Perhaps if you actually read my post (assuming you are even capable of reading), you would have seen that I already said I have done PVP.

I have been on low-sec roams, null-sec fleet fights, null-sec roams, dabbled in wormholes, etc. I have tried nearly every aspect of EVE, and have discovered that nearly every null-sec corp requires that you be on X number of killmails per month or get kicked out.

BTW, supporting the idea that you didn't actually read the OP, perhaps you could answer the question I posed in the second paragraph? If not, I will simply assume (probably correctly) that you are nothing more than the ignorant flaming forum troll that you appear to be.

Have fun, and fly safe.

If you want to get rid of Kill mails, you also remove the joy of looking at expensive and hard kills you made. If you want to promote PvP, then I would more prefer something like : do not generate kill mails if a player who gets killed, has x million skill points or less. This gives beginners the opportunity to fck up many times learning pvp without messing up there kill board for ever. Using an alt for this is an option, but a waste of time and isks.

I wouldn't mind seeing kill mails removed from the game in order to reduce ganking for the explicit purpose of mindless e-peenery. Pushing PvP in the direction of being driven by meaningful in-game objectives rather than free intel, lulz, and meta-game ego stroking would make the game seem more realistic to me; as an RPer, I think that's important.

On the other hand, I don't PvP nearly enough to care, and because I make most of my ISK without undocking, I don't have to worry about the gankfest.

if you don't appreciate PVP
DON'T ******* PLAY A MULTI-PLAYER PVP GAME!

No one would need to worry about being humiliated

While I can appreciate the real-world comparisons with regard to the human propensity for keeping score, the problem in EVE is that people PvP solely for kill mails rather than tangible, game-related objectives. No soldier in the real world goes to war expressly for the purpose of stroking his ego with a kill count.

No soldier in the real world goes to war expressly for the purpose of stroking his ego with a kill count.

Works as intended, petition closed.

No really, this is sadly the way CCP encourages the blood/tearshed. It's all about hurting players, taking what they own, feeling good about it and boast about it. So in terms of role playing games many players chose the tear harvester demon class.

It's established, removing it would make people emo quit rage, though I guess, those players deserve some crying themselves.

The butt-hurt in this forum is awesome!

Call me evil if you think so, but I just find that when people cry about their quarterback getting sacked I can't do anything but point and laugh.

Killmails are the biggest problem with EVE. If you're in corp A you must be on X number of killmails a month. We're fighting corp B, and we know they use Z fit, so you must fly ship B and use fit Y. Killmails ruin the PVP aspect of the game for many other people. Considering how many threads I have seen about removing killmails, I know that I am not alone in this regard.

What other game do you play that gives more than just the name of character you killed, or even just basic stats like how many people you killed? What game, when you kill another character, tells you (regardless of whether you loot them or not) EXACTLY what they had equipped, how much damage they dealt, what buffs were affecting them, and (the ultimate bullshit) what was in their inventory?

Removing killmails would actually promote PVP, as more people would be willing to go into a fight, even knowing they may lose. No one would need to worry about being humiliated for so-called "lolfits". No one could be excluded for not having enough kills. Killmails take a lot of the fun out of the game.

If you want to know what your target has fitted or in cargo, use ship and cargo scanners before you kill them. Killmails are also a big reason that people gank. I won't argue that people gank for fun or profit, but people that do it just to pad their kill/lose ratio are just pathetic. Ganking is not PVP. Ganking is the equivalent of beating up the elderly (namely, a victim that can't fight back). Removing killmails won't stop people from ganking, but it may alter the reasons that they gank.

Get rid of killmails, and bring make EVE more fun to play. Even though is my industry main, I do have PVP alts who have operated in low- and null-sec. Feel free to flame me for this, but it is my opinion, based in simple facts.

Fly safe.

Edit: I have no problem with tracking kill/lose ratios. The problem that I have is the level of effortless intel provided by killmails. If you want to know how my ship is fit, or what cargo I am hauling, fit a ship and cargo scanner. Oh wait, that would require that you actually fit something that isn't tank or gank, and apply some effort to gaining the intel you desire.

I think enough have posted about the OPGÇÖs post, not only is he wrong in my opinion but playing a game where the special features like KMGÇÖs makes the gameplay more than your average FPS shooty game is just one extra reason why EVE is EVE.

I recently played Battlefield 3 on PC, it was fun for a week or two, then it got nerffed by popular kiddy demand via the EA forums, so much was changed that the fun element was lost from the game, now every gun is like evey other, every sight is virtually the same as all the others with different graphicsGǪ. BF3 will die fast.

Eve is different, every ship can be configured in 100GÇÖs of 1000GÇÖs of ways, making every ships defensive & offensive setting totally different from most. The KM is not only a trophy but also a confirmation of the lost shipGÇÖs setup, confirming that it was not just luck or overwhelming SP that lead to itGÇÖs loss.

Off topic, IGÇÖm glad Eve is a subscription game, otherwise it might just fall to the 'nerf kiddies', calling for all strategic data & play to be removedGǪ..

Funny coming from a 'don't griefs me' carebear ****** last week.. sudden change of heart?

I guess it was a first class motivation to kick Iceman from the first place.

I wouldn't mind seeing kill mails removed from the game in order to reduce ganking for the explicit purpose of mindless e-peenery. Pushing PvP in the direction of being driven by meaningful in-game objectives rather than free intel, lulz, and meta-game ego stroking would make the game seem more realistic to me; as an RPer, I think that's important.

On the other hand, I don't PvP nearly enough to care, and because I make most of my ISK without undocking, I don't have to worry about the gankfest.