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Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.28 01:11:00 -
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Has anyone been able to get a workaround to lock your 2-3 clients to your monitor's refresh rate (individually)? I run 3 clients, and I'm unable to get 60fps on all 3 at the same time. My main issue being, if any client is not locked to refresh rate, the frames rocket up over 150-200fps+, causing my cards to overheat (especially in CQ w/ Characters).
- If I set "Interval Default" (Vsync), to main client, it will lock at 60.
- If I set all 3 to "Interval Default", it splits 60fps by 3, issuing 20fps to each client (unplayable).
- If I just let it go at "Interval Immediate" (Vsync Off), then my GPUs melt, because I get over 250fps+ on all clients.
- Have tried setting in drivers, and with Nvidia Inspector, with no success.
How do I lock all 3 clients to 60fps?? |
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.28 15:29:00 -
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Anyone?
It's getting kind of annoying having to run my GPU's at 90%+ fan speed... Rather loud. |
OkarasRule
Iron Skies
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Posted - 2011.12.29 18:28:00 -
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Syphon Lodian wrote:Anyone?
It's getting kind of annoying having to run my GPU's at 90%+ fan speed... Rather loud.
Have you setup the cliants to run from different installs? I run 3 at the same time and I used to always have a similar fps isue your enjoying right now, try running in different installs "copy paste the install folder and shourtcut it". I used to have voice problems aswell untill i tried that and it seems to have worked. I also run them in window mode stretched to full screen resolutions if that helps. |
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.29 23:46:00 -
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I did as it suggests in EVELopedia and created junctions (basically copy-pasted folders), but it still runs identical .exe files. I also run in "full screen windowed".
Thinking that I have to change the names of the 3 .exe files to fool the system/drivers into thinking it's running three different games. Right now, I think it's tricked into thinking it's queuing up the same game, same file. |
Skyla Kavatina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.30 01:03:00 -
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Syphon Lodian wrote:Has anyone been able to get a workaround to lock your 2-3 clients to your monitor's refresh rate (individually)? I run 3 clients, and I'm unable to get 60fps on all 3 at the same time. My main issue being, if any client is not locked to refresh rate, the frames rocket up over 150-200fps+, causing my cards to overheat (especially in CQ w/ Characters).
- If I set "Interval Default" (Vsync), to main client, it will lock at 60.
- If I set all 3 to "Interval Default", it splits 60fps by 3, issuing 20fps to each client (unplayable).
- If I just let it go at "Interval Immediate" (Vsync Off), then my GPUs melt, because I get over 250fps+ on all clients.
- Have tried setting in drivers, and with Nvidia Inspector, with no success.
How do I lock all 3 clients to 60fps??
On my rig each client has it's own graphics card and they all run at 60fps no problem. |
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.12.30 01:20:00 -
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Skyla Kavatina wrote:On my rig each client has it's own graphics card and they all run at 60fps no problem.
Nvidia ? What drivers are you using.. ?
I've been using 290.36, and about to try the new 290.53. |
VirusMD
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2012.01.12 04:55:00 -
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I have this exact same problem, Interval One or Default shares FPS across 3 clients (20 FPS) each, and interval immediate cooks my cards. I only have 2 cards, but even when run from separate installation, on separate disks, separate monitors, and renamed exe's (eve.exe, cant rename the exefile.exe or fails to launch) but they still still share FPS. I'm running the Nvidia 290.36 Beta Drivers also. Please post a reply if you update to 290.53 fixes this issue.
Specs:
Intel Core i7 3.4 GHz Quad Core, Dual Channel
16 GB 1033 MHz Ram
2x Geforce GTX 460 SE (Over clocked to 810/1900 MHz)
3x Internal 1 TB 6 GB/sec Sata Hard Drives
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
Nvidia 290.36 Beta Drivers.
Thank You,
- VirusMD |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.12 12:32:00 -
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Why don't you just force the refresh rate using the graphics driver control panel?
Edit - ah you have. Are you sure windows has the monitors all running at the same refresh rate? There was a problem with Windows 7 where it'd set refresh rate to 59.997 or similar rather than 60 Hz when you connected multiple monitors - can't remember how I fixed that though. |
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.12 18:15:00 -
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Othran wrote:
Are you sure windows has the monitors all running at the same refresh rate? There was a problem with Windows 7 where it'd set refresh rate to 59.997 or similar rather than 60 Hz when you connected multiple monitors - can't remember how I fixed that though.
I checked that too, seemed like it would be a problem. I have 2 monitors that were running at 59hz, with my main at 60hz (for some reason), and even after forcing 60hz on all 3, it still has the same split FPS problem. I really don't know what it is..
My only guess is that Nvidia thinks it's running the same application, so it keeps applying the vsync to each instance. No idea how to fix it.
I've tried the latest beta drivers 290.53, so no luck on that either. |
Skyla Kavatina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.01.13 14:23:00 -
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Syphon Lodian wrote:Skyla Kavatina wrote:On my rig each client has it's own graphics card and they all run at 60fps no problem. Nvidia ? What drivers are you using.. ? I've been using 290.36, and about to try the new 290.53.
Sorry, forgot to add I'm using ATI HD3870's with the latest Catalyst package.
I checked the graphics setting in my clients. For 3 clients, try setting 2 clients to Interval Immediate and the 3rd to Interval Default. It should lock all three clients to whatever the Interval Default client is running at. |
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VirusMD
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2012.01.16 23:19:00 -
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Just thought id let you know, I'm currently talking with nvidia tech support to attempt to find a solution, so far we have:
Rolled back to 275.33 Drivers
Clean install of the 290.36 Beta Driver
Updated to the newest 290.56 Beta Drivers
none of these have any effect on the multi-client FPS sharing issue.I did have to re-install my 3D Transmitter each time thoe.
at this point they believe it to be an issue with the game itself, probably something cause by the most recent expansion.
On a personal note:
CCP Closed my petition with a cut and paste answer to file a bug report. The bug report has not been assessed as of this post. Another fine example of CCP's winning customer service, hard at napping. Ive already had more chats with nvidia customer support about eve than with CCP and its not even there product and 90% likely caused by CCP.
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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2012.01.17 14:24:00 -
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I haven't been looking at the Issues forum as I have more been monitoring the Test Server feedback for my team. But I did come across this thread. Found your report, assigning it to someone to have a look.
CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends
@CCP_Paradox |
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Harleigh
Genbuku.
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.01.17 14:52:00 -
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Well I can chime in with my rig that is not having any probs with 3 clients:
Core i7 6-core
Asus sabertooth x58 motherboard
ATI 6970 - no issues over the last year worth of driver updates
3 Samsung monitors @ 1920 x 1200
Frame rates seem to be fine and i constantly run 3 clients in windowed mode. All clients are launched from the same client install. I haven't had to bother copying multiple client directories.
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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2012.01.17 15:02:00 -
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I confirmed VirusMD's issue on my machine. Introduced only recently in Crucible it seems.
Your report is in our system, I will update here again when it is fully identified + fixed.
CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends
@CCP_Paradox |
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Cryten Jones
Advantage Inc
The Matari Consortium
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Posted - 2012.01.17 15:50:00 -
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pair of GTX570's here running in 3 monitor mode.
One client per screen, all windowed mode.
All three clients FPS monitor show 60fps at the same time
Set to interval 1 all settings on high except AA is off on all three... that does lag me big time with 3 clients
Happy to provide exports / screenshots if needed.
-CJ
p.s. Force ware -- 285.38 |
VirusMD
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2012.01.17 23:23:00 -
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Thank you for your response Paradox, please keep me/us informed. Is it to early for an estimated time for the fix? Maybe its hardware specific something I can change temporarily, I have several machines. Moving parts around is no problem.
- VirusMD |
Gasgat Alur
The Order of the Oar
P R I M E
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Posted - 2012.01.24 13:11:00 -
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I have a similiar problem. Using GTX570.
On 1 screen running 1 client:
Interval one = 60FPS
Interval Default = 60FPS
Interval Immediate = 200+FPS
On 2 screens using split screen, running 1 client on one of the screens only:
Interval one = 30FPS
Interval Default = 30FPS
Interval Immediate = 200+FPS
Seems like EvE is using these maths: "60fps/screens = fps per screen"  |
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.25 07:03:00 -
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I'm glad it's being looked into.. would be interesting to know the real cause. Considering it's only a select few players here and there. |
EntroX
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2012.02.19 07:05:00 -
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i am having literally the same issue, running 2x 570 GTX.
rest of my specs are:
Intel i7 2600k @ 4.4Ghz
16GB of DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz
Asus P67 Sabretooth
2x Dell 24" LED's (1920x1080) and 1x Samsung 24" LED (1920x1080)
2x EVGA 570GTX SuperClocked
i thought initially that it might have been the SLI bridge and after a lot of poking i somehow ended up in this thread, i can confirm that both with and without it the issue persists~
FailHeap Lotteries, the only lottery where failure is an option: http://flhp.me/lotto/ |
Master Nina
The 8th Tribe Seraphim
Dragoons.
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Posted - 2012.02.20 10:05:00 -
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So this is why i have **** FPS with a gtx 580! Thanks forumguys! |
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R3VOh
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.02.21 21:41:00 -
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I'm having exactly the same issue.
I am running 2 x 1080p monitors with 2 clients. On fullscreen run at 60FPS dropping to 59.5 at most. 1 client running in windowed mode or even fixed window and the FPS drops to 30 FPS.....and is REALLY REALLY erratic. Jumps anywhere from 15-40 FPS. I thought this might have been all the crap installed on my PC, so i formatted it while i installed the mobo, cpu, ram etc etc into my new case.
my PC specs:
q6600 @ 3.2ghz
Asus P5QL PRO
4gb Kingston Hyperx
sapphire radeon 4890 vapor-x 1gb
Not the fastest or newest PC but it should handle 60FPS on both clients especially on low GFX settings.
any help would be appreciated. |
Jolen Maddax
Maddax Mercantile
0
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Posted - 2012.02.26 09:36:00 -
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Just chiming in here to report I have the same problem as these fine gentlemen.
Brand spanking new i7/2600K / 16GB / 2 x nVidia GTX560-Ti in non-SLI powering 3 monitors.
I load 1 EVE client, I have 60fps regardless of settings. Load 2, I get ~30 and load 3 and get ~20, but it seems to jump around a lot.
Switch to "interval immediate" and my video cards go to plaid with anywhere from 250-600 face-melting FPS and all my fans have kittens. Even the bathroom fan comes on.
Please fix this, CCP, now that you've reproduced it. I'm planning on four monitors soon. :(
Thanks.
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Jolen Maddax
Maddax Mercantile
0
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Posted - 2012.02.29 18:27:00 -
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Dunno if people that posted in this thread are still having this issue, but I think I've discovered the culprit.
After doing lots of googling and fiddling, I disabled the Windows 7 Aero theme (going to pure basic, with no frills) and then was able to get three clients of EVE running on three monitors in non-SLI on 2 GTX560s at a full 60 fps without any major dropouts. I ran it this way all night.
The problem had been documented before on eve-o forums, and it may not be the EVE client's fault. Windows Aero uses transparencies and other fancy affects that turn vsync on to make sure stuff is smooth. The problem is that some *windowed* games that also use vsync (like, say, EVE) get messed up by this. It appears to be a timing thing, not a horsepower thing.
I disabled Aero by choosing the basic theme, went into the performance options for the computer (right-click Computer, properties and it's in one of those tabs -- on a Mac at work atm, can't look it up) and turned off all stuff except smoothing screen fonts. Set EVE to interval one and interval default at different times to test it; settled on one. I had 60fps on all clients. Cards were running relatively low load and I even set an underclock profile and they were still able to maintain 60fps.
Fixed.
There may be something CCP can do to program around this (or had before and it only recently appeared again). It appears that this bug only affects some games that run windowed mode.
My setup:
i7/2600
16GB
2xGTX560Ti w/latest drivers (SLI connected but currently disabled)
3 Samsung BX2440's (1 on primary, 2 on secondary card)
Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1
Good luck, all. I'm buying that 4th monitor now. :D |
VirusMD
Global Economy Experts
Stellar Economy Experts
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Posted - 2012.03.23 08:33:00 -
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Thank you very much Jolen! disabling aero worked for me as well, really appreciate it. Its a shame it took so long to find a work around. Didn't like all the windows shiny anyway.
All systems go, 3 clients running smoothly at 60FPS each :)
TYVM,
- VIrusMD |
Mawnee
Sleepless Knights
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Posted - 2012.04.30 09:56:00 -
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Any word an an actual fix for this? Having the ugly windows basic borders around my clients is nearly as distracting as the FPS drop.... |
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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2012.04.30 11:25:00 -
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This should be resolved already. Update to the latest drivers and try again.
CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends
@CCP_Paradox |
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Mjedesiin
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:27:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:This should be resolved already. Update to the latest drivers and try again.
I'm on the 301.24 driver. With one client open, on the select character screen, my framerate under Interval Immediate is about 480FPS. With Interval One selected, it drops to 30FPS. Start a second client, with II seleected both are around 350FPS, switch to IO and they're both at 15FPS. Windowed mode, Aero enabled (obviously).
Anything I should look at to help debug this? |
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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:45:00 -
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"Interval default" is the monitor refresh rate. Or the V-Sync option. If your monitor is 60Hz, then it should stay at 60fps.
CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends
@CCP_Paradox |
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Adeena Torcfist
Dark Underground Forces
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:58:00 -
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it should, but obviously it doest as people are saying.
Jolen Maddax, have you, by any chance, tried unticking the tick boxes seperatley to see which is the main culprit? untickign almost all of them, seems liek a quick soloution, rather than finding which one is actually causing it.
IF you do manage to try this out, post your results  |
Mjedesiin
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 15:16:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:"Interval default" is the monitor refresh rate. Or the V-Sync option. If your monitor is 60Hz, then it should stay at 60fps.
My monitors are running at 60Hz. If I switch to windows basic, multiple clients run at 60FPS. If I switch to using Aero (although it might not be Aero itself, could be some other setting that's different between the basic theme and the aero theme) it drops to 30FPS with one client, 15FPS with two.
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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2012.04.30 15:20:00 -
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Mjedesiin, could you please submit a bug report for me? (Press F12 when you are in the game, with a client getting 30 or 15fps).
In the title, include my name somewhere, "for CCP Paradox".
You don't have to write much in the description etc, I just want the logs that it sends me.
I'm unable to reproduce anymore on my machine here at CCP, I used to be able to but not since we "fixed" it. It seems you're still affected. Let me know ASAP when you submit the report.
CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends
@CCP_Paradox |
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Mjedesiin
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 16:21:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Mjedesiin, could you please submit a bug report for me? (Press F12 when you are in the game, with a client getting 30 or 15fps).
In the title, include my name somewhere, "for CCP Paradox".
You don't have to write much in the description etc, I just want the logs that it sends me.
I'm unable to reproduce anymore on my machine here at CCP, I used to be able to but not since we "fixed" it. It seems you're still affected. Let me know ASAP when you submit the report.
Done. |
Inspiration
Focused Radical Energy Engineering
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Posted - 2012.04.30 20:39:00 -
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What I always missed when I had a less monstrous graphics card was an interval 2 option, in fact I would still use it now if available.
This game if perfectly playable at 30FPS, so why not enjoy a stable frame rate and better nicer rendered frames, versus a wasteful toggle between 30 and 60 FPS due to vsynch being on? Let alone the death to the eardrums on some rigs with vsynch off! |
Aeron Sophus
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.04.30 20:49:00 -
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@CCP Paradox:
There is a 'problem' with VSync and Aero which is well known in the video playback scene (doom9.org etc.) - unfortunately I can't find the (quite detailed) documentation on it right now, however, if I remember correctly, it (somewhat-surprisingly) boiled down to a timing code issue and the only way developers managed to get rid of it COMPLETELY is is by switching their code to use some of the NT 6.x exclusive stuff:
Of course, doing so would probably take a LONG time considering EVEs age, but I think it's something you should keep in the back of your mind. :)
If I manage to find the Aero/Vsync documentation I mentioned, I'll post it here. |
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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2012.05.02 09:51:00 -
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Thanks for the report Mjedesiin, I'm working on it.
CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends
@CCP_Paradox |
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Bokeye Arbosa
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.05.03 21:28:00 -
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Chiming in to report that switching from the Aero theme fixed my multiple-client issues. It was previously unplayable with 2 clients, very heavy stuttering (about 1-3 FPS).
The windows classic theme is hideous but I can deal with it until a fix is made. |
nVus Antollare
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.05.05 19:28:00 -
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Turn off/Disable Anti-Aliasing on each of your clients |
Mjedesiin
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
3
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Posted - 2012.05.06 02:31:00 -
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nVus Antollare wrote:Turn off/Disable Anti-Aliasing on each of your clients
Tried it before. Disabled it in game, then disabled it via NVIDIA control panel, no change.
Anyone know what else is different between aero and basic other than transparency, the hover-over program bar (preview), and the alt-tab window? Maybe each of those could be disabled separately somehow. |
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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2012.05.08 17:25:00 -
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I have reproduced and confirmed the problem after speaking to a player. From the Bug Reports, the similar clue was that people had a second video device listed in their DxDiag. Whether you guys were using a second Nvidia device as a physx processor, or just to plug another monitor into.
This is causing the problem, if you unplug a monitor that is connected to the second device. (Whether it is a second PCIE GPU or the GPU found on a CPU (Core i7 etc)) then you will notice that EVE will behave normally, i.e V-Sync will kick in to your monitors true refresh rate.
Now we have the information to debug this, we can work on a specific fix. For now, if you have a monitor plugged into a second video device and are wanting to play EVE, you should disconnect it. Hopefully a fix will come as soon as possible. Sorry for the inconvenience, and a special thanks to the one player who persisted and helped me out.
CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends
@CCP_Paradox |
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Tusko Hopkins
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
9
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:30:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:For now, if you have a monitor plugged into a second video device and are wanting to play EVE, you should disconnect it. Hopefully a fix will come as soon as possible.
Thanks a lot! This totally worked for me! I had 2 monitors attached to a GeForce 560 and a TV connected to the sandy bridge. One more reason for the girlfriend to hate EVE now, she won't be able to watch Gossip Girl during the fleet ops... |
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Mjedesiin
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:36:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:I have reproduced and confirmed the problem after speaking to a player. From the Bug Reports, the similar clue was that people had a second video device listed in their DxDiag. Whether you guys were using a second Nvidia device as a physx processor, or just to plug another monitor into.
This is causing the problem, if you unplug a monitor that is connected to the second device. (Whether it is a second PCIE GPU or the GPU found on a CPU (Core i7 etc)) then you will notice that EVE will behave normally, i.e V-Sync will kick in to your monitors true refresh rate.
Now we have the information to debug this, we can work on a specific fix. For now, if you have a monitor plugged into a second video device and are wanting to play EVE, you should disconnect it. Hopefully a fix will come as soon as possible. Sorry for the inconvenience, and a special thanks to the one player who persisted and helped me out.
Excellent! Thanks very much, we appreciate it. :) |
Wolfduke
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.21 01:15:00 -
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Any word on this fix? |
Malgarin
Invictus Australis
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.07.22 05:10:00 -
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Confirming this is still an issue on TQ. Thanks :) |
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