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Adrian Kerensky Caldari STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.28 18:56:00 - [1] Does anyone know what the chance of a spawn being an officer is when you warp into a belt % wise? I know it's extremely low I'm just interested. What about regular faction spawn? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil 258 bytes over!
Petrothian Tong Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.28 18:58:00 - [2] pretty sure is low and random... but yeah, depends on system security if they havnt changed it.. with 0.0 having the best..duh... -Siggi- ""PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale." Oveur
Motorcycle Emptiness Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.03.28 18:59:00 - [3] Faction spawns are kinda frequent I suppose, i've had about 10 in a few weeks of very light ratting. only drop ammo though Flashing White Box (rank 1)
Leilani Solaris Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.28 19:00:00 - [4] Originally by: Motorcycle Emptiness Faction spawns are kinda frequent I suppose, i've had about 10 in a few weeks of very light ratting. only drop ammo though Officer spawns are different to faction spawns. Officers are a battleship rat with a higher bounty and drop xxx's modified items instead of true sansha for example. Outbreak Killboard
Motorcycle Emptiness Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.03.28 19:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Leilani Solaris Originally by: Motorcycle Emptiness Faction spawns are kinda frequent I suppose, i've had about 10 in a few weeks of very light ratting. only drop ammo though Officer spawns are different to faction spawns. Officers are a battleship rat with a higher bounty and drop xxx's modified items instead of true sansha for example. gah true sansha and their laser marbles. never seen an officer before :) they only spawn in 0,0 or something? Flashing White Box (rank 1)
hired goon Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.28 19:37:00 - [6] I've lived in 0.0 for 2 years without seeing an officer or faction spawn. If you see them frequently I hope you get face cancer. -omg-
Zanarkand Gallente Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.28 19:42:00 - [7] Edited by: Zanarkand on 28/03/2007 19:39:53 Edited by: Zanarkand on 28/03/2007 19:38:41 Venal. Stain. Pirate regions. That is all I have to say about getting them. Chances of getting them are looooow and getting a numerical answer for your question would be very difficult I suppose... I have personally seen (and killed) about 10 officer spawns(1 year in 0.0), most of them in pirate sov regions.
Xendie Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.28 19:49:00 - [8] Originally by: hired goon I've lived in 0.0 for 2 years without seeing an officer or faction spawn. If you see them frequently I hope you get face cancer. hehe ive seen 3 officer spawns of wich 2 didnt drop cans at all and the last one dropped a tag and a standard web and a 1mn mwd..... go figure. Originally by: "darth solo" bad men came, bad men didnt go home, bad men left containers.
Willawaw Solar Storm	Posted - 2007.03.29 03:16:00 - [9] I was a faction spawn hunter and have amassed a large number of kills in a few years of hunting Dominations and a few True Sansha's. And I have not seen one Officer spawn in all that time unfortunately. And only heard of 2 1 in Tenefiris and 1 in Feythabolis.
General Apocalypse Amarr The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.29 04:53:00 - [10] Edited by: General Apocalypse on 29/03/2007 04:49:28 Originally by: Zanarkand I have personally seen (and killed) about 10 officer spawns(1 year in 0.0), most of them in pirate sov regions. All i have to say about officers. Originally by: Verone The day I go Anti-Pirate is the day satan shall be ice skating to work.
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.29 05:30:00 - [11] 7-month old player here, been in 0.0 for about four, and I've seen countless faction spawns in Delve, and one officer. :D He dropped the second best Cap Booster and PDU in the game and he netted me a grand total of 2.4bn. So here's a big f***-you to missionrunners who insist that running missions is the one and only way to make money. ---------------
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.03.29 05:40:00 - [12] Originally by: Davlos 7-month old player here, been in 0.0 for about four, and I've seen countless faction spawns in Delve, and one officer. :D He dropped the second best Cap Booster and PDU in the game and he netted me a grand total of 2.4bn. So here's a big f***-you to missionrunners who insist that running missions is the one and only way to make money. You see for mission runners its safe easy and consistant money, more like a day job, what your doing is basically gambling, gambling the chance of spawn and teh chance of getting podded. 2 completely different activities for 2 different types of people.
Rachmat Ardiyanto The Raging Armada	Posted - 2007.03.29 05:49:00 - [13] Edited by: Rachmat Ardiyanto on 29/03/2007 05:51:33 Edited by: Rachmat Ardiyanto on 29/03/2007 05:50:22 I'm also interested with this, is there a way to increase the chance of faction/officer spawn? some people say that killin all rats in the system will increase this chance, is it true?
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.29 05:54:00 - [14] Gambling? Nah. I don't gamble. Ever. Not even if it's a game. You'd see me watching * ** before seeing me at a casino. 0.0 ratting is far easier than missionrunning. I don't even need to think of an awesome tank, just a Raven with cheap named mods does the trick. One battleship spawn nets me a total of 2.4m - 3.2m every belt. Killing the trio takes 2-3 minutes at most. That yield is far higher than what L4 missions can ever offer, excluding the waiting time while drywashing your hands and wondering if the retarded agent is gonna stop giving you +5 charisma implants or something miserably stupid. Just take the usual precautions that the smart lowsec missionrunner (this term is a misnomer, missionrunners moan and brown their pants at the thought of lowsec) would take. Make star safespots, align to star while shooting the torps, etc. Most missionrunners just hide in hisec and make their pennies, calling it the best way evar to make iskies. Meh. I'm just unhappy at hisec missionrunning being such a risk-free endeavour. It's bloody out of place in a game where everything one does involves risk. ---------------
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.29 08:05:00 - [15] Originally by: Davlos 7-month old player here, been in 0.0 for about four, and I've seen countless faction spawns in Delve, and one officer. :D He dropped the second best Cap Booster and PDU in the game and he netted me a grand total of 2.4bn. So here's a big f***-you to missionrunners who insist that running missions is the one and only way to make money. Missed the target by a wide margin. If you read carefully the people speaking about the "huge" mission runner rewards (and generally asking to nerf them) are for the 90% ratters lamenting that they get less than mission runnersn not the reverse. And most of those ratters don't loot the wreckage as that will lower the isk for hour they get. Go figure . From my limited experience the loot is the best thing in ratting but they lament they are getting a low reward and then don't go for the best part of it.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.29 08:13:00 - [16] Originally by: Rachmat Ardiyanto Edited by: Rachmat Ardiyanto on 29/03/2007 05:50:22 I'm also interested with this, is there a way to increase the chance of faction/officer spawn? some people say that killin all rats in the system will increase this chance, is it true? I've read countless theories on the topic and none seemed to be the definite and all were quite different. I've been in stain, GW and pure blind for quite a few months each and so far have killed about 10 - 15 faction and 0 officer spawns, and i think the total value of items dropped was less then 1 bil. Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
Davlos Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.29 08:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Davlos 7-month old player here, been in 0.0 for about four, and I've seen countless faction spawns in Delve, and one officer. :D He dropped the second best Cap Booster and PDU in the game and he netted me a grand total of 2.4bn. So here's a big f***-you to missionrunners who insist that running missions is the one and only way to make money. Missed the target by a wide margin. If you read carefully the people speaking about the "huge" mission runner rewards (and generally asking to nerf them) are for the 90% ratters lamenting that they get less than mission runnersn not the reverse. And most of those ratters don't loot the wreckage as that will lower the isk for hour they get. Go figure . From my limited experience the loot is the best thing in ratting but they lament they are getting a low reward and then don't go for the best part of it. Have tractor beam on Raven. I loot my wrecks. It adds about sixty mil to my daily income on top of bounties. ---------------
Jon Hawkes The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.29 08:28:00 - [18] From what I recall, Officers spawns happen at a rate of one per region per day.
Ling Xiao	Posted - 2007.03.29 08:40:00 - [19] Officer spawns only appear in their organisation's Sovereign systems, which is mostly NPC station areas. Faction spawns can appear anywhere a normal spawn of that group appears. __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing?
xtreamer BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.03.29 09:56:00 - [20] Originally by: Ling Xiao Officer spawns only appear in their organisation's Sovereign systems, which is mostly NPC station areas. Faction spawns can appear anywhere a normal spawn of that group appears. i had an officer in fythabolis thats not an organisation's Sovereign system
Varrakk Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.29 10:02:00 - [21] They are extremly rare. I've gotten 2 spawns (my 2nd officer today)
Gabriel Karade Nulli-Secundus	Posted - 2007.03.29 10:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Ling Xiao Officer spawns only appear in their organisation's Sovereign systems, which is mostly NPC station areas. Faction spawns can appear anywhere a normal spawn of that group appears. That's not true whatsoever, I've only seen 3 officers in my time, and all three were in non-sovereign territory (though the 'true' security status of the systems was low) ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Nocturnal Avenger untaught	Posted - 2007.03.29 10:46:00 - [23] Edited by: Nocturnal Avenger on 29/03/2007 10:42:29 Last summer I found the 18M officer in the Curse region. Loot was about 1B. Two days later the same officer appeared - loot was also about 1B. Since then I participated (or heard about) 3-4 other officers. The time period for all this is about 3-4 months and I ratted several hours each day. Total loot value was 3-4B.
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.03.29 11:18:00 - [24] Hell, I been in angel space for years and only found 2 faction spawns and 0 officer spawns..... and what ever happened to those uber sized hauler spawns that would drop 30m trit and all that good stuff.... -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp -Corp Public Channel = The T Public -Alliance Public = kos-public
Excesse	Posted - 2007.03.29 11:27:00 - [25] These extreme differences in different people's experiences are down to two things: 1) Chance. 2) Region/Constellation. From personal experience, the best theory around at the moment is that officer spawns are vastly more common in pirate 'home' constellations than they are anywhere else in EVE. Spawns in other locations are possible, but the likelihood probably falls off with some kind of log-based curve. Where I used to live (which I won't advertise) was known as the 'home' constellation of one of the big pirate factions, and someone in the corp used to pop an officer roughly once a week. I only ever got one myself, but they were there alright.
SamtheDog Singularity. The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.03.29 11:37:00 - [26] Edited by: SamtheDog on 29/03/2007 11:36:55 Officer spawns are quite frequent if you search for them enough. Last summer I was getting 2-3/week & netted nearly 30bn in 3 months. It's a term I coined when I'm searching aka "The Officer Hunt" which often nets 2-3 faction rats per session + the occasional officer. One time we got 3 officers & 5 faction rats in less than a 1 hour period. I'd say the statistical chance of a faction rat would be 1/1000 for a faction & 1/10k per officer. There IS a way to get a much higher chance of getting them outside complexes. Some peopel thing that killing off all the spawns seems to do the trick (aka 'priming' a system) but it doesnt' really work out that way. Though I played less during when I was lecturing, I still got around 1/week avg until the past two months where I got nothing but piddly faction rats. Got an officer yesterday netting me around 1.2-1.4bn in isk. They are the best way to get rich in this game if you're not a complex runner. AS for myself, around 62bn & climbing in 1 year. Sam "Never underestimate greed or stupidity...you can always see it emerge in the end"
Ordo Lucius Dark Storm Syndicate Galactic-Federation	Posted - 2007.03.29 11:43:00 - [27] I recently found one in a .6 system. I forget what it was called but it dropped a nice t2 implant, "Slave delta" or something. 40 odd millions worth made from a single rat in .6? Lovely. However, one in nearly two years of playing? Like a blue moon it would seem. "An idiot always wins. Why? Because he's too stupid to realise when he's lost..."
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.29 11:57:00 - [28] Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 29/03/2007 11:55:37 I've killed around 150-175 faction while in 0.0, it's quite easy to find them. Officer's however i've only found one and that was in a 1 belt system in Delve/Querious (i forget which). Damnit Sam, you always did get the officer's and I can't remember how. Convo coming your way! Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.29 12:05:00 - [29] I've probebly killed somewhere along the lines of 100 faction spawns during my 10 months in 0.0. "avg of once per day when i do rat, but other days i don't even bother ratting in favor of PVP". I'm yet to see a single officer spawn :-/. ______________________ Interested?
Paia	Posted - 2007.03.29 12:05:00 - [30] Played eve for over 3 years. i rat now and again for sec status and ive never seen an officer spawn.
Random Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.29 13:41:00 - [31] Edited by: Random Caldari on 29/03/2007 13:42:18 Edited by: Random Caldari on 29/03/2007 13:38:15 Chance of finding an Officer spawn is a follows. Number of officers / ( Number of systems in region * average number of belts per system ) so in Venal ( Guristas officers spawn region ) for instance 4 / ( 88 * 12 ) This is only valid for Pirate ( Home Regions ) , ime O spawns are MUCH rarer outside there home regions. From 9 Guristas Officer kills only 1 was outside venal ( Vale of the silent ) even though I concentrated my searches outside Venal as I was KOS there at the time :) . = 4 / 1056 = 1 in 264 Guistimating the average number of belts. But 1 in 250 chance feels about right based on my experience of hunting O spawns in Venal.
Hoshi Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.03.29 13:45:00 - [32] Originally by: Ordo Lucius I recently found one in a .6 system. I forget what it was called but it dropped a nice t2 implant, "Slave delta" or something. 40 odd millions worth made from a single rat in .6? Lovely. However, one in nearly two years of playing? Like a blue moon it would seem. That was a faction spawn not officer. Officers fly 15-25m bounty battleship and have personal names like Tobias, Hakim, Mizuro etc. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
D2O HeavyWater Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.03.29 14:36:00 - [33] Popped Thon twice, both times in Deklein. IMO offices are very very rare beasties, I know people who have ratted in 0.0 for years and never seen an officer spawn. In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but planning is indispensable.
Boci The Legion. Requiem-Aeternam	Posted - 2007.03.29 14:46:00 - [34] Never found an officer in a year spent in blood raider space, best thing I ever got was a 11mil bounty Dark Blood BS that dropped a blood microwave L :P
Random Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.29 14:53:00 - [35] Best way to find Officers. Use an alt in a shuttle , warp to each belt in the system in turn. If non found then move onto the next system and repeat process. Using this method is best after DT as you can see on the map which systems have been visited by other players ( view number of jumps ). When you find an O spawn , log off alt , log on main and go get him. Using this method you can reasonable expect to find at least 1 officer a week ( 16 hours play ) and many Faction spawns. I can only speak from my own experiance , maybe other players are different , but I found it much easier to find O spawns in the Pirate home region. I dont know if this is still the case as it was some time and many patches ago when I used to O rat. Officer spawns seem to stay in the same system until they are killed or until DT - They can jump between belts though, so by the time your main gets there with the BS you may have to search the belts again to locate it, but it will still be in system. Also they sometimes seem to hide in the center of the star ( visible on scanner ) a bug I presume , but they come out eventually.
Ishmael Hansen No Quarter. C0VEN	Posted - 2007.03.29 15:00:00 - [36] I've heard all sorts of crazy theories about triggering officer spawns, someone even claimed to have triggered 17m officer in 0.3 systems, imo it's random. I've killed 4 officers in my time, in Immensea, Catch and recently killed 2 in Venal, and still think it's random.
Buxaroo Black Dwarf	Posted - 2007.03.29 15:22:00 - [37] Well the notion that they have to be in NPC sov is BS. I have hit 3 officer spawns in my time, and all 3 were in BYXF up in lower Fountain about 4 jumps from Hophib. I got ALL 3 in 1 weeks time. Twice I hit Setelle Schellan and killed Tuvan as well. I hit 2 of them within 24 hours of each other. I made about 2 billion off of all 3 (some of the mods were given to corp mates at the time). But I haven't seen an officer sense then. Plenty of faction, but not an officer. So I think it's completely random tbh. Or I had the luck of the Irish
Random Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.29 15:53:00 - [38] Edited by: Random Caldari on 29/03/2007 15:52:03 Edited by: Random Caldari on 29/03/2007 15:50:11 Originally by: Buxaroo Well the notion that they have to be in NPC sov is BS. I have hit 3 officer spawns in my time, and all 3 were in BYXF up in lower Fountain about 4 jumps from Hophib. I got ALL 3 in 1 weeks time. Twice I hit Setelle Schellan and killed Tuvan as well. I hit 2 of them within 24 hours of each other. I made about 2 billion off of all 3 (some of the mods were given to corp mates at the time). But I haven't seen an officer sense then. Plenty of faction, but not an officer. So I think it's completely random tbh. Or I had the luck of the Irish It is Random I agree. But whether it is a) each spawn has a random chance of being an Officer or b) officers are randomley distributed at DT. Does not matter. What matters is that the more spawns you see , the greater your chances of finding an Officer spawn. Warping belt to belt and then moving to next system ( while not engaging any normal spawns I add ) , you will see 50 times more spawns than if you stay in one system killing everything. So if you want to kill O spawns my advice is go search them out, don't wait for them to come to you. On the subject of NPC Sov systems I just said that the O spawns seem more common there than in non npc sov 0.0.
Rachmat Ardiyanto The Raging Armada Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.03.29 17:53:00 - [39] Edited by: Rachmat Ardiyanto on 29/03/2007 17:50:05 Originally by: Ishmael Hansen I've heard all sorts of crazy theories about triggering officer spawns, someone even claimed to have triggered 17m officer in 0.3 systems, imo it's random. I've killed 4 officers in my time, in Immensea, Catch and recently killed 2 in Venal, and still think it's random. Can you share the story,how he triggered that officer spawn?

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