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PauZotoh Zhaan
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: PauZotoh Zhaan on 15/03/2007 11:40:39
I thinking getting one of those ships, fully pimped (officer stuff etc).
Now question is which is better for pvp? Vindicator have sweet mwd bonus but navy mega have 1 low slot more (better dmg or tank) when hyperion have 8 guns and uber gr8 bonus for repers. Purpose would be solo pvp (pirating yarr:PPP) so tank is important aswell dmg.
Lets say isk isnt issue what ship would you choose?
If I was minmatar choise would be simple Machariel:)
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Pharos Dei
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:48:00 -
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well if isks dont matter, and you want a nice pirating ship with good gank and nber tank, go vindi...
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smallgreenblur
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:52:00 -
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Factioned out vindi ftw.
sgb
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Chronus26
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:10:00 -
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Hyp is out of the running purly on looks and the fact its not a pimp faction BS.
Personally i'd take the Navy Mega. That's because im Gallente Specced, have Gallente BS 5 and can't fly Minmatar at all. I also like tanks, and that extra low-slot makes for a really nice tank.
I have to say though, the Vindi's cap bonus would be nice to have too.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:12:00 -
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I wanna know vindi or navy mega, hearing mixed things however most seem to say navy mega>vindi...
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JdJinator
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:13:00 -
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I prefer navy meg. 
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:23:00 -
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Navy mega is superior... 8 lows with all iStab&Nano
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Chronus26
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:31:00 -
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 Originally by: LUKEC
Navy mega is superior... 8 lows with all iStab&Nano
Can you say: '(combat) Your Neutron Blaster Cannon II misses *Everything* completely.'?
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Scordite
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Posted - 2007.03.15 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: PauZotoh Zhaan
Vindicator have sweet mwd bonus and an extra mid slot but navy mega have 1 low slot more (better dmg or tank)
Fixed it for you.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.15 13:28:00 -
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so WHY prefer the navy meg over teh vindi? less cpu issues? more tank? can't utilise the extra med well?
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Red Harvest
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Posted - 2007.03.15 13:44:00 -
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I certainly prefer the Vindicator.
Though it has a bit less tank than the navy mega, the extra MWD bonus is pretty nice in combination with a blaster setup, plus the extra med slot lets you fit some nasty EW modules which is always handy for PvP.
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.15 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 15/03/2007 13:44:15
What's the best ship out of a crow, a sniping rokh or an ishtar?
The answer is that it can't be answered without a given situation, only when put into context can you judge what is best.
Same goes with this (though less of a difference). It's impossible to say what's best of the 3 ships in the op without a specific situation. And no, "solo piracy" is far from specific enough.
Pick the ship and configuration that best suits your playstyle.
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Trefnis
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.15 15:00:00 -
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I dont fly gallente ships at all, but just gonna say that most ppl will run without a fight if they see vindi or navy mega, but if they see hype they wont.
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Corwain
Gallente
Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.03.15 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Trefnis
I dont fly gallente ships at all, but just gonna say that most ppl will run without a fight if they see vindi or navy mega, but if they see hype they wont.
First reason I've heard so far to choose Hype...
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 16:04:00 -
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Actually that's different.
Ever since i swapped to nightmare from typhoon, i get more kills, since people go "omg i want to kill that ship".
Navy Mega has serious CPU issues afaik, and most people just end up using that last low-slot for co-pro.
Vindicator or Hyperion.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.15 17:28:00 -
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how does the navy mega have cpu issues and not the vindi, when they both have the same cpu yet the vindi has an extra med slot? (EW=cpu-intensive)
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Chronus26
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.15 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Chronus26 on 15/03/2007 17:32:23
Originally by: Deathbarrage
how does the navy mega have cpu issues and not the vindi, when they both have the same cpu yet the vindi has an extra med slot? (EW=cpu-intensive)
It only has CPU issues when you try to fit T2 Ions, but so does a Standard Mega. Drop to Electrons or upgrade to Neutrons and its fine. Electron DPS isn't as bad as people think, and you can fit the most beastly Faction/deadspace tank ever. 
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PauZotoh Zhaan
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Posted - 2007.03.15 17:47:00 -
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isnt for tanking hyperion better? with 3 rigs and bonus to repers?
I love vindicator and navy mega, but I think hyperion can tank better and have same dmg as vindi/navy am I right?
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.15 18:05:00 -
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for navy mega I'd figure:
7x electron II, heavy TS nos
gist b-type 100mn, dom web, dom dis, TS inj
2x centum LAR, 2x corpum EANM, DCU II, 3x SS MFS
For the vindi I'd figure
7x electron II, TS Nos
gist b-type 100mn, dom web, dom dis, dom scram, TS inj
2x centum LAR, 2x corpum EANM, DCU II, 2x SS MFS
on both fits fit 3x auxillery nano pump
what about that?
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Chronus26
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.15 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage
for navy mega I'd figure:
7x electron II, heavy TS nos
gist b-type 100mn, dom web, dom dis, TS inj
2x centum LAR, 2x corpum EANM, DCU II, 3x SS MFS
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on both fits fit 3x auxillery nano pump
what about that?
Meh not enough tank 
2x Centum LAR, 3x Core X hardners, DCU II, Centum EANM, SS mag Stab.
Hybrid damage rig, Aux Nano, *something else*
^ Navy Mega. Should tank a small fleet 
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Fuglife
STK Scientific
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.15 18:24:00 -
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Take a hyperion, fully insurable and has a serious tank on it. 3 t1 armour ammount rigs and 2 cormack rigs would give you 4600 a cycle. Sold my vindicator as i never used it, hyp ftw
Please note, these are purely my opinions, not those of my next door neighbours cat.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.15 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Chronus26
Originally by: Deathbarrage
for navy mega I'd figure:
7x electron II, heavy TS nos
gist b-type 100mn, dom web, dom dis, TS inj
2x centum LAR, 2x corpum EANM, DCU II, 3x SS MFS
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on both fits fit 3x auxillery nano pump
what about that?
Meh not enough tank
2x Centum LAR, 3x Core X hardners, DCU II, Centum EANM, SS mag Stab.
Hybrid damage rig, Aux Nano, *something else*
^ Navy Mega. Should tank a small fleet
tbh yours has too little dmg lol =P tbh mine setup with the 3x auxillery nano pumps should tank a whole lot
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Chronus26
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.15 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Chronus26 on 15/03/2007 18:35:04
Originally by: Deathbarrage
Originally by: Chronus26
Originally by: Deathbarrage
for navy mega I'd figure:
7x electron II, heavy TS nos
gist b-type 100mn, dom web, dom dis, TS inj
2x centum LAR, 2x corpum EANM, DCU II, 3x SS MFS
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on both fits fit 3x auxillery nano pump
what about that?
Meh not enough tank
2x Centum LAR, 3x Core X hardners, DCU II, Centum EANM, SS mag Stab.
Hybrid damage rig, Aux Nano, *something else*
^ Navy Mega. Should tank a small fleet
tbh yours has too little dmg lol =P tbh mine setup with the 3x auxillery nano pumps should tank a whole lot
The hybrid damage rig is almost as good as another mag stab (just realized, mag stab has ROF bonus too, rig doesnt ). So damage is almost-kinda-just about as good, just mine has decent resists. If you want damage, just fit Neutrons. 
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.15 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Chronus26
Edited by: Chronus26 on 15/03/2007 18:35:04
Originally by: Deathbarrage
Originally by: Chronus26
Originally by: Deathbarrage
for navy mega I'd figure:
7x electron II, heavy TS nos
gist b-type 100mn, dom web, dom dis, TS inj
2x centum LAR, 2x corpum EANM, DCU II, 3x SS MFS
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on both fits fit 3x auxillery nano pump
what about that?
Meh not enough tank
2x Centum LAR, 3x Core X hardners, DCU II, Centum EANM, SS mag Stab.
Hybrid damage rig, Aux Nano, *something else*
^ Navy Mega. Should tank a small fleet
tbh yours has too little dmg lol =P tbh mine setup with the 3x auxillery nano pumps should tank a whole lot
The hybrid damage rig is almost as good as another mag stab (just realized, mag stab has ROF bonus too, rig doesnt ). So damage is almost-kinda-just about as good, just mine has decent resists. If you want damage, just fit Neutrons.
yours has crazy resists, mine's got decent resist with crazy rep amount on the reppers and way more dps i think
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 18:57:00 -
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Navy Mega:
7x Electron II, TS/DB Medium Neut
Gist Mwd, Domi Web, Domi 30k, TS/DB Injector
2x Centus X Reps, 3x Centus X Hardeners, 2x Corpum EANM, IFFA I/DCU II
3x Auxiliary Nano Pump I`s
This does tank a small fleet.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy
Navy Mega:
7x Electron II, TS/DB Medium Neut
Gist Mwd, Domi Web, Domi 30k, TS/DB Injector
2x Centus X Reps, 3x Centus X Hardeners, 2x Corpum EANM, IFFA I/DCU II
3x Auxiliary Nano Pump I`s
This does tank a small fleet.
I don't get it... Why buy a navy mega if you just wanna tank.... I'd rather get an abbadon if i wanted to do that
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R'adeh
Gallente
Gekidoku
Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy
Navy Mega:
7x Electron II, TS/DB Medium Neut
Gist Mwd, Domi Web, Domi 30k, TS/DB Injector
2x Centus X Reps, 3x Centus X Hardeners, 2x Corpum EANM, IFFA I/DCU II
3x Auxiliary Nano Pump I`s
This does tank a small fleet.
Took you long enough to find that thread 
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage
Originally by: FraXy
Navy Mega:
7x Electron II, TS/DB Medium Neut
Gist Mwd, Domi Web, Domi 30k, TS/DB Injector
2x Centus X Reps, 3x Centus X Hardeners, 2x Corpum EANM, IFFA I/DCU II
3x Auxiliary Nano Pump I`s
This does tank a small fleet.
I don't get it... Why buy a navy mega if you just wanna tank.... I'd rather get an abbadon if i wanted to do that
And who`s stopping you to get one?
That was my setup and how i fitted it, nothing more and nothing less.
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Ikvar
I WILL ROCK YOUR FACE
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:43:00 -
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This is how I fit my Navy Meg:
7x Ion Blaster Cannon II, 1x TS NOS
Gist X-Type 100MN MWD, Domination Warp Disruptor, Domination Stasis Web, Heavy Cap Booster II (I prefer to be able to load 5 charges)
2x Centus X-Type LAR, 3x Corpum or Centum A-Type EANM, Damage Control II, Co-Processor II, Shadow Serp Mag Stab
2x Ancillary Current Router I, 1x Nanobot Accelerator I
4x Beserker II, 5x Warrior II
Full high grade slave set (just under 20k armor)
1. Dont' say 'Eww a co-processor', the thing has **** all CPU and you'll find most people with really high end setups on Navy Megs (back me up here DeMundus) have to fit one.
2. The tank is extremely strong and I much prefer eanms to actives, however if you do want to go active I'd go 3x 64% (exp kin therm), a DCU and an EANM.
3. I prefer the extra low and armor on the Navy Meg to the Vindi's cap bonus.
4. 2 Centus X-Type LARs on a Hyperion with BS 5 is roughly equivalent to 4 T2 LARs.
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.15 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ikvar
This is how I fit my Navy Meg:
7x Ion Blaster Cannon II, 1x TS NOS
Gist X-Type 100MN MWD, Domination Warp Disruptor, Domination Stasis Web, Heavy Cap Booster II (I prefer to be able to load 5 charges)
2x Centus X-Type LAR, 3x Corpum or Centum A-Type EANM, Damage Control II, Co-Processor II, Shadow Serp Mag Stab
2x Ancillary Current Router I, 1x Nanobot Accelerator I
4x Beserker II, 5x Warrior II
Full high grade slave set (just under 20k armor)
Ewwww, Co-Processor...
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