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VJ Maverick
Caldari
Maverick Specialized Services
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Posted - 2007.04.28 02:47:00 -
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 Originally by: ForeverKnight
You'd still use an Omni ECCM on a Jovian Battleship on the OFF Chance that some jerk will actually be able to jam your first sensor type.
Notice that I have, several times, acknowledged the feasibility of using an Omni ECCM on a Jove ship - but for every other ship (you know, the ones that people actually fly into combat), that module is useless because 75% of its "usefullness" is wasted. If you have say, gravimetric sensor strength of 0, it doesn't make any sense to boost it by 80% because 0 + (.8)(0)= 0. Use a racial one instead and save some cap and fitting reqs. But if you have an Eidolon lying somewhere gathering dust and are just aching to put an Omni ECCM on it, be my guest. I personally would use that mid-slot for something else.
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Lyn Bunnions
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Posted - 2007.04.28 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Xeios
Originally by: dalman
Most useless mod is: regenerative platings.
Bull. =)
With a load of these and t2 armor hp rigs you can get like 200k armor hp's out of a Augoror navy issue, Thats a cruiser btw 
And I see we have another winner of the "post without math"-award.
You can't look a HP without resistance. You must look at HP with the resistance factored in. And then it's the simple truth that these modules are useless. If you fit one, you are wrong. Period. There will always be a better mod for you to fit in that slot.
You'd need 98% resists across the board to get the equiv of 200k hps on an auguror.
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Raasvuur Milenko
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Posted - 2007.04.28 07:33:00 -
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I would like to remove Regenerative plating from the list, Cap ships, it provides more hps then a plate, so if you looking for a nice easy hp boost after working on your resists, there ya go.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.04.28 07:41:00 -
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Large Cap Batteries - I use them on certain ships while traveling, to avoid running out of cap on very large jumps.
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.28 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Raasvuur Milenko
I would like to remove Regenerative plating from the list, Cap ships, it provides more hps then a plate, so if you looking for a nice easy hp boost after working on your resists, there ya go.
Another EANM, hardener, cap relay, WCS will be better.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2007.04.28 09:16:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 28/04/2007 09:12:43
Originally by: Stakhanov
Lots of useless rigs...
-scanner module time (having a randomized ship scanner result 1 second earlier must win battles , sure)
-warp core optimizer , warp cap (because those 100+ AU systems require a rig slot , really)
Well, if you want to scan down someone who's just logged off before their ship disappears, you need rigs to have a decent chance to do it, and they save a lot of time if you're exploring. The hyperspatial velocity optimiser rigs are quite popular in certain circles, too...
I really like the notion of a Jovian battleship with a multispectral ECCM fitted. I suppose the same applies to anyone flying CONCORD special ops cruisers, too. I'm honoured that my entry, the shield flux coil, has been pushed into second place.
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lyn Bunnions
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Xeios
Originally by: dalman
Most useless mod is: regenerative platings.
Bull. =)
With a load of these and t2 armor hp rigs you can get like 200k armor hp's out of a Augoror navy issue, Thats a cruiser btw
And I see we have another winner of the "post without math"-award.
You can't look a HP without resistance. You must look at HP with the resistance factored in. And then it's the simple truth that these modules are useless. If you fit one, you are wrong. Period. There will always be a better mod for you to fit in that slot.
You'd need 98% resists across the board to get the equiv of 200k hps on an auguror.
Think before you take your next guess.
Why don't you just post the suggested fitting with regeneratives...
...and then take them all off and put on resistance instead and come back and say it.
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:46:00 -
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I got a Navy Augoror to 64500 armor i think it was.
And i didn`t use a single Regen Membrane, because plates/hardeners work a lot better.
Just did a test for fun, found out a damnation could get 350k effective HP, undocked it and tried to warp.
Docked, Strip Fit, open Market.
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Sniperpirate
Minmatar
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.28 11:53:00 -
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t2 heavy energy neuts
their range sux compared to the best named t1
to fix this increase range or reduce cap usage amount from 600 to 500 to keep it more inline
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Blitz'Krieg
Caldari
SkyMarshal Logistics
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Posted - 2007.04.28 12:50:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Blitz''Krieg on 28/04/2007 12:53:11
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Originally by: Apsa1ar
Edited by: Apsa1ar on 27/04/2007 17:31:32
The true most useless module in Eve - multispec ECCM - like ECCM - Omni I
There is never a reason to use a multi-spec ECCM over the racial ECCM.
I think we've got a winner. 1B ISK to anyone who can come up with a good and "reasonable" purpose of multi-spec ECCM over a racial ECCM.
nvm. changed the stats :D
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Aries Acheron
The Valour
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.04.28 16:38:00 -
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Eve-Tribune Article: Fitting for Failure
Take a look at that. Pre-patch Overdrives are there, bulkheads, shield flux coils... all disgustingly bad.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.28 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 28/04/2007 17:32:51
Originally by: Got b00ns
2.Logistic ships in general
Like my scimitar for remote shield support in pve (2 accounts).
Almost 1300 shield boost every 5 seconds with tech-1 stuff running permanently, every 4.5 seconds with tech-2 (if it fits) and it costs almost nothing for a tech-2 ship.
*edit* reminds me that I wanted to test the rigs on it that decrease the time even further. Just don't know, if they also work for remote boosters.
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Roan Pilgrano
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.04.28 18:05:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Ashrius
Does anyone use Passive Targeters?
Umm.. I use them for stacking tritanium, 15000 tri approxiametly in a 5 m3 stack. As far as actual ships, no.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.28 18:42:00 -
[74]
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Also, seeing as how I've never seen a player-flown Jove battleship, your example is outside the realm of "reasonableness".
Machariel.
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VJ Maverick
Caldari
Maverick Specialized Services
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Posted - 2007.04.28 21:01:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Janu Hull
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Also, seeing as how I've never seen a player-flown Jove battleship, your example is outside the realm of "reasonableness".
Machariel.
What about it?
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2007.04.28 21:16:00 -
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The Machariel's description:
Quote:
While its utilitarian look may not give much of an indication, many are convinced that the Machariel is based on an ancient Jovian design uncovered by the Angel Cartel in one of their extensive exploratory raids into uncharted territory some years ago. Whatever the case may be, this behemoth appeared on the scene suddenly and with little fanfare, and has very quickly become one of the Arch Angels' staple war vessels.
Not Jove in the strict sense, but I think that's the idea...
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VanDam
Caldari
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.28 21:21:00 -
[77]
passive targeter?
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Ling Xiao
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Posted - 2007.04.28 21:30:00 -
[78]
Passive Targeter has uses in Empire to cargo scan vessels without alerting them.
In other words, suicide ganking Iterons stuffed with riches.
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VJ Maverick
Caldari
Maverick Specialized Services
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Posted - 2007.04.28 22:40:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
The Machariel's description:
Quote:
While its utilitarian look may not give much of an indication, many are convinced that the Machariel is based on an ancient Jovian design uncovered by the Angel Cartel in one of their extensive exploratory raids into uncharted territory some years ago. Whatever the case may be, this behemoth appeared on the scene suddenly and with little fanfare, and has very quickly become one of the Arch Angels' staple war vessels.
Not Jove in the strict sense, but I think that's the idea...
The discussion concerned actual Jove BS's like the Eidolon which have 4 sensor strengths. The Machariel only has LADAR. And it is not a true Jove ship as per its stats - only its background lore.
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Mr Mudd
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Posted - 2007.04.28 23:15:00 -
[80]
Codebreaker modules suck!!!
Also - fof missiles...
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Aggressive Salesman
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.29 09:57:00 -
[81]
Target painters hands down  |
lyrenna
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.29 12:37:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Aggressive Salesman
Target painters hands down
you never flyed a torpedo cnr for pve isnt:D
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Sirilonwe
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.29 16:56:00 -
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Mmmm...
- Cobra/Pythons mine. Yes they still exists and i have some in my hangar :). Thoses are really unusable since no launcher can handle them anymore :P.
- autotargetter: still buggy I think
- Cargo scanner/Ship scanner: Maybe usefull in some rare cases. They would be a lot more usefull if usable when cloaked in combination with a passive targeter (intelligence report FTW).
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Shacksman
Gallente
Dark Knights of Deneb
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Posted - 2007.04.29 22:04:00 -
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Remote sensor booster
zors costom navigation link {the afterburner one}
any type of regenerative plating
tracking links will almost result in friendly fire
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