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Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:27:00 - [31] Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix Now I don't know about the Arrow Projects loss. But 6 dread losses spread out amongst 4 alliances hardly seems all that notworthy. Hell no one from the battles last night even bothered to post about how badly BoB and Fix had gotten spanked. But I guess the propoganda machine must go on. Well considering people from your side post when they kill alone carrier then in conparison 6 dreads is quite a big thing :) Out of interest what was going on here? Fitted Lo Type : Expanded Cargohold II Quantity : 1 Btw how's the razor Fcing going?
Manoxtra Gallente Helios Incorporated	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:28:00 - [32] Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix Now I don't know about the Arrow Projects loss. But 6 dread losses spread out amongst 4 alliances hardly seems all that notworthy. Hell no one from the battles last night even bothered to post about how badly BoB and Fix had gotten spanked. But I guess the propoganda machine must go on. Yeah theres rumor BOB is collapsing? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Shufo ([email protected])
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:36:00 - [33] Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: Barkode Originally by: Kara Mori The thing is, these losses don't seem to be breaking Coalition spirit very much. Still, you can only lose so many decisive victories before you start to lose moral. Most of the rank and file coalition that I have talked with really just want to go back to doing what they were doing before the war. Alot of the guys on the front lines have been fighting a seemingly endless war since January and are getting bored. In that case the coalition has to blame only themselves/their mates, if they don't win this. Would be a bit rediculous: "Hah, let's all go kill evil BoB ! They don't deserve their 0.0 space anyway." "Bleh, takes longer than expected. That's not cool ! Let's go back to mining." "Aaarghh. Evil BoB knocks on our door again and tries to grab our space ! Evil chea... Why are they allowed to do this ?" was inevitable tbh coalition seems to lack effective overall command and control, apart from being able to put together a once-a-month uber-blob which makes their peens feel better which is a shame... would have been fun to watch a well co-ordinated force.... rather than the current 'lambs to the slaughter' ----------
Zaratuul Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:46:00 - [34] Originally by: darth solo the key to eve is by letting the enemy think they can win. You all need to bait BOB better.. attack pos structures and expect them to try and gank you, have a plan to counter the gank and use it, worst case senario is that they dont try and take you on and you kill the POS. after the first time they will be alot more cautious and maybe u can get more pos kills. its obvious that you can easilly outnumber BOB, use that to your advantage. d solo. Yeah... like you won/achieved anything in eve since 2003...
Gunship Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar How about making alliance tickers mandatory in CAOD, this is to benefit both sides btw Could not agree more, It would make this part of the forum much better. So you want to join us?
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:32:00 - [36] People wanted a battle report so here it is. I was on cyno duty as my cap was like 3 jumps out during this (:/), so I spent my time listening to what was going on among reports on TS. There are some fraps around also. The call went out that there were 6 dreads with little support shooting a PoS in H74, so we answered. We rounded up some support and dreads. We were asked to bring our 20-30ish support gang of mostly tacklers close to H74 and keep our dreads on standby. BoB was going to JB in their support fleet as well as a MS and carrier they had. We sent in our support and like brave little lemmings they started tackling. I'm not sure where the northern support is at this point, but they obviously didn't turn the tide of what was to come. The JB opened, and our dreads jumped in. One after the other the dreads go down. Rejoice. Because of our valliant service as bob pets molle gave us a wavier for 100mil of the 1billion Trit we are supposed to mine for BoB each month to live in their space. We still have to mine the same amount of pye however.
Raeff Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:39:00 - [37] Edited by: Raeff on 09/04/2007 13:41:46 nm it will probably only start a flame - deleted
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:41:00 - [38] Originally by: Troubadour Because of our valliant service as bob pets molle gave us a wavier for 100mil of the 1billion Trit we are supposed to mine for BoB each month to live in their space. We still have to mine the same amount of pye however. Oi! back to the belts with you. I didn't give you permission to read Eve-O while cycling your miners. I'm doubling your quota of veldspar for this week. Small correction to Troub's report though, the BoB fleet jump-bridges directly on top of the enemy dreads, friendly Exuro capital forces cynoed in separately but immediately afterward. Any claims of lag on the Coalition's capital side is utter falsehood, as proven by a few kills on the BoB killboard, and Exuro's own logs of taking fire from every single hostile dread pilot - to the point where one Naglfar began taking fire before even getting a lock on the hostiles. Travling, you and your buddies can claim lag all you wish, but you're not fooling anyone.
Izzy Pol Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:01:00 - [39] Originally by: Righteous Fury Travling, you and your buddies can claim lag all you wish, For ease of use please just use the template below. It has all your standard excuses and witty retorts in one convenient location. I lost MY ship because... - You are haxxing bastards [ ] - Lag [ ] - OMG blobbers [ ] - CTD [ ] - Weird bug (never happened before!) [ ] - Drunk [ ] - Stoned [ ] - Nekkid [ ] - All three of the above [ ] But it's OK - We'll keep fighting the evil cheats [ ] - If you take the losses and divide them by our member count and apply fuzzy logic we MADE ISK this time! [ ] - I can make that ISK back in xxx time [ ] - It may look bad but THEY never post their losses. [ ] - We lost this one but meh, it's only 6 dreads. The other day on a joint op we killed a CARRIER [ ]
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:05:00 - [40] Well done to BoB and everything for killing another 6 dreads, but uhm, it's not really on the same scale as the dread kills they got when The Collation attacked their Cap ship yard POS now is it? Come back when you have something worthwhile to post about please. ------------------ RAM KB
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:20:00 - [41] Originally by: shivan Well done to BoB and everything for killing another 6 dreads, but uhm, it's not really on the same scale as the dread kills they got when The Collation attacked their Cap ship yard POS now is it? Come back when you have something worthwhile to post about please. Nobody that was actually there started this thread. I guess the OP saw the BoB killboard and just wants to know what happened, along with others. So we simply gave an account of what happened. Perhaps it's not as much as 42 dreads dying but how often does that happen? 6 still is enough to make people go "WTF HAPPENED OMG I WANT TO KNOW!" obviously.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Troubadour Originally by: shivan Well done to BoB and everything for killing another 6 dreads, but uhm, it's not really on the same scale as the dread kills they got when The Collation attacked their Cap ship yard POS now is it? Come back when you have something worthwhile to post about please. Nobody that was actually there started this thread. I guess the OP saw the BoB killboard and just wants to know what happened, along with others. So we simply gave an account of what happened. Perhaps it's not as much as 42 dreads dying but how often does that happen? 6 still is enough to make people go "WTF HAPPENED OMG I WANT TO KNOW!" obviously. I think the OP was there, but this ain't his main, need more guts?
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:39:00 - [43] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: Troubadour Originally by: shivan Well done to BoB and everything for killing another 6 dreads, but uhm, it's not really on the same scale as the dread kills they got when The Collation attacked their Cap ship yard POS now is it? Come back when you have something worthwhile to post about please. Nobody that was actually there started this thread. I guess the OP saw the BoB killboard and just wants to know what happened, along with others. So we simply gave an account of what happened. Perhaps it's not as much as 42 dreads dying but how often does that happen? 6 still is enough to make people go "WTF HAPPENED OMG I WANT TO KNOW!" obviously. I think the OP was there, but this ain't his main, need more guts? tinfoil-hattery 4tl.
Dal Thrax Caldari Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:41:00 - [44] Originally by: Queen News I have no doubt that these alliances losing capital ships like this can afford to replace a few dreads here and there. But when you add up the 6-10 dreads a week, and the 40-50 dreads they lost a week or two ago. It adds up fast, I don't care how many alliances and corps it involves. But the question I wonder more about is why does BoB never seem to lose there capital ships like this. Seems to me the coalition needs to do some traps of there own. Hum, IRON, RAZOR, OHGOD(GOONS), RA, D2, MM, -A-,IAC + others. Lets figure that each alliance is capable to building 4 dreads per week. 8 * 4 = 32. Assuming that my figures aren't badly off and that each group can keep 4 dreads a week up indefiinately . . . we're going to need a couple big cap ship battles before this war is settled. Dal Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again. soon as i have time i will fill you in on the details
Audri Fisher Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:10:00 - [45] Op starts on Saturday at approx 0200 Eve time. IRON command organizes fleet, making sure that known spies are in strategic places in the command structure. Morsis Mihi FC is placed in command of the battleships. A lot of misdirection and running the fleet around in circles is done for a while. Support was really on the ball as they caught 2 covert ops tails and who knows how many tech I and interceptor tails. we arrive in H-74, where we are told that we are anchoring a friendly POS, and that BoB is looking to kick us out. Intel is shifty, as our MM FC is having trouble understanding the accent of some of IRONs scouts. We spend 5 mins jumping from station to gate to gate ect... We get word that the worst possible tactical situation has happened. BoB/Fix/ISS has loaded onto the grid with our baby POS in range with multiple carrier support. We warp in against 3:2 odds. My screen freezes for a bit. I nervously watch gang chat, the x's for having successfully loaded the grid are few and far between. Suddenly, my screen starts to twitch, I x in gang thinking that at least I have 2 targets on my overview. Targets are called, I thank my lucky stars I had switched my overview to Just BS's and BC's earlier, I don't have long range crystals loaded, so I help the support out as I try and change crystals out one at a time. We manage to cyno 1 carrier in so we aren't completely without capital support. It cyno's in 10km from a tempest that has managed to jump in and out about 3 times. Because of the quick nature of the fight, we don't have the option of warp out points. It is so laggy that most BS's don't even attempt to align out, they just stand and shoot. finally the overview starts to clear. they aren't warping in and out anymore. There carriers managed to get out in the confusion of battle. IRON/MM/FREEE holds the field, wrecks litter the battlefield, and they are almost all BoB/Fix/ISS. The arping in/out had killed them, it saved them the first time, but our FC had quickly realized that once they warped back in, they would be cripple by the same load in lag we had suffered for the first 15-20 secs. He did an excellent job of remembering who had warped out in low armor/structure, and recalled them as soon as they popped up. Even though Coalition fleets have to cripple there setups by having to tank multiple types of DD, because our pilots were willing to lose a ship for the team, our guns were actually running the entire fight, instead of being in warp/loading a POS. The fight crushed resistance that night. I never saw another hostile, when support/BS were called in to slap around a Lareg POS while the dreads worked on another, I fell asleep at the keyboard. MY Battlshipe stayed at that hostile POS for 5 hours until downtime, and It was there when I logged back in in the morning. Sunday morning action in H74 was light, with lots of prairie dogging by the defenders. Orange species managed to cyno in/DD/cyno out in less than a minute, snagging 2 BS's and 6 support in the afternoon. He missed me by 2 secs. Support slowly dwindled during the afternoon and night as people had to eat, and unlike cap ship pilots, couldn't simply cyno out and hand over there ship to a replacement. a relief force was started and formed, but BoB beat it to H-74. Fact is that the coalition, esp the IRON/MM/Pure/Freee front will continue to throw capitals at f-t scenarios to keep BoB from getting more titans. why you ask? Because why BoB engages us without multiple supercapitals to back them up, even when they outnumber us, the engaements tend to go very much in our favor.
Jim Linger Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:16:00 - [46] Expanded cargohold?! WHY? _____________________________________________ Discussing moderation is a no-no - Tirg
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:21:00 - [47] Originally by: Jim Linger Expanded cargohold?! WHY? It is called 'Revelation doesn't have enough cargo space for jumping back+forth to this system and 5-6 siege cycles' I suppose. Saves the hassle of having to refuel from carriers.
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:27:00 - [48] Originally by: Audri Fisher ... Because why BoB engages us without multiple supercapitals to back them up, even when they outnumber us, the engaements tend to go very much in our favor.[/i] OMG, LOL. Just LOL. Can I have some of the stuff you are smoking?
Nymos Haiduken Industries	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:28:00 - [49] i think that's what causes so much lag on the server: all the peepers refreshing the map every half a minute to see if a red blob in 0.0 as become brighter red and if it exceeds 20 kills in the last hour make a post on it.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:41:00 - [50] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 09/04/2007 15:37:43 Originally by: Nymos i think that's what causes so much lag on the server: all the peepers refreshing the map every half a minute to see if a red blob in 0.0 as become brighter red and if it exceeds 20 kills in the last hour make a post on it. That's why BoB's killboard keeps crashing . Since there's no "Coalition killboard", everyone not involved in the war who wants to know what's going on constantly refreshes BoB's kills and loss pages to look for big red bolded mails hoping that a big capital ship fight is going on --23 Member-- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio (back up, new address!)
Murukan Minmatar Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:41:00 - [51] Originally by: Jim Linger Expanded cargohold?! WHY? Lol what an idiot. I wish i could come up with pwn setups like that Manlove by Zaphod Jones
nickky01 The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:51:00 - [52] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix Now I don't know about the Arrow Projects loss. But 6 dread losses spread out amongst 4 alliances hardly seems all that notworthy. Hell no one from the battles last night even bothered to post about how badly BoB and Fix had gotten spanked. But I guess the propoganda machine must go on. Well considering people from your side post when they kill alone carrier then in conparison 6 dreads is quite a big thing :) Out of interest what was going on here? Fitted Lo Type : Expanded Cargohold II Quantity : 1 Btw how's the razor Fcing going? a better question is when's the MC killboard gonna be back up :( :(
Dominixa Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:52:00 - [53] Originally by: Audri Fisher Fact is that the coalition, esp the IRON/MM/Pure/Freee front will continue to throw capitals at f-t scenarios to keep BoB from getting more titans. why you ask? Because why BoB engages us without multiple supercapitals to back them up, even when they outnumber us, the engaements tend to go very much in our favor. So there was a Titan in said seiged pos?
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:54:00 - [54] Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix Now I don't know about the Arrow Projects loss. But 6 dread losses spread out amongst 4 alliances hardly seems all that notworthy. Hell no one from the battles last night even bothered to post about how badly BoB and Fix had gotten spanked. But I guess the propoganda machine must go on. Well considering people from your side post when they kill alone carrier then in conparison 6 dreads is quite a big thing :) Out of interest what was going on here? Fitted Lo Type : Expanded Cargohold II Quantity : 1 Btw how's the razor Fcing going? a better question is when's the MC killboard gonna be back up :( :( Its back up but private, seems the 2 month result post didn't do it favours and we need to find a new host for it. As soon as that happens i'm sure it'll be public again.
Izzy Pol Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:55:00 - [55] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Jim Linger Expanded cargohold?! WHY? Lol what an idiot. I wish i could come up with pwn setups like that Despite the fact that dreads have large cargo bays its easily eaten up with isotopes, stront and ammo. If you don't have 4/4/4 skills you need more still. Most dread fleets should have carriers to refuel you but if you want to take a shortcut fit an expander. It's good for a giggle but he woulda died anyway I'm sure.
Fornacis Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:58:00 - [56] Edited by: Fornacis on 09/04/2007 15:55:48 Edited by: Fornacis on 09/04/2007 15:55:22 Great Scott! I died in an epic battle, and didn't know it......may the tales of our deeds be whispered upon the lips of bards for an eternity....or until Revelations 2.
Travling Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:05:00 - [57] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix Now I don't know about the Arrow Projects loss. But 6 dread losses spread out amongst 4 alliances hardly seems all that notworthy. Hell no one from the battles last night even bothered to post about how badly BoB and Fix had gotten spanked. But I guess the propoganda machine must go on. Well considering people from your side post when they kill alone carrier then in conparison 6 dreads is quite a big thing :) Out of interest what was going on here? Fitted Lo Type : Expanded Cargohold II Quantity : 1 Btw how's the razor Fcing going? the reason i fit one is the freaking cargo room in my dread didn't suffice for what i needed. More jump fuel stront ect that **** is heavy.
Travling Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:11:00 - [58] Originally by: Righteous Fury Originally by: Troubadour Because of our valliant service as bob pets molle gave us a wavier for 100mil of the 1billion Trit we are supposed to mine for BoB each month to live in their space. We still have to mine the same amount of pye however. Oi! back to the belts with you. I didn't give you permission to read Eve-O while cycling your miners. I'm doubling your quota of veldspar for this week. Small correction to Troub's report though, the BoB fleet jump-bridges directly on top of the enemy dreads, friendly Exuro capital forces cynoed in separately but immediately afterward. Any claims of lag on the Coalition's capital side is utter falsehood, as proven by a few kills on the BoB killboard, and Exuro's own logs of taking fire from every single hostile dread pilot - to the point where one Naglfar began taking fire before even getting a lock on the hostiles. Travling, you and your buddies can claim lag all you wish, but you're not fooling anyone. Wow u are so ubber the u can explain packet hops and losses when u guys jump in lol my packet loss when u guys started to jump in went from 0.05% to 13% and my ping time went form 124ms to around 1000ms. Would u like me to post my packet logs so u can examine them???? :)
Travling Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:19:00 - [59] Originally by: Izzy Pol Originally by: Righteous Fury Travling, you and your buddies can claim lag all you wish, For ease of use please just use the template below. It has all your standard excuses and witty retorts in one convenient location. I lost MY ship because... - You are haxxing bastards [ ] - Lag [ ] - OMG blobbers [ ] - CTD [ ] - Weird bug (never happened before!) [ ] - Drunk [ ] - Stoned [ ] - Nekkid [ ] - All three of the above [ ] But it's OK - We'll keep fighting the evil cheats [ ] - If you take the losses and divide them by our member count and apply fuzzy logic we MADE ISK this time! [ ] - I can make that ISK back in xxx time [ ] - It may look bad but THEY never post their losses. [ ] - We lost this one but meh, it's only 6 dreads. The other day on a joint op we killed a CARRIER [ ] i died fair enough but y point me out in this. I lost my dread and im in a new one. Hopefully i will kills somebody today to prove this point. Does it really matter how many we loose as long as we bring more to the fight after. When I stop brining cap ships to the fight then flame me. As for the bob haxploit dev help thing. If somebody sleeps with your wife are u gonna believe him when he says he didn't sleep with your friends wife?? No. So bob got caught cheating are people going to believe them when they say that they arn't cheating anymore?? NO. Now if u want to smack me or whatever then plz do it ingame maybe in local cause it seems the people that do say something to me are never in the fights that i have been in maybe i just dont see u in system so smack me in local so i know u where there. Anyway have fun fly safe ect.....
Borg017 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:25:00 - [60] Originally by: darth solo the key to eve is by letting the enemy think they can win. You all need to bait BOB better.. attack pos structures and expect them to try and gank you, have a plan to counter the gank and use it, worst case senario is that they dont try and take you on and you kill the POS. after the first time they will be alot more cautious and maybe u can get more pos kills. its obvious that you can easilly outnumber BOB, use that to your advantage. I think it's more about coordination. The coaltion needs a series of coordinated attacks. This way, BoB can only respond to some of the attacks. They have the number advantage but no organization. I'm still suprised that D2 can't handle Xelas+friends. I don't see how after all this time, they haven't taken the XS station in fountains. Hit BoB where it hurts....obviously not their balls....their pets. -----------------------------------------------

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