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Ryoken McKeon
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:39:00 -
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...take over the entire 0.0, would CCP interfere and break BoB up or take action to force them out of that position?
(I already know the answer is no, they would never interfere, that would ruin the game if players were being messed with in that way, this is to prove a point to a corp mate. Just want an answer to shut him up.)
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Montolio
Spontaneous Defenestration
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:40:00 -
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They would 
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:40:00 -
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It's probably an impossible task anyway, as they would by definition have to convince everyone in 0.0 to join them to have control over all of 0.0, but if they did do this, CCP would not interfere before the inevitale self-destruction. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |

Draco Ronan
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:41:00 -
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No CCP won't stop them. But BoB will never control the entire 0.0 Why? Because one day or another something will happen (they are defeated/pushed back, internal conflicts, change of gameplay) and BoB will be stop.
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Ryoken McKeon
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn It's probably an impossible task anyway, as they would by definition have to convince everyone in 0.0 to join them to have control over all of 0.0, but if they did do this, CCP would not interfere before the inevitale self-destruction.
Yeah, BoB would have to grow quite a bit and maintain it's current cohesion, but if it does, then yeah---I don't see why it would be impossible .
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Draconyx
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:45:00 -
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If BOB were to control all of 0.0 it would be very interesting.
I believe the result would be something akin to what Isaac Asimov describes in the Foundations series and the destruction of the empire.
But what a ride it would be :)
Makes me almost wish they would just to see what happens :)
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bUBbLeS
Minmatar Spectre Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:45:00 -
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Actually devs have taken action against a group before
i believe is was some 2 bit pierat corp called "m0o" who has some bloackade thing going on
seem to remeber summink about spawned NPC battleships and stuff
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Xelios
Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.16 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: bUBbLeS Actually devs have taken action against a group before
i believe is was some 2 bit pierat corp called "m0o" who has some bloackade thing going on
seem to remeber summink about spawned NPC battleships and stuff
Yeah those were some entertaining days on the forums. GM's attacked m0o and ended up getting beaten by them, so they moved m0o members to random 0.0 systems to break them up. m0o was camping newb systems at that time, blowing up every ship they saw and holding off both CONCORD and the sentry guns. A short while later sentries and CONCORD were both boosted because of it. This was back when a certain gyrostabilizer would drop from certain rats that gave 40% bonus to ROF and damage without a stacking penalty, m0o had their low slots full of these.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoken McKeon
Originally by: Crumplecorn It's probably an impossible task anyway, as they would by definition have to convince everyone in 0.0 to join them to have control over all of 0.0, but if they did do this, CCP would not interfere before the inevitale self-destruction.
Yeah, BoB would have to grow quite a bit and maintain it's current cohesion, but if it does, then yeah---I don't see why it would be impossible .
You can't control all of 0.0 by conquering though, as it is impossible to lock down all at once, you'd need everyone to join willingly.
Given how opposed to them, and the very concept of a single powerful empire, some people are, this is pretty much impossible. -
If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |

jbob2000
Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:06:00 -
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<tinfoilhat> Why would CCP break up their own alliance? </tinfoilhat>
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Jarjar
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios
Yeah those were some entertaining days on the forums. GM's attacked m0o and ended up getting beaten by them, so they moved m0o members to random 0.0 systems to break them up.
Hmm, huh? I seem to recall m0o running away from the GM/Dev-piloted CONCORD battleships, except for one member who got his ass whipped pretty hard. Did they do this twice?
I do remember the random move-thing, though.
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Xelios
Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jarjar
Originally by: Xelios
Yeah those were some entertaining days on the forums. GM's attacked m0o and ended up getting beaten by them, so they moved m0o members to random 0.0 systems to break them up.
Hmm, huh? I seem to recall m0o running away from the GM/Dev-piloted CONCORD battleships, except for one member who got his ass whipped pretty hard. Did they do this twice?
I do remember the random move-thing, though.
It happened more than once iirc. They did run away one time because the GM's were using /heal on their ships. Dunno, memory gets foggy after 3 years ;)
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 17/03/2007 00:21:26
Originally by: jbob2000 <tinfoilhat> Why would CCP break up their own alliance? </tinfoilhat>

Sigh. One day I want to see a change to this comment. Just something new. Just for the heck of it. The current one is growing tedious, booring and I have allready worn out my 15th tinfoil hat from it.
Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:30:00 -
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If BoB was my mom, I'd totally bang her.
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bUBbLeS
Minmatar Spectre Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: bUBbLeS on 17/03/2007 00:38:26
Originally by: jbob2000 <tinfoilhat> Why would CCP break up their own alliance? </tinfoilhat>
According to the forums then and now m0o were devs
(especially stavros)
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 00:44:00 -
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No, would be your answer. Anyone who's looked at the Chinese server's political map will notice thats pretty much already happened there, and no Dev intervention.
Not that it can happen on Tranquillity. Winning or losing aside, they're certainly not steam rolling their way through this current war- if they wanted all of 0.0, that'd mean beating EVERY player who lives in 0.0. --------
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Ryoken McKeon
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Posted - 2007.03.17 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 No, would be your answer. Anyone who's looked at the Chinese server's political map will notice thats pretty much already happened there, and no Dev intervention.
Not that it can happen on Tranquillity. Winning or losing aside, they're certainly not steam rolling their way through this current war- if they wanted all of 0.0, that'd mean beating EVERY player who lives in 0.0.
Could you link me to their political map, please? :)
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nickky01
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.17 06:02:00 -
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IF bob took over 0.0, they'd be fighting many diff entities all over (chokepoints into lowsec, ect) but logic would dictate they install corps/alliances to live there (see rise, exe outcomes, ect) so in reality they would CLAIM it, but not really control it...it would be like now, where like "hostile gangs in your space you defend, major incursion, we defend"
i think.
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qui arthell
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Posted - 2007.03.17 06:06:00 -
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The chinese map is derived off who owns the station systems, meaning you could control access to systems, but as long as someone else controls the station(s) in the region, it shows up under their control on the map.
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Prophet Jurah
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.17 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoken McKeon ...take over the entire 0.0, would CCP interfere and break BoB up or take action to force them out of that position?
(I already know the answer is no, they would never interfere, that would ruin the game if players were being messed with in that way, this is to prove a point to a corp mate. Just want an answer to shut him up.)
Force them out? No, they might give them more free BPO's though...
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.03.17 07:02:00 -
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BoB again? Why do i even bother to read these posts? --- So I flame and troll when the occasion calls for it. So what are you gonna do about it? |

Auron Shadowbane
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Posted - 2007.03.17 07:33:00 -
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I hope they would not intervene since it would destroy all the illusious longest term goals :).
but then I think the most an alliance can earn is the status of "galactic military protectorate", meaning they get paid by the inhabitants to police aigainst military (capital) intruders. similar to current renters&"peds".
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Sovy Kurosei
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 07:49:00 -
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There are NPC stations so unless you can take those it would be impossible for BoB to control all of 0.0 space. ___________________
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Callthetruth
Caldari Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.03.17 08:04:00 -
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CCP would just add more 0.0 space
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adam 121
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Posted - 2007.03.17 09:10:00 -
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If bob took over the whole of 0.0, it would be because the game mechanics make it easy to keep soverignty over a continuous piece of space.
What CCP could do is gradually change the game mechanics to make it harder to hold large chunks of space.
This could include things like adding more 0.0 space, adding more entry points to 0.0, changing soverenty mechanics, or the mechanics of POS warfare and making it possible to wage 0.0 warfare from lowsec.
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Ziu
Wraith Recondite
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Posted - 2007.03.17 09:16:00 -
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BoB would have to change before that could happen - they don't have nearly enough manpower to cover all of 0.0. They're being given a challenge just to defend the areas they have now. |

Terminus adacai
Caldari Mintaka Mining Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:42:00 -
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The logistics alone would be mind boggling. While not unimaginable, you are talking about controlling regions. Many of them.
Also, just as in real life, they would find themselves facing a socialist type management, providing for their own, with little outside trade. History has shown that this path is destructive.
Controlling space is one thing. Regulating what passes through it is another. If they regulated and allowed trade traffic, they would be able to pull it off, without a doubt.
Like any other group, they produce and consume.
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Terminus adacai
Caldari Mintaka Mining Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.17 11:42:00 -
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The logistics alone would be mind boggling. While not unimaginable, you are talking about controlling regions. Many of them.
Also, just as in real life, they would find themselves facing a socialist type management, providing for their own, with little outside trade. History has shown that this path is destructive.
Controlling space is one thing. Regulating what passes through it is another. If they regulated and allowed trade traffic, they would be able to pull it off, without a doubt.
Like any other group, they produce and consume.
Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp. |

Amphetaminer
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Posted - 2007.03.17 14:34:00 -
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i would think that everyone that is against BoB would then use geurilla strike warfare.. hit and runs from empire/low sec wich gets very anoying really fast for the defenders and can cause some serious damage
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.17 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoken McKeon
Originally by: Patch86 No, would be your answer. Anyone who's looked at the Chinese server's political map will notice thats pretty much already happened there, and no Dev intervention.
Not that it can happen on Tranquillity. Winning or losing aside, they're certainly not steam rolling their way through this current war- if they wanted all of 0.0, that'd mean beating EVERY player who lives in 0.0.
Could you link me to their political map, please? :)
Not entirely sure I know where it is. A guy used to come on here posting updates about that server, which is where I saw it  --------
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