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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.04.03 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 03/04/2007 14:55:47
Edited by: Death Kill on 03/04/2007 14:54:18
Well not mining of corse, people need their minerals and all of that, but I mean agent missions. Let's talk about the pros and cons.
Pro :
-less lag as mindless carebear drones would quit and go back to WOW.
-less lag
-less lag
and less lag.
Cons :
Dunno really. Blueprints etc can be offered when you have killed x amount of players or whatever. Or.........everyone can buy blueprints like with t1.
Dunno.
But since EVE is a true PVP game then mission who...ehh runners should be removed.
edit : Remove missions, add more complexes and move them all to low sec. Lots of mission runners migrating to low sec = more targets for pirates but their numbers would make then HARDER targets. Win-win situasion.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
Phobos Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:01:00 -
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all i have to say is wow... and not the game.
this has to be a BS post, if not.. don your flame suit.. they are inc.
My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:) |
Brolly
Caldari
Morphic field
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:05:00 -
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/me collapses due to brain being overloaded by utter BS
Wow, speak about looking through the eye of a needle 
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Diicc Tater
Aggressive Tendencies
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Diicc Tater on 03/04/2007 15:02:43
simple..
no whines
no carebears to pop
no mission wh**es to harras
and
No more plex wh**ring for a ceRtain Alliance
yep. plex = PvE
would be a very boring game.
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Korcahn
Gallente
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:07:00 -
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Some might move to low-sec, I guess. But most would just leave the game.
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:08:00 -
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why not convert CCP to PVE and remove all PVP. 
 Originally by: Dark Shikari
Anyone comparing CCP to a glacier is really not being fair to the glacier.
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:09:00 -
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You also are wrong 
LEss lag in every day useage? Maybe. Less lag for fleet battles, alliance warfare, etc? Not.
The problem with lag is the software/database, not PvE. Even if you kicked everyone but the ships that were going to take place in that last blob you STILL would have lagged out.
I say get rid of alliances. Its obvious that they are creating node-crashing lag that PvE does NOT create. In addition they KNOW they are creating it and purposely using that lag as a combat tactic, hence are guilty of purposely crashing the servers and violating the EULA 
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Phena
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:10:00 -
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Sure, then you could lose a large chunk of the profit the game makes, then the company could shut down, then you would never have to worry about lag as there would be no game to have lag.
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:13:00 -
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Theyre better off banning players with ideas like this
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:17:00 -
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Your changes aren't enough to combat the ever-increasing lag present in EVE. There's only one real solution: The removal of gates altogether.
Think about how awesome it would be!
-Mission runners would be isolated in their little carebeary world, forced to do those lame PvE things with CRAPtacular agents LOLZ.
-All those traders would have nothing to do anymore so they could just go back to being dumb in real life. Go effect the WoW economy, nubs.
-No jumpqueues!!!!won
-All alliances would have to build capital ships to invade other alliances and expand n stuff, which sounds like a great idea to me! If there's one thing we don't see enough of right now it's capital ships by FAR. Bigger guns = More awesome ness but not in a *** way. Because i'm totallie not ***. SRSLY.
-Much stronger sense of community in systems. Everyone love local chat, rite?
I really don't see any potential downside to this, really.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 03/04/2007 15:14:34
The game would lose a lot of its content, not only the npcs, but every aspect where npc drops are involved.
Left would be a bit pvp, mining and production/industry that doesn't require npc drops.
Sounds a bit boring. Less stuff I can do and less targets to hunt, kill, ransom.
And I don't want to pvp all day long like in a shooter. I like the mix.
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Elienee
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:26:00 -
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Death kill must be joking, I really cant take his post serious. 
But to those who claim EVE is a PVP game only, havent got a clue what they are talking about. If there are people like Death kill out there, who wants PVP only, why not play FPS games instead? So in return telling us carebears to go and play WoW, I suggest those hardcore PVP players go and play counterstrike instead, if EVE doesnt suit them |
Hamfast
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:29:00 -
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I fear you are a bit late, this would be a good post got April Fools day.
Noob in training...
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Jastra
Gallente
Gallente Venture Inc
Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:29:00 -
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I am not a mindless drone and I've never played WOW
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Exlegion
New Light
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:30:00 -
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Ban PVE = Less lag
Is it really just that simple to you?
I'd hate to be your business partner.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
edit : Remove missions, add more complexes and move them all to low sec. Lots of mission runners migrating to low sec = more targets for pirates but their numbers would make then HARDER targets. Win-win situasion.
So you're saying
Missions = bad pve.
Complexes = good pve.
I'll give ya 1/10 on the troll-a-meter.
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:35:00 -
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I hate missions.
If people want to waste there lives even more then by just playing MMO, but playing a MMO in the most boring way possible, who am I to care?
They can stay there...im having fun elsewhere.
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Spoon Thumb
Khanid Aerospace Group
Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:37:00 -
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On the plus side, no nightmare for you (like i see you have in your bio picture) since no one can get it since no agents or anyhting anymore
Khaldari
Research Services
BPO Shop
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Roy Batty68
I'll give ya 1/10 on the troll-a-meter.
Nah, its more like his ickle brain has worked out that if he directly calls for a nerf to high sec missions he will be ignored.
So he tries to dress up his gimme more easy targets post as a lag solution post. Which will be ignored.
Personally, I would like to see less NPCs in the game, but I would start by removing the static complexes.
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:37:00 -
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How about they remove grief.. erm pirates instead?
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar
Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:43:00 -
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Might as well feed the troll seeing as I've got nothing better to do at the moment.....
[feed troll]
Eve is a game. It has many aspects, all of which are available to every subscriber. Just because it's big and clever to PvP endlessly, doesn't mean everyone has to do it.
I pay for the game, and I'll play it how I want.
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Drone Love - My skills
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Mesacc
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:43:00 -
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You remove PVE and you kill EVE. Like it or not, agree with it or not, PVE is part of the game. You take that away, you will lose half the subscribers at first, then later on when all the blood thirsty PVPers run out of folks to kill you will lose the rest. Theres a balance to things. You cant take away one without it effecting the other.
As for lag...Thats part of any MMO. Removing gate bookmarks were supposed to reduce lag but its worse than ever now. Its not gonna go away.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:43:00 -
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I'm not rich enough to PvP without stopping for a bit every now and then to replace ships.
PvE content is less boring than mining.
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Mastin Dragonfly
Absolutely No Return
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:47:00 -
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Remove PvE will make a lot of ppl quit, less ppl playing is less ppl paying is no more new shiny PvP stuff for you cause CCP won't have enough $$$ to pay their devs.
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Dread Operative
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:52:00 -
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Killing carebears is fun. You can't kill carebears without carebears. PvE  carebears.
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:53:00 -
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Let.
It.
Die.
This thread merits NO further response.
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Vasiliyan
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
But since EVE is a true PVP game then mission who...ehh runners should be removed.
This isn't very well thought out, is it? Do you earn all your money from PvP? Where do you get your stuff from?
Fleet battles are also a major cause of lag, so we should ban them as well, by your rationale...
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Qwi Wealth
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Posted - 2007.04.03 15:56:00 -
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clap clap to the OP.
To have even less lag, we can also suggest removing markets and contract system. Everyone will need to use trade window when docked in station. Thet would be nice as we will be able to meet each other in person.
As PvP drones do not lag at all (only do that the PvE drones), I suggest to include as violation of EULA launching a drone if u plan to do anything else than attacking other player.
If there will be no drops from PvE, we will also remove all named stuff. That's good! less items means less lag.
I think we can also force miners to have at least 50% offensive guns. I suggest also to add as violation of EULA fitting a miner ship just for mining.
Haulers, freighters and all the ships that can't fit weapons on highs should also be removed. They lag!
In fact, we will remove all ppl that hates PvP but plays EVE. That would be good against lag! less people means less lag, however, CCP will not like it so much, because they will have less monthly income, but... who cares?
That lets us 3 kinds of people: the ones that are killing each other, the ones that are producing items for the killers, and the ones that gets materials to produce items for the killers. That will let the PvP people in top of the pyramid! nice.
Things that do not lag at all like 1000 ppl fleets shold be encouraged. In fact, I suggest to ban all people that deserves to fly alone or in packs of less than 50 guys.
Cheers.
Qwi.
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Ashturi Nagano
Mantigen Quanta
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Posted - 2007.04.03 16:10:00 -
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I am a bit curious how this would help anything. Let's say that this happened. Let's say that all PvE (besides mining) was removed. What would happen? Within a short time (maybe two weeks), not only would many people have left, but all the money in the game is...gone. NO PvE means: No 'plexes. No rats. Only PvP...which, in case you haven't noticed, doesn't really give out money on any kind of regular basis. Which means that we could get rid of belts, because noone would be able to afford anything anymore, which means that everyone (and I mean everyone) who plays would eventually end up in the starter ship with their n00b gun and mining turret. Of course, they could overhaul the entire game to do that, but what would replace it? Wampum? Wait, no, that was money, too. Gold? Wait, same as money. I suppose everyone COULD do a straight item exchange...minerals for whatever. But then, it's no longer a PvP game, but about half mining, half killing. So...even MORE PvEers around, but this time, they're not even doing anything interesting...just mining.
I guess I just don't understand people who think that everything should be about PvP. Sure, this game has more PvP than most. But guess what? A lot of people play MMO games to socialize...not just to kill their fellow human beings (or digital avatars thereof). I'm sorry that you, apparently, are quite the anti-social psychotic.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.03 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Grey Area
Let.
It.
Die.
This thread merits NO further response.
Listen to this man!
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