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Baymm Shadow Gypsies R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:21:00 - [301] Originally by: PMBhauler My only question Why take 4+ days to release a statement with proof instead of right away? Tin foil hat time......because they needed to generate the fake pictures. If they had pictures and wanted to gain credibility....IMMEDIATELY upon the shipyard being destroyed BOB should have posted said proof. Posting it now makes it look fake and damage control driven. Whatever whats the point....nobody will believe BOD anyway. Coalition will always believe that a titan was destroyed no matter what people say, proof that is faked etc. Well, this point is dismissed easily. Why would they bother to annouce it 4 days ago when a Mothership was in the cooker and the coalition could come back and abort it? Baymm Shadow Gypsies Rise
Rjindael Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:23:00 - [302] Edited by: Rjindael on 02/04/2007 19:23:08 I think BoB have to tell the public that there was no titan in the POS because some people will leave bob alone and change to the other site. So BoB have to do propaganda that the other corps still think, that BoB is the winner in this war, if more corps fight against them or cancel trades with them, they have to less support for this war. At the moment they start new wars with hiring merc corps to bother the coaliation in the empire and they do propaganda that tehy dont lose ther partners. It all depends at the people if they realy belive what BoB is telling them. Like in the second World War, as all Germans got telled that they are winnig in Russia, but in real they got there ass kicked. P.S.: And if there are a ready titan, why they post the pictures of the POS and not from the titan in space ?
Karunel Princeps Corp YouWhat	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:26:00 - [303] Stop. Making. RL. Comparisons. With. EVE. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:26:00 - [304] Originally by: Nathin Ames You want the proof..... Wait till BoB's newest AEON kills you... Would that be proof enough or do we need to tatoo it on your head? To be fair, the contents of the 'other' POS have absolutely no effect on the contents of the one which was destroyed. I'm not even sure why it is being mentioned. A thought diversion, perhaps. ----------
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:27:00 - [305] Originally by: Adam Weishaupt Originally by: SirMolle Delivery Either way, BOB has demonstrated two things. 1) The ability to extract a massive toll for any significant loss on their own part. 2) The ability EITHER to pull off elaborate deception ops capable of extracting an unprecedented, one-sided victory, OR to convince/create doubt in the minds of a fair share of the game population that they are able to do so. Or, perhaps, both? If the Coalition recovers, coordinates, attacks over and over and over and somehow reverses the financial strain they're under...and finally, wins anyway, none of that will matter, and you can bet it's careful planners like SirMolle who appreciate that better than anybody. You can call those cheering this pets, brown nosers, whatever. That's fine. Things like this are why EVE is the finest game in the world, and I'm happy to praise cleverness no matter who it comes from. Because such things are -possible-. And the element of doubt is so realistic that it could have been ripped from any number of current events. Did they cross the border or didn't they? Did they have the weapons of mass destruction or didn't they? Who are you going to believe? Why? All part of the game. Congratulations on an unprecedented victory, BOB. Ok here is someone speaking about issues of which he no clue. What opray tell is this financial strain you assume the north is under? What proof do you have? Oh yeah thats right none! We are just supposed to assume the north is under financial strain because well not one could stand up to your Demi-gods BoB for such a long time without being under strain is that it? Man the sycophantic suck ups in this thread are just incredible.
Tenos Del'Vaas The Knights Templar	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:34:00 - [306] Maybe Im missing something but how did they build an Aeon in an Advanced Large Ship Assembly Array?
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:35:00 - [307] Edited by: Boliknar on 02/04/2007 19:31:35 nvm
Cleonius BoBo Corp Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:35:00 - [308] Originally by: Tenos Del'Vaas Maybe Im missing something but how did they build an Aeon in an Advanced Large Ship Assembly Array? Nobody can. But it's quite possible to build an Aeon in a Capital Array that has been named "Advanced Large Ship Assembly Array".
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:37:00 - [309] BoB & friends must outnumber the coalition by now so its effectively over. This cap yard business is the ultimate morale blow and numbers will likely continue to rise on BoB's side and fall on the coalitions side. It seems everyone wants a piece of their victory. Why? Because most of Eve is spineless, can't beat 'em join 'em eh? To the members of the coalition I salute you for making the first serious effort to remove them. Guess we all got fooled into thinking they had no sympathy outside of xelasfixmc. "Next!"
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:37:00 - [310] Originally by: Tenos Del'Vaas Maybe Im missing something but how did they build an Aeon in an Advanced Large Ship Assembly Array? They're didn't, you can rename shipyards to show up under a different name in the management screen. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]

Wyehr Shadow Of The Light R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:39:00 - [311] Originally by: Lungorthin It is a known issue of JPG compression. I simply creates noise in areas that were smooth before compression, particularly around hard lines. In the end believe what you want, but be aware of the effects on graphics that have been JPEG compressed. Cheers. If they were taken in high quality mode, they should be (gigantic) bitmaps and could be converted to PNG and reposted. -- stop reading if you know how JPEGs work, or if you don't care to -- JPEG was designed for photographs of the real world, not for line art or computer graphics. DCT is very similar to FFT, so if you know how MP3s work, JPEG is pretty easy to follow. The very, very short version is that instead of storing levels at every sample point (PCM does this for audio data, bitmaps do this for visual data), you store the frequency data needed to approximately reconstruct the original. Once you are looking at the data in this new way, you find that you can now throw out parts of the data that won't be missed by a human. In the frequency domain, a sharp line is the sum of an infinite number of harmonics, just like a square wave is the sum of all the odd harmonics of the fundamental. If you chop off the harmonic series before the wavelength gets to a single pixel, you get artifacts like that. If you do let the series go all the way out, you can store the exact image, but then you are probably looking at a larger file than when you started. [ 2007.03.18 18:45:59 ] (notify) Typhoon belonging to Gandolf self-destructs.
Heilongjiang YASA.	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:40:00 - [312] How will the Coalition adapt to this result,this i'm more interested in than pages and pages of blatant stroking. In fact this whole thread makes me want to vomit.. Another steaming pileup
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:41:00 - [313] Originally by: Drag Queen Originally by: Juha85 They could just assemble all their aeons together and get a fraps of that... would that be enough proof to you? Probably not. Then again, why does bob have to prove anything? They stated what happened and its up to you if you will believe it or not. It doesnt matter to them if you do or not... Potentially the first sensible thing said on this thread. Gratz BoB - nice trap This analogy would only work if BoB would be taking heavy losses like the Germans and telling their allies that they are winning the war. You know, like the coalition is doing.
Securion Wolfheart Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:42:00 - [314] 42 dreads and 5 carriers destroyed...? Do ppl realise how much of a LOSS that is? Its an INSANE loss. Its unbelivable. Its THE BIGGEST LOSS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF EVE. How many hours of ratting and mining are 42 dreads btw? ;) And if you still wont belive the evidence... well... then no evidence can make you belive. -----====----- Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done.

Elmo Pug Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:47:00 - [315] Thread cleaned up to this point...some off-topic, trolling, and flame posts removed. Please keep it civil, and leave real-life comparisons and political commentary out. Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website

welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:48:00 - [316] Originally by: Securion Wolfheart 42 dreads and 5 carriers destroyed...? Do ppl realise how much of a LOSS that is? Its an INSANE loss. Its unbelivable. Its THE BIGGEST LOSS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF EVE. How many hours of ratting and mining are 42 dreads btw? ;) And if you still wont belive the evidence... well... then no evidence can make you belive. Yes but having to read endless gloating posts from people who had little to do with any of it is just as tiring as reading "BoB are devs!" posts.
chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:49:00 - [317] Good job, well played Bob ----------------- Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Rinaw Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:50:00 - [318] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Nathin Ames You want the proof..... Wait till BoB's newest AEON kills you... Would that be proof enough or do we need to tatoo it on your head? To be fair, the contents of the 'other' POS have absolutely no effect on the contents of the one which was destroyed. I'm not even sure why it is being mentioned. A thought diversion, perhaps. U frakking dump or what?? because 1 of the ship yards was not building !!! Image, before blow up U can see it here or go read the 45 pages post where even the coalition says that 1 of the 2cap ship yards was building and the other was empty. SO, if the one that survived HAD the aeon on it it was cos the other one was frakking empty !!!! ffs learn to read. Goons had recognized that they attacked the wrong post, cos the spy looked at the jobs and ohhh frakk, now theres 1 cap yard and it has the timer 2 days ago , go read the scraphead forums!!! Evil thug posted a screenshot on the aprils fool post by molle showing that the remaining cap yard still had a countdown. What more do you need?? ohh and : After destroying the cap ship yard JPEG without compresion ^^^ remember 1 empty 1 full, ohh look the one NOT destroyed have a timer
nickky01 The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:50:00 - [319] Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Securion Wolfheart 42 dreads and 5 carriers destroyed...? Do ppl realise how much of a LOSS that is? Its an INSANE loss. Its unbelivable. Its THE BIGGEST LOSS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF EVE. How many hours of ratting and mining are 42 dreads btw? ;) And if you still wont belive the evidence... well... then no evidence can make you belive. Yes but having to read endless gloating posts from people who had little to do with any of it is just as tiring as reading "BoB are devs!" posts. qft there
Fabrezio Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:52:00 - [320] Lies make baby jesus cry!

Iva Soreass FireStar Inc	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:55:00 - [321] Well the bandwaggoners can claim one thing out of that battle, they now hold the title of the MOST cap ships lost in one engagement \o/ Grats ----------------------------------------------- My sig got nerf'd again :*( this time by Valorem.
Agillae Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:58:00 - [322] snip Posting with an unidentified character and / or characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. -Elmo Pug ([email protected]) ------------ When not succeeding, redefine success.
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:59:00 - [323] "How many hours of ratting and mining are 42 dreads btw? ;)" Thats a good question but a better one is how many hours of 10/10 plexing... The answer in that case can be counted in single digit days.
Leomund Sardis	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:59:00 - [324] Elmo, OP Banner should be modded. Yeah, I'm an alt. Delete my post when you see it. Thanks.
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:00:00 - [325] Originally by: welsh wizard BoB & friends must outnumber the coalition by now so its effectively over. This cap yard business is the ultimate morale blow and numbers will likely continue to rise on BoB's side and fall on the coalitions side. It seems everyone wants a piece of their victory. Why? Because most of Eve is spineless, can't beat 'em join 'em eh? To the members of the coalition I salute you for making the first serious effort to remove them. Guess we all got fooled into thinking they had no sympathy outside of xelasfixmc. "Next!" Where is this out pouring of support from general Eve community? There is none. The peo[le stroking BoB on this thread are the ones who have been doing so since the beginning.
Karunel Princeps Corp YouWhat	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:02:00 - [326] Quote: To the members of the coalition I salute you for making the first serious effort to remove them. Guess we all got fooled into thinking they had no sympathy outside of xelasfixmc. Well I don't see any fat lady around yet, and I'm certainly hoping she won't show up for a while- as are, I hope, most of EVE players who are enjoying the pew pew inmensely. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:02:00 - [327] Originally by: Securion Wolfheart 42 dreads and 5 carriers destroyed...? Do ppl realise how much of a LOSS that is? Its an INSANE loss. Its unbelivable. Its THE BIGGEST LOSS EVER IN THE HISTORY OF EVE. How many hours of ratting and mining are 42 dreads btw? ;) There were many alliances involved, I made a quick sum of all the people in them and came to 15620. If we say that only half of those people are active and half of them are completely inactive then we come to 7810 people who can work towards those 42 dreads. I say that a dread costs 2 bil (insurance payout doesn't count because you have to insure the dread again and then the money is gone again). The 42 dreads would then cost 84 bil isk. 84 bil isk / 7810 people = 10.7 mil / person. Now asume that you can make 20 mil/hour in 0.0 (I can make 10 mil/hour in high sec) with ratting. Then you need all the people work for half an hour to replace the worth of the 42 dreads. Indeed, an impressive victory!
Xyntya Tayoko ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:03:00 - [328] Great job BoB Your victory clearly shows that tactics >> lame zerg. I want to see at last 10 coalition cap ships killed every day
Baymm Shadow Gypsies R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:05:00 - [329] Edited by: Baymm on 02/04/2007 20:02:25 Stroking Bob? If D2 or someone in the Coalition could offer any evidence that they killed a titan, I imagine most everyone would say "good job". But they haven't offered any proof at all. Bob has offered evidence to support their claim and the evidence is pretty convincing that other coalition pilots are agreeing. Instead of maligning people as "stroking Bob", maybe you should call on the Coalition to produce the evidence that there was a titan in that POS. Surely, they had to have some belief it was there, no? Well, what evidence convinced them to make this attack? Baymm Shadow Gypsies Rise
Juha85 Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.04.02 20:06:00 - [330] Originally by: Farham "How many hours of ratting and mining are 42 dreads btw? ;)" Thats a good question but a better one is how many hours of 10/10 plexing... The answer in that case can be counted in single digit days. Umm... 42 dreads, 3bil each atleast if fitted correctly. 126bil? in 9 days that would still make 14bil per day. Depends on the amount of plexes and its still a ****load... :P



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