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Xscaped Pensioner Trident Industries	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:38:00 - [271] Originally by: Butter Dog I don't think anyone is doubting that an Aeon was in build at the 'other' POS. But this thread doesnt deliver any proof that the other POS was empty, aside from an easily photoshopped screenshot. A leviathan BPO was sold - it was apparently in production.... so where is it? It would be due for delivery around now. Unless this makes an appearance on a battlefield 'soon' I'm not inclined to believe the claims that the POS was empty. If however, a Leviathan pops up soon-ish, well, quite clearly this is the proof which would put any reasonable doubts to rest. Butter***** THE QUEEN IS NOT SIG MATERIAL SORT YOURSELF OUT ,yeah I am english and do appreciate our Monarch being used in such a manner.
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:39:00 - [272] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Butter Dog I don't think anyone is doubting that an Aeon was in build at the 'other' POS. But this thread doesnt deliver any proof that the other POS was empty, aside from an easily photoshopped screenshot. A leviathan BPO was sold - it was apparently in production.... so where is it? It would be due for delivery around now. Unless this makes an appearance on a battlefield 'soon' I'm not inclined to believe the claims that the POS was empty. If however, a Leviathan pops up soon-ish, well, quite clearly this is the proof which would put any reasonable doubts to rest. Butter, for doubt to be reasonable it has to be based on some kind of reason. So far there is no proof of any such reason, including your thought that because the bpo was bought means it was immediately being manufactured. You talk in suppositions not of reason. You're quite correct. I'm basically not sure what to believe about this situation, though we all know BoB excel at spin. I don't believe though, that someone would spend 63bn on a Leviathan BPO and not put it into production... ----------
Jordan Musgrat Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:40:00 - [273] Nice BOB. Keep up teh good work. If you won't believe Molle, there is no way that you will ever know for sure. He is probably one of less than 10 people that knows what that pos was building... There is no coalition that can give anything more substantial than what Molle can give. See you on the field, been fun lately. ----------- Primary is family values, secondary is 0.0...
Vannilla Venom Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:40:00 - [274] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Butter Dog I don't think anyone is doubting that an Aeon was in build at the 'other' POS. But this thread doesnt deliver any proof that the other POS was empty, aside from an easily photoshopped screenshot. A leviathan BPO was sold - it was apparently in production.... so where is it? It would be due for delivery around now. Unless this makes an appearance on a battlefield 'soon' I'm not inclined to believe the claims that the POS was empty. If however, a Leviathan pops up soon-ish, well, quite clearly this is the proof which would put any reasonable doubts to rest. Butter, for doubt to be reasonable it has to be based on some kind of reason. So far there is no proof of any such reason, including your thought that because the bpo was bought means it was immediately being manufactured. You talk in suppositions not of reason. You think it's reasonable that Molle is telling the truth? I'm surprised you can talk at all with your tongue stuck firmly down the back of Molles trousers!Maybe some of what you got on stuck your tongue has got in your eyes.
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:40:00 - [275] Originally by: Drake Mezcal Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Drake Mezcal Edited by: Drake Mezcal on 02/04/2007 18:29:08 I do apologise i know nothing about this topic, Hypothetical situation, 200 BOB jump onto test server, gang up, setup pos whatever, Take screenshot Edit time in bottom left (easily done, copy/paste with replica date and cleaned up a bit) Possible?? proveable?? I hear the new T3 tinfoil hats will be out soon as well. And i hate ar5e'holes like you. Bad day at work snookums?
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:42:00 - [276] Originally by: Vannilla Venom Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Butter Dog I don't think anyone is doubting that an Aeon was in build at the 'other' POS. But this thread doesnt deliver any proof that the other POS was empty, aside from an easily photoshopped screenshot. A leviathan BPO was sold - it was apparently in production.... so where is it? It would be due for delivery around now. Unless this makes an appearance on a battlefield 'soon' I'm not inclined to believe the claims that the POS was empty. If however, a Leviathan pops up soon-ish, well, quite clearly this is the proof which would put any reasonable doubts to rest. Butter, for doubt to be reasonable it has to be based on some kind of reason. So far there is no proof of any such reason, including your thought that because the bpo was bought means it was immediately being manufactured. You talk in suppositions not of reason. You think it's reasonable that Molle is telling the truth? I'm surprised you can talk at all with your tongue stuck firmly down the back of Molles trousers!Maybe some of what you got on stuck your tongue has got in your eyes. Post with you main?
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:42:00 - [277] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Drake Mezcal Edited by: Drake Mezcal on 02/04/2007 18:29:08 I do apologise i know nothing about this topic, Hypothetical situation, 200 BOB jump onto test server, gang up, setup pos whatever, Take screenshot Edit time in bottom left (easily done, copy/paste with replica date and cleaned up a bit) Possible?? proveable?? I hear the new T3 tinfoil hats will be out soon as well. Ah there it is the old standby insult used by BoB or its pets. The same was used when ASCN said BoB was getting help from Devs. So basically if we think BoB is dishonest (even though they have proven to be so)we need Tinfoil. Once its been proven its not paranoia anymore.
Drake Mezcal eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:44:00 - [278] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Drake Mezcal Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Drake Mezcal Edited by: Drake Mezcal on 02/04/2007 18:29:08 I do apologise i know nothing about this topic, Hypothetical situation, 200 BOB jump onto test server, gang up, setup pos whatever, Take screenshot Edit time in bottom left (easily done, copy/paste with replica date and cleaned up a bit) Possible?? proveable?? I hear the new T3 tinfoil hats will be out soon as well. And i hate ar5e'holes like you. Bad day at work snookums? Nah not really, I just wish work was the only place im surrounded in people licking the bosses hoop.
BorisThe Blade Amarr Dicken's Cider	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:45:00 - [279] Originally by: Drake Mezcal garbage er.. dude STFU close the browser
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:46:00 - [280] Originally by: Drake Mezcal Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Drake Mezcal Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Drake Mezcal Edited by: Drake Mezcal on 02/04/2007 18:29:08 I do apologise i know nothing about this topic, Hypothetical situation, 200 BOB jump onto test server, gang up, setup pos whatever, Take screenshot Edit time in bottom left (easily done, copy/paste with replica date and cleaned up a bit) Possible?? proveable?? I hear the new T3 tinfoil hats will be out soon as well. And i hate ar5e'holes like you. Bad day at work snookums? Nah not really, I just wish work was the only place im surrounded in people licking the bosses hoop. At least your attempt at comedy went somewhere here. I honestly lick no one's hoop. If you do not believe that, simply ask around.
Indiano Arko Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:47:00 - [281] Originally by: Boliknar Originally by: maarud Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Before fight: First shipyard - empty. Second shipyard - in build. After fight: One shipyard remains - building (BoB perspective) One shipyard remains - building (Coalition perspective) Builder's screens: Day after battle - one shipyard left. My jobs - Aeon Blueprint. I'm told there will be fraps posted shortly for the unbelievers. Will you shut up now Nez, or is this not good enough? Photoshop FTW look at the pixels around the word "now" kinda sad job too Those pixels are an artifacts of low quality JPEG compression. Go into science, open Installation, select Current regions, select any station with available installation, hit Prt Scrn. In CCP\EVE\Capture\Screenshots find a screenshot, open it and zoom like 400+%. You will see same pixels around word Now. JPEG compression artifacts.
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:49:00 - [282] Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 02/04/2007 18:45:43 Originally by: Boliknar Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Drake Mezcal Edited by: Drake Mezcal on 02/04/2007 18:29:08 I do apologise i know nothing about this topic, Hypothetical situation, 200 BOB jump onto test server, gang up, setup pos whatever, Take screenshot Edit time in bottom left (easily done, copy/paste with replica date and cleaned up a bit) Possible?? proveable?? I hear the new T3 tinfoil hats will be out soon as well. Ah there it is the old standby insult used by BoB or its pets. The same was used when ASCN said BoB was getting help from Devs. So basically if we think BoB is dishonest (even though they have proven to be so)we need Tinfoil. Once its been proven its not paranoia anymore. Was it BoB that was dishonest or the dev? I know it is tough to take, is it not? Regarding the insult, if what is proposed is possible, then why have not the Coalition printed screenshots that dispute this one? #1
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:51:00 - [283] Originally by: Indiano Arko Originally by: Boliknar Originally by: maarud Originally by: Arenis Xemdal Before fight: First shipyard - empty. Second shipyard - in build. After fight: One shipyard remains - building (BoB perspective) One shipyard remains - building (Coalition perspective) Builder's screens: Day after battle - one shipyard left. My jobs - Aeon Blueprint. I'm told there will be fraps posted shortly for the unbelievers. Will you shut up now Nez, or is this not good enough? Photoshop FTW look at the pixels around the word "now" kinda sad job too Those pixels are an artifacts of low quality JPEG compression. Go into science, open Installation, select Current regions, select any station with available installation, hit Prt Scrn. In CCP\EVE\Capture\Screenshots find a screenshot, open it and zoom like 400+%. You will see same pixels around word Now. JPEG compression artifacts. OMG, another person with a clue. Same as what my friend basically said. Thanks for the actually constructive input. I am in your debt.
Cmd Woodlouse moon7empler Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:52:00 - [284] omg u all should enjoy RL more often --------------------------------
Randay 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:52:00 - [285] lolz potato.
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:54:00 - [286] Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 02/04/2007 18:50:51 Originally by: Randay lolz potato. Randay, my love, I miss you. To Cmdr Woodlouse: I run my own business so I spend my time as I feel appropriate. Today, that is debunking the Coalition claims. Tomorrow, who know?
Rj Indael	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:56:00 - [287] With all the screenshots and other things, it should be no problem to post a screenshot of the aeon :)
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:56:00 - [288] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 02/04/2007 18:45:43 Originally by: Boliknar Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Originally by: Drake Mezcal Edited by: Drake Mezcal on 02/04/2007 18:29:08 I do apologise i know nothing about this topic, Hypothetical situation, 200 BOB jump onto test server, gang up, setup pos whatever, Take screenshot Edit time in bottom left (easily done, copy/paste with replica date and cleaned up a bit) Possible?? proveable?? I hear the new T3 tinfoil hats will be out soon as well. Ah there it is the old standby insult used by BoB or its pets. The same was used when ASCN said BoB was getting help from Devs. So basically if we think BoB is dishonest (even though they have proven to be so)we need Tinfoil. Once its been proven its not paranoia anymore. Was it BoB that was dishonest or the dev? I know it is tough to take, is it not? Regarding the insult, if what is proposed is possible, then why have not the Coalition printed screenshots that dispute this one? #1 The dev was in BoB was he? Even in a rather prominent position as well if I remeber. Did the alliance profit from the he offenders actions for more that eight months afetr the offense? ok lets look at it this way...if it was a trap...It would not have been nearl as effective without he system cap helping it out...so knowing that BoB is the be all and end all of PVP and they never ever do anything without a 100% cahance of success they obviously knew that the system cap would be in effect otherwise they would have never laid the trap.
Lungorthin Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:56:00 - [289] Originally by: Boliknar Photoshop FTW look at the pixels around the word "now" kinda sad job too I wish to break the forum silence regarding war matters to clarify this technical issue that I happen to know about. I happen to have studied lossless (e.g. GIF) and lossy (e.g. JPG) compression of images. A JPG image creates what some call a "compression artifact" (Wikipedia Link to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_artifact If you look at the first picture you will notice this "pixel noise" (compression artifact) not only around the word "now" but pretty much around all words, and even around the icons on the menu bar on the left hand side. I quote from Wikipedia When using the Discrete Cosine Transform for block-based coding, as in JPEG-compressed images, several types of artifacts can appear, including contouring and posterizing in otherwise smooth gradients, staircase noise along curving edges, "mosquito noise" around edges, and/or checkerboarding in "busy" regions (sometimes called quilting or blockiness). It is a known issue of JPG compression. I simply creates noise in areas that were smooth before compression, particularly around hard lines. In the end believe what you want, but be aware of the effects on graphics that have been JPEG compressed. Cheers.
Cmd Woodlouse moon7empler Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.02 18:56:00 - [290] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 02/04/2007 18:50:51 Originally by: Randay lolz potato. Randay, my love, I miss you. To Cmdr Woodlouse: I run my own business so I spend my time as I feel appropriate. Today, that is debunking the Coalition claims. Tomorrow, who know? I run my own business aswell and i still give you the friendly advice to not care to much about this here - trust me, years of forumwhorage is talking to you. Its a waste of time --------------------------------
Adam Weishaupt Minmatar Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:01:00 - [291] Originally by: SirMolle Delivery Either way, BOB has demonstrated two things. 1) The ability to extract a massive toll for any significant loss on their own part. 2) The ability EITHER to pull off elaborate deception ops capable of extracting an unprecedented, one-sided victory, OR to convince/create doubt in the minds of a fair share of the game population that they are able to do so. Or, perhaps, both? If the Coalition recovers, coordinates, attacks over and over and over and somehow reverses the financial strain they're under...and finally, wins anyway, none of that will matter, and you can bet it's careful planners like SirMolle who appreciate that better than anybody. You can call those cheering this pets, brown nosers, whatever. That's fine. Things like this are why EVE is the finest game in the world, and I'm happy to praise cleverness no matter who it comes from. Because such things are -possible-. And the element of doubt is so realistic that it could have been ripped from any number of current events. Did they cross the border or didn't they? Did they have the weapons of mass destruction or didn't they? Who are you going to believe? Why? All part of the game. Congratulations on an unprecedented victory, BOB.
Rjindael Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:06:00 - [292] Test Server FTW :)
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:06:00 - [293] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 02/04/2007 18:50:51 Originally by: Randay lolz potato. Randay, my love, I miss you. To Cmdr Woodlouse: I run my own business so I spend my time as I feel appropriate. Today, that is debunking the Coalition claims. Tomorrow, who know? I run my own business aswell and i still give you the friendly advice to not care to much about this here - trust me, years of forumwhorage is talking to you. Its a waste of time Sadly, I have to agree with you on that one. I just felt today like I needed to post. Not sure why. I am sure the bug will dissipate rapidly.
Lucututerian Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:09:00 - [294] just wondering how long you take to post this thread,to build an picture takes a time so i understand you, you have to build a new one where we can see something, baybe then few ppl belive you, lool. WAR IS ****, BUT THE SOUND IS COOL!!
Nathin Ames Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:10:00 - [295] You want the proof..... Wait till BoB's newest AEON kills you... Would that be proof enough or do we need to tatoo it on your head?
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:10:00 - [296] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Edited by: Yodaron Ballsithor on 02/04/2007 18:50:51 Originally by: Randay lolz potato. Randay, my love, I miss you. To Cmdr Woodlouse: I run my own business so I spend my time as I feel appropriate. Today, that is debunking the Coalition claims. Tomorrow, who know? I run my own business aswell and i still give you the friendly advice to not care to much about this here - trust me, years of forumwhorage is talking to you. Its a waste of time - Gob
Juha85 Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:13:00 - [297] They could just assemble all their aeons together and get a fraps of that... would that be enough proof to you? Probably not. Then again, why does bob have to prove anything? They stated what happened and its up to you if you will believe it or not. It doesnt matter to them if you do or not...
Isonkon Serikain Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:16:00 - [298] Best thread of the week... BoB & co > We did it again Coalition > OMG haxploit, again! My next prediction: Leviathan announcement, or better yet, Leviathan DDD at a coalition system near you... Your signature is inappropriate. Please email us with a link to your signature to find out why. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
PMBhauler Pod Me Beautiful	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:19:00 - [299] My only question Why take 4+ days to release a statement with proof instead of right away? Tin foil hat time......because they needed to generate the fake pictures. If they had pictures and wanted to gain credibility....IMMEDIATELY upon the shipyard being destroyed BOB should have posted said proof. Posting it now makes it look fake and damage control driven. Whatever whats the point....nobody will believe BOD anyway. Coalition will always believe that a titan was destroyed no matter what people say, proof that is faked etc.
Baymm Shadow Gypsies R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:20:00 - [300] I have no idea what really happened. I am ok with that. However, SirMolle has provided additional evidence to substantiate the argument that in fact no titan was building in the POS. I believe the Coalition could go a long ways to helping us judge the credibility of their argument if they would disclose what information they have that a titan was being built in the POS. Surely there is some information that can be made public beyond a leviation BPO being purchased some months back? Baymm Shadow Gypsies Rise

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