since they bring excitement and a sense of paranoia to these poor industrialist who would otherwise be asleep at their desk while their Mackinaws lazily pewpew asteroids. There is nothing wrong with that, sir.
But I can assure you, AG has done nothing to me since they are still considered unorganized in my book. The game mechanics have always leaned towards the ganker but has been slowly pushed towards the carebears. Have I ganked freighters? Oh yes I have.
One day while in Gallente FW, loyalnon asked my corp if we wanted to go gank freighters. Never done it before, I wanted to see what it was like so I went with another pilot. It was an awesome experience and loyalnon knew what he was doing as he directed us from target to target. While waiting out the timer, some people started trashtalking in local on how they were repping one of the freighters that was being bumped. Loyalnon was not wanting to actually target that particular freighter but decided to go after it anyways.
The bumper told us that three scythes were repping it as they were trying to counter bump his Machariel away. We land on grid and completely facemelted the freighter, even with 9 reppers on it. So yes, I was there when AG was born because I believe that day was the day they decided to form up and actually fight the gankers back. Yes, they have had some success against freighter gankers but completely fail when it comes to the 'little guys' like the OP who are out there mining afk. They don't even need one of the CODE permits, all they need is awareness and they will be fine.
But if they want to afk mine in peace, highsec is not the place to do it.
This would cure me of the fear...
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Solecist Project
32241
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Posted - 2016.08.19 22:31:58 -
[83] - Quote
"Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately."
This part is fine. They're clueless about being clueless. (and will argue against it when pointed out)
They lack awareness about the fact that they could lack awareness about some facts.
Oh god i love these wordgames! :D
According to your own post, Mr. Loyd here is a great example of being inept (like: incapable) of recognizing his own ineptitude due to his low ability.
"The DunningGĒōKruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately."
Sc0rpyon wrote:No... just no.
Fine with me!
Go and change the article on wikipedia and get away with it.
"That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breaths of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly pulverised by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds." -- Tippia
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
11
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Posted - 2016.08.19 22:47:51 -
[84] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:"Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately." This part is fine. They're clueless about being clueless. (and will argue against it when pointed out) They lack awareness about the fact that they could lack awareness about some facts. Oh god i love these wordgames! :D According to your own post, Mr. Loyd here is a great example of being inept (like: incapable) of recognizing his own ineptitude due to his low ability. "The DunningGĒōKruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately." Sc0rpyon wrote:No... just no. Fine with me! Go and change the article on wikipedia and get away with it.
You're citing... Wikipedia... as a source...?
Hang on - let me find that Onion article I read the other day. It's probably right up your street. |
Elyham
Gordon Gekko Trading Academy
Peaceful Industrialists
46
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Posted - 2016.08.19 23:20:43 -
[85] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:No..... griefing is committing an act for the sole purpose of causing grief.
Ganking is simply attacking someone who wasn't prepared for it.
Maybe you should learn your stuff..
How can you be unprepared for an attack? You undocked which was your consent to engage and be engaged.
Also there is no griefing in this game, cmon. I run a highly successful Mining Buddy Program so this is clearly in my area of expertise.
May your roids contain great wealth and treasure...
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Director, Mining Buddy Program |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
11
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Posted - 2016.08.19 23:30:12 -
[86] - Quote
Elyham wrote:
How can you be unprepared for an attack? You [left your house], which was your consent to be [attacked]...
Why does this sound so familiar....
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
Rabble Alliance
3025
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Posted - 2016.08.19 23:34:40 -
[87] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:Elyham wrote:
How can you be unprepared for an attack? You [left your house], which was your consent to be [attacked]...
Why does this sound so familiar....
And now we have officially blurred the line between game and real life. I give it a page or 2 until lock. Anybody wanna start a betting pool?
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Nitshe Razvedka
1270
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Posted - 2016.08.20 04:06:51 -
[88] - Quote
Morgan Agrivar wrote:I am a CODE supporter since they bring excitement and a sense of paranoia to these poor industrialist who would otherwise be asleep at their desk while their Mackinaws lazily pewpew asteroids. There is nothing wrong with that, sir. But I can assure you, AG has done nothing to me since they are still considered unorganized in my book. The game mechanics have always leaned towards the ganker but has been slowly pushed towards the carebears. Have I ganked freighters? Oh yes I have. One day while in Gallente FW, loyalnon asked my corp if we wanted to go gank freighters. Never done it before, I wanted to see what it was like so I went with another pilot. It was an awesome experience and loyalnon knew what he was doing as he directed us from target to target. While waiting out the timer, some people started trashtalking in local on how they were repping one of the freighters that was being bumped. Loyalnon was not wanting to actually target that particular freighter but decided to go after it anyways. The bumper told us that three scythes were repping it as they were trying to counter bump his Machariel away. We land on grid and completely facemelted the freighter, even with 9 reppers on it. So yes, I was there when AG was born because I believe that day was the day they decided to form up and actually fight the gankers back. Yes, they have had some success against freighter gankers but completely fail when it comes to the 'little guys' like the OP who are out there mining afk. They don't even need one of the CODE permits, all they need is awareness and they will be fine. But if they want to afk mine in peace, highsec is not the place to do it. P.S. In regards to that KM, it was a battle Venture fleet we threw together. You could have asked first before posting a KM that doesn't support your point.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1270
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Posted - 2016.08.20 04:44:00 -
[89] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Quote:Because Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. Wooooooow, fancy! *picks nose*
*snips crap around the room*It's weird because I'm kind of understanding this differently ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DunningGĒōKruger_effectQuote:The DunningGĒōKruger effect is a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of those of low ability to recognize their ineptitude and evaluate their ability accurately. I'll translate. Low ability indIviduals (puke) suffer from IAMAWESOME, because they're literally too dumb to know they're dumb. They're so dumb, they're incapable of reflecting on it and it would take serious effort, having him follow a logical train of thought all the way through to the part(s) he doesn't consider he's missing. Logic is funny, because logic is always logical. Logic has no consideration for good or bad, it simply always works with the information at hand. As long as every information gathered fits to the rest logically, no matter how stupid the conclusion might be, it's still logical. The DKEffect is, in simple terms, lack of awareness of the missing parts. Or even simpler: Ignorance about one's own ignorance. A serious mental issue in my world, but vOv. In any case, what you describe as DK is not DK at all. You *were* insulting him.
The only person really insulting Paranoid is you Sol, because you just don't get it. There are levels.
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
401
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Posted - 2016.08.20 05:32:03 -
[90] - Quote
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote:I am a CODE supporter since they bring excitement and a sense of paranoia to these poor industrialist who would otherwise be asleep at their desk while their Mackinaws lazily pewpew asteroids. There is nothing wrong with that, sir. But I can assure you, AG has done nothing to me since they are still considered unorganized in my book. The game mechanics have always leaned towards the ganker but has been slowly pushed towards the carebears. Have I ganked freighters? Oh yes I have. One day while in Gallente FW, loyalnon asked my corp if we wanted to go gank freighters. Never done it before, I wanted to see what it was like so I went with another pilot. It was an awesome experience and loyalnon knew what he was doing as he directed us from target to target. While waiting out the timer, some people started trashtalking in local on how they were repping one of the freighters that was being bumped. Loyalnon was not wanting to actually target that particular freighter but decided to go after it anyways. The bumper told us that three scythes were repping it as they were trying to counter bump his Machariel away. We land on grid and completely facemelted the freighter, even with 9 reppers on it. So yes, I was there when AG was born because I believe that day was the day they decided to form up and actually fight the gankers back. Yes, they have had some success against freighter gankers but completely fail when it comes to the 'little guys' like the OP who are out there mining afk. They don't even need one of the CODE permits, all they need is awareness and they will be fine. But if they want to afk mine in peace, highsec is not the place to do it. P.S. In regards to that KM, it was a battle Venture fleet we threw together. You could have asked first before posting a KM that doesn't support your point. You are starting to sound like Pedro. (TLDNR), Too long Did Not Read. Ironic how I wasted long hand on its acronym in brackets  Only joking, I did read it. By your standard, you sound extremely salty.
And this response is how you got your status as a forum troll. 2/10.
Try harder, Nitshe. I know you can do it. I believe in you.
This would cure me of the fear...
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Nitshe Razvedka
1271
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Posted - 2016.08.20 07:38:08 -
[91] - Quote
Some people don't like eating their own rhetoric, so why give it to us? ( on topic, 'griefing')
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 07:59:13 -
[92] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Elyham wrote:
How can you be unprepared for an attack? You [left your house], which was your consent to be [attacked]...
Why does this sound so familiar.... And now we have officially blurred the line between game and real life. I give it a page or 2 until lock. Anybody wanna start a betting pool?
You're talking about a game which is actively encouraged to affect real life money, health, personal property and emotional wellbeing. And this somehow surprises you...?
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Nitshe Razvedka
1271
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Posted - 2016.08.20 08:12:41 -
[93] - Quote
Scorpyon, you had the wood on Loyd n Sol, stay out of the rough on RL themes. Listen to author of your guide here. 
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 08:32:47 -
[94] - Quote
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Scorpyon, you had the wood on Loyd n Sol, stay out of the rough on RL themes. Listen to author of your guide here.
I like the golf analogies :-) |
Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
Rabble Alliance
3027
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Posted - 2016.08.20 08:47:27 -
[95] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Sc0rpyon wrote:Elyham wrote:
How can you be unprepared for an attack? You [left your house], which was your consent to be [attacked]...
Why does this sound so familiar.... And now we have officially blurred the line between game and real life. I give it a page or 2 until lock. Anybody wanna start a betting pool? You're talking about a game which is actively encouraged to affect real life money, health, personal property and emotional wellbeing. And this somehow surprises you...?
No matter how much isk I make it wont affect my real life money. No matter how many times I'm podded or take booster drugs my real life health is unaffected. No matter how many scams I fall prey to in jita they won't get my car. And finally no matter how many times I fail in this game will it cease being just a game. The day any of this changes for you quit immediately.
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ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 09:29:07 -
[96] - Quote
Sure I get what you're saying there, but I'm referring to the many documented cases where this game has affected people in their real lives and not only that, has been seemingly encouraged in the process. It is a shame to see a game have this effect on the real world in the way it does, but I suppose it is what it is.
And I think that in itself ties in with the very concept of griefing as an action. You invest real world time and money into this gane, so essentially you place a real world value on everythibg you do, whether consciously or not. And thats any sort of seemingly pointless loss can be upsetting to the one who loses it.
And therein lies the inefficacy. You are powerless to effect change to your circumstance.
Its a conundrum, for sure. |
Elite Harvester
Elite Harvesters
64
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Posted - 2016.08.20 09:29:46 -
[97] - Quote
It's not griefing, just business. The business of saving Highsec.
Maybe you should buy a mining permit for 10,000,000 ISK.
Visit www.MinerBumping.com to find out how you can help save Highsec.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 09:54:29 -
[98] - Quote
Elite Harvester wrote:It's not griefing, just business. The business of saving Highsec. Maybe you should buy a mining permit for 10,000,000 ISK.
A mining permit you say?
Intriguing.
I'm in...!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
Rabble Alliance
3027
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Posted - 2016.08.20 10:46:20 -
[99] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:Sure I get what you're saying there, but I'm referring to the many documented cases where this game has affected people in their real lives and not only that, has been seemingly encouraged in the process. It is a shame to see a game have this effect on the real world in the way it does, but I suppose it is what it is.
And I think that in itself ties in with the very concept of griefing as an action. You invest real world time and money into this gane, so essentially you place a real world value on everythibg you do, whether consciously or not. And thats any sort of seemingly pointless loss can be upsetting to the one who loses it.
And therein lies the inefficacy. You are powerless to effect change to your circumstance.
Its a conundrum, for sure.
if you personally feel this way about this or any other MMO game quit. I can't be more clear than this. It's a game you play for fun much like monopoly or tag. When the game stops being fun because it means that much to you its time to stop playing. ESPECIALLY a game where blowing up your opponents things is kinda one of the goals
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1840
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Posted - 2016.08.20 11:10:37 -
[100] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:if you personally feel this way about this or any other MMO game quit. I can't be more clear than this. It's a game you play for fun much like monopoly or tag. When the game stops being fun because it means that much to you its time to stop playing. ESPECIALLY a game where blowing up your opponents things is kinda one of the goals
I always wonder what happens when somebody from The Loser Generation goes to Reno or Vegas and happens to lose all their money. I wonder if they actually try and have the casino's shut down for 'theft' and 'harassment'.
That would make a truly hilarious TV show, I think.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12856
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Posted - 2016.08.20 11:16:23 -
[101] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:So, I left this game about 10 years back or so ...
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better.
Bit of a shame, really.
:-(
Neither has the type of non-committal, milquetoast, part-time player group it occasionally attracts improved either
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2820
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Posted - 2016.08.20 11:54:11 -
[102] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:So, I left this game about 10 years back or so (with a brief resurgence about 7 years ago) - mostly because of the sheer amount of pointless griefing that was going on.
Then my mate said I should come back and start playing again. I grudgingly agreed to give it another go and see if the game had improved.
So... 3 days in, I've got my mining barge up and running. All good. I hop on over to a *cough* "safe" space Asteroid belt in 0.8 sec. 0.8 sec.... Not some crappy low sec. 0.8....
All is good for a while until suddenly out of nowhere, I notice warning lights and sirens go off.
Within half a secon, my shields and armour are gone and never enough time to hop back to the station.
Boom.
Shortly after that, the police finally decide to turn up and blow the idiot griefer up.
What for? There was really no point for this idiot to do this other than to just cause someone else problems. The fact that he had a 500,000,000 bounty on him says plenty, I guess.
Yep. Turns out Eve hasn't got any better.
Bit of a shame, really.
:-(
You lost one Retriever in a 0.5 System and all your other losses happened in Low Sec. And then you whine at the forums about grieving. Seriously, dude?
Please tell us more about how that loss in High Sec did hurt your delicate feelings.
Let me say it this way.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1277
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Posted - 2016.08.20 12:36:37 -
[103] - Quote
Mike Adoulin wrote:
I always wonder what happens when somebody from The Loser Generation goes to Reno or Vegas and happens to lose all their money. I wonder if they actually try and have the casino's shut down for 'theft' and 'harassment'.
That would make a truly hilarious TV show, I think.
Tell us Mike, what did the casino management say to you when you asked them?
Did Lemmiwinks get out on your road-trip to vegas?
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NotTheSmartestCookie
New Order Logistics
CODE.
170
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Posted - 2016.08.20 12:47:40 -
[104] - Quote
Casino management reactions varied, but centered around:
- www.minerbumping.com, I love that site
- You like to take advantage of stupid people who keep making the same mistakes? What a coincidence, so do we.
- Those CONCORD dudes sound hard-core, can't you just buy them off like we did with senator Reid?
Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.
Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3.
Proud shareholder in Halaima MinerBumping
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Nitshe Razvedka
1277
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Posted - 2016.08.20 13:03:18 -
[105] - Quote
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You lost one Retriever in a 0.5 System and all your other losses happened in Low Sec. And then you whine at the forums about grieving. Seriously, dude? Please tell us more about how that loss in High Sec did hurt your delicate feelings.
Says the Minecraft legend who looses a tanked Hulk to Blood Raiders???!!!!
Still see you have the Codie tramp stamp in your bio Jack. Nothin original to place up top??!!
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Nitshe Razvedka
1277
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Posted - 2016.08.20 13:24:22 -
[106] - Quote
Now Bumble would never call me milquetoast, nor I him. Common ground.
In regards to his bio, I still think its satire.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 13:35:49 -
[107] - Quote
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You lost one Retriever in a 0.5 System and all your other losses happened in Low Sec. And then you whine at the forums about grieving. Seriously, dude? Please tell us more about how that loss in High Sec did hurt your delicate feelings. Says the Minecraft legend who looses a tanked Hulk to Blood Raiders???!!!! ( cpu loose power?) Still see you have the Codie tramp stamp in your bio Jack. Nothin original to place up top??!! (Still on topic, griefing codies)
*milksnort* hehehehehe
Just going to leave this here:
http://www.chelwest.nhs.uk/services/surgery/burns-service |
Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2820
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Posted - 2016.08.20 15:44:15 -
[108] - Quote
Sc0rpyon wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:You lost one Retriever in a 0.5 System and all your other losses happened in Low Sec. And then you whine at the forums about grieving. Seriously, dude? Please tell us more about how that loss in High Sec did hurt your delicate feelings. Says the Minecraft legend who looses a tanked Hulk to Blood Raiders???!!!! ( cpu loose power?) Still see you have the Codie tramp stamp in your bio Jack. Nothin original to place up top??!! (Still on topic, griefing codies) *milksnort* hehehehehe Just going to leave this here: http://www.chelwest.nhs.uk/services/surgery/burns-service
Loss reason: Drunk Eve, best EVE. (Maybe I should play less hammered more often)
So what? Did i come to the forums and whine about it like a spoiled prat? No and that's the difference between you and me, but obviously morons like you and Natshe don't even get that.
Today I lost a freighter with ~230M Isk load to a gate camper in Niarja and guess what, I still don't give a **** about it.
Game was working as intended, and I give a heartfelt GF to that guy.
OTOH Dude, you're just a whiny entitled prat bitching and moaning about a guy who crushed you sandcastle. I pitty you, seriously, I pitty you and that clown Natshe also.
Let me say it this way.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1277
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Posted - 2016.08.20 16:37:20 -
[109] - Quote
Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 16:41:39 -
[110] - Quote
Careful, he might accuse us of griefing.
Oh wait....
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Dom Arkaral
Bite the pillow
577
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Posted - 2016.08.20 16:53:56 -
[111] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Afaik your definition of "griefing" is the definition of "content creation" to a lot of folks in game. It's a sandbox about spaceships blowing each other up for the lol, and we'll. .. CCP likes player-made content But hey, you're allowed to be that little butterfly who thinks the game shouldn't have any risk wherever you go P.s. Inb4 Nitshie starts with more banter You love his banter and would be lost without it. I feed on intellectual conversation that I can sanely contribute to. Those don't ever involve white knights of your nature Where it not for white knights running things you would not be the person you are today.
lol white knights need me around to survive,
you'd all be sooooooooooooooooooo lost if I weren't there XD
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12858
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Posted - 2016.08.20 17:34:45 -
[112] - Quote
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Now Bumble would never call me milquetoast, nor I him. Common ground. In regards to his bio, I still think its satire.
It's "in", or at least it seemed to be a while back
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Jagd Wilde
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
15
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Posted - 2016.08.20 19:09:19 -
[113] - Quote
this has got to be an ag fluff piece, it's that full of fail.
OP, why are you High Sec mining in a PVP game?
And no, I don't for one second believe that High Sec miners do anything meaningful in this game other than provide tears after losing incorrectly flown ships. Play EVE correctly and you won't be so salty.
or go back to ED? where all you have to do is play in offline mode, completely safe, like a carebear should be. |
Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
14
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Posted - 2016.08.20 19:35:28 -
[114] - Quote
Jagd Wilde wrote:this has got to be an ag fluff piece, it's that full of fail. OP, why are you High Sec mining in a PVP game? And no, I don't for one second believe that High Sec miners do anything meaningful in this game other than provide tears after losing incorrectly flown ships. Play EVE correctly and you won't be so salty. or go back to ED? where all you have to do is play in offline mode, completely safe, like a carebear should be.
That was an important point, sir, and One that needed to be made.
Well done.
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Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2823
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Posted - 2016.08.20 19:45:22 -
[115] - Quote
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
It was Nithse, definitely.
Nithse, maybe i should become a ganker too.
I think that must be some serious fun, given all the salt and the tears, that other little brat is delievering.
What do ya think Nithse, should i apply to join CODE?
Let me say it this way.
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Sc0rpyon
Chaos Storm
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
It was Nithse, definitely. Nithse, maybe i should become a ganker too. I think that must be some serious fun, given all the salt and the tears, that other little brat is delievering. What do ya think Nithse, should i apply to join CODE?
Hey kid. A word of advice about begging for work. It helps if you spell the guy's name right.
Twice.
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Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2823
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Posted - 2016.08.20 21:38:28 -
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Sc0rpyon wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
It was Nithse, definitely. Nithse, maybe i should become a ganker too. I think that must be some serious fun, given all the salt and the tears, that other little brat is delievering. What do ya think Nithse, should i apply to join CODE? Hey kid. A word of advice about begging for work. It helps if you spell the guy's name right. Twice. Lol.
Nitshe, Natshe, Nisthe, Nitshe, AG wannabe, it's all spelled the same way.
Let me say it this way.
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Lugia3
Tri-gun
Psychotic Tendencies.
1510
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Posted - 2016.08.20 21:56:32 -
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5/7 thread what a ride. This thread does it all. Op tears, anti-ganker tears, ganker tears, legendary shutdowns.
And by far the best part is how op keeps calling people kids.
"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1842
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Posted - 2016.08.20 22:21:04 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Tell us Mike, what did the casino management say to you when you asked them? Did Lemmiwinks get out on your road-trip to vegas?
The manager told me they banned you for life and that you cried like a French schoolgirl.
Why?
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Morgan Agrivar
TriStar Market Solutions
405
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Posted - 2016.08.20 23:19:00 -
[120] - Quote
#inB4eventuallockofthread
This would cure me of the fear...
CCP Explorer liked you forum post. Now my life is complete...
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NotTheSmartestCookie
New Order Logistics
CODE.
181
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Posted - 2016.08.20 23:47:40 -
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So having arrived at page seven of this thread we can conclude that all well-thinking EVE players hope that miners would grow up and be a little more civil. And that the noble citizens of C&P are always willing to bring additional game play opportunities to even the most-unengaged miner. Thanks all for the great effort.
Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.
Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3.
Proud shareholder in Halaima MinerBumping
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Nitshe Razvedka
1278
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Posted - 2016.08.21 03:57:21 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Tell us Mike, what did the casino management say to you when you asked them? Did Lemmiwinks get out on your road-trip to vegas? The manager told me they banned you for life and that you cried like a French schoolgirl. Why?
You can tell good Nitshe about your weekend Cosplay thing, I won't tell many promise. Do you dress Lemmiwinks up too?
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1278
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Posted - 2016.08.21 04:05:20 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
It was Nithse, definitely. Nithse, maybe i should become a ganker too. I think that must be some serious fun, given all the salt and the tears, that other little brat is delievering. What do ya think Nithse, should i apply to join CODE?
Considering: your skill on the KB, your current IQ, drinking issues, current tramp stamp, susceptibility to cult conditioning...
Jack you more than qualify, they will make you their new poster-girl.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2824
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Posted - 2016.08.21 04:34:44 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Jacqueline, what was the trigger word precious?
It was Nithse, definitely. Nithse, maybe i should become a ganker too. I think that must be some serious fun, given all the salt and the tears, that other little brat is delievering. What do ya think Nithse, should i apply to join CODE? Considering: your skill on the KB, your current IQ, drinking issues, current tramp stamp, susceptibility to cult conditioning... Jack you more than qualify, they will make you their new poster-girl.
I don't have drinking issues, i'm bavarian.
Nisthe, there are people - including me - who do not give a flying fart about a Killboard.
But if it helps you to rub your tiny e-wiener, go on, mate, pound your chest and tell the world what an amazing POCO killer you are.
Btw, what does your therapist think about your unhealthy addiction to killboards?
Let me say it this way.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1278
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Posted - 2016.08.21 06:57:36 -
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The codie tears, people will be working the salt mines for years.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Jacques d'Orleans
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
2826
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Posted - 2016.08.21 12:03:51 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:The codie tears, people will be working the Bavarian salt mines for years. Seems you were attached to those poco's as a codie flunky, singing Das Rheingold falsetto now?
Hm, i can't find any CODE tears in here, the only ones crying rivers are you and the OP. 
Tbh, i like your posts, for a guy with delusions of grandeur you're at least fun to read.
Meh, Wagner, specially Rheingold, it's just to depressing, I'm more for music which is pleasant to hear, like Beethovens music was.
Let me say it this way.
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Nitshe Razvedka
1294
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Posted - 2016.08.21 13:03:04 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:The codie tears, people will be working the Bavarian salt mines for years. Seems you were attached to those poco's as a codie flunky, singing Das Rheingold falsetto now? Hm, i can't find any CODE tears in here, the only ones crying rivers are you and the OP. Tbh, i like your posts, for a guy with delusions of grandeur you're at least fun to read. Meh, Wagner, specially Rheingold, it's just to depressing, I'm more for music which is pleasant to hear, like Beethovens music was.
Its true, Holy is a mere shadow when it comes to my delusions of grandeur, and he does have a KB to back up some of his rhetoric.
But Wagner is the greatest! And Ride of the Valkyries was composed in my honour.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
440
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Posted - 2016.08.22 03:20:40 -
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This ones gotten a bit out of control, and very much off topic. Locked.
~ISD Buldath
Commander
Support, Training and Resources Division
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to EVE-Mails regarding forum moderation.
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