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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:26:00 -
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how about making ships also able to manufature drones...
it takes like 7 minuts to make 5 drones so if you place a BPO in a ship it will be able to build drones up to the max drone compacity.
rather than useing minerals to create them use hull points to create them.
example: you launch into a mission and you set drones to be manufactured.
none can be made cuz drone capacity is full but if you lose all 5 cuz of warp or just destroyed.
all of a sudden your hull takes 10% damage and in 7 minuts you will have 5 new drones!
tell me this is unballanced and i will laugh at you like a retard stabbing his eye!
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:30:00 -
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You couldn't be more wrong.
Now please stop making threads.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:50:00 -
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after you!
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Esteth
Gallente
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:58:00 -
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its not imbalanced, just stupid.
see the assembly arrays at a pos? well, you're proposing that all ships with a drone bay now have an entire, unmanned factory inside them? insane.
not to mention the people who produce drones as part of their trade, they'd lose a substantial amount of their income.
also, why should drones be the exception? "damn, that rig is in empire...wait! i can just sacrifice 10% structure hp, and make it right here, without minerals!"
worst. idea. ever. actually, there was an even worse idea i recall, but i cant recall the idea itself, i just remember it was really, really bad :P
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.09 22:43:00 -
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lol drones builders lost thier foot hold on being a viable sorce of income there are so many unsold drones its driveing down the value that is of corse not including fighter drone producers but hey the market is saturated with so many builders now that people now often build thier own crap and have difficulty selling. its not like im asking for Tech 2 drones to be made there cuz you need advanced array or a station for that.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:09:00 -
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 Originally by: SpawnSupreme
after you!
I didn't open any threads...
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:18:00 -
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Stop. Making. Threads.
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Esteth
Gallente
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.09 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Esteth on 09/04/2007 23:38:11
Originally by: SpawnSupreme
lol drones builders lost thier foot hold on being a viable sorce of income there are so many unsold drones its driveing down the value that is of corse not including fighter drone producers but hey the market is saturated with so many builders now that people now often build thier own crap and have difficulty selling. its not like im asking for Tech 2 drones to be made there cuz you need advanced array or a station for that.
1. There are no unsold drones. only drones waiting to sell, and drones not waiting to sell. if the price is right, someone will buy them. same with everything.
2. AFAIK, T2 drones are produced in exactly the same arrays that T1 drones are produced in, just with different blueprints and minerals.
3. Stop making threads
EDIT: 4. Go to the suggestions forum
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:25:00 -
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ok i stand corrected so T2 drones are made in same locations but it can be nerfed to only produce t1 drones.
as for the other coments you made sounded like jibberish to me
players with T1 small/medium and large drones stop makeing them for the makets cuz there are players on thier second day of eve with them BPOs
ok maybe a little exaderation but whats the point in selling an item only newbs will buy and that is if the newbs can afford it thus driving down the market.
it would not be a huge loss for anyone to allow a ship to manufature the drones using its so called extra parts or partial integraty.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 01:31:45
if you lack the creativity to post threads.... REALLY! whats the point to be here?
go play the game if your not willing to share ideas or try new ideas or even let the people tith ideas debate on more funtional methods to make an idea work.
you just sit here and post you angry little mind thoughts thrashing all ideas without consideration.
if you were any type of adult or had an creative mind you might help with the idea to make it work like some of the post.
but you know what i cant shut you up and i will not let your thrashing ideas go un desputed untill you help shed some lite or say something constructive.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
as for the other coments you made sounded like jibberish to me
My irony detector just exploded.
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:41:00 -
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Setting aside this is another foolish, i am being kind and only using this word, idea but this is highly unbalanced.
The reason it is unbalanced is because it can easy be countered the cost for free money.
Example:
Myrm: Makes heavy drones with 5 mids for hull repairers. After drones are drone being made they can dock remove the drones and reduce them to free materials.
Sounds very small correct? Well now add into effect 5000 players start to germinate Drones in this fashion, all for the reason of free minerals every 7.5min while almost being afk. Depending on refining skills how much funds you can make per batch, now with the current T2 BPO of t2 drones this gets even worse as you would sell those directly onto the market. Possibly making 5,000,000.00ISK to 10,000,000.00ISK depending on location and drone type.
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Mephisto Krall
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Mephisto Krall on 10/04/2007 02:01:49
I agree with dahak and think that you should stop making threads cause they are stupid and ridicilous, "o im hghly awrded n teh rmy lol", also learn to spell and try using the wonderful key known as shift, it makes reading your nonsense a bit easier.
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Mr Friendly
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:24:00 -
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I'm generally a placid forum reader.
I try to read the entire thread before responding.
This time I'm not going to bother.
You have posted a bunch of clearly ill-informed threads in the past couple of days.
Shut up, read a whole bunch first and for gods sake play the damn game before posting 'ideas.'
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:52:00 -
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vincent your post was much apreciated as per try to assist me in finding the flaw.
yet lets just say that drones that are created by a ship cannot be removed from the ship unless destroyed it will solve the melt down for minerals theory.
it will solve the consern of market also!
make sure these drones have a 0% chance of leaving salvage.
this being said would that eliminate all your concers and then make it a viable addition?
if not again why not?
there are lots of un explainable things in this game like...
how does 1 man or woman fly a battleship opperate all and maintain all systems?
thats impossible write?
well why can a ship have an automated bay where if given the scrap metal it could assemble electronic drones.
i mean sheesh my father work for aerospace where he monitors the machines do practicly 100% of assembly of airforce real life drones. and car manufacturing plants holy has people to inspect a finnished car.
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:52:00 -
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please stop :(
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 02:53:46
i probably have more expierience and skill points on this charictor than a few of you all put together so i think i qualify as being a vertan if not i will compare you to my many more accounts with higher skill levels but im confadent spawn is older than the majority of you.
i was probably playing eve when you guys were just a twinkle in your dadys eye.
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:01:00 -
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The idea is still flawed from on key fact you do no realize, when the drone master leaves the plain which the drones are in the drones are able to be taken be anyone.
Now as for a reason why one person can control a whole whip by themselves is because their mind is directly linked into each one of the systems which is directed through the pod technology, which rply ewas given by the jove.
A reason why a ship should not be able to manufacture that is a combat ship is because it would interfear with the combat system itself of the ship. It would have to reduce combat funtions for the mechanical interface for the drone construction area as well as limit sensor equipment for preperation for minerals to be taken from the ship to build these drones.
Lastly before you make another topic with a simular ideas as this but for ammo, the same rules would apply as that i have said in this post.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:38:00 -
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how does this 1 pilot who operats the ship repair the ship or clean it or anything.
there are jobs abord any ship that cannot be replaced by 1 man.
what does this 1 man do if life suport systems fail.
jump in a submarine and let the captian tell you how important each man is.
it will never be possible to replace 100% of ones hands on.
is this person responcable for monitoring all the gauges that indicate speed, time, pressure, tempature, comunications, fix ruptured pipes, and controles just to scrach the surface i can come up with a minimum of 1000 more operations.
when do you sleep, who feeds you, who plays cards with you, who tells you stories about the wife in a thong?
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Wrayeth
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:40:00 -
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This might be viable for motherships and titans, but I wouldn't condone it for any other ships, not even carriers.
-Wrayeth
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:46:00 -
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it would not interfear with manufaturing or other parts of ship cuz the pilot can multitask and the ship was designed before construction to have a scrap metal bay that creates drones.
if you leave the ship the drones return to bay.
if you warp away the drones will just disapear like wreakage left alone to long and you cannot return to pick up drones if your drone bay is trying to replace lost drones.
you cant steal a drone that is operated by another player so now it is impossible to exploit this method!
simple as there is no action pilot or thief can do to trade steal or rid of drones other than destruction.
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Maverick McDougel
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth
This might be viable for motherships and titans, but I wouldn't condone it for any other ships, not even carriers.
since motherships can't dock and get free repairs in a player owned station like you can wiht every other type of ships. want to sell some drones, fine. undock, launch, redock, undock, spawn drones while your alt scoops the old ones to sell. 
if you are not smart enough to scoop your drones when you warp out of belt or wait to launch until you got the spawn agro you should not be using them.
now i see why wrayeth wants to kill people so much when he reads posts like this one. 
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:55:00 -
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no i coverd your issues just fine nothing in your post that i have not explaind so far.
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Hellsraiser
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Posted - 2007.04.10 04:07:00 -
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Relatively clear that the thread starter does not want to see his idea float like a stone.
Vincent actually bothered to give you the details of the results of that foolish venture your response "oh lets make them work only on that ship"
Your idea still remains completely foolish t1 drones are already cheap so your saying they should be free so when someone really can not be bothered to care they are allowed to be rewarded for careless inobservant behaviour losing their drones and oh go get a drink you can get some more.
Your idea is horrifically ill conceived and well i take odds your going to rapidly try defend your creation like a poorly made frankenstein's monster.
So before you start sit down read through Vincents post again he stated very clearly the results your only counter was make it only stay on that ship which still becomes pointless as any true ship that relies 100% on drones see dominix for a ship that can rely on that guess what. He has space for more.
Bad idea think about ideas worth peoples time as what you just suggested was horrific how about my idea It took me an entire 10 seconds.
Lets manufacture ammo inside our ships and missiles.
After all its cheap and we can not be bothered to buy more so lets all just manufacture ammo in our ship.
Retarded.
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Roger Waters
Wise Guys
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Posted - 2007.04.10 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
how does this 1 pilot who operats the ship repair the ship or clean it or anything.
there are jobs abord any ship that cannot be replaced by 1 man.
what does this 1 man do if life suport systems fail.
jump in a submarine and let the captian tell you how important each man is.
it will never be possible to replace 100% of ones hands on.
is this person responcable for monitoring all the gauges that indicate speed, time, pressure, tempature, comunications, fix ruptured pipes, and controles just to scrach the surface i can come up with a minimum of 1000 more operations.
when do you sleep, who feeds you, who plays cards with you, who tells you stories about the wife in a thong?
Those things are all explained in the Chronicles (the pod technoligy and the crew thingy).
A "veteran" like you should now that.
And please. Please oh please, try not to type with your forhead, most of this bs you write takes twice as long to understand than it should be
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 06:56:00 -
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well i do respect vincents oppinion and yours because you have shown me possible loopholes and it was easy for me like a wave of a wand to fix the loopholes.
onlything vincent said in his post that conflicted with my drone plan. was a player can launch drones and other players can grab them.
the easiest fix to this is have the drones disapear as you warp away or just the drones become a unancord colidable object for a brief moment say 15 minutes only creator ship is able to lauch or dock the drones back in the creator ship.
the drones are not free first there is the BPO then it takes hull damage.
lets even say it takes 30% hull damage to create
a full set of drones.
that can be a costly issue in a mission if you wait to long to warp in mission.
it takes 7 minuts to create 5 drones so applying this to a PVP thery would be silly cuz who last 7 minuts in a pvp battle
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 07:08:00 -
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and im not trying to apply this idea on any ship but rather all ships.
the only down side to the idea is t1 drone BPO owners is that its harder to sell them.
on the other hand the drones made in a station can be sold traded like normal and the ones in ship cant because they have to be destroyed to fit new drones.
lets say for example you have ship made drones you open drone bay and see drones when you try to take them out is tells you locked.
now you undock and lunch them out in space and redock
now you have space to put new drones.
when you go back outside the drone are not there cuz they disapear once they lose the drone controle range.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.10 07:28:00 -
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Please don't troll and tell people to stop posting threads. If you feel that a thread should be locked, email us at [email protected] and we'll take a look at it. If you don't like the idea of a thread, attack the idea, not the thread-starter, and do so in a constructive manner please.
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Gladiator Jonny
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Posted - 2007.04.10 09:15:00 -
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Constructive and not offencive.
Question: how about making ships also able to manufature drones...
Answer: No no no no and guess what. No.
im guessing your a drone ship pilot (due to the threads which you try to make drone ships even more un-balanced).
and yes i am a drone pilot, an as so many other people said in your other thread it simply wont work.. your just trying to further imbalance the game so we get more idiots on the forum saying "nerf gallente".
please... shh.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 11:12:59
nope i use drones but actualy my drones is my lowest skill tree at just over 600k skill points in drones. my galentee account is well traind in drones but my other race accounts are not so skilld in drones either
strangely enough i think the current drone system is ballanced but use more flavor and i think the res of the game is ballanced but just cuz it is ballanced doesnt mean leave it alone the game can grow with the players. so any new ideas that fit in game well enough should be though as a viable option
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:43:00 -
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well spawn i like the ideas if there was a way to test them on the test server.
i like both ideas but i think the first one has alot of freedom and this idea is more restricted.
it appears many others have simular concerns but i noticed you repeat your self many times explaining how you would fix any issues they see.
im just saying love the destroyer idea and the bot killer post was amusing!
i doubt this will have any bearing on the minds of others but heres an additional nerf idea...
rather than puting a BPO in ship it will only accept BPC meaning you have to research the drone copies and the amount of drones that can be created is limited by the runs of each copy... what do you and everyone else think about that...
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2007.04.11 03:07:00 -
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i guess there are not much negitive or positive anyone can say about my fix to your post.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2007.04.19 23:49:00 -
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any idea when this will be implamented to the game?
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Marquis Dean
Indigo Fade
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Emporors Champian
any idea when this will be implamented to the game?
This thread was nice and dead.
You stupid ass.
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Jaedar Metron
Artificial Horizons
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.20 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jaedar Metron on 20/04/2007 01:17:36
Originally by: Emporors Champian
any idea when this will be implamented to the game?
How about never?
To the OP, I've got several issues with your idea and reasonings, read on...
1. Hull is free. You just fit a couple of hull repairers. As a vet you know that all real men hull tank!  (Hull tanking a Drake doesnt work well by the way... 
2. Eve does not work like that. There are tons of items in the game. It gives the game alot of strategic depth. Take away the need for actually getting some of the items removes pieces of strategic oomphs. By removing the need for buying the drones you remove the risks of losing them, and you remove the logistics of getting new ones, although I see your entire point is just that, to remove the logistics and make the game "plug and play" like WoW.
3. Drones are ammunition. remove the need for actually buying them and you will have an unlimited supply of ammunition. If you add this to all ammunition, all ammunition based strategic oomph is removed.
4. As the drones are items, theres no way for CCP to just stuff this into the game. The drones would need an entire rework, drones would be removed from the databases (as they are no longer needed) and a new object would be needed with the right code to insure that the drones would indeed disappear and not being lootable.
4. If the drones from market disappears, so does the BPO's (again, no point in having them) You want CCP to create you entirely new items/mods just so that drone users can be even more overpowered than they already are?
5. If you have issues with how some things are unreasonable, try reading the chronicles. And short stories. "The Jovian Wetgrave" should quench your thirst for information regarding Battleships being flown by one man (They are not). Also read the short story with the bounty hunter, thats a good one too.
E. Champian, your idea is better, but again, no BPO's, no BPC's, refer to #5 Also, refer to all the other numbers
All in all, your idea is flawed to the extremes. I had to resist the dire need of flaming you . Basically, you'll remove depth from the game, you'll remove risks of item loss, you'll waste developers time and you will further increase the nasty power of the drone users.
In related news you should wolk on your grammar and read up on EvE's background and facts before posting stuff and claiming you are a veteran player, even if you really are (sorry ISD, I could resist, onwards, my knights!)
Regards
-JM
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2007.04.20 10:04:00 -
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hehe well your points may be valid but to me those arguments seem so petty i will gladly watch the decay of T1 drones market value buying drones is a pin in but you can buy them so cheep like 12k-20k isk pluss they drop in wreaks.
my big issue is look how cheep they are but few players make them so you have to fly 15 jumps to get them! oops they die fly 15 jumps again.
can buy the BPO cheep too. i dont see what the fuss is about?
i would be against a T2 drone implemented this way but T1 hell yeah.
there are unlimited suplys of ammo just do a complex or few missions and you have more ammo then you know what to do with.
as far as writing the program? there is very little involved, it would be a small patch the only thing is it would be tedious work to go in every ship and set up a build program.
it does not make galente stronger! and it would not make any other race stronger, it just opens options.
this is a counterballanced rule.
if you use it to gain drone power you lose ship power, notice spawns claims and i see his points to be very logical.
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Jaedar Metron
Artificial Horizons
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.20 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Emporors Champian
hehe well your points may be valid but to me those arguments seem so petty i will gladly watch the decay of T1 drones market
Some people are actually making a living out of them. Thats right, they are called new players.
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value buying drones is a pin in but you can buy them so cheep like 12k-20k isk pluss they drop in wreaks.
my big issue is look how cheep they are but few players make them so you have to fly 15 jumps to get them! oops they die fly 15 jumps again.
Again, this is part of the strategy of the game. EvE is not a game where you perfect your aim or timing or whatever. It's more about strategy and plotting your actions correctly. Knowing what modules to fit your ship with is part of this, knowing what ammo to fit is part of this, and knowing that you can potentionally lose your drones when travelling is part of this. Before you leave your HQ station, check the market of your destination. Are there drones there? No? Stuff a couple more of them badasses in your cargohold as spares...
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can buy the BPO cheep too. i dont see what the fuss is about?
God kills a noob every time people with more experience say something like that 
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there are unlimited suplys of ammo just do a complex or few missions and you have more ammo then you know what to do with.
I prefer to stay away form PvE thank you, but that does not mean I want to have easy access to various forms of ammunition (drones). I prefer the strategic oomph of actually thinking about my ammunition before I cut myself away from the suppliers.
Which brings me to another point: I live in 0.0 Serpentis space. Out here we CAN get alot of ammunition, but no missiles. Market also never have the missiletype I need, the nearest place I can find a couple is actually 20+ jumps away... What do I do? I BUILD them myself, or rather, I've got some helpful mates that do it for me.
Jaedar said: Let there be missiles
And there were missiles, and all was good.
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as far as writing the program? there is very little involved, it would be a small patch the only thing is it would be tedious work to go in every ship and set up a build program.
To be honest, I do not know much about programming. Do you? To me it seems like alot of work:
-Remove all drones from loottables and databases.
-Add a completely new Destoryable object using the old drone models and animation.
-Make this new object work like the old drones, without being dropable.
-Add a completely new building program that can build these new objects with the use of hull structure.
This might not even be everything that needs to be done, and while it might not seem like much work, I believe the last point would indeed take a while to code, as the grounds for making it isnt already there.
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it does not make galente stronger! and it would not make any other race stronger, it just opens options.
Could you please tell me exactly what options it opens? To me it seems like it would indeed reduce the amount of strategy in EvE. And by god, yes, it would indeed make Gallente stronger... One of the drawbacks of drone ships is exactly the fact that they can lose the drones. The only fix drones need is their AI becoming smart.
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this is a counterballanced rule.
if you use it to gain drone power you lose ship power, notice spawns claims and i see his points to be very logical.
It is not counterbalanced. Hell, give me unlimited ammunition in my launchers and I'll gladly fly with 1 hull HP. Hull is damn near USELESS, unless youre a man and hulltank 
The gains by far outweigh the penalty.
Thanks for reading
-JM
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.24 10:10:00 -
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the people who make a living off T1 drones give up quickly because they do not produce enough income. this is why there are so few sellers.
well if your willing to fly 15 jumps for drones then hey, all i can say is i dont and wont.
if i have to fly more than 5 jumps for something i wont buy it i will just get the BPO and build it.
i dont care for noobs or nub but i do care for the newbs. i also have to say thats a funny statement.
many of us especialy corp members with roles are required to PVE for status allowing the corp to place POS in empire or to get jump clones. and most of us build our own ammo so it would hardly affect the ammo.
i happen to moonlight as a programmer (games only). and ro remove information is the easiest thing to do long as it is not shared information. i could go into detail but this would need chapters and i dont wanna write a novel. but i would say that they already have build brograms in game and you can duplicate them and write a short script to limit it in what ever ways.
trigger is all that is needed to activate hull damage just set the percentage and done.
you wouldnt rid of drones cuz they still need to be built by someone for those who dont have interest in the production side of eve.
the galente ships would not be stronger once again because every other ship in the game can mimic this addition making it have little impact.
i think what (emporor) was saying about open options was allowing any race any ship to take on a whole new combat element that galente perdy much was the master of. but then again it would not weaken the galente cuz the have the drone bonuses. is almost like this math problem... +100 -100 = 0. giving galente this option gives 100 points to galente giving this option to other races removes that 100 points.
the drones are not limitless because if we go by (emporors) idea then it is very time consuming as well as causing hull damage while your being shot at in a mission. pluss dont forget my idea locks the drones to the ship unless destroyed. so you cant use this method to make isk.
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:46:00 -
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exactly what im trying to say!
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Klavayne
Pack Of Shadows
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Posted - 2007.04.24 18:19:00 -
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You can have this feature if i can produce scourge missiles in my nighthawk. Personally, i dont think its even worth it. It'll ruin lot of setups, if you feel the need to repair the structure in battle, and most people dont lose drones often enough that they need to build them in a ship.
And btw, why are you so quick to judge that everyone else is a noob. This "I was playing eve before..." is rubbish. Being an older player doesnt exempt you from being wrong from time to time. (Especially when 'old' in your eyes only means a year and a half)
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.24 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
i happen to moonlight as a programmer (games only).
Actually, this is more BS.
In one thread you're some navy commander, in another a mathematics PhD, and now you're a game programmer?
Excuse me while I laugh at you...
My advice would be to:
1) Seek councelling regarding Multiple Personality Disorder.
2) Finish School (spelling).
3) Stop polluting forums with your random brainfarts.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.24 23:35:00 -
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im not a navy commander im an intell advisor for special operation unit tactics.
this is my job!
i do not hold a PHD in mathmatics but my math skills are far above average!
math is a prerequisit to all computer related training and i just mention i moonlight as a programmer meaning i make little to no money with this hobby.
besides my roomate happens to hold 3 jobs and 3 very difficult jobs in diferent parts of the country so if i did claim to have all this wich i dont it is still possible given my age!
im 35 and probably have more years in school than you have on this earth!
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6Bagheera9
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.25 00:44:00 -
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You have now been set to -10.0 standing, if I see you outside of Hi-Sec you're a dead man.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
STK Scientific
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.25 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
im not a navy commander im an intell advisor for special operation unit tactics.
this is my job!
i do not hold a PHD in mathmatics but my math skills are far above average!
math is a prerequisit to all computer related training and i just mention i moonlight as a programmer meaning i make little to no money with this hobby.
besides my roomate happens to hold 3 jobs and 3 very difficult jobs in diferent parts of the country so if i did claim to have all this wich i dont it is still possible given my age!
im 35 and probably have more years in school than you have on this earth!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHA
If you really were that smart, you'd know that this is a terrible, terrible, terrible idea.
It's simply awful.
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.25 02:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 25/04/2007 02:49:07
Somehow I doubt you are anywhere close to 35, probably less than half that. Either that or you are suffering from severe psychological disorder(s) and should seek immediate treatment.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.26 20:33:00 -
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lol you people have an inability to remain on subjects.
are that ugly or suffer from lack of intamacy so much as to constantly ridicule people.
all i know is im glad this is internet not person to person cuz i was born and raised violent so i have my thoghts.
but i keep a level head and try to stay on subject so i dont act jovinile like you people.
you people all have the same answers! not only in my post but every post i see!
it wont work!
its unballanced!
its to powerfull!
ok great idea if it make me stronger!
you need to think outside the box, consider how each race feals about the same subject. just cuz it hurts me and my play style or favorite ship setup doent mean over all it brings more fun more variety more advresaty.
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.26 21:23:00 -
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So now you are threatening to kick my ass in real life because of a forum post?
Your intelligence keeps "amazing me".
And on the subject, some people actually took it serious, I pity them. Stop bumping the thread and let this silly idea die.
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Tharsgaard
Caldari
Delta Troop 4th Cavalry Space Forces
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Posted - 2007.04.26 21:45:00 -
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Emporors Champain = spawnsupreme. spawnsupreme = emporors champain. 
And to the idea, just bad, really really bad, i would try to be constructive, but judging by the OP's reply's to anything constructive i wont bother.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.27 03:38:00 -
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really! you think eporors chamian is my alt or something haha do you wanna see each of my alts i will post here to show all my alts and eporors is not one of them.
but who cares i wont even bother to try and fight you on it...
not worth my time. all i know is there are a few poeple here that suported my idea with an open mind an there thos of you who claim to be out of the closet flamers....
not sure why flammers in this game seem so angry
some of the flamers i know in real life seem much more happy ***s.
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Captain Crimson
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Posted - 2007.04.27 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Crimson on 27/04/2007 05:01:35
spawnsupreme and emperors champion..... just look at all the stupid posts you've done, do you even know EVE? Comparing stuff in real life is silly, it's a a game set god knows when in the future.
This poorly thought out idea was probably made from the fact you lost all your drones in a mission.. in which case, cry some more, but don't spam the forums with useless ideas. The fact you have to relate to your 'real life' (ironic as you are lying on this) achievements shows you have been beaten on the forum. So learn to get over it! And saying 'o i cant bother to reply' is another attempt to get your ego back by trying to act tough.... oh dear.
you need a severe lesson in EVE, life, and hopefully death.
Trolling over.
Originally by: Tuxford
I have already expressed my personal opinion on this and it was very positive (something about happy in the pants).
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Dagnis
Chaos Reborn
1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.04.27 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: Dagnis on 27/04/2007 08:34:05
*NVM*
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Scout IIV
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Posted - 2007.04.27 08:38:00 -
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SpawnSupreme = Emporors Champian
Because they both spell
Caldari: cildari
Gallente: Galente
Minmatar: minmitar
Amarr: Ammar
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Jessi Maran
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Posted - 2007.04.29 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jessi Maran on 29/04/2007 01:47:22
A 'constructive' post: How about producing from equivalent minerals instead? at 100% more minerals than BPC cost.
Bad idea or good idea, this reminds me of the Protoss Carriers, now that was (and still is) a great game. Starcraft anyone ?
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Brisi
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.04.29 02:23:00 -
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Translation:
Hey everybody,
let's take a single game mechanic, that works flawlessly, and scrap it. Yes you heard me, scrap it all together. Then we come up with some half-assed idea, which needs tons of balancing to implement, and will probably need a lot more over the next 2 years. Once it is completely perfect, we'll scrap that one. Then we come up with a new idea. This is like the best idea ever. I rule.
Also, I'm a Navy intelligense officer, my dad works with plane assembly mechanics, I'm 35 years old. My roommate has 3 of the most complicated jobs in the world, all over the country no less. My math skills are incredible, and I own. Therefore, I can keep posting my ****ty ideas, and I won't listen to any of you, because you don't make sense.
Wait a minute, I just had the bestest idea of all. Let's turn EVE off! Yeah you heard me, completely close it down. I don't need arguments or reasons, because it's a good idea. If any of you tries to contradict me, I 'll just tell you your reasons are jibberish.
Oh right, I almost forgot. I own.
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Posted - 2007.04.29 14:09:00 -
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Got bored reading after around 70% of the first page, so I dunno if this has been said already.
But your argument about the ships being piloted and maintained by a single pilot (the pod pilot) is just wrong, do some research, then you can post stuff.
A few examples:
Badger: Crew 150
Tempest: Crew 6500
Dominix: Crew 6200
Iteron: Crew 90
Maller: Crew 800
Megathron: Crew 6900
Raven: Crew 7400
Vexor: Crew 580
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.29 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 29/04/2007 16:32:21
where do you get that info?
most of the people think 1 man does it all there ia no crews its all controled by the brain.
that is not feasable tho cuz if the ship recieves a vital damage then it requires the the dexteraty and skill of hands!
my roomate and i think we should pod some of you homosapians.
first of all i dont think any of you realize what this rule is about
second: if it is so bad of an idea why was itthought up and tested by CCP?
third: of all this idea from ccp was slightly modified to be more funtional.
forth: have any of you even bother for a brief second even concidered its funtionality?
fifth: do any of you even have a creative mind to think of new ideas or fixes to bad ideas to make them work?
come on rather than bashing something you dont understand, why not hop on my side of fence and figgure out a new way to work this old idea
i mean why not? CCP talking about removeing every game mechanic and replaceing new one that require a scanner to do anything even to find your butt.
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Marquis Dean
Energy.
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.04.29 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
that require a scanner to do anything even to fund your butt.
I, er, what?
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Captain Crimson
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Posted - 2007.04.29 17:07:00 -
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bump for more comedy value.
Originally by: Tuxford
I have already expressed my personal opinion on this and it was very positive (something about happy in the pants).
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.04.29 17:10:00 -
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so wait, you are a expert mathematitian, who plans navy seal ops and writes programming by night... and shares a flat? I would think they would pay you a bit better if you were a top military tactician, and you keep contardicting your previous posts.
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Sasu Odaie
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Posted - 2007.04.29 18:16:00 -
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Let's look at this purely logically mmmkay?
I think many of the posters here have perhaps judged you harshly based upon your post's complete lack of grammar (and your own apparent illiteracy of course). If you are what you claim to be, which is monumentally doubtful, I sincerely hope you're not English, as, well, I really bloody hope that you're not in charge of our military.
In any case, I would hope that anyone who wished to formulate a coherent argument would at least spend a few moments checking their post for huge errors. After all, If you want to be taken seriously by anyone over the age of fourteen, literacy is a must...
Regarding your idea, let's discuss it in the context of EVE. EVE is perhaps one of the most comprehensively justified games there is. Why in the world would drones simply disappear when you leave? Hell, why would something made from materials be unrefinable? Why would something that could be held in a drone bay or deployed out of said bay into space not be able to be placed in your items bay? There are no logical reasons behind these "balancing factors" of yours.
On the other hand: Cheers, this thread was hilarious.
Bye now!
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.30 09:28:00 -
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you couldnt be more wrong! most people in military have a hard tims spelling words larger than 4 words!
i simply do not have the slightest care in the world if you like my english or how i use it or lack there of.
my only goal is to place a statement and creativity and fixes to old broken ideas with potential.
if you dont like it leap off a cliff!
i am paid well enough to have anything i want but i chose to have a roomate cuz i chosse to have more play money rather than pay bills only.
while you singe people struggle alone i have companionship and many toys like jet skis boat car and truck and 3 computers with 2 monitors each dirt bike skate board sports martial arts.
this is what i rather do with all my money!
its my choise and im happy with it!
and unfortunatly the US government does not pay me very well. i make less than 100k a year!
well you guys should get back to what your good at! sucking chrome off hitches.
i dont need anymorecoments or slander from you chumps.
just keep your pee pee lickers closed.
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.04.30 09:36:00 -
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we dont want to know how many jet skis you have, we just want you to follow this rule:
If it is not broken, dont try and fix it!
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Alpine 69
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.04.30 09:57:00 -
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Stop playing homeworld, in eve, you manufacture stuff in station, not in your ship.....
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.30 09:59:00 -
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those are limitations to keep the people from exploiting this idea andgetting stupid with it.
you want me to put logic behind them oh how easy that is!
your ship requires minerals to be built but if you try to reuse materials that have already have been fassioned into its finnest state then you wish to reuse the materials again the quality would be worthless but yet still funtional.
like a sword, if you wish to melt down your great sword to make a katana the steal will become brittle and never as good quality but yet you can still create the katana.
making the materials if you refine the drones worthless or better yes just get scrap metal out of refine drones thats easy!
why the drones are locked to the ship! if you tell me you sell quality drones and i find out that these drones are referbished and crated of spair parts i will pod you and the station you do buisness! that is bad practice to try to falsely clame quality and offer junk, in the heat of battle no one will notice the quality of drones but if others see the junk it no telling what sort of reaction.
hears an idea why they simply disapear they are not original drones so when drone controle is broken rather than shutting down they just simply stay on course and fly and fly till thier gone!
ya know the circutry cat be as state of the art if your building them on the go! so there is no on off switch they are on and dont turn off till destroyed
ok i gave you your answers why those limitations would make sence!
any more bright ideas? none of you can challenge me!
i can justify even why god put your waist of space on this earth!
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Prisoner 5295A
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Posted - 2007.05.02 12:28:00 -
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I guess Spawn has all the answers...
well it seems like a tough fight to get the point accross in this thread.
I have to say looking at all the good and bad stuff said i hope this option becomes available.
I understand it all and say props for a sweet idea!
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Marquis Dean
Energy.
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.02 12:33:00 -
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wtf WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL ALIVE!!?? 
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Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.02 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Gladiator Jonny on 02/05/2007 12:54:15
Originally by: Marquis Dean
wtf WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL ALIVE!!??
not sure, i managed to persuade myself from flaming it early on after alittle help 
the fact that this actually came back to the top, makes me wonder where it started. and who should be punished!
edit: i started a 3rd page. oh noes
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Kataclismo
Gallente
The Dragon Consortium
SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2007.09.18 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme
how about making ships also able to manufature drones...
it takes like 7 minuts to make 5 drones so if you place a BPO in a ship it will be able to build drones up to the max drone compacity.
rather than useing minerals to create them use hull points to create them.
example: you launch into a mission and you set drones to be manufactured.
none can be made cuz drone capacity is full but if you lose all 5 cuz of warp or just destroyed.
all of a sudden your hull takes 10% damage and in 7 minuts you will have 5 new drones!
tell me this is unballanced and i will laugh at you like a ****** stabbing his eye!
This is unballanced since you will have this manner a "dominix" wich can stand in a fight FOREVER, also, my last POS had so many drones that i had to sell some, they gave me around 50M ISK... nice hum?
if you generally lost your drones ou they are destroyed, make sure to buy 50 and not 5, and I dont think the drone builders cant suply the demand, the price of drones is decreasing and they have each time more drones to be build, have you ever see the market sell orders near jita, rens or orsulaert?
I think its more "usefull" to allow you to jetison drones "assembled" from your cargo-hold, BUT its also unballanced since it allows you to have instantly more drones when yours are dead... just take the max your ship can allow and be happy whit it ok? Is a good idea to have a ship with an assembly line like ammo manufacturer
- Imagine a "assembler-capitalship" that can produce ammo in the middle of a battle, it self can only small, med and large sized weapons, and can produce ammo 10 times faster but consume stront to do it for each minute, and one insane quantity... Its a good idea if you are in the middle of nowhere and most of your ships in the fleet do not have the autonomy to support a war... but it never takes too long that you have to reload the ammo you have with you in your cargo hold.
just my five dollars.
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