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MINSuicide MINSuicide Corp inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:27:00 - [61] I'm sure this is in no way a loss for the northern nubsolution gangbangers.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:33:00 - [62] Originally by: Borg017 Originally by: darth solo the key to eve is by letting the enemy think they can win. You all need to bait BOB better.. attack pos structures and expect them to try and gank you, have a plan to counter the gank and use it, worst case senario is that they dont try and take you on and you kill the POS. after the first time they will be alot more cautious and maybe u can get more pos kills. its obvious that you can easilly outnumber BOB, use that to your advantage. I think it's more about coordination. The coaltion needs a series of coordinated attacks. This way, BoB can only respond to some of the attacks. They have the number advantage but no organization. I'm still suprised that D2 can't handle Xelas+friends. I don't see how after all this time, they haven't taken the XS station in fountains. Hit BoB where it hurts....obviously not their balls....their pets. This is not a flame to D2, but tbh there is little D2 in fountain. I thought all the D2 went home to defend its space, but when we went up there, thats not the case either. I dont know what there current plan of attack is. Sparta and Snigg on the other hand are in fountain daily. We had a great battle with them yesterday in G95, had to drop 11 carriers on them to make them go away lol.
Martin Mckenna D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:33:00 - [63] this guys a 1 day old noob....bob alts trying to bring attention to their killboard...how sad -------------------------------------------
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:59:00 - [64] Originally by: Travling Wow u are so ubber the u can explain packet hops and losses when u guys jump in lol my packet loss when u guys started to jump in went from 0.05% to 13% and my ping time went form 124ms to around 1000ms. Would u like me to post my packet logs so u can examine them???? :) JUST TO MAKE THIS CLEAR I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS BOBS FAULT. THIS WOULD BE CCP'S FAULT FOR NOT THINKING JUMP PORTALS THROUGH AND ECT. I AM NOT SAYING BOB HAX PLOIT . had to clear that up got like 11 billion eve-mails about how we gonna die an ubber slow death ect. So wait, you're upset about ONE SECOND (1000ms = 1 second) module activation lag....with 145 people in local, at a defending POS, with active cyno fields and missiles flying? Wow. I experienced the EXACT same thing, but I guess you haven't realized that a bit of lag is unavoidable in fleet fights.
Travling Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.09 18:02:00 - [65] Originally by: Righteous Fury Originally by: Travling Wow u are so ubber the u can explain packet hops and losses when u guys jump in lol my packet loss when u guys started to jump in went from 0.05% to 13% and my ping time went form 124ms to around 1000ms. Would u like me to post my packet logs so u can examine them???? :) JUST TO MAKE THIS CLEAR I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS BOBS FAULT. THIS WOULD BE CCP'S FAULT FOR NOT THINKING JUMP PORTALS THROUGH AND ECT. I AM NOT SAYING BOB HAX PLOIT . had to clear that up got like 11 billion eve-mails about how we gonna die an ubber slow death ect. So wait, you're upset about ONE SECOND (1000ms = 1 second) module activation lag....with 145 people in local, at a defending POS, with active cyno fields and missiles flying? Wow. I experienced the EXACT same thing, but I guess you haven't realized that a bit of lag is unavoidable in fleet fights. dude the packet loss is what gets me not the 1 sec lag
Blake O'Reilly	Posted - 2007.04.09 18:44:00 - [66] Edited by: Blake O''Reilly on 09/04/2007 18:40:33 Edit: oops wrong board.
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 18:48:00 - [67] Originally by: Travling Originally by: Righteous Fury Originally by: Travling Wow u are so ubber the u can explain packet hops and losses when u guys jump in lol my packet loss when u guys started to jump in went from 0.05% to 13% and my ping time went form 124ms to around 1000ms. Would u like me to post my packet logs so u can examine them???? :) JUST TO MAKE THIS CLEAR I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS BOBS FAULT. THIS WOULD BE CCP'S FAULT FOR NOT THINKING JUMP PORTALS THROUGH AND ECT. I AM NOT SAYING BOB HAX PLOIT . had to clear that up got like 11 billion eve-mails about how we gonna die an ubber slow death ect. So wait, you're upset about ONE SECOND (1000ms = 1 second) module activation lag....with 145 people in local, at a defending POS, with active cyno fields and missiles flying? Wow. I experienced the EXACT same thing, but I guess you haven't realized that a bit of lag is unavoidable in fleet fights. dude the packet loss is what gets me not the 1 sec lag If thatÆs what bothers you then maybe you should surrender and go home now, because itÆs not going to get any better. What are you going to complain about when coalition brings 1K+ people to attack the next BoB ship yard? Why is it that coalition always complains about lag when they lose a fight but have no issue with lag when their train lags out systems and crash nodes? IÆm yet to see a BoB post complaining about lag. Why is that?
FireFox McProwler Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 18:53:00 - [68] Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Borg017 Originally by: darth solo the key to eve is by letting the enemy think they can win. You all need to bait BOB better.. attack pos structures and expect them to try and gank you, have a plan to counter the gank and use it, worst case senario is that they dont try and take you on and you kill the POS. after the first time they will be alot more cautious and maybe u can get more pos kills. its obvious that you can easilly outnumber BOB, use that to your advantage. I think it's more about coordination. The coaltion needs a series of coordinated attacks. This way, BoB can only respond to some of the attacks. They have the number advantage but no organization. I'm still suprised that D2 can't handle Xelas+friends. I don't see how after all this time, they haven't taken the XS station in fountains. Hit BoB where it hurts....obviously not their balls....their pets. This is not a flame to D2, but tbh there is little D2 in fountain. I thought all the D2 went home to defend its space, but when we went up there, thats not the case either. I dont know what there current plan of attack is. Sparta and Snigg on the other hand are in fountain daily. We had a great battle with them yesterday in G95, had to drop 11 carriers on them to make them go away lol. Give it a few months and they will be defending empire once again.
Fornacis Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.09 18:54:00 - [69] I think CCP are doing a helluva job keeping EvE in one shard...but the fact is until technology catches up with CCP's vision, then we will all have to deal with lag. Why some ppl get lag and some others don't? Who knows...luck of the dice? CCP can strip everything out of the game in this "need for speed", but I'm afraid the lag will still be there. I do wish them luck because I know that everyone would love to experience seamless fleet vs fleet action...I know I would. The op in H74 from a soldier's standpoint was fun. We talked, had laughs in TS wilst trying to reinforce some POS's. We knew Bob had a Titan or two lurking about, but the jump bridge into local was a nice tactic. The system seemed pretty stable for me up into warping into the grid. I awoke in station before screen loaded, but no worries. The misses was feeling frisky anyways. :) Noone likes to see Dreads go down make no mistake, but we are hell bent on our mission.
Travling Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.09 19:15:00 - [70] Originally by: Moonlight Express Originally by: Travling Originally by: Righteous Fury Originally by: Travling Wow u are so ubber the u can explain packet hops and losses when u guys jump in lol my packet loss when u guys started to jump in went from 0.05% to 13% and my ping time went form 124ms to around 1000ms. Would u like me to post my packet logs so u can examine them???? :) JUST TO MAKE THIS CLEAR I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS BOBS FAULT. THIS WOULD BE CCP'S FAULT FOR NOT THINKING JUMP PORTALS THROUGH AND ECT. I AM NOT SAYING BOB HAX PLOIT . had to clear that up got like 11 billion eve-mails about how we gonna die an ubber slow death ect. So wait, you're upset about ONE SECOND (1000ms = 1 second) module activation lag....with 145 people in local, at a defending POS, with active cyno fields and missiles flying? Wow. I experienced the EXACT same thing, but I guess you haven't realized that a bit of lag is unavoidable in fleet fights. dude the packet loss is what gets me not the 1 sec lag If thatÆs what bothers you then maybe you should surrender and go home now, because itÆs not going to get any better. What are you going to complain about when coalition brings 1K+ people to attack the next BoB ship yard? Why is it that coalition always complains about lag when they lose a fight but have no issue with lag when their train lags out systems and crash nodes? IÆm yet to see a BoB post complaining about lag. Why is that? just explaining my actions tbh nothing to do with complaining. Ill be there every fight every night till i run outta isk. If u gonna say something to me about a fight atleast be there.
Habraka Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.09 20:32:00 - [71] Originally by: Pain Haemorrhage I keep reading posts like this from coalition members in response to threads / battlereports about them loosing. Although I do prefer them to " omg bob cheaters / haxors " and so on I cant help to wonder when they are going to stop. The simple fact so far, is that in the 2 months? since this war of the coaltion against the alliance started as far as I can tell, apart from when the 9 bob dreads were killed in c3- there has not been one notable, decisive victory against bob led forces dealt by the coalition. Nope, the Coalition hasn't scored a single notable victory against the Alliance forces, except killing an LV Titan, destroying a big part of the LV Capital Fleet (Carriers and Dreadnaughts), taking all LV stations, killing dozens of Alliance Dreadnaughts and Carriers, often in smaller engagements (another 3 FIX Carriers died to Coalition forces in Querious last week). I can't speak for the other Coalition alliances, but for IRON there simply is no other choice then to fight BoB. IRON was formed to one day take part in the big war against BoB, it has been our main reason of existance for two years, we simply can't go back to Deklein before the job is done. And I'm sure this counts for a lot of people in the other alliances as well, and that's where the 'we don't matter how much we lose, we won't give up' attitude comes from. Whatever side backs out of this conflict with isk spare in their wallet or ships in their hangar will become the laughing stock for the victors and much of EvE. In that way we're all forced to fight to the bitter end, and 6 Dread losses, even 50 Dread losses are nothing compared with the total loss count on both sides when this war is over. The Alliance has lost ships and Capitals, the Coalition has lost ships and Capitals, and both can go on for a long while to come.
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.09 20:43:00 - [72] Originally by: Habraka Originally by: Pain Haemorrhage I keep reading posts like this from coalition members in response to threads / battlereports about them loosing. Although I do prefer them to " omg bob cheaters / haxors " and so on I cant help to wonder when they are going to stop. The simple fact so far, is that in the 2 months? since this war of the coaltion against the alliance started as far as I can tell, apart from when the 9 bob dreads were killed in c3- there has not been one notable, decisive victory against bob led forces dealt by the coalition. Nope, the Coalition hasn't scored a single notable victory against the Alliance forces, except killing an LV Titan, destroying a big part of the LV Capital Fleet (Carriers and Dreadnaughts), taking all LV stations, killing dozens of Alliance Dreadnaughts and Carriers, often in smaller engagements (another 3 FIX Carriers died to Coalition forces in Querious last week). I can't speak for the other Coalition alliances, but for IRON there simply is no other choice then to fight BoB. IRON was formed to one day take part in the big war against BoB, it has been our main reason of existance for two years, we simply can't go back to Deklein before the job is done. And I'm sure this counts for a lot of people in the other alliances as well, and that's where the 'we don't matter how much we lose, we won't give up' attitude comes from. Whatever side backs out of this conflict with isk spare in their wallet or ships in their hangar will become the laughing stock for the victors and much of EvE. In that way we're all forced to fight to the bitter end, and 6 Dread losses, even 50 Dread losses are nothing compared with the total loss count on both sides when this war is over. The Alliance has lost ships and Capitals, the Coalition has lost ships and Capitals, and both can go on for a long while to come. Well unless the advance into the north is stopped soon, there might not be a Deklein to go back to for IRON. -----
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.04.09 20:54:00 - [73] Originally by: Habraka Originally by: Pain Haemorrhage Nope, the Coalition hasn't scored a single notable victory against the Alliance forces, except killing an LV Titan, destroying a big part of the LV Capital Fleet (Carriers and Dreadnaughts), taking all LV stations, killing dozens of Alliance Dreadnaughts and Carriers, often in smaller engagements (another 3 FIX Carriers died to Coalition forces in Querious last week). Let's clarify. You killed an embryonic Titan in very suspicious circumstances that made many wonder about the impartiality of the system management. You have also lost many many many many more Dreads and Carriers than you have taken out. Many of your comrades (D2 for example) even took down their killboards to conceal their epic losses. Your comrades are now even DDing their own corpmates. If that's victory, I'd rather be on the losing side. Personally, however, I believe that you know in your heart that you're getting an epic spanking.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 21:08:00 - [74] Originally by: Jim Linger Expanded cargohold?! WHY? Hey, at least it was t2. coughRANyxcough --P
Brunswick2 eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.04.09 21:29:00 - [75] Edited by: Brunswick2 on 09/04/2007 21:26:14 meh, nm
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.09 21:45:00 - [76] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Jim Linger Expanded cargohold?! WHY? Hey, at least it was t2. coughRANyxcough --P i'm guessing he wanted more space for stront? ---------- They stole my sig :(
Jin Steele Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.09 21:46:00 - [77] Originally by: FireFox McProwler Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Borg017 Originally by: darth solo the key to eve is by letting the enemy think they can win. You all need to bait BOB better.. attack pos structures and expect them to try and gank you, have a plan to counter the gank and use it, worst case senario is that they dont try and take you on and you kill the POS. after the first time they will be alot more cautious and maybe u can get more pos kills. its obvious that you can easilly outnumber BOB, use that to your advantage. I think it's more about coordination. The coaltion needs a series of coordinated attacks. This way, BoB can only respond to some of the attacks. They have the number advantage but no organization. I'm still suprised that D2 can't handle Xelas+friends. I don't see how after all this time, they haven't taken the XS station in fountains. Hit BoB where it hurts....obviously not their balls....their pets. This is not a flame to D2, but tbh there is little D2 in fountain. I thought all the D2 went home to defend its space, but when we went up there, thats not the case either. I dont know what there current plan of attack is. Sparta and Snigg on the other hand are in fountain daily. We had a great battle with them yesterday in G95, had to drop 11 carriers on them to make them go away lol. Give it a few months and they will be defending empire once again. You set yourself up for this one. Next time dont post with your main, so i dont have to point out the obvious irony. Linkage for anyone who doesnt remember. Now, please think before you smack.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 21:51:00 - [78] Originally by: Jin Steele Originally by: FireFox McProwler Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Borg017 Originally by: darth solo the key to eve is by letting the enemy think they can win. You all need to bait BOB better.. attack pos structures and expect them to try and gank you, have a plan to counter the gank and use it, worst case senario is that they dont try and take you on and you kill the POS. after the first time they will be alot more cautious and maybe u can get more pos kills. its obvious that you can easilly outnumber BOB, use that to your advantage. I think it's more about coordination. The coaltion needs a series of coordinated attacks. This way, BoB can only respond to some of the attacks. They have the number advantage but no organization. I'm still suprised that D2 can't handle Xelas+friends. I don't see how after all this time, they haven't taken the XS station in fountains. Hit BoB where it hurts....obviously not their balls....their pets. This is not a flame to D2, but tbh there is little D2 in fountain. I thought all the D2 went home to defend its space, but when we went up there, thats not the case either. I dont know what there current plan of attack is. Sparta and Snigg on the other hand are in fountain daily. We had a great battle with them yesterday in G95, had to drop 11 carriers on them to make them go away lol. Give it a few months and they will be defending empire once again. You set yourself up for this one. Next time dont post with your main, so i dont have to point out the obvious irony. Linkage for anyone who doesnt remember. Now, please think before you smack. Still dosnt change what he said. -A- beat us, not like we have not said it 100 times before. If memory serves me right, Iron has went through some drastic changes as well. So maybe you should think before you smack as well.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 21:58:00 - [79] Originally by: Jin Steele You set yourself up for this one. Next time dont post with your main, so i dont have to point out the obvious irony. Linkage for anyone who doesnt remember. Now, please think before you smack. DDC has an office in P-2TTL, in a former "unstoppable surprise-sex-train" station in Pure Blind. So even if you ignore the entire next paragraph of what I'm about to say, results speak louder than smack. As to AXE, we seem to have come out the better for our little stopover in Empire; we've been having the fights of our lives for the last 3 weeks, solid. In the time since we left Impass, we've taken down two Revelations on two AXE-only ops, and a Chimera, Thanatos, and twelve other carriers with various mixtures of Allied friends helping out. We have moved into PNQ, made ridiculous sums of isk off of officer and faction spawns, and generally been grinning like schoolkids who've been given the keys to the candy store. What I'm saying is, maybe you should give Empire a try for a week or two, once you realize who the superior fighting force is in this conflict. When you're done, maybe you can ask Xelas if you can live in their space, too. All it costs is a few billion Veldspar a month, last I heard. And even if you choose not to do so, I have a feeling the choice will be forced upon you. Soon. --P
Habraka Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:01:00 - [80] Originally by: James Snowscoran Well unless the advance into the north is stopped soon, there might not be a Deklein to go back to for IRON. BoB has invaded Deklein before, that won't stop us. We would actually be happy to swap places and take the MC constellation for example, and enjoy all the complexes and nice spawns you guys have here. The north is a wasteland compared to the south in terms of isk making, it's not a difficult choice to make.
Skrypt Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:01:00 - [81] Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix Now I don't know about the Arrow Projects loss. But 6 dread losses spread out amongst 4 alliances hardly seems all that notworthy. Hell no one from the battles last night even bothered to post about how badly BoB and Fix had gotten spanked. But I guess the propoganda machine must go on. Sounds familiar. F-T anyone? Your mighty coalition sucks. ---------- "I know. I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men." ~ Malcolm Wallace (Braveheart)
Travling Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:06:00 - [82] Originally by: Skrypt Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix Now I don't know about the Arrow Projects loss. But 6 dread losses spread out amongst 4 alliances hardly seems all that notworthy. Hell no one from the battles last night even bothered to post about how badly BoB and Fix had gotten spanked. But I guess the propoganda machine must go on. Sounds familiar. F-T anyone? Your mighty coalition sucks. At least we have a home still
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:10:00 - [83] Originally by: Travling At least we have a home still Tick tock.
Jin Steele Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:52:00 - [84] Originally by: Righteous Fury Originally by: Travling At least we have a home still Tick tock. Ding dong.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:00:00 - [85] Originally by: Skrypt Your mighty coalition sucks. So have LV got any space now, or are they still pirating in low sec damm...I am trolling...Flinx slaps himself ...ouch
Queen News Gallente Queen News Corp	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:06:00 - [86] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Skrypt Your mighty coalition sucks. So have LV got any space now, or are they still pirating in low sec damm...I am trolling...Flinx slaps himself ...ouch Dont worry, way it sounds and looks, you will be there soon to.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:09:00 - [87] Originally by: Queen News Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Skrypt Your mighty coalition sucks. So have LV got any space now, or are they still pirating in low sec damm...I am trolling...Flinx slaps himself ...ouch Dont worry, way it sounds and looks, you will be there soon to. Yeah, sure alt monkey Can MC confirm how many outposts they have captured?
Queen News Gallente Queen News Corp	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:11:00 - [88] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Queen News Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Skrypt Your mighty coalition sucks. So have LV got any space now, or are they still pirating in low sec damm...I am trolling...Flinx slaps himself ...ouch Dont worry, way it sounds and looks, you will be there soon to. Yeah, sure alt monkey Can MC confirm how many outposts they have captured? From what i hear, 1, with 2 more on the way within the week. Possibly 3.
ElweSingollo The Vanyar	Posted - 2007.04.10 01:08:00 - [89] Edited by: ElweSingollo on 10/04/2007 01:04:53 Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Jin Steele Originally by: FireFox McProwler Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Borg017 Originally by: darth solo the key to eve is by letting the enemy think they can win. You all need to bait BOB better.. attack pos structures and expect them to try and gank you, have a plan to counter the gank and use it, worst case senario is that they dont try and take you on and you kill the POS. after the first time they will be alot more cautious and maybe u can get more pos kills. its obvious that you can easilly outnumber BOB, use that to your advantage. I think it's more about coordination. The coaltion needs a series of coordinated attacks. This way, BoB can only respond to some of the attacks. They have the number advantage but no organization. I'm still suprised that D2 can't handle Xelas+friends. I don't see how after all this time, they haven't taken the XS station in fountains. Hit BoB where it hurts....obviously not their balls....their pets. This is not a flame to D2, but tbh there is little D2 in fountain. I thought all the D2 went home to defend its space, but when we went up there, thats not the case either. I dont know what there current plan of attack is. Sparta and Snigg on the other hand are in fountain daily. We had a great battle with them yesterday in G95, had to drop 11 carriers on them to make them go away lol. Give it a few months and they will be defending empire once again. You set yourself up for this one. Next time dont post with your main, so i dont have to point out the obvious irony. Linkage for anyone who doesnt remember. Now, please think before you smack. Still dosnt change what he said. -A- beat us, not like we have not said it 100 times before. If memory serves me right, Iron has went through some drastic changes as well. So maybe you should think before you smack as well. Same maybe goes for your member as basically that was what his comment was... CCP and Eve Online... It's not a bug, it's a feature
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.10 02:46:00 - [90] Originally by: Barkode Originally by: Kara Mori The thing is, these losses don't seem to be breaking Coalition spirit very much. Still, you can only lose so many decisive victories before you start to lose moral. Most of the rank and file coalition that I have talked with really just want to go back to doing what they were doing before the war. Alot of the guys on the front lines have been fighting a seemingly endless war since January and are getting bored. Thankyou for forming my opinion for me, i didnt realise my morale and wallet were so low until you told me so, i'd just LOVE to go back to carebearing as nothing gets me hotter than seeing the same **ty low qaulity guristas rats i see every day. Why cant we be friends.. why cant we be friends.... If you want to mess with us please at least post with your main, i'd believe a bob member saying you're losing over a 1 man corp member telling me the same... unless you're main is in a pet alliance that no one respects. Originally by:** Dr Cupid Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!

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