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Grape Juice
Clandestine Vector
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Posted - 2007.04.23 03:45:00 -
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I've always been under the impression that the bigger the rat you kill, the faster your sec status goes up. So, I've been out in this lonely system for I don't know how long, blowing up Serpentis left and right and it just doesn't seem like it's working all that well.
So, just out of curiosity, I check the Security Status tab in my Character Sheet, and lo and behold, I'm not getting credit for a vast majority of my NPC kills!
Is it supposed to be like this? You get smacked for every pod you blow up, but they forget to credit you every time when you kill NPC's?
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Hellown
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.04.23 04:17:00 -
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You only get 1 positive sec movement per system every 15 minutes or so. I hear if you kill a rat in one system, then jump to the next, kill another ect. it goes up a whole bunch faster.
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Leikeze Mrotserif
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.23 04:20:00 -
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Do the crime do the time
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.23 06:04:00 -
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I agree. Personally, I think that either the sec status loss should be reduced, or gain should be increased.
It should be possible to rat your way up to -1.9 from -10 in less than 6 months without going to 0,0.
-K
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Joseph Boscorelli
Caldari
Collateral Damage Unlimited
Insomnia.
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Posted - 2007.04.23 06:22:00 -
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Does the skill Fast Talk help with this?
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Tekka
Caldari
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2007.04.23 06:34:00 -
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They should put complexes back to how they were regarding sec status. A few 6/10 solo runs and your back to being a good citizen.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.23 06:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Joseph Boscorelli
Does the skill Fast Talk help with this?
I trained this skill and noticed no improvement :/
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Xenios Alfar
Minmatar
Blazing Angels
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.23 07:58:00 -
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To be honest... You kill one BS rat and it gives you often 0.16% - 0.21% in the most common regions of 0.0, Atleast where i am based in Syndicate.
For one podill you get -12.5% Which to be honest i think is a bit much. It should be balanced, you should go up in security status by ratting at the relative same speed you do for killing otherwise its heavily weighted on negative security status.
What i do is i kill one battleship rat, and jump to the next system and repeat, raises sec a LOT faster.
BUT i have noticed that usually after downtime security status does not update despite it being more than 45min before your last bs kill and even then you dont get it.
For about a week now i have had to petition every time after downtime to get them to try and sort it out - it's a bug that needs fixing.
Half the time they try to blow you off with the whole security status capping page but that doesnt apply to negative sec so you have to force them to listen to you, even if it means being rude.
Get them to check your security status gains against your bounties and the times in bewteen you killing them.
Demand they credit you with the security status that you have not recieved when you should.
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Gix Firebrand
Caldari
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.23 08:28:00 -
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1. You fail for not forum searching.
2. You fail at griping about a somewhat balanced system that prevents total anarchy.
Yay.
Constructive? Um.. just bounce back and forth between systems nailing a BS.
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Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.23 09:05:00 -
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It isn't hard, you just gotta know how to do it  The quickest I've got my security status up before from -10 to -1.9 was 3 days. :) And no... I don't mean 3 x 24 hours. 
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Dionisius
Gallente
Ordem dos Templarios
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.04.23 10:32:00 -
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Took me one month and some social skill training to get from -5.0 to 0.9.
And it could have been 2 weeks if i remembered to move my ass to some 0.0 system and shoot rats there non-stop until i had the Sec Status i wanted.
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What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif
Do the crime do the time
the "time" whas alot shorter for us tough
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Lady Ganker
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Posted - 2007.04.23 11:33:00 -
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If your not getting anything, then something is wrong and would seriously petition it. Ask for a senior GM to fix it, he'll know whats wrong.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.23 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: G*****Juice
So, just out of curiosity, I check the Security Status tab in my Character Sheet, and lo and behold, I'm not getting credit for a vast majority of my NPC kills!
you only get a sec boost for 1 npc that you kill every 10 seconds per system. meaning if you kill an npc then another one 9 minutes later, the second one will gain you nothing in terms of sec. what you have to do is either....
kill 1 rat, take another to structure, wait for the 10 minutes to pass until u see ur sec boost on the character screen and then finish off the 2nd rat, continue like this forever.
or you can kill 1 rat in a system, go to the next system and kill another, then come back to the first system and if it's been more than 10 minutes from when you killed the first one in that system then pop another, then skip back to the second system again etc etc.
DE
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Mr Linderman
Selective Extinction
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Posted - 2007.04.23 12:02:00 -
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Or you could get an empire alt and stay -10 
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Zafriel
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.04.23 12:06:00 -
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took me 22 hours which i did on a weekend of solid gaming going from -10 to -1.8 in the far reaches of syndicate.
I did that by killing one bs, traveling to another system, killing another then onto another in a loop of systems.
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Speed Devil
Caldari
Deviance Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.23 12:26:00 -
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sec increase is a bit bugged atm, altho i think its another pirate stealthnerf, for against the suiciders me thinks 
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
Glauxian Brothers
Ground Zeero
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:13:00 -
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Going up isn't so hard. Going down is just so easy.
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Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:26:00 -
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There are no bugs in getting your security up, it's just a pain and takes a long time if you don't know the tricks. I know one for same system gaining but I aint spilling.
But yes, you do only get one security gain every 10 minutes, the secuirty gain you get is that of the biggest rat you killed. Whether you kill one battleship in 10 minutes or 100, you will still only get one security gain. The only thing that will differ is how much your wallet gets buffed.  I went from -10 to -1.9 and made just over 100m.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Grant Smith
There are no bugs in getting your security up, it's just a pain and takes a long time if you don't know the tricks. I know one for same system gaining but I aint spilling.
there is no way of getting more than 1 sec boost every 10 minutes in the same system. if you mean logging off and on that doesn't work anymore.
DE
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Revy Daidros
Gallente
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:16:00 -
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Mine has gone up quite a bit from running missions... Is this 'once every ten minutes increase' the same when running lvl 4 missions?
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:43:00 -
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Go to jail.
Go directly to jail.
Do not pass Go.
Do not collect $200.
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firewalker220
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Posted - 2007.04.23 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Grant Smith
There are no bugs in getting your security up, it's just a pain and takes a long time if you don't know the tricks. I know one for same system gaining but I aint spilling.
there is no way of getting more than 1 sec boost every 10 minutes in the same system. if you mean logging off and on that doesn't work anymore.
DE
can you leave and board your ship to force a session change?
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.23 17:40:00 -
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^ doesn't affect sec boosting
DE
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 17:47:00 -
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There is a bug. CCP won't publicly state anything about it. People have been talking about it for quite some time on the other boards. It's only in certain systems (mostly goonspace.../tinfoil off).
Fast Talk does help boost your sec boosts, but not if you're not getting any boosts at all.
If you're not getting any security boosts at all, petition it or move to different systems and test.
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Nyabinghi
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.04.23 19:43:00 -
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Still I find the scenario of "punishing" the criminal by making him rat for isk rewards and loot rather ridiculous. That's even better than Club Fed. I mean...What the hell killin NPC rats got anything to do with player on player crime? Seems like the only person who's gettin the shaft here is the victim of the pirate.
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Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.23 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Grant Smith
There are no bugs in getting your security up, it's just a pain and takes a long time if you don't know the tricks. I know one for same system gaining but I aint spilling.
there is no way of getting more than 1 sec boost every 10 minutes in the same system. if you mean logging off and on that doesn't work anymore.
DE
Yes there is, and no it's not that.
As i said, not spilling. 
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.23 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Xenios Alfar
For one podill you get -12.5% Which to be honest i think is a bit much.
Then do not do podkills in low sec - it's not really that hard. Podkills give 5 times the sec status loss compared to normal shipkills (-2% for a shipkill & -0.5% for the initial agression).
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scallen
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Posted - 2007.04.23 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: scallen on 23/04/2007 22:17:04
Syndicate is well and truely knackerd when it comes to sec increase
I have ratted for 6hrs straight and only received 1 sec gain on occasions this past month
I petitiond got told it was a bug so had to file a bug report.
2 weeks ago that was and still waiting for a reply.
C'mon gm's own up and give us our sec status
YARRRRRRRRRRR
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Gamesguy
Amarr
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.23 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nyabinghi
Still I find the scenario of "punishing" the criminal by making him rat for isk rewards and loot rather ridiculous. That's even better than Club Fed. I mean...What the hell killin NPC rats got anything to do with player on player crime? Seems like the only person who's gettin the shaft here is the victim of the pirate.
Believe me, for more pvpers ratting for sec is like watching grass grow...
Its cruel, cruel, psychological torture.
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