Danika you're talking about a million + HP on a Dread of course and it's worth every ISK it can take a lots of punishment.

The ship I am talking about when it has to use it's weapons it will be a sitting duck a flimsy Cruiser with targeting range around the 30k at optimal range

Yeeeeaaah... umm... here is the thing:

Speed and mobility are preferred over massive walls of HP that are "rooted" in one place for 5 minutes.

Hint: This is why many people have an issue with the Rorqual's new PANIC system. They want to be able to get their ship out ASAP, but the new system roots the ship down until support can arrive to save it.
So the solution many have employed is to not use Rorqual at all and instead use the new Porpoise ship (which is very mobile).

This is also why battleships, which do pretty much what you are asking for (but on a paired down level), are generally passed over unless there is a structure bash and/or large amounts of RR involved.

And even then... HACs (with a quarter of the HP of battleships) are usually preferred. They can maneuver around the battlefield more easily and GTFO relatively quicker.


I would personally LOVE to fly around a highly mobile ship that can deal dreadnought level DPS. And I certainly would not limit my targets to capital ships.
I would use it for EVERYTHING.

Why?
Because all I would need to melt any subcaptial ship is range (which your limited targeting range would not stop me from achieving) and a few well placed shots (which proper maneuvering will get me).


And no... lack of tank would not be much of an issue.
I have flown in cruisers and battlecruisers that have had minimal tank, but high speed and damage potential.
As long as you keep speed up and keep your fleet scattered but within each other's firing range... you can nuke anything that threatens your group die in seconds.

This idea would make that tactic grossly effective.

the ship it won't be able to move when the special module is active and with signature resolution of around 2000 will not do much damage to sub capitals .

I avoided involving battleships due to their signature radius sense fighters can counter them more effectively

By anti- subcap do you mean able to hit a frig or dessy or just able to hit a cruiser or battlecruiser?

This is less a rock-paper-scissors game and more a game in which the slightly larger ship wins. If your ship is a bit smaller than your opponent's ship, you will usually lose that fight. But if you're a lot smaller, you can skate by and give them a pressed fruit bowl as you pass.

Your destroyer has little to fear from Danica's Nyx, so why are you so bent on taking it down with a destroyer? Give the poor girl a break.





Here's the way it works:
Titan beats Supercarrier
Supercapital beats Capital
Dreadnought beats Carrier
Dreadnought and Carrier beats Battleship
Battleship beats Battlecruiser
Battlecruiser beats Cruiser
Cruiser beats Destroyer
Strategic Cruiser beats Destroyer
Strategic Cruiser beats Cruiser
Strategic Cruiser beats Battlecruiser
Strategic Cruiser beats Battleship
Strategic Cruiser beats Pirate Faction Battleship
Strategic Cruiser beats two Pirate Faction Battleships at once
Destroyer beats Frigate
Interceptor beats Frigate
Caldari and Amarr beat Gallente
Minmatar beats Everybody
Nobody beats Interceptor
Claw is the only invincible ship in the game.


If you want to beat a ship with stuff the same size or smaller, you have to gang up in superior numbers. Two titans beats one titan. A thousand frigates beats Marlona Sky's Moros. A few hundred Pandemic Legion strategic cruisers beats ten thousand frigates. A dozen TEST capitals beats a hundred IT capitals. It's all a game of numbers.

I've been around some big and small fleet fights, I can say the small fleet attacks in foreign territory is the most fun ,
Big fleet operations with Battle ships and Capital ships is to slow and many times you get stood up when the other fleet decides not to take you on . +æ+++++++¦

If they get around 2000 to 3000 maX in DPS will not be that extreme , and this ship can be the poor man's Capital ship defense

I like the general concept, but I think a T2 attack battlecruiser with a third of the DPS of a dread would be more balanced in tems of cost, damage output and vulnerability (plus it just makes sense given what attack battlecruisers do right now).

Also, for those of you who say that capitals need a support fleet, I invite you to look at carriers. At not too significant numbers, they begin to alpha off any subcap in the game, from an interceptor to a well-tanked Rattlesnake. They need a counter that is not a dread-bomb or supers, and this could be the perfect counter. Sure, they would die quickly, but they could win the ISK war if there isn't a proper subcap fleet to counter them

But your idea is exactly the same as the OPs idea in that it renders dreads completely worthless?

Also, for those of you who say that capitals need a support fleet, I invite you to look at carriers. At not too significant numbers, they begin to alpha off any subcap in the game, from an interceptor to a well-tanked Rattlesnake.

...In the era of fighters that can go 2000km, dreads are already borderline completely worthless. They need a serious buff, but that goes beyond the scope of this thread.

What you mean was, "in an era were a pointed carrier with maybe a capital afterburner moves at 200m/s, a Dread will sit for 5 minutes and solo it - every time."

Sure dreads can beat carriers. But try and mobilize a dread fleet to attack a carrier fleet. If you even manage to lock them down, you're going to have a hell of a time getting them to stay locked down. They can pop bubbles and HICs like they were bubble wrap, then jump out.