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Ms Scully Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:36:00 - [61] So how much was the repair bill Little Texan? It was good fun and next we will succeed, consider this a test
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:45:00 - [62] Originally by: Kaaii WTS basilisk escort service... If you assist a criminal, you get flagged as well. Buh bye basilisk... Because I said so...
Kaathar Rielspar Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:56:00 - [63] Edited by: Kaathar Rielspar on 26/03/2007 11:53:28 Originally by: Neuromandis Originally by: Kaathar Rielspar Lets run some numbers, i'll use a rifter since its cheap: 2007.03.26 00:20 Your friendly insurance company has transferred 112,000.00 ISK into your account for the recent loss of your ship.This payout is the default payout for an uninsured ship. If you are interested in better insurance then please visit a station with an Insurance Service for further details. so, 112,000 isk for no insurance at all. basic insurance costs 14,000 isk and pays out 140,000 isk = gain after insurance cost of 126,000 isk platinum insurance costs 84,000 isk and pays out 280,000 isk = gain after insurance cost of 196,000 isk BUT since you paid 70,000 isk extra for platinum vs basic your actual net gain is 126,000 isk so, in light of this i'll grant you that i'm not right (basic insurance is worthwhile) but i'm not far from wrong either (platinum gets you nothing extra) Heheh nice try. No. You counted cost twice. Let's look at it again. Ship cost: 280.000 No insurance: Ship cost 280.000 + insurance cost 0 = 280.000 - insurance payout 112.000 so cost of buying, insuring and then losing rifter is 168.000. Put into other words, you gain 112.000 as stated. Basic: Ship cost 280.000 + insurance cost 14.000 =294.000 - insurance payout 140.000 so cost of buying, insuring, losing ship is 154.000. You indeed gain 140.000 - 14.000 = 126.000 Platinum: Cost 280.000 + insure 84.000 = 364.000 - insurance payout 280.000 so cost of buying, insuring, blowing up is... Surprise! 84.000. That is your mistake: In that case, you gained 280.000 at the cost of 84.000, for a total gain of 196.000. FULL STOP. After the BUT part there is nothing. the part after the BUT is like saying, you owe me a grand, so lend me two grand, ok, now I lend you one so you owe me a grand, cancels the one I owe you and we're fine I hope it was an honest mistake and not a fishing for idiots... If it was the latter it was cruel, but you had me fooled there for about 20 seconds. thought i must have had it wrong somewhere, certainly explains why i never have any isk thanks for clarifying. no fishing for idiots, just me and my bad math ____________________ Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe Originally by: Eximius Josari If BS Sized HACs would be overpowered, what are HACs? Overpriced Nos victims.
Kaaii Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.03.26 12:05:00 - [64] Originally by: murder one Originally by: Kaaii WTS basilisk escort service... If you assist a criminal, you get flagged as well. Buh bye basilisk... Why would you assume id be assisting the gankers? Last time I checked, no freighters had any method of agressing anyone, no agression, no flag... Trading 101 Kaaii-Net Research Labs
Copine Callmeknau The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 12:13:00 - [65] Originally by: Thalera Saldana Originally by: Big Al Vexor + 5 ogre Is + blasters = ganked. Have someone drop drones and scoop them so you can control 5. Not an exploit when petitioned to GMs. AFAIK, you are wrong and it is considered an exploit to control more drone m3 than your drone bay allows. Thal Wrong, by that logic you're exploiting when yo uget fighters assigned to you. I remember just over a year ago this was the hot topic, was ruled to be a legitimate tactic because there is no way of scooping your drones back up and following your opponent if they warp. ----- Originally by: Uncle Chop Chop Harden the **** up
Little Texan	Posted - 2007.03.26 12:35:00 - [66] About 40-50% of the drones were T2....mostly large drones but some medium drones. I think the easiest answer is give the freighter an ability to fit defense....capital armor reps would be fair since it is a capital ship. Also I would vote heavily for no insurance for suiciders. Real life is that way...insurance is for recovery of losses to accident not intentional criminal activity. Safe flying
Taipan Gedscho Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.26 13:09:00 - [67] Originally by: Thalera Saldana Originally by: Big Al Vexor + 5 ogre Is + blasters = ganked. Have someone drop drones and scoop them so you can control 5. Not an exploit when petitioned to GMs. AFAIK, you are wrong and it is considered an exploit to control more drone m3 than your drone bay allows. Thal 1) no exploit 2) ITS USELESS, PEOPLE. theres a drone bug, that, when you scoop deactived drones from space and relaunch them THEY STILL ACT LIKE BASIC DRONES (infosheet stats, no skills/modules/ship boni applied until you redock) so youre probably better off with medium drones, that get the vexor/skill boni. but still, i tried to gank a pod in front of rens with drones. afaik, they get instajammed by concord. feel free to verify my statements. Only you can save mmorpgs - Stop crying for nerfs today!
Crucifier BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.03.26 13:59:00 - [68] Back in the time when i was suicisideing in empire, i scanned a freighter down which had 35-50bn worth of loot in it. Not worth it? Think again. ------ Signature removed - please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected])
Carvott Milanis Rakeriku Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2007.03.26 15:09:00 - [69] Considering the entire fleet cost less than a bil, its more than just worth it... it makes sense! :)
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:21:00 - [70] Originally by: Ms Scully So how much was the repair bill Little Texan? It was good fun and next we will succeed, consider this a test 5 mil. THats what he paid in jita for someone to get out with a remote rep - not sure if there are remote hull reps though.
gordon cain Minmatar x13	Posted - 2007.03.26 17:30:00 - [71] Originally by: Rin Eyre Moving "killing" part aside, I really want to know what CCP will give Freighters for defence... because they sure as hell can't be defended in high-sec by any number of ships or setups when targeted by really planed attempt. Put him in a normal corp and get ready to protect him. Scouts out and bs with remotes ready. 35 Domi waiting at a gate could be a good sign not to go there. Gordon cain
WredStorm Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.03.26 18:07:00 - [72] /petition: I want huge, secure, freighter cans (the ones that are like 120K m^3 in size). They don't need the planck generator or whatever that thing is that makes them bigger inside than they are on the outside... you can't load assembled versions of those types of containers onto a freighter... I just want some big, massive, lockable containers! You wanna pop my freighter hauling stuff... fine... but you gotta spend a few years trying to pick the lock to the container that is too large for you to scoop up! Alternatively, I'd be happy to just be able to fit a DCU II in a low slot! Wred ----- If everyone had to have at least a room-temperature IQ in order to post in these forums, we'd all end up reading a hell of a lot less verbal-diarrhea.
Kher'Aleer Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.27 11:42:00 - [73] Originally by: WredStorm /petition: I want huge, secure, freighter cans (the ones that are like 120K m^3 in size)... big, massive, lockable containers! Alternatively, I'd be happy to just be able to fit a DCU II in a low slot! Wred I think theese are fairly reasonable additions to the game mechanics. Surely something that would be done in the real world ASAP, considering what the insurance companies come up with to counter criminal exploitation. Just think about it for a minute.
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.27 11:49:00 - [74] Originally by: gordon cain . 35 Domi waiting at a gate could be a good sign not to go there. LOL! SKUNK
Brackun Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.27 13:00:00 - [75] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: gordon cain . 35 Domi waiting at a gate could be a good sign not to go there. LOL! SKUNK I lol'd at your signature. Yay for freighter killing suicide sqauds. _________ Don't use the word "toon" to refer to your character, people find this irritating and it may label you a retard.
Pale NPastey	Posted - 2007.03.27 13:21:00 - [76] Edited by: Pale NPastey on 27/03/2007 13:22:26 You guys are dreaming....the logistics of suicide ganking a freigter is virtually impossible. I chuckle at the fantasy you guys have put together and I'm sure it's great to sit and rub your little hands together and dream about the possibilities, but the only remotely possible scenarios would be to do this in jita at a gate and scan for the best target. While I wouldnt say it's completely out of the question...i give it less then a 1% chance of ever succeeding. And I'd lay money that you simply can't put togeter a group large enough to do it. Even if you can you need to understand you're getting bragging rights and thats it cause you most likely will not make any money from the venture. This is like popping a high sec pos while concord is protecting it......talk all you want but I'll believe it when I see it.... As a matter of fact I will put a standing (one-time) 50m isk reward to the first group that pulls this off and posts a vid. Obviously 50m isn't much but hopefully others would chip in and make it worth while. Forwhat its worth, I am one of the afk freighter pilots so it's well worth my while to know if this can be done.
Miranda Ceres	Posted - 2007.03.27 13:26:00 - [77] ^ Watch Karma.avi, then come back.
Kher'Aleer Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.27 13:32:00 - [78] Edited by: Kher''Aleer on 27/03/2007 13:32:24 Edited by: Kher''Aleer on 27/03/2007 13:30:31 Originally by: Pale NPastey Edited by: Pale NPastey on 27/03/2007 13:22:26 As a matter of fact I will put a standing (one-time) 50m isk reward to the first group that pulls this off and posts a vid. Obviously 50m isn't much but hopefully others would chip in and make it worth while. Forwhat its worth, I am one of the afk freighter pilots so it's well worth my while to know if this can be done. Guess outbreak will get a bit more isk then. Edit: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=483554
Kher'Aleer Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.27 13:37:00 - [79] Edited by: Kher''Aleer on 27/03/2007 13:34:17 Stupid edit function.
Humpalot	Posted - 2007.03.27 13:52:00 - [80] I'm curious to know how ships being carried in a freighter are dealt with once the freighter pops. From what I have heard so far is packaged ships drop in the Wreck Can and not in to space. Unpackaged would pop out into space. Thing is you cannot carry unpackaged ships in a Freighter (unless this has changed which I hope it did cuz you cannot move ships with rigs otherwise). So, if packaged ships drop in the wreck I don't think anyone could grab anything from a Battlecruiser or bigger. Maybe some BCs could be scooped by large cargo haulers but I am reasonably certain no battleship could be. Anyone know how this works?
Milesofun	Posted - 2007.03.27 16:44:00 - [81] Seems like the easiest solution is for the freighter pilot to spawn concord on the low sec trade routes. Look at the 30 Bs waiting on the other side of the gate..... me logs in my alt in a BRAND new ibis shoots the lead bs for 1.1 dam, hey i got crappy gun skills the concord shows up to pod me, and they just hang around till the freighter comes through. seem's like all it will do is crash nodes, but i always hated jita anyways

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