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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:26:00 -
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how about making ships also able to manufature drones...
it takes like 7 minuts to make 5 drones so if you place a BPO in a ship it will be able to build drones up to the max drone compacity.
rather than useing minerals to create them use hull points to create them.
example: you launch into a mission and you set drones to be manufactured.
none can be made cuz drone capacity is full but if you lose all 5 cuz of warp or just destroyed.
all of a sudden your hull takes 10% damage and in 7 minuts you will have 5 new drones!
tell me this is unballanced and i will laugh at you like a retard stabbing his eye!
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:30:00 -
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You couldn't be more wrong.
Now please stop making threads.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:50:00 -
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after you!
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Esteth
Gallente
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:58:00 -
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its not imbalanced, just stupid.
see the assembly arrays at a pos? well, you're proposing that all ships with a drone bay now have an entire, unmanned factory inside them? insane.
not to mention the people who produce drones as part of their trade, they'd lose a substantial amount of their income.
also, why should drones be the exception? "damn, that rig is in empire...wait! i can just sacrifice 10% structure hp, and make it right here, without minerals!"
worst. idea. ever. actually, there was an even worse idea i recall, but i cant recall the idea itself, i just remember it was really, really bad :P
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.09 22:43:00 -
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lol drones builders lost thier foot hold on being a viable sorce of income there are so many unsold drones its driveing down the value that is of corse not including fighter drone producers but hey the market is saturated with so many builders now that people now often build thier own crap and have difficulty selling. its not like im asking for Tech 2 drones to be made there cuz you need advanced array or a station for that.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:09:00 -
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 Originally by: SpawnSupreme
after you!
I didn't open any threads...
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:18:00 -
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Stop. Making. Threads.
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Esteth
Gallente
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Esteth on 09/04/2007 23:38:11
Originally by: SpawnSupreme
lol drones builders lost thier foot hold on being a viable sorce of income there are so many unsold drones its driveing down the value that is of corse not including fighter drone producers but hey the market is saturated with so many builders now that people now often build thier own crap and have difficulty selling. its not like im asking for Tech 2 drones to be made there cuz you need advanced array or a station for that.
1. There are no unsold drones. only drones waiting to sell, and drones not waiting to sell. if the price is right, someone will buy them. same with everything.
2. AFAIK, T2 drones are produced in exactly the same arrays that T1 drones are produced in, just with different blueprints and minerals.
3. Stop making threads
EDIT: 4. Go to the suggestions forum
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:25:00 -
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ok i stand corrected so T2 drones are made in same locations but it can be nerfed to only produce t1 drones.
as for the other coments you made sounded like jibberish to me
players with T1 small/medium and large drones stop makeing them for the makets cuz there are players on thier second day of eve with them BPOs
ok maybe a little exaderation but whats the point in selling an item only newbs will buy and that is if the newbs can afford it thus driving down the market.
it would not be a huge loss for anyone to allow a ship to manufature the drones using its so called extra parts or partial integraty.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 01:31:45
if you lack the creativity to post threads.... REALLY! whats the point to be here?
go play the game if your not willing to share ideas or try new ideas or even let the people tith ideas debate on more funtional methods to make an idea work.
you just sit here and post you angry little mind thoughts thrashing all ideas without consideration.
if you were any type of adult or had an creative mind you might help with the idea to make it work like some of the post.
but you know what i cant shut you up and i will not let your thrashing ideas go un desputed untill you help shed some lite or say something constructive.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
as for the other coments you made sounded like jibberish to me
My irony detector just exploded.
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:41:00 -
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Setting aside this is another foolish, i am being kind and only using this word, idea but this is highly unbalanced.
The reason it is unbalanced is because it can easy be countered the cost for free money.
Example:
Myrm: Makes heavy drones with 5 mids for hull repairers. After drones are drone being made they can dock remove the drones and reduce them to free materials.
Sounds very small correct? Well now add into effect 5000 players start to germinate Drones in this fashion, all for the reason of free minerals every 7.5min while almost being afk. Depending on refining skills how much funds you can make per batch, now with the current T2 BPO of t2 drones this gets even worse as you would sell those directly onto the market. Possibly making 5,000,000.00ISK to 10,000,000.00ISK depending on location and drone type.
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Mephisto Krall
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Mephisto Krall on 10/04/2007 02:01:49
I agree with dahak and think that you should stop making threads cause they are stupid and ridicilous, "o im hghly awrded n teh rmy lol", also learn to spell and try using the wonderful key known as shift, it makes reading your nonsense a bit easier.
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Mr Friendly
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:24:00 -
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I'm generally a placid forum reader.
I try to read the entire thread before responding.
This time I'm not going to bother.
You have posted a bunch of clearly ill-informed threads in the past couple of days.
Shut up, read a whole bunch first and for gods sake play the damn game before posting 'ideas.'
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:52:00 -
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vincent your post was much apreciated as per try to assist me in finding the flaw.
yet lets just say that drones that are created by a ship cannot be removed from the ship unless destroyed it will solve the melt down for minerals theory.
it will solve the consern of market also!
make sure these drones have a 0% chance of leaving salvage.
this being said would that eliminate all your concers and then make it a viable addition?
if not again why not?
there are lots of un explainable things in this game like...
how does 1 man or woman fly a battleship opperate all and maintain all systems?
thats impossible write?
well why can a ship have an automated bay where if given the scrap metal it could assemble electronic drones.
i mean sheesh my father work for aerospace where he monitors the machines do practicly 100% of assembly of airforce real life drones. and car manufacturing plants holy has people to inspect a finnished car.
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:52:00 -
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please stop :(
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 02:53:46
i probably have more expierience and skill points on this charictor than a few of you all put together so i think i qualify as being a vertan if not i will compare you to my many more accounts with higher skill levels but im confadent spawn is older than the majority of you.
i was probably playing eve when you guys were just a twinkle in your dadys eye.
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:01:00 -
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The idea is still flawed from on key fact you do no realize, when the drone master leaves the plain which the drones are in the drones are able to be taken be anyone.
Now as for a reason why one person can control a whole whip by themselves is because their mind is directly linked into each one of the systems which is directed through the pod technology, which rply ewas given by the jove.
A reason why a ship should not be able to manufacture that is a combat ship is because it would interfear with the combat system itself of the ship. It would have to reduce combat funtions for the mechanical interface for the drone construction area as well as limit sensor equipment for preperation for minerals to be taken from the ship to build these drones.
Lastly before you make another topic with a simular ideas as this but for ammo, the same rules would apply as that i have said in this post.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:38:00 -
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how does this 1 pilot who operats the ship repair the ship or clean it or anything.
there are jobs abord any ship that cannot be replaced by 1 man.
what does this 1 man do if life suport systems fail.
jump in a submarine and let the captian tell you how important each man is.
it will never be possible to replace 100% of ones hands on.
is this person responcable for monitoring all the gauges that indicate speed, time, pressure, tempature, comunications, fix ruptured pipes, and controles just to scrach the surface i can come up with a minimum of 1000 more operations.
when do you sleep, who feeds you, who plays cards with you, who tells you stories about the wife in a thong?
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Wrayeth
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:40:00 -
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This might be viable for motherships and titans, but I wouldn't condone it for any other ships, not even carriers.
-Wrayeth
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:46:00 -
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it would not interfear with manufaturing or other parts of ship cuz the pilot can multitask and the ship was designed before construction to have a scrap metal bay that creates drones.
if you leave the ship the drones return to bay.
if you warp away the drones will just disapear like wreakage left alone to long and you cannot return to pick up drones if your drone bay is trying to replace lost drones.
you cant steal a drone that is operated by another player so now it is impossible to exploit this method!
simple as there is no action pilot or thief can do to trade steal or rid of drones other than destruction.
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Maverick McDougel
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth
This might be viable for motherships and titans, but I wouldn't condone it for any other ships, not even carriers.
since motherships can't dock and get free repairs in a player owned station like you can wiht every other type of ships. want to sell some drones, fine. undock, launch, redock, undock, spawn drones while your alt scoops the old ones to sell. 
if you are not smart enough to scoop your drones when you warp out of belt or wait to launch until you got the spawn agro you should not be using them.
now i see why wrayeth wants to kill people so much when he reads posts like this one. 
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:55:00 -
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no i coverd your issues just fine nothing in your post that i have not explaind so far.
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Hellsraiser
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Posted - 2007.04.10 04:07:00 -
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Relatively clear that the thread starter does not want to see his idea float like a stone.
Vincent actually bothered to give you the details of the results of that foolish venture your response "oh lets make them work only on that ship"
Your idea still remains completely foolish t1 drones are already cheap so your saying they should be free so when someone really can not be bothered to care they are allowed to be rewarded for careless inobservant behaviour losing their drones and oh go get a drink you can get some more.
Your idea is horrifically ill conceived and well i take odds your going to rapidly try defend your creation like a poorly made frankenstein's monster.
So before you start sit down read through Vincents post again he stated very clearly the results your only counter was make it only stay on that ship which still becomes pointless as any true ship that relies 100% on drones see dominix for a ship that can rely on that guess what. He has space for more.
Bad idea think about ideas worth peoples time as what you just suggested was horrific how about my idea It took me an entire 10 seconds.
Lets manufacture ammo inside our ships and missiles.
After all its cheap and we can not be bothered to buy more so lets all just manufacture ammo in our ship.
Retarded.
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Roger Waters
Wise Guys
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Posted - 2007.04.10 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
how does this 1 pilot who operats the ship repair the ship or clean it or anything.
there are jobs abord any ship that cannot be replaced by 1 man.
what does this 1 man do if life suport systems fail.
jump in a submarine and let the captian tell you how important each man is.
it will never be possible to replace 100% of ones hands on.
is this person responcable for monitoring all the gauges that indicate speed, time, pressure, tempature, comunications, fix ruptured pipes, and controles just to scrach the surface i can come up with a minimum of 1000 more operations.
when do you sleep, who feeds you, who plays cards with you, who tells you stories about the wife in a thong?
Those things are all explained in the Chronicles (the pod technoligy and the crew thingy).
A "veteran" like you should now that.
And please. Please oh please, try not to type with your forhead, most of this bs you write takes twice as long to understand than it should be
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 06:56:00 -
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well i do respect vincents oppinion and yours because you have shown me possible loopholes and it was easy for me like a wave of a wand to fix the loopholes.
onlything vincent said in his post that conflicted with my drone plan. was a player can launch drones and other players can grab them.
the easiest fix to this is have the drones disapear as you warp away or just the drones become a unancord colidable object for a brief moment say 15 minutes only creator ship is able to lauch or dock the drones back in the creator ship.
the drones are not free first there is the BPO then it takes hull damage.
lets even say it takes 30% hull damage to create
a full set of drones.
that can be a costly issue in a mission if you wait to long to warp in mission.
it takes 7 minuts to create 5 drones so applying this to a PVP thery would be silly cuz who last 7 minuts in a pvp battle
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 07:08:00 -
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and im not trying to apply this idea on any ship but rather all ships.
the only down side to the idea is t1 drone BPO owners is that its harder to sell them.
on the other hand the drones made in a station can be sold traded like normal and the ones in ship cant because they have to be destroyed to fit new drones.
lets say for example you have ship made drones you open drone bay and see drones when you try to take them out is tells you locked.
now you undock and lunch them out in space and redock
now you have space to put new drones.
when you go back outside the drone are not there cuz they disapear once they lose the drone controle range.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.10 07:28:00 -
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Please don't troll and tell people to stop posting threads. If you feel that a thread should be locked, email us at [email protected] and we'll take a look at it. If you don't like the idea of a thread, attack the idea, not the thread-starter, and do so in a constructive manner please.
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Gladiator Jonny
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Posted - 2007.04.10 09:15:00 -
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Constructive and not offencive.
Question: how about making ships also able to manufature drones...
Answer: No no no no and guess what. No.
im guessing your a drone ship pilot (due to the threads which you try to make drone ships even more un-balanced).
and yes i am a drone pilot, an as so many other people said in your other thread it simply wont work.. your just trying to further imbalance the game so we get more idiots on the forum saying "nerf gallente".
please... shh.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 11:12:59
nope i use drones but actualy my drones is my lowest skill tree at just over 600k skill points in drones. my galentee account is well traind in drones but my other race accounts are not so skilld in drones either
strangely enough i think the current drone system is ballanced but use more flavor and i think the res of the game is ballanced but just cuz it is ballanced doesnt mean leave it alone the game can grow with the players. so any new ideas that fit in game well enough should be though as a viable option
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