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Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.26 02:59:00 - [31] Originally by: Petrothian Tong Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: xeom Xeom's guide to going from -10.0 to 1.7! You will first need a few things -Friends to rat with(Isk is split,But you get the same ammount of sec as if you killed it alone) -A Ventrillo server -BooZE -Lots of dirty topics to talk about If you do this for 4-7 hours a day you will lose it in two weeks! Remeber fast talk kiddies! Sounds like the latest diet plan. Honestly I think I'll try it...hm. How do get smashed in my home as someone who cannot legally drink...well I guess I'll have to work on that part.... pssst go to your local highschool for the errrm "special smokes" .. pretty sure theres one everywhere if you are in Europe or Canada =P Thanks for the hint, but: 1) I go to that high school (only for another month). 2) I have a respiratory disease so smoking = death. 3) It's not the issue of acquisition as much as it is my parents (remember I'm still in high school) wondering why I'm screaming slurredly into the microphone... 4) The amount of meds I'm on for part 2 reacts poorly with alcohol... However, I'm sure I can find some way of intoxicating myself...I just need to get creative. ----- :::Need to be cleaned::: Fixed it. Happy? Quite . -HornFrog
Kristoffer Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.03.26 03:00:00 - [32] Hey Baghdad Butter Dog =D
Sheriff Jones	Posted - 2007.03.26 03:00:00 - [33] Originally by: Jex Jast However, I'm sure I can find some way of intoxicating myself...I just need to get creative. Smarties. Bottle of mountain dew. Tin foil and some lotion. Not saying a word more but YOU KNOW... Originally by: Curzon Dax 1. I am not singing Ducktales.
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.26 03:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Jex Jast However, I'm sure I can find some way of intoxicating myself...I just need to get creative. Smarties. Bottle of mountain dew. Tin foil and some lotion. Not saying a word more but YOU KNOW... Let me guess...it also involves 25 haulers, 50 smart bombs, 3000 co-processors and a dead cat. ----- :::Need to be cleaned::: Fixed it. Happy? Quite . -HornFrog
Sheriff Jones	Posted - 2007.03.26 03:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Jex Jast Let me guess...it also involves 25 haulers, 50 smart bombs, 3000 co-processors and a dead cat. Only if you're willing to spend the next week in a semi comatosed state Originally by: Curzon Dax 1. I am not singing Ducktales.
Mr Mozzie Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.26 03:37:00 - [36] Originally by: Jex Jast I think the issue with security status is this: . . . The problem is that the TIME is horribly disproportionate to the CRIME. I completely disagree. Pirates shouldn't be able to recover from a crime with ten minutes of ratting. Sec status is essentially the drawback for commiting crimes. It isn't that bad a drawback either. All it does is flags you as a criminal, lets people attack you first, and prevents you from flying into lowsec. Anyhoo, sec status repping isn't intended to be a loophole around sec status for regular pirates. After all a bloodthirsty criminal with a good record is a massive contradiction. If someone wants to be a pirate either take the sec hit on the chest or accept that having a good record involves a lot of work.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2007.03.26 04:12:00 - [37] Cant do the time Dont do the crime Your signature is inappropriate. Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.03.26 05:50:00 - [38] Im for the death penalty. Raising sec should require you to die ingame. Literally. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Star Commander
Nyabinghi Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:07:00 - [39] Sec hits reside in this weird twilight zone between the NPC side of the game and the player side. It always seemed rather odd to me that you can pod and rob another player or players and then get back into good standing with the rest of EVE by profitably ratting in belts. Meanwhile the actual victim is S.O.L. ***
Sol Halcon Minmatar The Exile Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:41:00 - [40] Originally by: Lost Troll You may want to train Fast Talk, and that's if it still not broke. It works

Ender Fal Caldari Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Jex Jast However, I'm sure I can find some way of intoxicating myself...I just need to get creative. Smarties. Bottle of mountain dew. Tin foil and some lotion. Not saying a word more but YOU KNOW... Let me guess...it also involves 25 haulers, 50 smart bombs, 3000 co-processors and a dead cat. get it right, 300 co-proc or a dead cat. Not both, you do that and you'll get to 10.0 status......
Qolde Minmatar Guardian Heroes Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:56:00 - [42] If you can kill a ship, you can kill a pod. No need to prove it after every fight. If you were actually belt pirating instead of gate camping, you could kill a few rats as you mosey on through an empty system to cover the sec penalty from ship kills.
Nanobotter Mk2	Posted - 2007.03.26 07:54:00 - [43] Grow a set of balls like the people you pk'd did when they went into low sec with pve set ups. Head out to 0.0 where the real rats are put yourself at risk for once and your sec status will move fast. Killing rats in .7 systems where you are all nice and safe like you candy-ass pirates makes for a painful experience.
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.26 09:40:00 - [44] Originally by: Ender Fal Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Jex Jast However, I'm sure I can find some way of intoxicating myself...I just need to get creative. Smarties. Bottle of mountain dew. Tin foil and some lotion. Not saying a word more but YOU KNOW... Let me guess...it also involves 25 haulers, 50 smart bombs, 3000 co-processors and a dead cat. get it right, 300 co-proc or a dead cat. Not both, you do that and you'll get to 10.0 status...... Thank you. I was hoping someone would catch that reference. Why haven't you guys been posting at all lately? We miss your threads. ----- :::Need to be cleaned::: Fixed it. Happy? Quite . -HornFrog
Fuglife Huff Technologies Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:08:00 - [45] BD, just grab an enyo/diemos and goto fountain and npc up there, you only get a sec hit every 15minutes from the highest bounty ship you kill. So fit a cloak go afk after you kill a spawn for 15mins cloak up at a safe spot go do whatever irl then rinse and repeat. Fountains good because the bs cant hit crap so an enyo with neutrons and damage mods tears up bs I know Welsh Wizard! 3rd Best pvper in Eve
Maam	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:20:00 - [46] Chipping in with my 2 ISK ... You only get an increase once per 15 minutes maximum, for the "best" rat you killed in that period. The only rats that really give a really decent increase are battleships.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:27:00 - [47] Originally by: Butter Dog Why is raising sec status such a soul destroying chore? after 2 hours of mind numbing NPCing I am 0.1 higher, I would sooner self-harm than click the F keys again and watch another f**** red cross explode Bring back the bribable concord agent.... or something.... ANYTHING PS - yes i know I'm -5 because I was a bad boy, but this is a game, and i need it to be fun pls OH GOD NO! Why is mining for a ship so expensive? After 2 hours of mining I only have 1% of the ore that I need. I would sooner self-harm than click the F keys again and watch another roid implode. PS - yes I know it was my fault for carelessy hauling past a gate camp but this is a game and I need it to be fun pls. Suck it up Pirate! -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] Please don't read this signature.**
Malcanis Galactech Industries Ltd. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:31:00 - [48] Originally by: Jex Jast I think the issue with security status is this: I agree, if you do the crime, do the time, yadda yadda. The problem is that the TIME is horribly disproportionate to the CRIME. You can drop from 0 to -10 in a day or two if you really go mad pirating. And you don't even need a huge ship to do it. Can you go back up in a day? No, and you can only go back up in three days or longer if you have a big powerful ship AND access to 0.0 to kill the bs spawns. Now please don't come at me with "but if you murder someone IRL you have to spend the rest of your life in jail!". This is not life. It's supposed to be fun even if you kill people for a living for a while. My situation, for example, is this: I fly frigates. The largest ship I've flown is a battlecruiser. But I don't have access to 0.0 and I no longer have that bc. This leaves me stuck killing rats in 0.2 in my interceptor. Yes I can kill a dual-bc spawn in it, but it takes a half hour, and every time someone enters system I have to be right prepared to safespot immediately as I'm in dangerous space. At the rate I'm going, I will never return to high-sec. I'm only -7.7 and yet, I am in for a lot of not-fun playing if I want to be allowed in high sec again. Becoming a pirate/PvPer should not mean jumping down a hole that you can't climb out of. Sure, jumping into a pool that you have to swim a while to leave is fine, but the current system allows only the priveleged to regain sec status within a reasonable amount of time. And even then it's not that reasonable. Uh, and how do you think the ship that you killed was paid for? By mining or ratting for hours. Get yourself a ratting battlecruiser (Drakes are great for this).
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:49:00 - [49] Edited by: Roshan longshot on 26/03/2007 10:48:25 Originally by: Butter Dog Why is raising sec status such a soul destroying chore? after 2 hours of mind numbing NPCing I am 0.1 higher, I would sooner self-harm than click the F keys again and watch another f**** red cross explode Bring back the bribable concord agent.... or something.... ANYTHING PS - yes i know I'm -5 because I was a bad boy, but this is a game, and i need it to be fun pls Think about this...how much fun did you ruin for other players to get that -5.0? If you cant do the time, dont do the crime. Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate** or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Szprinkoth Sponsz Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:58:00 - [50] The rat with the highest sec stat increase every 15 minutes is what counts towards your sec status. The timer is reset with session changes (like all other timers such as aggro etc.). Kill a BS rat, jump to the next system, kill a BS, jump, rinse repeat profit???

Spiffy Nickel	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:01:00 - [51] Edited by: Spiffy Nickel on 26/03/2007 10:59:06 I'd just like to point out the fact that you only gain security every 20 or so minutes after killing an npc. You can kill 3 trillion gurista battleships or 1 gurista battleship in the same 20 minute interval and you will still only get the security increase for killing one battleship (something like .18 or whatever). So best way to gain security is only to kill a bs every 20 or so minutes, go do something else, check when your security is updated, kill another, go do something for 20 minutes, etc. As for solutions I think it is this issue that needs to be fixed. Make it so that you gain security per npc killed and not per every 20 minute interval. hope ccp listens. edit oh yes, to the op, so because of this, hate to break it to you, doesnt matter how much you killed in those two hours, maximum you mightve received about 6-8 security gains... which really isn't a lot. CCP needs to fix that.
Rabbitual Ferrier	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:04:00 - [52] Originally by: Butter Dog Why is raising sec status such a soul destroying chore? after 2 hours of mind numbing NPCing I am 0.1 higher, I would sooner self-harm than click the F keys again and watch another f****** red cross explode Bring back the bribable concord agent.... or something.... ANYTHING PS - yes i know I'm -5 because I was a bad boy, but this is a game, and i need it to be fun pls As they say 'Don't do the crime if ya can't do the time'. Its a game, but suprise suprise not everyone is happy when you ganked them or otherwise committed 'those criminal' acts against them. Your a proven criminal, a menace to society, and now your punishment is 24hours virtual labour. If its not fun for you now, then maybe you might be 'rehabilitated' by the long strive back to 0 status, or you could simply stay in 0.0 or low sec space.
Motorcycle Emptiness Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:47:00 - [53] You had your fun killing players who were most likely easy targets in PvE setups, who you then proceeded to pod. The sec rating mechanism is to ensure that players who do this are eventually banned from entering empire space where all the cheap things are Flashing White Box (rank 1)
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:28:00 - [54] Originally by: James Duar Originally by: Butter Dog PS - yes i know I'm -5 because I was a bad boy, but this is a game, and i need it to be fun pls Well yes it's a game, but it's a game where you got your fun wrecking other people's stuff. Seems fair. What about if I was antipirating? Same thing happens. Sec status is just strange. No real logic or reason... and its just a dull grind getting it back up. Utterly pointless. ----------
Kira's Shadow	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:30:00 - [55] Originally by: Butter Dog Why is raising sec status such a soul destroying chore? after 2 hours of mind numbing NPCing I am 0.1 higher, I would sooner self-harm than click the F keys again and watch another f****** red cross explode Bring back the bribable concord agent.... or something.... ANYTHING PS - yes i know I'm -5 because I was a bad boy, but this is a game, and i need it to be fun pls Low security standing would be meaningless if it were too easy to gain standing. You made a choice, assume the consequences...
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:32:00 - [56] Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 Grow a set of balls like the people you pk'd did when they went into low sec with pve set ups. Head out to 0.0 where the real rats are put yourself at risk for once and your sec status will move fast. Killing rats in .7 systems where you are all nice and safe like you candy-ass pirates makes for a painful experience. lol, funny - this is NPCin'g in 0.0 btw, you do know you take a sec status hit for killing pirates, right? That the game doesnt distinguish between right and wrong? ----------
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.26 20:02:00 - [57] Edited by: Soporo on 26/03/2007 20:00:36 Quote: btw, you do know you take a sec status hit for killing pirates, right? That the game doesnt distinguish between right and wrong? Yeah, that right there is pretty idiotic. Couple that with the lame and useless Bounty "system" and you got weaksacue extreme. There's no rational reason, that I can see, that CCP doesnt allow anyone to be able to agress a -sec status player without taking a sec hit. What pew pewing I do, I try to limit to wartargets and 0.0, as security status is important to me, particularly with Factional Warfare coming. Remove this obstacle and you WILL get more people pew pew'ing randomly in LowSec without resorting to alts.
Spartaen	Posted - 2007.03.26 20:17:00 - [58] I raised my sec using only Ibises & leeching corpmate's kills (seriously)
Laocoon Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.26 20:17:00 - [59] ^ me - Lao Veto. Corp
Crna Udovica Amarr Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.27 00:44:00 - [60] Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Ender Fal Originally by: Jex Jast Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Jex Jast However, I'm sure I can find some way of intoxicating myself...I just need to get creative. Smarties. Bottle of mountain dew. Tin foil and some lotion. Not saying a word more but YOU KNOW... Let me guess...it also involves 25 haulers, 50 smart bombs, 3000 co-processors and a dead cat. get it right, 300 co-proc or a dead cat. Not both, you do that and you'll get to 10.0 status...... Thank you. I was hoping someone would catch that reference. Why haven't you guys been posting at all lately? We miss your threads. Halod Crane is MIA and MrMann hasent been up to posting.



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