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Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
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Posted - 2011.12.26 15:51:00 -
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JonnyRandom wrote:You say I'll need to have both monitors run the same resolution? That could be a problem... my current monitor only supports 1680x1050
Go t o your computer's display and settings, you can tell it to make your screen run at any resolution that you want. Make sure that the screen with the highest resolution is the same as the screen with the lowest resolution. This will make it easier on your video card.
My lowest res screen is 1440 by 900, and so I have to set my high res screen to the same settings in order to make eve lag less on 2 screens. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
45
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Posted - 2011.12.26 16:55:00 -
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CCP Stillman wrote:Blue Binary wrote:CCP Stillman wrote:Can you actually get 8GB sticks? I've not been able to track down any non-ECC ones. And I've never found any in Iceland nor Denmark. You can buy non-ECC 8GB modules straight from one of the manufacturers. Crucial (owned by Micron) sell direct, they ship worldwide too. UK Site and US site. They also sell a 16GB module and, if you have the money, a 32GB module; but your motherboard needs to support ECC modules for these babies. I've been using Crucial for over 10 years and (touch wood) have never had to RMA their memory. They have a memory assembly plant here in Scotland, so they are always in stock and delivered next day. That's pretty hot. A shame my P55-GD65 can only hold 16gb of RAM. Though that's still twice what I have now, which really should be sufficient until the next Intel tock(22nm tock, unless the 22nm tick is a must-have upgrade. Who knows  )
care to get some answers to a 80+ thread? |

JonnyRandom
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Posted - 2011.12.26 16:55:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:JonnyRandom wrote:You say I'll need to have both monitors run the same resolution? That could be a problem... my current monitor only supports 1680x1050 Go t o your computer's display and settings, you can tell it to make your screen run at any resolution that you want. Make sure that the screen with the highest resolution is the same as the screen with the lowest resolution. This will make it easier on your video card. My lowest res screen is 1440 by 900, and so I have to set my high res screen to the same settings in order to make eve lag less on 2 screens.
This is what I don't get. Reducing the resolution of the bigger monitor to fit the smaller one is counter-intuitive. And is certainly a waste of the bigger res monitor. Why do I have to have them both the same resolution? There are people in this thread that say they use monitors with different resolutions without problems, so it's not a hardware issue, right? |

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
463
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Posted - 2011.12.26 18:37:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:1. Both screens need to be at the same resolution (regardless of what type of screens you have) 2. You will probably get lag and low FPS on two screens if you don't have a great computer setup. 3. To reduce lag reduce the resolution of the actual EVE Client and run it in window mode 4. Expand said windows with your mouse until they are the size of your screen 5. DO NOT double click on the game to make it stick to the full size of the screen (this will cause lag with lesser video cards) It can be the same size as your screen, you just can "sticky it", don't ask me why.  So make sure that you resize it with your mouse.
1. Not true. I run a 1680x1050 as my secondary display with a 1920x1080 below it as the primary.
2. True for WinXP, not true for Win7 (in fact I went from getting 15-20 FPS with 2 clients up to 30-60 FPS with 2 clients with no change in hardware when I updated to Win7).
3. True, running EVE in windowed mode is best if you're going to multi-box across 1+ monitors. The secondary accounts can be run in tiny 1024x768 windows. The primary account runs at either 1440x900 or a 1600x900 window.
4 & 5. Optional.
There are VESA stands that you can buy out there which let you stack (2) monitors vertically on your desktop. It works best with a pair of 22" monitors, but you can stack 27" monsters as long as you have enough depth on your desk to push them back about 6". |

Enquirer
Core Industrialist Resurrected Shadow of xXDEATHXx
4
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Posted - 2011.12.26 20:17:00 -
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I need just 1 more account and i can run missions with a guy repping me, thats all. Now 6 accounts later....I only need 2 more and ill be fine.
Running 6 accounts on 1 pc with 2 screens... Key was making sure your pc has plenty of memory (currently have 12 gigs of on board memory) runs smooth.
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Harleigh
Genbuku. Nulli Secunda
4
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Posted - 2011.12.27 00:44:00 -
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Enquirer wrote:I need just 1 more account and i can run missions with a guy repping me, thats all. Now 6 accounts later....I only need 2 more and ill be fine.
Running 6 accounts on 1 pc with 2 screens... Key was making sure your pc has plenty of memory (currently have 12 gigs of on board memory) runs smooth.
Dude, that is the story of every EVE addicts life :)
I started with one, then just needed another for ....
7 years , 8 accounts , 2 pc's and 6 monitors later, I still want another account cause now 2 are stuck in supers :(
And as I wrote this I thought to myself "Good thing my wife puts up with this" , then I looked across the hallway into her home office as she sat there playing Skyrim on a triple monitor layout and I didn't feel so bad anymore :)
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Guillaume Adoulin
Fiveleaf Incorperated
0
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Posted - 2011.12.27 01:02:00 -
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I duel box using my laptop(Dell inspiron i5) and a 32'' LED TV as the extended display. Runs pretty smooth on moderate graphics settings. Aside from a few overheating issues that plague my particular laptop model this is my favorite way to duel box. Saves a ton of space and EVE looks great on LED  |

Darren Corley
Echelon Munitions
8
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Posted - 2011.12.27 01:30:00 -
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As much as i'll get flamed or whatnot for this, here goes.
First, it's dual, not duel, you don't fight your box do you?
Secondly, getting tired of Manufacturers calling them LED displays. They're not, they're LCD. What they are is LED backlit as opposed to CCFL backlit. |

Cipher Jones
195
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Posted - 2011.12.27 01:46:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Funny story. I used to do lvl4 missions with one monitor and one account.
Then i got a second account, and alt-tabed.
Then i got a second monitor, and transitioned between them.
Then i got ISBoxer, and used both accounts in one monitor. Without alt-tabbing. Using 100% of the screen with one client.
Funny story, linux has been doing that for years and years with no extra software needed. Recently Windows has copied many features of linux, I hope multiple desktops per monitors one of them. I love the performance and security of linux, and love the DX in windows. Maybe someday I can have both.
To answer the OP, you aint playin EvE till you're running multiple accounts and monitors. Until then, you are just playing between "trial" and "full".
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |

Guillaume Adoulin
Fiveleaf Incorperated
0
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Posted - 2011.12.27 03:05:00 -
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Darren Corley wrote:As much as i'll get flamed or whatnot for this, here goes.
First, it's dual, not duel, you don't fight your box do you?
Secondly, getting tired of Manufacturers calling them LED displays. They're not, they're LCD. What they are is LED backlit as opposed to CCFL backlit.
Awesome, but aside from correcting people you really didn't add anything to the discussion
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Darren Corley
Echelon Munitions
8
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Posted - 2011.12.27 03:14:00 -
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Guillaume Adoulin wrote:Darren Corley wrote:As much as i'll get flamed or whatnot for this, here goes.
First, it's dual, not duel, you don't fight your box do you?
Secondly, getting tired of Manufacturers calling them LED displays. They're not, they're LCD. What they are is LED backlit as opposed to CCFL backlit. Awesome, but aside from correcting people you really didn't add anything to the discussion 
I already added to the discussion in the last few pages. It's just when companies call them LED, when they're not real LED displays, it causes confusion with REAL LED based displays, like OLED and AMOLED. Some already say backlit in the description, many do not. |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2011.12.27 03:58:00 -
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LED TV has become the standard. Such as laser tv which in reality is just another light source for the throw. Yes there are the extremely large LED billboards and OLED type tech for phones. Yet for low power display LED is just easier for the layman to understand.
And the cost per inch or per pixel is so different between all three that I doubt anyone is going to be seriously confused for long. |

Darren Corley
Echelon Munitions
8
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Posted - 2011.12.27 04:10:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:LED TV has become the standard. Such as laser tv which in reality is just another light source for the throw. Yes there are the extremely large LED billboards and OLED type tech for phones. Yet for low power display LED is just easier for the layman to understand.
And the cost per inch or per pixel is so different between all three that I doubt anyone is going to be seriously confused for long.
Except the cost of a Good CCFL Backlit LCD isn't really different from a good LED backlit LCD.
The issue some have is that many LED backlit displays are cheaply done, and don't look as nearly as good as they could.
Plus right now, for people like me who like more realistic colors, CCFL is the way to go. LED backlighting tends to be brighter and have better blacks, but also tends to be shifted towards one color more than CCFL. Means more adjusting the display. But they still don;t compare to CCFL for color reproduction. Most won't care, but some do. LED may or may not get to that point, we'll see.
Either way, it's still an LCD, just different light source. So if the panel itself is low quality, no light source is going to make it look good. |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2011.12.27 05:01:00 -
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You must be speaking of early generation panels using LED backlit. My current screen looks just as good as my power eating CCFL and I don't have to worry about it heating my room.
Yes I know that is likely a low priority for you. Yet for me and many others it is a great investment. Especially in big screen TVs where the older tech eats as much power as a CRT. |

Darren Corley
Echelon Munitions
8
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Posted - 2011.12.27 07:46:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:You must be speaking of early generation panels using LED backlit. My current screen looks just as good as my power eating CCFL and I don't have to worry about it heating my room.
Yes I know that is likely a low priority for you. Yet for me and many others it is a great investment. Especially in big screen TVs where the older tech eats as much power as a CRT.
No i'm talking about how many displays are edge-lit. This is commonly considered not as good as CCFL, but it does make the display thinner. As for power consumption, yes, LEDs themselves use less power than CCFLs, but unless the company puts in good power saving electronics, the point is moot. I can't say which do and do not, but I know some have been shown to use more power on average than a similar CCFL lit display.
I'm not trying to knock LED here, I just see companies using the LED name as if it was the display type alone. And seeing people tout all the benefits as if they're 100% guaranteed in all panels using it, all the time. Right now there are many times CCFL is the obvious choice, in the future, maybe not. But we're not there yet. |

Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2011.12.27 08:18:00 -
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I wont argue with that.
And we have gotten way off topic anyway. Lets steer it back...
Jonny did you decide what you are going to do to run 2 accounts? |

Fidelium Mortis
Quantum Cats Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2011.12.27 15:10:00 -
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I run 3 (24" 1920x1200) screens between 2 computers with a KVM switch to swap the images depending on what I'm doing. It's pretty cheap to piece together a secondary computer that can run EVE especially if you're don't need all the eye candy turned up for a secondary client. Most monitors these days have a standard holes on the back that will support the VESA mount found on multiple-monitor stands (a huge desk space saver). ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon |

David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
233
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Posted - 2011.12.27 16:33:00 -
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Roh Voleto wrote:First of all: You want two monitors anyway. After only a few days you'll start asking yourself how you made do with just one.
As far as EVE is concerned: I simply play in windowed mode. This way you can switch between clients just like any other application.
lol 3 monitors is even better  Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
24
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Posted - 2011.12.27 17:10:00 -
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Sassums wrote:Was just going to post about this:
I currently have a machine that is unable to run EVE on multiple screens - the minute I drag the game onto the second screen, the FPS drops significantly to a point where you are like a fast paced slide show. It also happens when I launch the second account onto the second screen. According to the GM's or Tech GM's they said it was Windows XP being unable to support the ability to run across both screens. One is a 22" and the other a 24". I tried running the game at the same resolution on both screens and different resolutions, and finally tried running the game across both screens using their different max resolutions, and then the max resolution for the smaller screen - none of the above worked.
Current specs are: Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz 4GB RAM (3.25 useable due to XP 32bit). Nvidia 560ti (DDR5 - 1GB)
Not sure what the issue is, the graphics card is more than capable of handing the instances of EVE. Has EVE become more CPU demanding rather than GPU? The ram is low I know, but it should be able to handle it (I can dual boot no problem, triple boxing starts to run into issues)
I plan on upgrading this PC:
Intel i7-2700k at 3.5Ghz - Turboboost up to 3.9Ghz 16GB DDR3 Ram Nvidia 560ti (DDR5 - 1GB) - Same graphics card from old computer
The intel motherboard that comes with the CPU has 1 PCI-E 16.0 slot or I can set it to run 2 PCI-E 8.0 slots in SLI. My question is - whats better?
1 560ti at 16.0 or 2 at 8.0 (I'm fuzzy in that area whats the difference between 16.0 and 8.0)?
Or would it just be best to stick with one card, but find something better than the 560ti?
I want to be able to run 2 instances on 2 separate screens at the same time, and be able to switch back and fourth while using both of them.
I also want to be able to dual box a third account on one of the screens.
Any help is appreciated.
Windows XP.... There is a word that should be able to help you somewhat... UPGRADE!! It will fix it all for you... |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.12.27 17:47:00 -
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These wall mounting things work good
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/BaxterT/Computer%20Room/ComputerLivingRoom1.jpg
And please no comments on the rolls of paper towels. *snigger*
And then there is my computer room
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/BaxterT/Computer%20Room/ComputerMerge2.jpg |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
460
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Posted - 2011.12.27 17:51:00 -
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That must be a PITA to use with the monitors scattered all over at different angles and such. Looks harder to use than the setup on Swordfish.
edit: also, nice back scratcher. It's half-nerd, half-redneck! |

Darren Corley
Echelon Munitions
8
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:27:00 -
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Fidelium Mortis wrote:I run 3 (24" 1920x1200) screens between 2 computers with a KVM switch to swap the images depending on what I'm doing. It's pretty cheap to piece together a secondary computer that can run EVE especially if you're don't need all the eye candy turned up for a secondary client. Most monitors these days have a standard holes on the back that will support the VESA mount found on multiple-monitor stands (a huge desk space saver).
If you have more than one computer and each has it's own monitor, I find using Synergy or Input Director(as stated in an earlier post of mine) to be better solutions. No need to use a switch, just move the mouse off screen and you control one of the other computers. |

Barakkus
1220
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:47:00 -
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DelBoy Trades wrote:One of my monitors is 1680x1050, the other 1920x1080, no problem. Just copy your eve client so you have 2 with different resolutions, call one "right" and one "left".
You don't have to have 2 separate copies of the client:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Multiple_clients
Been using that method for years, only need to patch one client when there's a downloadable update.
Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 (2.66mhz) Used to use ATI 2600 XT, got an ATI 6870 3 gigs of ram, XP 32 bit
Runs fine, I can have both clients optimized for quality and works good. Each client maintains it's own set of settings as well. Less headache. http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
276
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:49:00 -
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I don't know what you guys are talking about...my normal install of EvE allows me to run as many clients as I want from it. The only thing I have to do is change the resolution and what monitor it appears on when I open it a second time, third time and whatever. Never gone past 3. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX!
Support our boobies!-á[url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24221&find=unread[/url]
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Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2011.12.27 20:08:00 -
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You know on that note would it be possible in the future for EVE to have its own config file that can be started with different shortcuts?
Nothing fancy just. a shortcut with the command Client1 or Client2 meaning create a new config file in the folder if there is not one.
Just a thought. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
24
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Posted - 2011.12.28 07:09:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I don't know what you guys are talking about...my normal install of EvE allows me to run as many clients as I want from it. The only thing I have to do is change the resolution and what monitor it appears on when I open it a second time, third time and whatever. Never gone past 3.
With seperate clients you need not change resolution all the time :P |

Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
140
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Posted - 2011.12.28 10:04:00 -
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Monitors you say? MONITORS? Check this out.
http://www.cambio.net/monitors.jpg
To her it doesn't matter much.-á It's chasms have been leapt, and she leans upon the skepticism of her chosen fate. |

Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
25
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Posted - 2011.12.29 06:11:00 -
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Thats alot of CRT.... rather sad actually... |
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