Use 500mn mwd. Let it cycle only once either by turning it off or disabling the auto-repeat. Either way you'll see sideways warps that would make a superstructure cry uncle. I also don't think you need inertials for this trick either.

You already can make like 300M isk/hour while tanking 50k DPS, dealing 2k DPS, and becoming invulnerable on command. What more do you want? A Rorqual mining away in a cynojammed system would be almost impossible to kill with a 1 min siege timer. Anything capable of killing it won't be able to get there before it jumps out.

That's exactly what I do. It doesn't, however, work without inertia stabs and neither it does perfectly (by what I mean Rorqual entering warp instantaneously after the MWD cycle ends) with 3 of them.

From what I remember this MWD 10 seconds to enter warp trick used to work better and was more reliable with the "old" Rorqual, not the one we have on Sisi right now.

EDIT: Alright, I've totally forgot about overheating the MWD

I see your point of more ganking miners. Has it ever occurred to you why people leave eve? They are tired of getting jumped all the time, even in HS if they wanted a fight they would just go to NS, LS or WH's.. The proof of being worried about users leaving is the now, the clones states. All of us old eve players are pretty set, new players get frustrated about the constant ambushing etc. You know it, you just said no fair, what you don't want a good fight with someone shooting back at you?. Well look at it his way, you don't even have to scan to find the miners, they are in a easy anomaly belt for you just to instantly warp in as you hit the system. Heck you don't even have to hit the scanner as you get free information on who is there and the system sov, so you know they are mining. Free intel all for the roaming gank fleets. Its okay but, have you seen the price of ships lately? I wonder why they are getting so high? Well, enjoy it was just a suggestion to put in on par with those that run all the PVE sites. There is no reason the best mining ship should be stuck when the best PVE ships can get out easily as well. Eve needs balance and they at least are on a better track right now. Cheers and happy hunting!

Can we please have clarification on this: will the Rorqual be able to enter Thera or will it be denied by a "no capital" rule?

That's exactly my point, the theoretical max yield was never accurate to begin with. With ship fittings alone and no skills, you got way more than it.

Is also worth noting excavator mining drones are going to be stupidly expensive

so you go from 3000m3 to 18000+ m3 by siege

I kind of feel that the out of siege number is to low, i would personally like to see it half of the siege


so 9000m3 for unsieged and 18000+ for sieged.

That way your still doing better then a couple of hulks (as you should be since its a 3 billion isk ship and the drones are over a hulks cost each)


this also makes it worth it even in regions that are less then friendly alot of the time.

New option is to agility command boost yourself. Gives aggro, but with the Rorqual most warps are long enough for that to expire.

Very happy with the proposed changes. On test I do see an area of concern however.

The new mining drones are painfully slow, thus making the mining yields MUCH less then what has been stated.

Another tidbit.. Since the mining drones are so incredibly slow... they get nuked almost instantly when a dread pops in your mining anom.


For that matter they are easily killed by normal rats in an anom as well, before you can pull them in.

Please allow the Rorqual to use all isotope types instead of just Oxygen.

While I understand your plight, the Rorqual was designed by ORE whose ship technology is based on Gallente designs. Thus it uses oxygen isotopes. Just because you want to use it as a poor man's jump freighter doesn't constitute changing it to a one size fits all isotope user.

Sorry mate not as poor as you think. I own a JF. So do not assume ****.

Players weren't able to light a cyno inside a POS shield, and I don't think they can do it while tethered either (without losing the tether and becoming vulnerable). Why should they be able to do it while invulnerable with the panic module?