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NickyYo
StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge
35
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Posted - 2011.12.27 00:17:00 -
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Lets sort these 0.0 carebears out! And make their local chat invisible.
Please bring the whining on :) |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2164
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Posted - 2011.12.27 00:18:00 -
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F&I spam goes in the F&I subforum. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Selinate
184
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Posted - 2011.12.27 00:35:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Lets sort these 0.0 carebears out! And make their local chat invisible.
Please bring the whining on :)
I agree! Bring the whining on! |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
621
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Posted - 2011.12.27 01:24:00 -
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why not sort these carebears out yourself?
too hard to get past the border camps? The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

NickyYo
StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge
35
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Posted - 2011.12.27 01:24:00 -
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Morganta wrote:why not sort these carebears out yourself?
too hard to get past the border camps?
No they just dock up when i enter local.. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
621
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Posted - 2011.12.27 01:26:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Morganta wrote:why not sort these carebears out yourself?
too hard to get past the border camps? No they just dock up when i enter local..
oh well... a rock solid tactic its nigh impossible to kill someone on the undock...
I guess you don't do much fishing
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

SmegB
Onyx Brotherhood STR8NGE BREW
4
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Posted - 2011.12.27 01:54:00 -
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Nickyo i remember you trying to make everyone leave the Genisis Region back when you were in highsec. That not working out for ya? |

OmegaZeda
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2011.12.27 02:05:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:No they just dock up when i enter local..
And making the stations destructible is going to do what for you? Maybe if your corp wasn't 350kills to 2000 losses you'd have the muscle to ref and claim a system. Instead you've decided to come here to huff and puff and stomp your feet saying if you can't have one then neither can anyone else?
Maybe if you weren't a failure at pvp you would get them before they dock. Now you have fun loosing more armor tanked hurricanes. I have to get back to burning Branch to the ground and taking the enemies stations away with my fellow blues. |

NickyYo
StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge
36
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Posted - 2011.12.27 02:30:00 -
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OmegaZeda wrote:NickyYo wrote:No they just dock up when i enter local.. I have to get back to burning Branch to the ground and taking the enemies stations away with my fellow blues.
Yes report back to your masters for service sir. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1382
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Posted - 2011.12.27 04:47:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Morganta wrote:why not sort these carebears out yourself?
too hard to get past the border camps? No they just dock up when i enter local..
but it's definitely not your fault, you're the best PvPer in the cluster and it's definitely not your lack of skill that prevents you from getting any kills |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
212
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Posted - 2011.12.27 04:57:00 -
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Tippia wrote:F&I spam goes in the F&I subforum.
*DING* |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
603
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Posted - 2011.12.27 07:33:00 -
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OmegaZeda wrote:NickyYo wrote:No they just dock up when i enter local.. And making the stations destructible is going to do what for you? Maybe if your corp wasn't 350kills to 2000 losses you'd have the muscle to ref and claim a system. Instead you've decided to come here to huff and puff and stomp your feet saying if you can't have one then neither can anyone else? Maybe if you weren't a failure at pvp you would get them before they dock. Now you have fun loosing more armor tanked hurricanes. I have to get back to burning Branch to the ground and taking the enemies stations away with my fellow blues.
It's moments like this that make kill boards worthwhile.
One has to wonder how being able to kill stations would be of benefit to him over simply taking them away, assuming his corp is able to. Why kill it when you can use it just as easily.
That being said, I think they should be destructible. On occasion it might make for some interesting strategic decisions. Salting the earth and poisoning the well stratagems are not use often enough in EVE.
If your neighbor is getting strong enough to pose a threat, and you can take them but don't have the manpower to control their territory in addition to your own, destroying all the stations in their space sounds like a viable way to seriously impair their abilities to leverage income from the area. If they leave as a result, the next occupants have to devote significant resources to developing the area before they can become a threat to you. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |

Covert Kitty
SRS Industries SRS.
93
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Posted - 2011.12.27 07:59:00 -
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+1 for destructible outposts
The whole station system should really be redone to be honest. As well as a POS redo, roll them both into a new, more extensible system.
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Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
325
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Posted - 2011.12.27 14:50:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:That being said, I think they should be destructible. On occasion it might make for some interesting strategic decisions. Salting the earth and poisoning the well stratagems are not used often enough in EVE.
Ask White Noise about Branch.
Then ask them why they blamed their loss of the region on CCP and not being able to blow up stations.
Lady Spank for C&P Moderator.
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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
343
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Posted - 2011.12.27 15:01:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Lets sort these 0.0 carebears out! I think you'll find the CSM is already pushing for this.
NickyYo wrote:And make their local chat invisible. What's the matter, can't compete with the z0r chains, so you decide to try to nerf goonswarm's primary weapon? |

Ntrails
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2011.12.27 15:11:00 -
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Sure. I mean I am pretty sure that would be a great griefing tool.
Of course everyone would be living out of NPC stations to minimise risk to assets which would be an interesting change :) |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
1490
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Posted - 2011.12.27 16:03:00 -
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I going to call it: there will be some kind of outpost destruction introduced in 2012.
And not before time as well. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
475
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Posted - 2011.12.27 17:09:00 -
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Destructible outposts will mean that it will be possible for the big 0.0 powerblocs to operate a schorched earth (space?) policy.
This will make it harder for smaller groups to gain a decent foothold in 0.0. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
621
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Posted - 2011.12.27 17:16:00 -
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nobody will rebuild them.
it comes down to large alliances effectively being able to shut down an entire cluster of systems and create little carebear wonderlands
it will actually make things better for carebears.
you want them out kick them out, they are there for a reason, deny them that and they will pretty much **** off even if they never have the balls to fight you.
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

seany1212
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
35
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Posted - 2011.12.27 17:41:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Destructible outposts will mean that it will be possible for the big 0.0 powerblocs to operate a schorched earth (space?) policy.
This will make it harder for smaller groups to gain a decent foothold in 0.0.
No, if anything it will make them easier, large powerblocks will have to increase concentration in there central systems in order to save there main stations from destruction, potentially receeding the size of there true space and leaving the gaps in between to be taken by smaller groups. It'll stop the whole business of station systems with 1 person in local. |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
475
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Posted - 2011.12.27 17:46:00 -
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seany1212 wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:Destructible outposts will mean that it will be possible for the big 0.0 powerblocs to operate a schorched earth (space?) policy.
This will make it harder for smaller groups to gain a decent foothold in 0.0. No, if anything it will make them easier, large powerblocks will have to increase concentration in there central systems in order to save there main stations from destruction, potentially receeding the size of there true space and leaving the gaps in between to be taken by smaller groups. It'll stop the whole business of station systems with 1 person in local.
Those smaller groups won't be allowed to have outposts.
And that means that it will be harder for them to grow to a size where they can challenge the big boys. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
358
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:07:00 -
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There would be a good reason to kill a station, as there is always a good reason to kill something in this game.
But the "destroy everything" crowd will not use that reason.
0.0 NPC space should not have stations anyway. Heck every time I go there (through wormholes because that border is indeed camped) I never use stations. Every time I pop into a system, the ratting ships and sometimes a mining ship (rare) vanishes off D-Scan and within a minute or two someone is outside the station in some T2 cruisers smacktalking me in Russian.
Why do they think the first thing I do is dock up? I spend weeks in 0.0 and never dock up. Never need to. Why is everybody so stuck on using stations as part of their ship? With proper planning and good tactics you don't need them except once in a while.
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Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
325
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:10:00 -
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Even if they make stations destructible, its still going to take forever to kill the damn thing, thats what nullsec needs you know, more structure grinds.. 
Funny how the guy suggesting this has no idea of how much outposts cost to build, how much of a pain in the ass it is to move station eggs around, and all the other logistical nightmares of outpost construction. Making them destructible doesn't mean it will be practical for anyone BUT the large sov powerblocks anyway.
Lady Spank for C&P Moderator.
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
213
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:33:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:There would be a good reason to kill a station, as there is always a good reason to kill something in this game.
But the "destroy everything" crowd will not use that reason.
0.0 NPC space should not have stations anyway. Heck every time I go there (through wormholes because that border is indeed camped) I never use stations. Every time I pop into a system, the ratting ships and sometimes a mining ship (rare) vanishes off D-Scan and within a minute or two someone is outside the station in some T2 cruisers smacktalking me in Russian.
Why do they think the first thing I do is dock up? I spend weeks in 0.0 and never dock up. Never need to. Why is everybody so stuck on using stations as part of their ship? With proper planning and good tactics you don't need them except once in a while.
How many ships do you have in your hangar in Hisec? People who live in 0.0 need to have access to a portfolio of ships just as badly as people in Hisec do. 0.0 was originally intended for long term colonization, thus Stations. Wormholes were not intended for long term colonization (that they have been colonized anyway is just evidence that CCP doesn't understand its players), thus POSes. |

SpaceSquirrels
43
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:35:00 -
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This is when you afk cloak and really **** some folks off. |

Atuk Belinen
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:43:00 -
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+1 kill everything |

JagerJake
Rapalje Eternal Evocations
0
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Posted - 2011.12.27 19:46:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Lets sort these 0.0 carebears out! And make their local chat invisible.
Please bring the whining on :)
i see the first post is the biggest whine |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
49
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Posted - 2011.12.27 20:04:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:[quote=Herzog Wolfhammer] How many ships do you have in your hangar in Hisec? People who live in 0.0 need to have access to a portfolio of ships just as badly as people in Hisec do. 0.0 was originally intended for long term colonization, thus Stations. Wormholes were not intended for long term colonization (that they have been colonized anyway is just evidence that CCP doesn't understand its players), thus POSes.
I always feel the need to address the WH issue. People I believe misread CCP all the time on the WH thing. It's not that CCP did not intend for people to colonize WH space. Its that they did not design it to cater to colonization. It is simply that they did not design WH space specifically to cater to colonization. WH space is the unknown frontier and as such should not be as easy to colonize. But that is very different from CCP not expecting peoplet to colonize. Quite the contrary I believe they did expect people would move in. But that doesn't mean they had to make it easy to do so.
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RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
214
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Posted - 2011.12.27 20:15:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:RubyPorto wrote:[quote=Herzog Wolfhammer] How many ships do you have in your hangar in Hisec? People who live in 0.0 need to have access to a portfolio of ships just as badly as people in Hisec do. 0.0 was originally intended for long term colonization, thus Stations. Wormholes were not intended for long term colonization (that they have been colonized anyway is just evidence that CCP doesn't understand its players), thus POSes. I always feel the need to address the WH issue. People I believe misread CCP all the time on the WH thing. It's not that CCP did not intend for people to colonize WH space. Its that they did not design it to cater to colonization. It is simply that they did not design WH space specifically to cater to colonization. WH space is the unknown frontier and as such should not be as easy to colonize. But that is very different from CCP not expecting peoplet to colonize. Quite the contrary I believe they did expect people would move in. But that doesn't mean they had to make it easy to do so.
That says what I wanted to say better than I did. My point is that Null was intended to be colonized more easily than WH space. Stations and fixed gates facilitate that. Destructible stations is a bad idea. |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
197
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Posted - 2011.12.27 20:20:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:OmegaZeda wrote:NickyYo wrote:No they just dock up when i enter local.. I have to get back to burning Branch to the ground and taking the enemies stations away with my fellow blues. Yes report back to your masters for service sir.
I absolutely love how the propoganda train just steamrolls over those who refuse to think for themselves. I expect someone will now return that I dont think for myself since I fight for my goon masters, but really, do you know? Do you REALLY claim to KNOW how the CFC works or indeed anythign about it other than that you hate it? And why do you hate it? Because you do not understand it, because you believe the mindless propoganda. No, you really dont know enough about us to have any understanding, carry on hating us, it just fuels our reason to kill you.
Go forth mindless haters, our cannons await you with sweet anticipation.
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
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