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        |  Jotan Veer
 HUN Corp.
 HUN Reloaded
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 00:52:00 -
          [91] 
 Have fun guys
  
 
 
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        |  Harkley
 Templars of Space
 CORE.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 01:24:00 -
          [92] 
 Have fun. It'd have been nice to let us know you weren't gunna keep all standings the same, but what's done is done. Good luck, and we'll be seeing you around Pure Blind ;-)
 
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        |  Troubadour
 Slacker Industries
 Exuro Mortis
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 04:20:00 -
          [93] 
 2 days ago evoke DDs me in ec- with the erberus, today I get DDed by the levithan in L-C. I'm thinking that I just need an avatar and ragnarok to hit me the next 2 days and i'll be some kind of famous.
 
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        |  empiresteve
 Minmatar
 Plundering Penguins
 3asy Company
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 05:05:00 -
          [94] 
 
  Quote: Originally by: Darknesss
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 These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.
 
 To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.
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 Ditto.. that sums it up for all the peeps that've been whining about being shot.
 
 
 might be beating a dead horse here, but Deklein residents were told to set EVOKE to blue. then when attacked by EVOKE, we were told to convo them and tell them we were blue. then, finally, we were told to set them neutral or red. so i think people whining about losing their ships might have a reason to be a little upset...
 
 not trying to point any fingers, standings mistakes happen. i just think that some people have a right to be a little angry about losing their ships, thats all.
 these thoughts dont represent my alliance or corp or anything else, just imho
 
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        |  Deva Blackfire
 DAB
 RAZOR Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 05:09:00 -
          [95] 
 Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 23/04/2007 05:06:32
 
  Originally by: Goberth Ludwig 
 This are the SAME pos mechanics than when they kicked F-E and then TCF out over the last year - no problems there tho. Yes theres titans now but MC/YW dont have any atm while they have two - so if anything that is playing in their favour.
 
 There is not a problem with "game mechanics" here the problem is "game mechanics when fighting people that are challenge" and how much it sucks to have to actually work hard for your victories. The solution? Break off and go camp EC- !
 
 
 
 Um - now go back one year on forums and read posts. Goons in XZH, TCF in tribute. All was the same: BORING POS warfare. Yes we did have a blast with goons but it wasnt at POS. All good battles took place at the gate, POS were boring lagfest. I can say same for TCF (tho i fought only 1/3 of total time - had busy RL + couldnt be arsed to fight ANOTHER pos war) - most good fun was away from towers (tho they engaged much less than goons).
 
 And i perfectly understand what D2 leaving corps are talking about. Even if you do not want to play pos spammage game forces you to do so. And soon we will hit known problem: how can smaller entity claim space when they cant outblob enemy with capital ships?
 
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        |  ec p8r
 EC-p8r's liberation frontier
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 05:43:00 -
          [96] 
 I hope you keep it clean. Dusk and Dawn fired the janitor ISS hired to keep it clean, and it smelt like rotten fish for a long time.
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        |  pershphanie
 T1TS Holding Corp
 Terror In The System
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 05:50:00 -
          [97] 
 
  Originally by: Goberth Ludwig 
  Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 22/04/2007 21:30:10
 
  Originally by: Goberth Ludwig 
  Originally by: Darknesss These guys arent running from a war, theyre running from game mechanics. The war with the south is a boring pos spamming titan blobbing war which means very little fun. So these corps probably were faced with two decisions, stay with d2 have their members go inactive or leave due to being bored and or ****ed off, or leave and say form a new alliance like they have done.
 
 To alot of people this will look like a backstab but like us theyre just looking for fun, to keep all the northern residents blue would make them leaving d2 a little pointless. Theyve given warning, they told d2 they were leaving... I dont really see the problem.
 
 
 This are the SAME pos mechanics than when they kicked F-E and then TCF out over the last year - no problems there tho. Yes theres titans now but MC/YW dont have any atm while they have two - so if anything that is playing in their favour.
 
 
 
 
 Actually that's completly false. They put up just enough POS to get our attention. I think it was 3 of them. That's hardly POS spamming. Then we had a series of great fleet fights. They didn't seem that concerned with our POS's. They seemed much more interested in fighting. They did not kick F-E alliance out of anywhere either. We ended up killing all the POS's. Also it was G not D2.
 
 
 You missed my point. I am sure MC/YW/BOB arent after just the poses either and will engage in a fight just as much.
 
 My point is there was no sudden change in the game mechanics of POSes to blame the split entirely on that.
 
 @ Rami: I know what you mean, still due to the timing of this decision its hard to believe the war you were facing had nothing to do with it m8
 
 - Gob
 
 
 
 Well I don't think I did miss your point. You seemed to imply that at one time D2 liked the use of POS spamming at one point because it worked in their favor and only don't like it now because it's not working for them. I was just disagreeing with that. D2 have never really been about that at all. They've always prefered to fight with their ships in my experience. If they feel game mechanics no longer allow them to do that then that's their choice.
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        |  Goberth Ludwig
 eXceed Inc.
 INVICTUS.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 07:14:00 -
          [98] 
 No persh.
 
 I imply nobody in this game likes POS warfare, just as nobody likes to mine for their ships but people will still do it.
 
 Now what has changed with the poses over last year? You say that 1 year ago it was ok because there were few poses and alot of fights with f-e, tcf, goons. Does it mean MC and YW are not fighting but only spamming poses and setting up their alarm cloaks? So what has changed?
 
 - Gob
 
 
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        |  Shirei
 Minmatar
 Cutting Edge Incorporated
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 07:53:00 -
          [99] 
 Edited by: Shirei on 23/04/2007 07:50:38
 
  Originally by: Goberth Ludwig So what has changed?
 
 
 The proliferation of capital and super-capital ships in such large numbers that flying anything else has become nigh pointless in sov contests.
 
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        |  Turkantho
 Asgard Schiffswerften
 Ev0ke
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 15:45:00 -
          [100] 
 Edited by: Turkantho on 23/04/2007 15:44:56
 
  Originally by: empiresteve 
 might be beating a dead horse here, but Deklein residents were told to set EVOKE to blue. then when attacked by EVOKE, we were told to convo them and tell them we were blue. then, finally, we were told to set them neutral or red. so i think people whining about losing their ships might have a reason to be a little upset...
 
 not trying to point any fingers, standings mistakes happen. i just think that some people have a right to be a little angry about losing their ships, thats all.
 these thoughts dont represent my alliance or corp or anything else, just imho
 
 
 mistake in communication between me and IRON
 
 edit:
 a personal note
 one thing I suspected a long time got confirmed this weekend, 0.0 is full of whining carebears who cry mommy when they got shot, guys if you go to 0.0 you agreed to be confronted with pvp
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 we bring the fun in funeral
 
 I love Emily
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        |  FireFox McProwler
 Caldari
 Dirty Deeds Corp.
 Axiom Empire
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 17:19:00 -
          [101] 
 Did you check what Mc had to say about the changeover of the station? They might have other plans for it.
 
 
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        |  Dalanoria
 Team Americas
 Anarchy Empire
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 17:26:00 -
          [102] 
 Kill them all, show no favortism. You have a duty to shoot all your old friends as that is the way of complete anarchy.
  
 You might go down as the biggest anarchist of all time if you destroy your own titan...
  
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        |  Dalanoria
 Team Americas
 Anarchy Empire
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 17:29:00 -
          [103] 
 
  Originally by: FireFox McProwler Did you check what Mc had to say about the changeover of the station? They might have other plans for it.
 
 
 You should have MC members send u a scratch and sniff of their azz sweat.That way you can have that fresh scent of your nose up their butts all day without having to make a post about your love for them...
  
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        |  Trivas
 ClanKillers
 Dusk and Dawn
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 18:53:00 -
          [104] 
 
  Originally by: Dalanoria 
  Originally by: FireFox McProwler Did you check what Mc had to say about the changeover of the station? They might have other plans for it.
 
 
 You should have MC members send u a scratch and sniff of their azz sweat.That way you can have that fresh scent of your nose up their butts all day without having to make a post about your love for them...
  
 
 Shame this might get snipped out
  
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        |  nico wurz250
 The X-Trading Company
 Dusk and Dawn
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 18:54:00 -
          [105] 
 Edited by: nico wurz250 on 23/04/2007 18:55:49
 
 DDs are for fishing!
 
 
    
 And POSs are for trapping.
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 Support your local D2 member!
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        |  Imran
 Jericho Fraction
 The Star Fraction
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 19:45:00 -
          [106] 
 turk turk wahoooo! <3
 
 EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente?
 Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
 Ch33z0rs: Pirating is such a harsh term. I
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        |  JaeWoo
 Agony Unleashed
 Agony Empire
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 20:34:00 -
          [107] 
 
  Originally by: Dalanoria 
  Originally by: FireFox McProwler Did you check what Mc had to say about the changeover of the station? They might have other plans for it.
 
 
 You should have MC members send u a scratch and sniff of their azz sweat.That way you can have that fresh scent of your nose up their butts all day without having to make a post about your love for them...
  
 
 I have no opinion on the topic, but this post made me smile
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        |  SigmaPi
 Cutting Edge Incorporated
 RAZOR Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 21:54:00 -
          [108] 
 I wish you the very best of luck mates.
 
 o7
 
 /Siggy
 
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        |  Tenerhaddi
 Dark Skyes
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 21:58:00 -
          [109] 
 too bad that EC- going to be hostile! i love to trade but too risky!
 
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        |  Marko Debreault
 0utbreak
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 22:02:00 -
          [110] 
 
 We killed one of our alt's freighters a little while ago. Can we get an award for the worst carebears of all time? Originally by: Dalanoria Kill them all, show no favortism. You have a duty to shoot all your old friends as that is the way of complete anarchy.
  
 You might go down as the biggest anarchist of all time if you destroy your own titan...
  
 
 
 
 
 
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        |  TroNaaR
 Di-Tron Heavy Industries
 Freelancer Alliance
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.23 22:10:00 -
          [111] 
 Best of luck to you!
 To EC-!
 /me lifts mug of quafe
 May she never be silent!
 
 
 Wherever you go...
 There you are...
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        |  RabbidFerret
 Grail Seekers
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.24 00:22:00 -
          [112] 
 
  Originally by: Daxit 
  Originally by: Verite Rendition Edited by: Verite Rendition on 22/04/2007 00:53:52
 You guys have a lot of nerve.
 
 First you leave D2 and shoot at us without warning
 Then you claim it was a standings error and will be fixed
 Now you're trying to gank all the residents of the North 24 hours later
 
 We've been friends with you guys for over 2 years now and while AUS/CORE isn't a powerhouse we've never hesitated to help G or D2 out. And you thank us for this by turning your backs without warning?
 
 With friends like you, who needs BoB?
 I hope you get everything you deserve
 <Notice: I am not a diplomat, I'm a megalomaniac, a small but important difference>
 
 
 Why is it always someone from AUS that cries like a girl?
 
 
 I had to quote this. <3 Verite
 
 
 
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        |  Moonlight Express
 Amarr
 Moonlight Express Inc.
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.24 00:35:00 -
          [113] 
 When the going gets tough, the tough get going. No more needs to be said. Actions speak louder then words.
 
 
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        |  Flinx Evenstar
 Minmatar
 Momentum.
 Dusk and Dawn
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.24 00:51:00 -
          [114] 
 Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 24/04/2007 00:49:26
 
  Originally by: Moonlight Express When the going gets tough,
 
 
 One man alt corps spew their rubbish...no more needs to be said...or wait, wasn't there a sticky thread about it....seems to be working
  
 I have flown with many of those guys and had some great fights (and ganks
  ), Gyro was my FC countless times. The next time I see him in space, he may well blow my ship up   If I can deal with that..then surely you alt monkeys can
  
 
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        |  Biosman
 ClanKillers
 Dusk and Dawn
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.24 03:49:00 -
          [115] 
 
  Originally by: Dalanoria 
  Originally by: FireFox McProwler Did you check what Mc had to say about the changeover of the station? They might have other plans for it.
 
 
 You should have MC members send u a scratch and sniff of their azz sweat.That way you can have that fresh scent of your nose up their butts all day without having to make a post about your love for them...
  
 Golden
  
 
 
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        |  Dielon
 ClanKillers
 Dusk and Dawn
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.24 06:11:00 -
          [116] 
 Wait, are you going to shoot d2 or no? i read the entire thread an no clarification. and no i have not logged on eve today. so are you just going to inhabit EC- and shoot stuff or going to come actively hunting or worse.... join the bobbits
  ? i demand a mission statement! 
 ps: if you join bob i will buy an acount that can use hacs and come looking for 40 cent.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Solo gatecamping: PVP Unb÷ring
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        |  FireFox McProwler
 Caldari
 Dirty Deeds Corp.
 Axiom Empire
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.24 08:57:00 -
          [117] 
 
  Originally by: Biosman 
  Originally by: Dalanoria 
  Originally by: FireFox McProwler Did you check what Mc had to say about the changeover of the station? They might have other plans for it.
 
 
 You should have MC members send u a scratch and sniff of their azz sweat.That way you can have that fresh scent of your nose up their butts all day without having to make a post about your love for them...
  
 Golden
  
 
 Put down the flame thrower
  
 
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        |  Amy Smart
 Caldari
 moon7empler
 Ev0ke
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.24 09:30:00 -
          [118] 
 
  Originally by: Dielon Wait, are you going to shoot d2 or no? i read the entire thread an no clarification. and no i have not logged on eve today. so are you just going to inhabit EC- and shoot stuff or going to come actively hunting or worse.... join the bobbits
  ? i demand a mission statement! 
 
 
 
 no, no, never!
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 - moon7empler the unexpected -
 
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        |  LiveBait
 Minmatar
 Bladerunners
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.24 11:03:00 -
          [119] 
 Well I am sightly miffed with regard to you guys being blue for as long as i have played then turning on me in EC without any warning. We still had you guys blue. You guys shot me on the 20/4/07 but did not post on e-o until 21/04/07 would of been nice to have had a warning that you we going to shoot.
 
 
 
 
 Never argue with an idoit, they will drag you down to thier level and beat you with experience.
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        |  Bloedkopp
 Minmatar
 Simian Cell Systems
 
 
       | Posted - 2007.04.24 11:07:00 -
          [120] 
 
  Originally by: LiveBait Well I am sightly miffed with regard to you guys being blue for as long as i have played then turning on me in EC without any warning. We still had you guys blue. You guys shot me on the 20/4/07 but did not post on e-o until 21/04/07 would of been nice to have had a warning that you we going to shoot.
 
 
 
 
 
 They could not different, they northeners and did that in the past a few times
  
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