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Morgaine Legray
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:17:00 -
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Anyone else frustrated like me? Does gallante seem to have the best in every ship class? best ew... best industrial... best t1 cruisers... best t2 cruisers... best dread... best carrier... best mothership... best battlecruisers.....
Seems gallante trump all the other ships in almost every ship class. Discuss! no this isn't flame bait, im being serious.
Topic says it all, casts your votes and I will tally them.
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stopdropandlol
Gallente F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:20:00 -
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Yes Gallantene is so overpowered. CCP purposely made every other race **** so gallantene can be uber.
Thats why i fly them
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Morgaine Legray Anyone else frustrated like me? Does gallante seem to have the best in every ship class? best ew... best industrial... best t1 cruisers... best t2 cruisers... best dread... best carrier... best mothership... best battlecruisers.....
Seems gallante trump all the other ships in almost every ship class. Discuss! no this isn't flame bait, im being serious.
Topic says it all, casts your votes and I will tally them.
other than the t2 cruisers yes im incline to agree with you.. thats why i dont fly a race anymore.. i fly Ore! -------------------- My sig was stolen from some website.. leet!
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Kldraina
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:26:00 -
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Personally, I think the Arbitrator is better than the Vexor. The only ships that seem like they might be overpowered to me, are the Myrmidon and the Dominix. ---
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Wrayeth
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tista other than the t2 cruisers yes im incline to agree with you.. thats why i dont fly a race anymore.. i fly Ore!
Last I chcked, Ore was a Gallente conglomerate. As such, you are flying Gallente. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Angus McLean
Gallente Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:48:00 -
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None of you have a clue what your talking about.
Amarr- Best all around targets. Minmatar- Good for loot and replacement parts. Caldari- Good for missioning to buy a Gallente ship so you can PvP to kill Minmatar and Amarr ships which you use to replace the cost of the ammo you spent on killing the ships which costs about the same as 1 level 4 mission.
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth
Originally by: Tista other than the t2 cruisers yes im incline to agree with you.. thats why i dont fly a race anymore.. i fly Ore!
Last I chcked, Ore was a Gallente conglomerate. As such, you are flying Gallente.
Noooooooo my ways of neutral flight system of "i dont belong to any race" ness has been devoured! -------------------- My sig was stolen from some website.. leet!
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ashura'ka
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:58:00 -
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im not saying nerf gallante. i will say i think the devs put alot more thought into gallante then the other races it seems. why doesnt the other races have an industrial equal to the iteron mark5?. you shouldnt have to fly a certain race ship to equal the playing field when it comes to pvp. i think these issues can be fixed. however i know what the answer will be.. soon! <tm>
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Caldari Online
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Morgaine Legray Anyone else frustrated like me? Does gallante seem to have the best in every ship class? best ew... best industrial... best t1 cruisers... best t2 cruisers... best dread... best carrier... best mothership... best battlecruisers.....
Seems gallante trump all the other ships in almost every ship class. Discuss! no this isn't flame bait, im being serious.
Topic says it all, casts your votes and I will tally them.
Seems gallante trump all the other ships in almost every ship class. Discuss!
i have to say this is false. i think galaante pilots are the most skilled in the game though, due to the extream short range of blasters we have become uber players faster than the other races. for example a long time caldari pilot has little idea of tracking an trasnverse so doesnt move his ship to lower those but a galante pilot does
as for best ships
best ew... Caldari best industrial... T1 is iteron 5 but freighter is caldari! best t1 cruisers... close with rupture, i would say rupture wins out here best t2 cruisers... ishtar is nice, deimos is ****. i wouldnt say best hac though best dread... negative, persoanlly id put caldari dread here best carrier... agree best mothership... dont know eough, but i guess so best battlecruisers..... not really, i think the BC are one of the best balanced ships.
you forgot best BS.
best small gang to medium gang and good fleet ship is the tier 3 mini BS with AC and 3x falloff rigs best solo BS is probably close between domi and typhoon, the mini one is high, so is megathron and tempest
overall galante have the best t1 industrial. best carrier and mothership.
thorax is probably second best t1 cruiser, ishtar is high up but not worth flying since the domi does everything better.
that is about it really
oh, and nerf nosf
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.04.20 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Caldari Online overall galante have the best t1 industrial. best carrier and mothership.
5% resists per level is too sexy to pass up on a capital ship imho. Personally I'd say Archon ~ Chimera > Thanatos >>> Nidhoggur
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Caldari Online
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Posted - 2007.04.20 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Azerrad InExile
Originally by: Caldari Online overall galante have the best t1 industrial. best carrier and mothership.
5% resists per level is too sexy to pass up on a capital ship imho. Personally I'd say Archon ~ Chimera > Thanatos >>> Nidhoggur
ill take your word over my guess, persoanlly i dont fly capitals but the whining i hear says galante carriers are uber over the rest
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WredStorm
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.04.20 03:16:00 -
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Seems to me that around last August or so, everyone was saying how the devs must all be Caldari, because they had the best everything. Like all games, things change and for a while there are certain setups/ships/modules/what-have-you that work better than others. Then the nerf-bat swingeth (or new things are added, which is the preferred cause of change) and suddenly something else is "best". If I could buy stock in Amarr right now, trust me, I'd do so... I think they're gonna be on the upswing soon now.
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SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.20 03:42:00 -
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I think the thing is gallente ships excel in those areas where combat is actually fun and or action heavy.
Wasting NPCs in my caldari missile boat isn't actually very exciting. ___
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.20 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Morgaine Legray Anyone else frustrated like me? Does gallante seem to have the best in every ship class? best ew...Kinda best industrial...Yes best t1 cruisers...No best t2 cruisers...No best dread...No best carrier...Kinda best mothership...Kinda best battlecruisers.....Kinda
Seems gallante trump all the other ships in almost every ship class. Discuss! no this isn't flame bait, im being serious.
Topic says it all, casts your votes and I will tally them.
The kindas stand for the ones where its a tradeoff...gellente have their niche and best in certain places but arent uber in all...
So i say no. __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space. |
Koloch
Amarr Warriors Lost
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Posted - 2007.04.20 05:07:00 -
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Once ccp get off their $#* and nerf nos the playing field will be a lot more even. Most of the overpowered Gallente ships are the nos boats -ie. EOS, Domi, Myrm. Everything outside of these ships is pretty well balanced.
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Dracu1a
Gallente Warrior Nation United
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Posted - 2007.04.20 05:32:00 -
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Correct me if im wrong, but ive read in countless discussions about Dread's that the gallente dread comes in dead last when it comes to doing what they are meant to do (destroy pos). Yeah its drones are nice. But its capital blasters cant really hit a large pos due to the diameter of the shields? guess their range is just horrible. or something of that nature.
best ew i think is caldari imo
best t1 cruiser is hard to say. arbitrator is nice, vexor/thorax is nice, and rupture is nice. seems like a pretty even playing field to me.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.04.20 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dracu1a Correct me if im wrong, but ive read in countless discussions about Dread's that the gallente dread comes in dead last when it comes to doing what they are meant to do (destroy pos). Yeah its drones are nice. But its capital blasters cant really hit a large pos due to the diameter of the shields? guess their range is just horrible. or something of that nature.
Read up, they can fit railguns too for very good range.
Gives them less DPS, but don't underestimate the moros' drones. The only ones who do that have never faced them. Mine ripped a T2 megathron in 30 seconds..poor sod barely had time to align, and his buddy in the nighthawk was glad that my tackler only had 1 point...
Moros >> other dreads, for general use.
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
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mematar
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.20 06:02:00 -
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Gellente, Gallante, Gallentaeeaeaeae!
Ye right!
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Lusian
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Posted - 2007.04.20 06:19:00 -
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Ok guys, you want things to be nerfed but on a nouther token, i cant shield tank nor can i use missiles like i wnt to with a caldari ship. I think Caldari are over opowered with they're missile damage and i have a - 15 to 35% capaciter for sertin ammo I use ?
This is rediculous. All races have they're strengths and weaknesses, i played homeworld 2 and other and they are never fully even and i would never want them to be so stop complaining.
This thread deserves abump on my opinion. Is there a comalaint forum around here ?
less even races makes for more and diverse game play, or the game would be plaine boring.
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Karma Coma
The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2007.04.20 06:34:00 -
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I normally try to be civil but, your just an idiot. I figure your either getting beat by a Gal chars constantly because of your lack of skill - irl and in game. Gal are good solo, however, even then they have to watch out for mini ships (stabber > thorax, megathron > tempest, the drone boats are the only exception - the myr doesn't fall into this category cause it cant carry replacement drones and mediums do substantially less damage). Amarr are for gank, caldari are the best ew/npc... there are many takes on this but the point is your posting either cause you feel the need to be involved or because you lack skill. I get beat by every races ships and esspecially by tempests (i fly megas) should i start posting to nerf mini falloff, amarr range, caldari ratting abilities? And i post with my main
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Lt Angus
Caldari OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.20 07:25:00 -
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Id say they are the best race but far from over powered, of course this depends on what you do in eve Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers |
slothe
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.20 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Koloch Once ccp get off their $#* and nerf nos the playing field will be a lot more even. Most of the overpowered Gallente ships are the nos boats -ie. EOS, Domi, Myrm. Everything outside of these ships is pretty well balanced.
dont agree, blaster setup > nos setup for domi.
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Liang Nuren
Red 42 CORE.
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Posted - 2007.04.20 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Morgaine Legray Anyone else frustrated like me? Does gallante seem to have the best in every ship class? best ew... best industrial... best t1 cruisers... best t2 cruisers... best dread... best carrier... best mothership... best battlecruisers.....
Seems gallante trump all the other ships in almost every ship class. Discuss! no this isn't flame bait, im being serious.
Topic says it all, casts your votes and I will tally them.
best in every ship class? best ew...Blackbird, far far far and away. OH, AND THE FREAKING SCORPION! best industrial...Itty, but Amarr T2 indy is sexy. best t1 cruisers...Rupture, Arby (extra mid!), Vexor, Caracal, in order. best t2 cruisers...Not a chance, and its not even close. Curse, Pilgrim, Huginn, just to name a few best dread...Um, dunno. best carrier...Um, dunno, but I know Caldari carriers are pretty leetsauce best mothership...Not sure best battlecruisers.....Not really - I think they're pretty well balanced. best battleship......No, probably best "solopwnmobile" though, in the form of Domi. Once in a gang of any size at all, the Domi (and all drone ships) loses its bite. Also, for "most purposes", the Raven is wtfpwn.
All races have a niche: Gallente: small gang (including solo) combat (blasters, drones) (bad > sm gang) Caldari: Med - Large gang combat, mission whoring. Amarr: Gang combat uberness, they could probably use a buff (tiny). <--- THIS IS WHERE I WOULD START INVESTING SKILLPOINTS TO RIDE THE NEXT WTFPWN WAVE --- Minmatar: small - med gang (imho).
Liang
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.04.20 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Laboratus on 20/04/2007 07:43:50 Lets see.
best ew... Celesteses and recons are nice, but they won't save your friends since they don't break locks, so this one goes to Caldari.
best industrial... A bit better, but then again the battlebadger is a lot better than Iteron V for bating pirates, and it takes less skill to use...
best t1 cruisers... Thorax is nice for solopirating, but gets it's ass kicked from mallers or ruptures and is pretty much on even ground on caracals
best t2 cruisers... Deimos is nice, but the Ishtar is now obsoleted by the myrmiddon. Cerb or vaga is best in this class depending on intended use. Or the amarrian hacs for scary tank+damage. Not to forget the curse, that is one of the strongest solo fighting ships out there.
best dread... I do belive Rev is the most used due to superior cap and tanking abilities. But sure competes for it. best carrier... for dealing damage. Since you can no longer sit at pos and delegate fighters, it lost it's role. The front line carriers (with resistance boni) are a lot more usable atm...
best mothership... Again, the same thing. Best looking one for sure...
best battlecruisers... When looking at my corps killboard stats, the drake comes out top on cost effectiveness on kills/losses so I gotta say it counts for something. Not to mention it outtanks the cerbie that in it self can solo 8/10s no swet and it gets a silly passive tank and resistances... Hurricane comes second in this class and the myrmi is a distant third. And for the battlecruiser role (gang assist mods) none can really beat the amarrian armour tanking bonuses. The perfect thing for silly tanks...
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Shayla Sh'inlux
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.04.20 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Morgaine Legray Anyone else frustrated like me? Does gallante seem to have the best in every ship class?
Let's start adding the missing shipclasses first then since you so conveniently forgot them:
* Gallentean tech 1 frigs are a complete joke. Crown goes to Minmatar here since they got the Rifter. Merlin and Kestrel put Caldari an inch behind them as second. * The Helios is the second worst CovOps (as in Cheetah is faster which is a very important arrtibute for Coverts and Buzzard has best fitting which means you can use them to full potential without maxing CovOps skill) * The Ranis is good, but Crow is better. Ares is nothing more than a tech II shuttle. * Astarte only has good paperDPS but lacks speed; Eos has fitting issues that are not even funny. I definately prefer my alt's Sleipnir and Claymore over them and the Nighthawk's prices and Vulture's godly tanks speak for themselves. * Assault frigs... well, the Ishkur is probably the best AF. Harpy and Wolf are very good too tho. Generally speaking AF's are rather useless unfortunately. * Recons. Lachesis makes me laugh (or actually cry). Arazu is very nice but laughable killing power; it's a cloaking tackler and a very very dangerous one at that. It just needs a friend. Now take a Curse and you're looking at awesomeness. Huginn has a very defined role as does Falcon. Just like the Arazu they need friends to function. Amarr is definately the one way to go in this class.
best ew. Hardly. Damps are nice, but they blow in the context of the closerange philosophy of Gallentean ships. They're mostly a means to protect drones. Damps being good on OTHER races ships doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Gallente. So, no.
best industrial. In pure hauling size, yes. Minmatar indies are still way better from a training time vs cargo size perspective. Nothing beats a Sigil for speed hauling (looting) and a Badger II has a lot of survival potential. Haulers are fairly balaced, actually. I'd say any Gallentean hauler that is NOT a Mark V is completely outclassed by the other races at equal skills.
best t1 cruisers. Rax is good, Vexor's great. But so are Arbitrator, Rup, Stabber and Caracal. Tech I cruisers is pretty much the only shipclass where there is actual balance and where all ships have their use.
best t2 cruisers. Ishtar is cool, but not THAT good any longer. Deimos is a predictable sub-par joke of a HAC. Given the general suckiness of HAC's in PvP now that we have tier2 BC's and CC's all over the place I'm inclined to say that the Vagabond and Cerberus are the best ones.
best dread. For killing smaller ships? Sure. For what they're supposed to do they are the absolute worst.
best carrier. I'm inclined to agree. Carriers are usable in small enough combats for the extra fighter damage to matter enough to compensate for the lower resists compared to an Archon and Chimera.
best mothership. Absolutely not. Sexiest looks, absolutely. The Aeon's resist are godly and it's the best MS for this reason alone. The only reason to consider placing a Nyx above than a Wyvern is the fact that a Wyvern needs to shieldtank which limits options AND is a dangerous thing to do in lag situations cap-wise; which is pretty much everywhere if you're using a MS. I'd still say Wyvern > Nyx but it can be argued both ways.
[b]best battlecruisers[b]. All races' BC's are about equal IMO. In noobland the Drake is actually best, while in uber-pro land I'd say Hurricane is quite the bomb. Sure, Cyclone and Ferox are both rather useless. At least the Ferox has this amazing passive shieldtank.
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Seems gallante trump all the other ships in almost every ship class.
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir
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Posted - 2007.04.20 08:05:00 -
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Theres only one module that would make this statement true, and that is only in combination with drones.
The module is our game unfriendly NOS, the bane of everyone but those who use it all the bloody time and don't want to have it nerfed.
Drone DPS + Nos = I Win, Realy simple!
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Ashen Dreams
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Posted - 2007.04.20 08:09:00 -
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Anyone ever think or notice. .ya gals all great for small gang.. but get much bigger.. and fleet commands dont like the drone ships cause it creates even more lag...
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Darqion Zenix
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Posted - 2007.04.20 09:27:00 -
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no love for the minmatar dread huh :P is it so bad ? hehe
i fly some gallante but only because i like the vexor. i think the field should be evened by having a look at NOS first, and see where that leaves the drone boats
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WYLEE C0Y0TE
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.20 09:44:00 -
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Edited by: WYLEE C0Y0TE on 20/04/2007 09:43:12
Interesting...
best ew...Caldari best industrial...Even best t1 cruisers...Minmatar best t2 cruisers...Minmatar best dread...dunno best carrier...dunno best mothership...dunno best battlecruisers...Minmatar best command ships...Minmatar best battleships...Minmatar best interceptors...Minmatar/Amarr best frigates...Minmatar best destroyer...Minmatar best assault frigates...even best interdictor...Minmatar
Lets try some new catagories shall we?
Best in PvE...Caldari Best in PvP...Minmatar Best in groups...Minmatar/Amarr Best in fleets...Minmatar/Amarr Best against NOS...Minmatar Best support...Caldari Best weapons...Minmatar
Race that's hardest to train...Minmatar
Seems Minmatar trump all the other ships in almost every class. Discuss!
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif If it's personal, it's because of you.
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Caffeine Junkie
Caldari The Ministry Of Funny Walks
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Posted - 2007.04.20 09:57:00 -
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Absolutely!
Boost Caldari!
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...and its "Armour" not "Armor" ... m'kay!
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