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JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:26:00 - [1] Edited by: JMcClane on 31/03/2007 17:22:41 For several months we have looked the other way as our fellow alliance members did their dirty deeds. Privateer Alliance (PA)once held an oppertunity for us to remove bad eggs in most alliances here in New Eden. Now the time has come to remove the bad eggs from within PA. We all know who they are, and we feel we must try to save their lost souls. God's will shall strike them fiercely in the forthcoming weeks. 2007.03.31 17:24 Righteous Choirboys has declared war on Privateer Alliance. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Dr Cron Northern Lights Number 5	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:30:00 - [2] snore
Ziu Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:31:00 - [3] Ex Phoenix Alliance members must be getting a bit uppity by now, surely ...
Slave 775 Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:32:00 - [4] Originally by: JMcClane Now the time has come to remove the bad eggs from within PA. Nice you already started with removing yourself.
hedfunk Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:32:00 - [5] Epic. I thought you objected to 4-4 gankers.....which would mean to kill them...you'd have to go there to kill them...meaning you'd be a 4-4 ganker. Hello Haulers.
Haargoth Agamar S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:33:00 - [6]
Kaleeb S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:56:00 - [7] I better stay out of Kaaputenen then
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:57:00 - [8] According to SFShootMe of Privateer Alliance. Self-proclaimed Fleet Commander, only 2.8% of his kills are made in Jita. I've tried doing the math with a few different calculators and come up with the number 17.97% This means he will be in Jita about 20% of his online time... This would mean he occationally leaves Jita. We'll get him when he does. You can camp 4-4 as you please. Keep the lag to yourselves, and your low morale standards as well
Kaleeb S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:15:00 - [9] Originally by: JMcClane According to SFShootMe of Privateer Alliance. Self-proclaimed Fleet Commander, only 2.8% of his kills are made in Jita. I've tried doing the math with a few different calculators and come up with the number 17.97% This means he will be in Jita about 20% of his online time... This would mean he occationally leaves Jita. We'll get him when he does. You can camp 4-4 as you please. Keep the lag to yourselves, and your low morale standards as well So what was your percentage in Kaaputenen?
Blue Stratos Amarr BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:34:00 - [10] Originally by: JMcClane Cheats beating n trying to look big Dude, everyone is at war with privateers, yoru not the only one :) Originally by: CCP Sharkbait think the problem is found. last startup now.
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:44:00 - [11] Edited by: Le Skunk on 31/03/2007 18:41:49 Yet another anti privateer whine by someone or another The good thing is, when they were in privatter alliance they paid for a war a week for the rest of us. Now they are out of privaterr alliance.... they pay for a war a week for the rest of us. Bit low I thought but good luck to you anyhows. SKUNK "not everyone has the skills to handle the heat in the privateer alliance"
TrippyX Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:44:00 - [12] BRING IT! ____________________ I ♥ [TSYND]
Elmicker Unscoped Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:46:00 - [13] Have fun, McClane.
Htrag The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:47:00 - [14] Originally by: JMcClane According to SFShootMe of Privateer Alliance. Self-proclaimed Fleet Commander, only 2.8% of his kills are made in Jita. I've tried doing the math with a few different calculators and come up with the number 17.97% This means he will be in Jita about 20% of his online time... This would mean he occationally leaves Jita. We'll get him when he does. You can camp 4-4 as you please. Keep the lag to yourselves, and your low morale standards as well This is my first and most likely last post on these forums. I've been flying with SFShootme for a longass time and we're lucky to have him in our corp. You probably remember when we went to UK space and owned them considering the fleet we had? When SFShootme was the FC and we came out on top while we were outnumbered and in unfamiliar territory? You know the one where you and your buddy brought Thoraxes to a Battleship fight? Now you talk trash about him? You might want to check our main killboard and our old ones for accurate stats before you call someone out. I'll tell my guys to stop killing people at Jita 4-4 as soon as they dont have to worry about black screening in their new Raven and getting ganked themselves. Having people camping 4-4 doesn't just provide ganks (no loot of course because of leeches) it provides the ability for friendlys to dock and undock. Also you fail to consider the Jita kills that take place at gates, not just the station. I had respect for your pvp skills and always thought you were a cool dude, but the personal attacks and the bitterness you've shown definitely makes the privateers better off without you. Now you're not special, you're just another red star on the overview.
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:51:00 - [15] Originally by: Kaleeb Originally by: JMcClane According to SFShootMe of Privateer Alliance. Self-proclaimed Fleet Commander, only 2.8% of his kills are made in Jita. I've tried doing the math with a few different calculators and come up with the number 17.97% This means he will be in Jita about 20% of his online time... This would mean he occationally leaves Jita. We'll get him when he does. You can camp 4-4 as you please. Keep the lag to yourselves, and your low morale standards as well So what was your percentage in Kaaputenen? Well... approx. 120% I guess :) I bought that gate of Romeo. Payed a lot of money for that gate to Niarja. (Seriously... There's not much station ganking or lag abusing on my kill list! Kaaputenen is just a bit more stable than Jita mate ;)
Major Stormer Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:54:00 - [16] Hmm.... Go JMcClane and your boys :D Damn I cant believe I said that
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:57:00 - [17] Just dont tell anoyone about the Privatter alliances hidden POS and shipyards or they are fuked! PLEASE DONT TELL THEM ABOUT THE TITAN! SKUNK
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:58:00 - [18] Originally by: Htrag Edited by: Htrag on 31/03/2007 18:47:13 Originally by: JMcClane According to SFShootMe of Privateer Alliance. Self-proclaimed Fleet Commander, only 2.8% of his kills are made in Jita. I've tried doing the math with a few different calculators and come up with the number 17.97% This means he will be in Jita about 20% of his online time... This would mean he occationally leaves Jita. We'll get him when he does. You can camp 4-4 as you please. Keep the lag to yourselves, and your low morale standards as well I've been flying with SFShootme for a longass time and we're lucky to have him in our corp. You probably remember when we went to UK space and owned them considering the fleet we had? When SFShootme was the FC and we came out on top while we were outnumbered and in unfamiliar territory? You know the one where you and your buddy brought Thoraxes to a Battleship fight? Now you talk trash about him? You might want to check our main killboard and our old ones for accurate stats before you call someone out. I'll tell my guys to stop killing people at Jita 4-4 as soon as they dont have to worry about black screening in their new Raven and getting ganked themselves. Having people camping 4-4 doesn't just provide ganks (no loot of course because of leeches) it provides the ability for friendlys to dock and undock. Also you fail to consider the Jita kills that take place at gates, not just the station. I had respect for your pvp skills and always thought you were a cool dude, but the personal attacks and the bitterness you've shown definitely makes the privateers better off without you. Now you're not special, you're just another red star on the overview. I as well respect SFShoot for his leadership of the gang. I haven't questioned that ever. I questioned his kills made in Privateers. Or actually FrezZzer did. What we got in return was a long serious of incorrect info posing as a 'defense' against the 'attacks' made by FrezZzer! That's where the bone is buried mate. I remember that battle. We brought our thorax's as we responded to a distress call to attack a hostile gang. We needed to get there pretty quick, and thus chose pretty fast ships. Afterwards I lead the gang to 0.0. After arguing it would a good idea for 10 minutes where the other gang members 'didn't want to go in this ship' or 'I have to leave soon'. .... ... We did some nice work that day, and the reason SFShootMe took over was that Boogiez and I jumped back and decloaked prior to the main gang hitting the gate. We we're bait. It worked, and we got primaried!
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:01:00 - [19] Edited by: Le Skunk on 31/03/2007 18:57:09 I WILL CRUSH YOUR POXY INTERCEPTOR WITH MY BARE BWESTS COUGH I MEAN HANDS SKUNK ".. so i said keep them on the forums and they cant come gnke me"
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:01:00 - [20] Originally by: Le Skunk Just dont tell anoyone about the Privatter alliances hidden POS and shipyards or they are fuked! PLEASE DONT TELL THEM ABOUT THE TITAN! SKUNK Hehe... always taking it with a smile :) I like that 'bout you Skunk... As for us paying the war... well... A few hundred millions is a small price to have fun in EVE. Having fun is our primary objective... Not keeping a 100 to 1 KD ratio! Hope to see you in some fun battles and some friendly smacking!
Templer Relleg Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:05:00 - [21] Edited by: Templer Relleg on 31/03/2007 19:02:14 Seriously. This is just one big joke. For a long time you were one of the persons who did the most kills in privateers, and now you think of privateers as "bad eggs"? Just have a look: privateer.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=JMcClane Now tell me again, that you were in privateers and were the person with the second most points, and didnt like it. Laughable! </Evil> On a friendly note. Should be fun
Mextor Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:44:00 - [22] How things change in such a short space of time, it was not a week or 2 when you were singing Privateer's praises and now you are at war with them
JMcClane Gallente Righteous Choirboys	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:55:00 - [23] I liked being in Privateers. Key word in that sentence is in italic! Mextor... I didn't praise Privateers!!! Actually... the operation title gives a little hint of what I did comment back then. The shooting of undocking players seeing nothing but a black screen, then back to station, 1 ship poorer, 2 concord mails richer. Slackers did when at war with Privateers. Privateers does it. It's below my morale. That's all! Privateers was fun! Had plenty of good kills and fun there. And my post about bad eggs in Privateers refer to these black screen gankers!
SwissMiss The Scope	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:56:00 - [24] Originally by: JMcClane Originally by: Le Skunk Just dont tell anoyone about the Privatter alliances hidden POS and shipyards or they are fuked! PLEASE DONT TELL THEM ABOUT THE TITAN! SKUNK Hehe... always taking it with a smile :) I like that 'bout you Skunk... As for us paying the war... well... A few hundred millions is a small price to have fun in EVE. Having fun is our primary objective... Not keeping a 100 to 1 KD ratio! Hope to see you in some fun battles and some friendly smacking! Fun is your primary objective you say? So leaving their alliance and paying 200mil/week for 75 online targets is more fun than staying in their alliance and paying 50mil/week for several thousand online targets? Seems contradictory. You were short sighted enough to leave KIA, I guarantee anything they do is more fun than what you provide your corp now. Historically it doesnt appear you know what your doing if fun really is your primary goal. Just my two cents. I like hot cocoa.
Templer Relleg Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 21:23:00 - [25] Originally by: JMcClane I liked being in Privateers. Key word in that sentence is in italic! Mextor... I didn't praise Privateers!!! Actually... the operation title gives a little hint of what I did comment back then. The shooting of undocking players seeing nothing but a black screen, then back to station, 1 ship poorer, 2 concord mails richer. Slackers did when at war with Privateers. Privateers does it. It's below my morale. That's all! Privateers was fun! Had plenty of good kills and fun there. And my post about bad eggs in Privateers refer to these black screen gankers! Im not a big fan of ganking blackscreened players. Some like it, and really, they are allowed to do that. Because how could they know if the player were blackscreened, or just stupid enough to press undock, and look at away for a minute? But if you wanna stop people from doing this, wouldnt it take YOU to camp stations aswell? You have to go where they are afterall. Oh the irony.
Surreptitious Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 21:26:00 - [26] Edited by: Surreptitious on 31/03/2007 21:26:46 JMcClane, this is going to sound rude but you are an arrogant elitist and it really rubs people the wrong way. Please hear me out. One week ago you come to me saying I should boot most of the corps, mainly the (not yet famous) corps and double the price of alliance membership from 50mi/week to 100mil/week. All in an effort to "get some respect from the community". I talked about it with a few people that evening and we all agreed with 5 minutes it was a bad idea and would not only keep us from acheiving our original goal, it completely contradicted what this alliance is all about. Now here we are one week later and you decided to leave the alliance. But you couldnt do it on friendly terms being appreciative of the fun you had and the people who provided it. You decide to burn your bridges, sending offensive and insulting emails to me and the entire alliance. You start making dillusional proclamations of what the alliance has grown into and how you think it should be. Well I ask you, WHAT THE HELL GIVES YOU ANY IDEA THAT YOUR OPINION MATTERS? You had absolutrly nothing to do with the formation of the corp, the alliance or even the concept in general. So get off your high horse and shut the f' up. I use to ignore what others said and gave you respect purely for your PVP ability but thats all gone. You've shown yourself to be arrogant, self absorbed and obnoxious. The fact you think you can try and form this alliance into your image is just plain disgusting and pathetic. Your exact words were that you were leaving because "while in this alliance you'd never get the respct you deserve." Those exact words eximplify why this was not the right place for you. As a group we dont want the community to like us. It is better that way and a rallying cry. What we do want and to some degreee already get is respect for ability to be a pain in the but to orgs in empire. I really wish you could just accept that what we do is not right for you and mvoe on, instead of try and change it. I'll say here what I told the alliance. You have been playing for roughly 3 years. You have joined and left some of the most bad-ass corps in the game, X13, KIA. If you were capable of aceiving anything, or earnign any real respect you would have done it by now. If what you told me in private is true and you wanted to be respected by the community do you honestly think this will get it? So what? So you left an alliance and declared war on it? Congrats, your 22 people of the 15,000 we are at war with. If what you said to me in private was a lie and this is the truth, that you simply want fun. I fail to see how leaving an alliance with more wars and targets than anyone, ever, is helping you towards that goal. I actually kindof feel bad for your corp members because seeing how boring things got going from 150 wars to 75 I would pretty much leave the game if all I had was 2 or 3. Having learned a little more this appears to be nothing more than a personal battle between a few allaince m8's that has blown up into you leaving the alliance and formulating this genious master plan of yours. In all honesty it is better with you gone. Im sure someone has shown you the alliance mails since you've left so Im sure you would not argue there. I would say good luck but I dont think that would help. If you really want to acheive anything in this game worthwhile my advice would be to find a good idea, somethign worthwhile that people will notice and commit to it. Syrup
Templer Relleg Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 21:40:00 - [27] Nice post Surr! Now.. If you want respect, and wanna do something big, you arent gonna do it by shooting privatees. We're just 4-4 gankers right? Really, this seem to rather kill any respect, i think. But ok. More targets for us going trough the pipe. I guess thats our gain.
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.01 03:23:00 - [28] Ive spoken to Mclane on TS a few times and in his defence he seemed like a nice bloke. As i have said before I think deccing us was a bit off. Surrep raises a good point in that whatever you say about the privatters, good OR bad, we have left an impact on the game. I personally appreciate the possibilites of evolution that being a player of EVE offers. So many possibilities, and many suprises to come. The reaction of people to our alliance, be it intel channels, enemies cooperating to fight us, and the new profession of privateer loot thiefs or whatever. Despite the lack of effectivness of these so far, these are things i didnt realy foresee. People have reacted to our reactions and we react to this in turn. Out of the priv alliance mclane, you are gonna have to work VERY hard to come up with anything innovative TBH I think however this war dec was intended to be a bit of fun so peeps should take it in that spirit. I hope it dosent go on for to long though. SKUNK
Inquis Eisenhorn Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.01 06:12:00 - [29] Now youll pay for killing my abaddon. the x is my sig A ships a fool to fight a station
Ronin Reborn Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.04.01 07:33:00 - [30] This isn't the first time Jmc has left a corp only to immediately war-dec it, he did it to dark-rising as well. In all seriousness Jmc, form your own corp/alliance and keep it where you're the one in charge as it doesnt seem like youll ever be happy NOT being the #1 shot caller. Thats all fine and well but you need to understand that if you do join an established organization youll have to work your way up and will probably never reach the very #1 spot as thats occupied by someone that spends more time in a corp than you typically do. And the word youre looking for is morals, not morale.

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