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Zupkuck
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:31:00 -
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Cry more, carebear.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: umop 3pisdn on 20/04/2007 00:33:32
My main is part of the coalition. No surprises here.
The plexes were bugged out of their brains. Dont give me that crap about losing 2bil a day income when ive seen them being farmed 23/7.
Respawn timers dont just "get bugged" someone changes them.
FIX Ran their better plexes and the bob ones near their turf constantly... for hours and hours on end... until coalition pilots started running them because theres nothing else to do in the area at the moment.
As soon as it became clear that we would profit more from these than FIX/BoB could... dark shikari pulled the plug... with a public Eve-O *****... one that the devs couldnt ignore like they do the petition pile.
Dark Shikari may well be innocent but there were a ****load of people within his alliance who knew.
They were farming the crap out of it.
The timing of his little revelation seems kinda wrong to me.
So reopen the damn things. The coalition will farm them and then you'll be pretty ****ed about that too.
oh... one more thing... we fought for your plexes... we took them off you... you had them locked. hurray.
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Buppa
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Posted - 2007.04.20 01:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Scorched Evil
I imagine RA will be in here to thwart any effort to protest their cheating shortly being that they alt run almost every southern complex uncontested....
Oh yes, it is RA that is cheating. I absolutely remember BOB in here protesting these broken complexes months and months ago when they were added ONLY to their space. You know, space that was 100% 0.0 until somehow CCP decided to make it 50% NPC station space and still leave it better than all other pure conquerable space.
Oh wait, haha, BOB didn't mention them broken (through Dark Shikari) until they had lost control of all their complexes.
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.04.20 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Brolly
Originally by: Ker Ching
Originally by: RedFall
Let's just close all complexes forever. That should solve the problem.
/signed.
Get rid of static complexes and make exploration the ONLY way of finding any complex.
Yups, and introduce many more complexes for phun and prophet
I concur, I need my own complex. Dunno who this "Phun" fellow is, though.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.20 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 20/04/2007 01:16:51
Originally by: Buppa
Originally by: Scorched Evil
I imagine RA will be in here to thwart any effort to protest their cheating shortly being that they alt run almost every southern complex uncontested....
Oh yes, it is RA that is cheating. I absolutely remember BOB in here protesting these broken complexes months and months ago when they were added ONLY to their space. You know, space that was 100% 0.0 until somehow CCP decided to make it 50% NPC station space and still leave it better than all other pure conquerable space.
Oh wait, haha, BOB didn't mention them broken (through Dark Shikari) until they had lost control of all their complexes.
What world do you life in? In the one everyone else lives in, Band of Brothers still controls Delve.
P.S. As far as I know, the bug was introduced in Revelations 1.4.1, not "months ago". And Red Alliance is still farming 800 billion ISK a week off complexes and selling it for real life cash, but apparently since BoB are really bad people, nobody cares.
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Morrath
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zupkuck
Cry more, carebear.
right on que.
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Buppa
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Posted - 2007.04.20 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
What world do you life in? In the one everyone else lives in, Band of Brothers still controls Delve.
English mother f'er, do you speak it? Where did I say BoB didn't control Delve? The facts are simple. Delve was 100% conquerable space UNTIL CCP out of nowhere 'decided' to make it 50% NPC space aka BoB no longer has to keep POS for sov in place. The Blood Raider complexes were added with Kali, not 1.4.1 as far as you know is very short. Do you expect us to believe that an alliance that was receiving T2 BPOs and significant changes making it easier to control their space wasn't aware of the broken complexes added to their space for months?
Face it Shikari, you are what you are, a mouthpiece. You (aka BoB) have lost control of those complexes, now is the time to bring them up. DBP lacks the balls to do it, so you have been elected.
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Ivor Gunn
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Posted - 2007.04.20 03:38:00 -
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Now, let's remember that it was DS who made the post that got them closed in the first place, so he can hardly be called a whining carebear. He acted with the utmost of honour in the matter. That, and the fact BoB never lost control of their plexes, and also that although the plexes were added with revelations, the spawn timer bug was not added until 1.4.1.
It strikes me that the only people whining about bobbits and their plexes are lowly coalition peons who will never see their masters' complexes, as they obviously dont have an actual clue how these things work, as all they seem to whine about is bobdevhaxspl0its.
Originally by: umop 3pisdn
... we fought for your plexes...
Quite accurate, the fight was purely for complexes. Not one person with any sense could honestly say that the fight was in any way about cleaning eve of cheaters, or scourging eve of people who want to conquer the galaxy. RA made this clear by laying their alt corps in every plex in what was LV n' co's space, then stopping the advance when they had what they wanted; the Angel complexes that made them trillions of isk. So if BoB are guilty of exploiting their complexes and keeping the bugs quiet, then neither side is innocent.
The exploitation of plexes has happened before and will happen again. Locking of plexes as they become bugged is not an option. The only viable option is removal of static plexes, then making the same plexes spawn once or twice a day in a random location in the region that is only possible to find through exploration. This removes the ability of alliances like RA and BoB to just place an alt corp with a mothership in a 10/10 system and farm it day and night like clockwork. This makes the complexes what they were meant to be; regional resources. It gives the complexes to the people (see: pets) who actually hold the region and fight for it daily, rather than whichever alliance has their alt corp in place.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.04.20 04:42:00 -
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Wow, people really want your blood DS. One guy flames you for still being in fix when you supposedly ruined your own alliance's plexes, and another guy's flaming you because you ruined other people's plexes. I don't even know who controls the plexes now and i'm convinced this is a bad joke. That'll show you to report things that are exploitable.
Despite the stupid, i'm curious why they'd add NPC stations to delve when they know it's a touchy area.
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Bartholomeus Crane
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Posted - 2007.04.20 08:43:00 -
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Honestly, the politics side of it doesn't matter to me all that much. To me what happened seemed on the level, and that's all I can say.
The point is, should be, and I think everyone agrees to this, is that static complexes, bugs or not, invite farming, and very lucratively so. All this for no effort and hardly any risk. Obviously a situation like this is going to be exploited. Obviously this is going on right now (by both, nay, by all sides).
Equally obviously this has to change before it grows out of hand (if this hasn't happened already).
Now, CCP, in their infinite wisdom (ahum), has implemented a possible alternative, which they are balancing out right now. Why not switch to that? Like now?
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Gerome Doutrande
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.20 09:07:00 -
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If you are in a region that (currently) doesn't have complexes, but you really really want access to complexes, I suggest you go and take over a region that has some.
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Bienurdau Hywoaf
Minmatar
Matari Holo News Network
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Posted - 2007.04.20 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tradiska
Originally by: Bienurdau Hywoaf
Is it fair that there are no complexes of any sort that work or even exist in the 8 new regions added in Revelations?
Is it fair that the asteroid belts in the 8 new regions don't respawn correctly?
Is it fair that a small number have held onto a Tech 2 monopoly for so very long?
Was it fair that BoB was given BPOs by a developer?
Was it fair that BoB was allowed to keep 8 months worth of proceeds from those BPOs even after it was discovered?
EVE isn't about fairness. If it was you'd all be flying the same ships, all systems would be identical, and nothing would be better than anything else. It would be boring stale and die quickly if all things were fair and equal.
They should not endeavor to make all things equal and fair. They should not turn off the other 10/10 plexes, nor any other plexes, nor should they turn off the asteroid belts of other regions.
There are no plexs in new regions. You knew that before you decide to live there... It's not the question here.
The question is: Why the Bob's plexs and not the ra's plexs? The question is: why have CCP closed those plexs without any explains? Lets try to close all the ra/aaa plexs and see what happens thousands petitions incoming i guess
Though I have visited and toured some of the new regions I am not a resident of the new regions. My general lack of standings with anyone prevents me living there, and even makes my little visits dangerous.
As to why they were closed has nothing to do with RA or any of the forces allied against BoB. It was the BoB ally, FIX, through DS that revealed the bugged nature of the new 10/10 complexes with a forum post to General Discussions. It was shortly after his thread that the plexes were closed.
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Flamothron
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:56:00 -
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ho well revelation 1.4.2 comming any news for the closure of 10/10 plex ?
Happy patch deployment :P
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Deva Blackfire
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: aknahra
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
(ah yes - guri 10/10 sucks monkey balls and is hardest 10/10 plex in game... ty for useless plex CCP :)
useless eh?
I'm sure there are quite a few people who would take it over for you
If russkies didnt want to run it i think the plex IS useless.
Anyways it stands open abt 95% of the time. Come, die a bit trying to do this, waste your time and cry at last rewards that are worse than chaining triple BS spawns.
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LoveKebab
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: LoveKebab on 24/04/2007 12:34:44
yep ;/ complex is useless...
10/10 complex that:
- drop only ONE tier and it's 14th (16mil isk)
- u can be in last stage within 10 minutes...
- overall reward is not even close to 1bil (other complexes drop at least 3 best overseers and some stuff so u have about 500-1.5bil reward...
- respawn rate in last stage is insane (i mean NPCs not structure...) and npcs are of the worst kind: web, scram, jammers and u cant do anything - tanker is jammed and since respawn is insane next wave is randomly aggressing other ships in gang(jam, jam, jam - byebye...)
it's worst complex ever
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Tom Shandy
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Posted - 2007.04.24 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Flamothron
Weel here it is. Im asking to Close ALL of EVE 10/10 plex while the Blood Raiders plex are getting fixed.
It is simply du unfair that alliances that does not occupy blood raider space are able to do tens of billions per day while the ones that occupy Blood raider space aint doing a $h!t because thier 10/10 plex are bugged.
Knowing that a 10/10 plex can generate more than 2 Bill/day isk if farmed correctly its not acceptable and mostly not FAIR that ONLY the DELVE, QUERIOUS and PERIOD BASIS 10/10 complex are getting closed. This certainly affects the fairness of the game and also the gamming experiance of an alliance members if the alliance in question can't generate ISK the way ALL alliance does (doing 10/10 plex)
So due to a clear unfairness i ask for the closure of all EVE 10/10 plex until the blood raiders 10/10 plex are fixed.
Mummy Mummy If i cant play then they shouldnt either !!!
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.27 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: LoveKebab
Edited by: LoveKebab on 24/04/2007 12:34:44
yep ;/ complex is useless...
10/10 complex that:
- drop only ONE tier and it's 14th (16mil isk)
- u can be in last stage within 10 minutes...
- overall reward is not even close to 1bil (other complexes drop at least 3 best overseers and some stuff so u have about 500-1.5bil reward...
- respawn rate in last stage is insane (i mean NPCs not structure...) and npcs are of the worst kind: web, scram, jammers and u cant do anything - tanker is jammed and since respawn is insane next wave is randomly aggressing other ships in gang(jam, jam, jam - byebye...)
it's worst complex ever
3 command ships, 2 logistics ships. Sorted.
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Utopian Frontier
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Posted - 2007.04.27 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Hannobaal on 27/04/2007 16:29:58
Remove all complexes from all of Eve.
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Fzoul
KAOS.
KA0S Theory
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Posted - 2007.04.27 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane
I have an idea, lets remove all complexes (except the noobplexes) and turn them into exploration sites! That would solve all the farming issues right there!
/signed
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Ahz
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Posted - 2007.04.27 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ahz on 27/04/2007 17:59:20
Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane
I have an idea, lets remove all complexes (except the noobplexes) and turn them into exploration sites! That would solve all the farming issues right there!
/signed hard.
I also like the idea of moving 'plexes: Idea!
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Hyuuga Veralis
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:33:00 -
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I'm sure it will be dealt with swiftly like theAngel plexes that RA farmed for nearly a year.
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Hyuuga Veralis
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.04.27 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Slater
Originally by: Zevon
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Perhaps them being closed was part of the BoB pleabargain to get to keep all the rest of their illgotten gains.
Beat on it all you want. That horse can't get more dead.
Its amazing how some people can close there eyes to the evidence.
I don't see you calling for RA to be mass-banned for their countless exploits.
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Flamothron
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Posted - 2007.04.28 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis
I don't see you calling for RA to be mass-banned for their countless exploits.
RA peon, i mean associates can't tell about that They can't do plex in their own region; Their beloved masters are claiming them lol ! "pleeeease pleeeease ccp close all plex sniff sniff 8_(" LOL !
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