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Arthure Pentedragoon
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.18 21:17:16 -
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I guess the big question is
will CCP allow purchasing OMEGA time in 1 NewPLEX increments. ? 
If so a lot of specialized alts can be left ALPHA except for the exact time that you need them at full OMEGA skill.
Yet somebody will still need OMEGA to add skill points into EVE either by direct toon traiing time or as injectors.
Sort of win-win for CCP and players. The ultimate flexibility. Players can more quickly fly Titan or whatever via injectors without dedicating their RL...but also save some money afterwards by goign OMEGA only on weekends. (LOL - Sounds odd to spend hundreds RL to jump into capital ship immediately then squeeze pennies as weekend warrior. But people on budgets do stuff like that with hobbies all the time when they expect years of involvement.)
And skins and other stuff may well sell better when its only exchanging a few hours of game play -- rather than committing to exchanging a whole OldPLEX (30 days of gameplayer) which can then really be spent only on more (often far less wanted) store stuff. |

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
287
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Posted - 2017.03.18 21:19:00 -
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Hirisho Presolana wrote:since the most commented thing is the <1000 aur strip..
why don't you use this: >1000 = Microplex conversion <1000 = isk conversion
Why not just convert PLEX to AUR ?GǪ That would make more sense, than converting AUR to "microplex" (brrrGǪ who ever thought of that),
Two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
6564
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Posted - 2017.03.18 21:23:58 -
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Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:I guess the big question is will CCP allow purchasing OMEGA time in 1 NewPLEX increments. ?  If so a lot of specialized alts can be left ALPHA except for the exact time that you need them at full OMEGA skill. Yet somebody will still need OMEGA to add skill points into EVE either by direct toon traiing time or as injectors. Sort of win-win for CCP and players. The ultimate flexibility. Players can more quickly fly Titan or whatever via injectors without dedicating their RL...but also save some money afterwards by goign OMEGA only on weekends. (LOL - Sounds odd to spend hundreds RL to jump into capital ship immediately then squeeze pennies as weekend warrior. But people on budgets do stuff like that with hobbies all the time when they expect years of involvement.) And skins and other stuff may well sell better when its only exchanging a few hours of game play -- rather than committing to exchanging a whole OldPLEX (30 days of gameplayer) which can then really be spent only on more (often far less wanted) store stuff.
No. 30 days chunks only.
Quote:Q: With smaller PLEX, will I be able to buy less than 30 days of Omega time? A: We currently we have no plans regarding smaller game time packages.
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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1320
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Posted - 2017.03.18 22:10:22 -
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Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:marly cortez wrote:beakerax wrote:1000 seems easier to understand than 500GǪ Dunno, I never in my life mistook the number '1' for anything other than '1'. As to this Plex issue, having never had the need for plex since multi boxing got kicked into touch, the whole thing seems to put it politely, a non-issue. However, the darker picture here is this advertisement, seems the selling reptiles have slithered in by the back door to me battering your face with products no one would ever consider buying in the first place always missing the real point here, that if it really was any good people would already know all about it and would not require this intrusive prompting. Old PLEX is 720 hours of game play for 14.95 without any discounts or specials.The RL CCP base price (not volume discounted) price of PLEX would equate to 0.03 USD per NewPLEX. But I expect CCP to sell in all sorts of lot sizes (100, 250, 333, 750, 1000, 5000, etc) both for user flexibility and to simply erase the old cost of game time from user minds. Where do you buy a Plex for $14.95? 1 months game time via "Add game time" is $14.95 1 Plex is $19.95 via the Plex store.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Urziel99
Unified Research and Industrial
190
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Posted - 2017.03.18 22:11:44 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:I guess the big question is will CCP allow purchasing OMEGA time in 1 NewPLEX increments. ?  If so a lot of specialized alts can be left ALPHA except for the exact time that you need them at full OMEGA skill. Yet somebody will still need OMEGA to add skill points into EVE either by direct toon traiing time or as injectors. Sort of win-win for CCP and players. The ultimate flexibility. Players can more quickly fly Titan or whatever via injectors without dedicating their RL...but also save some money afterwards by goign OMEGA only on weekends. (LOL - Sounds odd to spend hundreds RL to jump into capital ship immediately then squeeze pennies as weekend warrior. But people on budgets do stuff like that with hobbies all the time when they expect years of involvement.) And skins and other stuff may well sell better when its only exchanging a few hours of game play -- rather than committing to exchanging a whole OldPLEX (30 days of gameplayer) which can then really be spent only on more (often far less wanted) store stuff. No. 30 days chunks only. Quote:Q: With smaller PLEX, will I be able to buy less than 30 days of Omega time? A: We currently we have no plans regarding smaller game time packages.
That's a shame really, if they are going to make the currency granular they should make the resulting sub more granular. Many free to play games use the model World of Tanks/Warships,and Armored Warfare [rip] to name a few. |

Aetran Molou
8 Sins of Man Nyx Legion
10
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Posted - 2017.03.18 22:19:54 -
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My biggest issue? Do not put it in our inventory window. We don't need to be consistently reminded to upgrade and have our UI cluttered with PLEX related items, especially for an Omega account. |

Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1320
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Posted - 2017.03.18 22:28:30 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:Lyrrashae wrote:It had to happen sooner or later.
Oh well, it was a fun nine years. because all my alts were cancelled the moment I tested new probe window on TQ. That is good news, you found a way to fix your issue with new bubble mechanics - Stop playing.
*If only I could believe it were true.. :)
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If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1155
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Posted - 2017.03.18 23:05:30 -
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I wish the remove this nonsense in the first place, wish eve was not a causal farming money cellphone game. Atleast that`s what is happening to eve lately and still going that way.
The only mmorpg without super stuff. But again even ccp failed in this. That`s why my subscribe is stop. And for now it looks like it will be stop for good. |

Ronnie Rose
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2017.03.18 23:12:41 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Hey guys, Just a quick update! Thanks for all the feedback so far - it's clear that there's been some pretty active and somewhat vigorous discussion of the proposed changes. Team Size Matters and the community team are running through this thread, looking over the feedback (both positive and negative) as well as the suggestions that all you guys are putting forward. We'll be taking a look at it, discussing it internally early after the weekend, and will be looking at how best to incorporate relevant feedback into the changes that are coming. Thanks again for all the feed back, and remember - Let's keep it civil here and within the realms of the forum rules 
I'll just repost this then so it is not lost to CCP...its just for consideration
I get it. CCP's proposal is to break up today's single PLEX to 500 mini-PLEXes. That means the new mini PLEX will be 500th of the value of what PLEX is running for.
So the math is simple 1,000,000,000 (estimated market value) / 500 = 2,000,000 ISK. So when one has their PLEX converted to mini PLEXes and has 500 of them, then post to the market 2,000,000.01 for each mini PLEX that's equals to 5 ISK should they all sell (2,000,000.01 x 500 = 1,000,000,005 ISK).
It stands to reason the smaller PLEX units will sell quicker under the illusion its more affordable. It's like taking a pack of cigarettes and selling each cigarette for a dollar. Cheaper than the whole pack, but in the long run costing more than buying a single pack (20 cigarettes, 1 dollar for each cigarette equals 20 bucks, when a pack runs like 7 bucks). This will create more demand for the mini PLEX driving higher prices, but I believe in the long run it will price out players like the OP who rely on making ingame ISK to pay for PLEX on the market. Sure that player will be able to "afford" the smaller PLEX denomination, but in the long run it will cost them more. Consequently, the price of commodities and items will also increase.
I bet the new mini PLEX will settle to about 2,200,000 ISK
We're not here to change the game, we're here to change YOUR game
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Olleybear
Armed And Angry
232
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Posted - 2017.03.19 00:19:22 -
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Johan Civire wrote:I wish the remove this nonsense in the first place, wish eve was not a causal farming money cellphone game. Atleast that`s what is happening to eve lately and still going that way.
The only mmorpg without super stuff. But again even ccp failed in this. That`s why my subscribe is stop. And for now it looks like it will be stop for good. Greetings capsuleer!
You make a bold claim that Eve Online is "a casual farming money cellphone game" Further, you make a second claim that "At lest that's what is happening to eve lately and still going that way" We(1) are very interested in this money farm via cellphone in Eve Online.
The words farming/money/casually, has peaked Our(1) curiosity and we are very interested to learn of said changes to Eve Online that have happened, and are still happening, that have turned Eve Online into a cellphone money farming game. We understand there are money farming cellphone games which are free to play that will soak you for hundreds, if not thousands, of real life currency in order to compete in said game and would like to know more so we can scrutinize your claim that it is the same with Eve Online.
Are you able to explain to us how Eve Online soaks a POD Pilot, via a cellphone, with paid for in game content, in the currency of their choice? The last we checked, for a small $14.95 monthly fee, less if you pay for multiple months in advance, you get access to the full game, minus some cosmetic effects to ship and character.
Of course, maybe you were referring to skill injectors that can only be bought currently with Aurum and how a new player with more real life currency than brains, in the current instant gratification culture, can simply buy their way through skill point advancement by injecting skill points another POD pilot has already taken the time to train by buying those skill points via PLEX conversion to isk. Have no fear brave muppet(2). Those fresh into the game, who buy their skillpoint advancement with RL currency instead of time, have no idea what ship inertia is let alone how to use it to their advantage in a combat setting.
Furthermore, there are plenty of POD Pilots who enjoy popping, dunking, and blowing up these nerds in a spaceship game over the internet. Rest assured those who buy their skill point advancement with RL currency, in lieu of both piloting skill and understanding of game mechanics, are losing their assets quite frequently. Indeed, someone who buys their way into a battleship via PLEX and skill injectors, yet has zero understanding of transversal, is already dead. They just dont know it yet. This, my friend, is a good thing.
Fine Print: (1)Our refers to the combined personalities of our effeminate, Queenly side and the more masculine, Kingly side coming together in an epiphany of raucous joviality. (2)Muppet - Most Useless Pod Pilot Ever Trained
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Arthure Pentedragoon
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.03.19 00:48:20 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:I guess the big question is will CCP allow purchasing OMEGA time in 1 NewPLEX increments. ?  If so a lot of specialized alts can be left ALPHA except for the exact time that you need them at full OMEGA skill. Yet somebody will still need OMEGA to add skill points into EVE either by direct toon traiing time or as injectors. No. 30 days chunks only. Quote:Q: With smaller PLEX, will I be able to buy less than 30 days of Omega time? A: We currently we have no plans regarding smaller game time packages.
Too bad. Should be trivial to code. Instead of incrementing expiration at 30 days from now - increment by 1 or 2 hours for each NewPLEX spent for game time. Pretty sure that transition to or from OMEGA status in mid-session already works smoothy, as does safe storage of newly added PLEX against server crash. At least I hope it does.
Although the net income change would be hard to predict. I would think training alone would keep most advanced players subscribing or PLEXing for continuous time regardless of PLEX or time increments.
It is however almost certain that many more ALPHA players would at least buy a few NewPLEX with ISK just to try out equipment within easy reach. Lots of ALPHA players can afford to buy say 5 NewPLEX with ISK
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Maenth
The Thirteen Provinces
30
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Posted - 2017.03.19 00:49:39 -
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While I don't follow PLEX prices closely, I'm sure many people do, and also appreciate being able to see and use the long-term graph. Additionally, PLEX has a solid history in its current state, as a large whole unit of game time/whatever. Most of all, it's a really nice and easy mental conversion to see and say that 1 PLEX = 1 month of Omega time. Is there any way to preserve this? Could PLEX be converted into a tradeable currency with fractional units?
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
6564
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Posted - 2017.03.19 01:12:11 -
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Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:I guess the big question is will CCP allow purchasing OMEGA time in 1 NewPLEX increments. ?  If so a lot of specialized alts can be left ALPHA except for the exact time that you need them at full OMEGA skill. Yet somebody will still need OMEGA to add skill points into EVE either by direct toon traiing time or as injectors. No. 30 days chunks only. Quote:Q: With smaller PLEX, will I be able to buy less than 30 days of Omega time? A: We currently we have no plans regarding smaller game time packages. Too bad. Should be trivial to code. Instead of incrementing expiration at 30 days from now - increment by 1 or 2 hours for each NewPLEX spent for game time. Pretty sure that transition to or from OMEGA status in mid-session already works smoothy, as does safe storage of newly added PLEX against server crash. At least I hope it does. Although the net income change would be hard to predict. I would think training alone would keep most advanced players subscribing or PLEXing for continuous time regardless of PLEX or time increments. It is however almost certain that many more ALPHA players would at least buy a few NewPLEX with ISK just to try out equipment within easy reach. Lots of ALPHA players can afford to buy say 5 NewPLEX with ISK
You don't see a reason why CCP might not want to let people pay for only an hour or two?
Woo! CSM XI!
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Arthure Pentedragoon
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.03.19 01:28:55 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:marly cortez wrote:beakerax wrote:1000 seems easier to understand than 500GǪ Dunno, I never in my life mistook the number '1' for anything other than '1'. As to this Plex issue, having never had the need for plex since multi boxing got kicked into touch, the whole thing seems to put it politely, a non-issue. However, the darker picture here is this advertisement, seems the selling reptiles have slithered in by the back door to me battering your face with products no one would ever consider buying in the first place always missing the real point here, that if it really was any good people would already know all about it and would not require this intrusive prompting. Old PLEX is 720 hours of game play for 14.95 without any discounts or specials.The RL CCP base price (not volume discounted) price of PLEX would equate to 0.03 USD per NewPLEX. But I expect CCP to sell in all sorts of lot sizes (100, 250, 333, 750, 1000, 5000, etc) both for user flexibility and to simply erase the old cost of game time from user minds. Where do you buy a Plex for $14.95? 1 months game time via "Add game time" is $14.95 1 Plex is $19.95 via the Plex store.
I had a brain gas explosion.
OK 0.04 USD per NewPLEX -- if price for 30 days via PLEXing does not change.
Most common(?) volume discount of 6 OldPLEX lot from CCP is still $17.50 USD
Used to be some big resellers that occasionally gave additional store discounts somehow. IDK if that still happens. Probably have to spend a lot RL money at that store if it does.
Yup PLEX is more expensive than subscription if paying directly with RL money. Sort of my point. Game Time is simply the bullion backing the lowest end value of a PLEX. But game time/multiple toon training time are also still the main reasons PLEX disappear from market.
Do not see a reason for CCP to change game subscription RL cost as soon or as much - if ever. Subscription price is not on market for speculation due to alternate uses or in-game ISK means of purchase. Flipping subscriptions to periodic delivery of a PLEX instead of just game time would likely blow up EVE without equalizing RL costs. Not impossible for CCP to do. But I will never expect it because too many people will eject if the constant $14.95/month changes much.
All leading back to why CCP might play with RL cost of PLEX raising it a small reasonable amount.
Assumption: Most people PLEXing for EVE game time are very successful in game, not paying RL money to play and thus unlikely to quit if RL PLEX costs rise a bit. 
Hopefully CCP calculates just right not to stress game play or players but enough to cover their bills with smaller paying player base. Oh and to get CCP stores to be worth all the artwork etc invested.
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Karmen Baric
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.03.19 01:44:59 -
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Changes seem fine. Like idea of only one currency, much easier to understand for new players.
Plex vault im fine with, good way for people to keep plex safe, especially new players again.
As for the only converting amounts above 1000AUR, fine with that also, and i assume CCP already thinks of this. Thry will not be taking peoplesAUR away im sure.
CCP Will do this i think ....Anyone with below 1000AUR can add more (mini)Plex to it so that they can buy items from the NES, thus they never lose their 500 or whatever AUR, they just dont get it converted.
EG: You have 500AUR leftover but want to buy a 5 skill extractor pack (currently 4500AUR), you add 560 more (mini)Plex. AUR is never taken away but for amounts less than 1000 it is historically saved.
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Martin Corwin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
46
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Posted - 2017.03.19 03:44:32 -
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1000 AUR is worth 5 Gé¼. If you void all the AUR balances < 1k AUR and STEAL all that money from your player base, I'm biomassing all my characters never to return.
I'm not going to support a company that's stealing money from their customers. |

Greg Valanti
The Scope Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2017.03.19 04:41:47 -
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What will be happening to AUR tokens? Do I need to redeem them before the changes or will they be automatically converted to the equivalent worth of the new PLEX? |

Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
1320
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Posted - 2017.03.19 05:10:45 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:I guess the big question is will CCP allow purchasing OMEGA time in 1 NewPLEX increments. ?  If so a lot of specialized alts can be left ALPHA except for the exact time that you need them at full OMEGA skill. Yet somebody will still need OMEGA to add skill points into EVE either by direct toon traiing time or as injectors. No. 30 days chunks only. Quote:Q: With smaller PLEX, will I be able to buy less than 30 days of Omega time? A: We currently we have no plans regarding smaller game time packages. Too bad. Should be trivial to code. Instead of incrementing expiration at 30 days from now - increment by 1 or 2 hours for each NewPLEX spent for game time. Pretty sure that transition to or from OMEGA status in mid-session already works smoothy, as does safe storage of newly added PLEX against server crash. At least I hope it does. Although the net income change would be hard to predict. I would think training alone would keep most advanced players subscribing or PLEXing for continuous time regardless of PLEX or time increments. It is however almost certain that many more ALPHA players would at least buy a few NewPLEX with ISK just to try out equipment within easy reach. Lots of ALPHA players can afford to buy say 5 NewPLEX with ISK You don't see a reason why CCP might not want to let people pay for only an hour or two? I can see a few reasons why, not an hour or two but a day or two could be beneficial.
Weekend Warriors - Those who have trained up characters to a point they are happy but due to RL can't play through the week and don't want to, can't afford to, sub an account they can only use a few days a month. I personally know of 3 or 4 players with many more accounts in this situation that currently don't play eve at all.
Being able to sub an account for a week - Could be just the thing to get on the fence Alpha's to sub. Once an Alpha has reached the skill point cap there isn't much else to do other than start a new character in a different faction. If they could sub their account for a week to train up a few more skills it may encourage them to stay subbed once they realize the benefits of T2.
Steve Ronuken, There are a few more use cases I can think of but I'm sure you get the idea..
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
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Kaivarian Coste
Placid Peace Corps
138
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Posted - 2017.03.19 09:02:47 -
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If CCP is interested in boosting population numbers, then it should give capsuleers an option to subscribe for less than 30 days. If granular PLEX is good, then so should be granular subscriptions, with 24 hours being a good minimum. This should appeal to casuals and weekend warriors who only play the game a few times per month, but don't wish for the limitations of alphas. Perhaps make a 24 hour subscription more "expensive" than a 30 day sub, eg:
500 plex = 30 days 50 plex = 1 day |

Xiu Kahn
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2017.03.19 10:42:51 -
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Nice that you want to break plex into smaller units. That should create more market activity. However I would prefer 1 large unit as a pilot extension or MCT option not 500. So a multipack option sold as a unit should be available for $19.95. As for Aurum I thought the concept was dumb to begin with to have multiple currencies. You might also want to find a new name for your currency since it has expanded beyond a simple Pilot License now.
I do think it is unwise to simply delete the remaining Arum for under 1000 units which still represents a small cash equivalent without offering something in return. Essentially we have paid for something and you have not returned our change. If we were in a store this would be a roof raising issue even if its only pennies on the dollar. In other cases it is called fraud and the government gets involved. The real one not the CSM. True the Eula says you can do what you want but you may want to consider turning those little Arum dollars into something useful. Maybe a coupon for a free skin or injector down the road. |
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
721
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Posted - 2017.03.19 10:47:55 -
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No. 30 days chunks only.
Quote:Q: With smaller PLEX, will I be able to buy less than 30 days of Omega time? A: We currently we have no plans regarding smaller game time packages. [/quote]
Too bad. Should be trivial to code. Instead of incrementing expiration at 30 days from now - increment by 1 or 2 hours for each NewPLEX spent for game time. Pretty sure that transition to or from OMEGA status in mid-session already works smoothy, as does safe storage of newly added PLEX against server crash. At least I hope it does.
Although the net income change would be hard to predict. I would think training alone would keep most advanced players subscribing or PLEXing for continuous time regardless of PLEX or time increments.
It is however almost certain that many more ALPHA players would at least buy a few NewPLEX with ISK just to try out equipment within easy reach. Lots of ALPHA players can afford to buy say 5 NewPLEX with ISK [/quote]
You don't see a reason why CCP might not want to let people pay for only an hour or two? [/quote]I can see a few reasons why, not an hour or two but a day or two could be beneficial.
Weekend Warriors - Those who have trained up characters to a point they are happy but due to RL can't play through the week and don't want to, can't afford to, sub an account they can only use a few days a month. I personally know of 3 or 4 players with many more accounts in this situation that currently don't play eve at all.
Being able to sub an account for a week - Could be just the thing to get on the fence Alpha's to sub. Once an Alpha has reached the skill point cap there isn't much else to do other than start a new character in a different faction. If they could sub their account for a week to train up a few more skills it may encourage them to stay subbed once they realize the benefits of T2.
Steve Ronuken, There are a few more use cases I can think of but I'm sure you get the idea..[/quote]
I fully agree.
They need to sort the 500:1 ratio, that just makes no sense. It's much more sensible to make it scale with single days and hours.
Being able to sub for a weekend has a good appeal, and it'll help players out who are maybe on hard times. Don't forget though that the isk still has to be earned to buy the micro plex in the first place.
As for no subs below 30 days....if they are even contemplating it in the future, they should do it now and not let the rumour mill keep rolling.
Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..."
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3522
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Posted - 2017.03.19 10:58:06 -
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Martin Corwin wrote:1000 AUR is worth 5 Gé¼. If you void all the AUR balances < 1k AUR and STEAL all that money from your player base, I'm biomassing all my characters never to return.
I'm not going to support a company that's stealing money from their customers. Lol, 1000 AUR are worth in RL exactly nothing, it's a virtual thing owned by CCP. CCP can do with the Aurum what they want, didn't you read the ToS before signing up for EvE? Nothing within this game belongs to you, but is property of CCP.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3522
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Posted - 2017.03.19 11:00:24 -
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Greg Valanti wrote:What will be happening to AUR tokens? Do I need to redeem them before the changes or will they be automatically converted to the equivalent worth of the new PLEX? Sell them on the market, they still sell for more than any conversion will get you.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Lando Cenvax
The Nose Picker Clown Group Elemental Tide
17
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Posted - 2017.03.19 11:36:36 -
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Great idea! Unless you read the very last line...
Q: With smaller PLEX, will I be able to buy less than 30 days of Omega time? A: We currently have no plans regarding smaller game time packages.
Are you guys serious? How stupid is that?
500 PLEX is also a stupid number to convert, at least once you realize sticking with 30 day only packages renders this change ad absurdum. As mentioned above (Post 17) 720 PLEX would be a good number. The conversion from AUR to PLEX is a one time action, so don't give priority to this. No on cares if this is factor 7 (3500->500) or 4,86111 (3500->720). |

Corraidhin Farsaidh
Singularity Expedition Services Singularity Syndicate
2119
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Posted - 2017.03.19 12:02:57 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Martin Corwin wrote:1000 AUR is worth 5 Gé¼. If you void all the AUR balances < 1k AUR and STEAL all that money from your player base, I'm biomassing all my characters never to return.
I'm not going to support a company that's stealing money from their customers. Lol, 1000 AUR are worth in RL exactly nothing, it's a virtual thing owned by CCP. CCP can do with the Aurum what they want, didn't you read the ToS before signing up for EvE? Nothing within this game belongs to you, but is property of CCP.
That depends, in UK law if you bought something from a company they have to deliver it. This would be a very grey area, especiialy if you considered Aurum to be a service
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Krieg Austern
47
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Posted - 2017.03.19 13:15:17 -
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Lando Cenvax wrote:Great idea! Unless you read the very last line...
Q: With smaller PLEX, will I be able to buy less than 30 days of Omega time? A: We currently have no plans regarding smaller game time packages.
Are you guys serious? How stupid is that?
It's not stupid at all. It's avoiding a rash of '1 day omegas' for cynos, hotdroppers and the like.
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Erebus 'TheChin' Sundance
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.19 13:56:49 -
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Just to point out, it does say in the dev blog > https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/plex-changes-on-the-way/
Quote:"Anyone looking to liquidate Aurum for ISK has had ample opportunity to do so, especially since the release of skill extractors
Converting only Aurum balances that exceed 1000 Aurum will lower the total amount converted and decrease the risk of a rapid inflow of PLEX destabilizing the market.
We will run specials in the New Eden Store leading up to the change so that thereGÇÖs good reason to use up excess Aurum" I have 245 AUR, Skill extractor is 1000 AUR, cheapest ship skins are 250 AUR... I feel disinclined to purchase more AUR to bump up a in game currency about to be terminated. One would imagine this is a popular concern.
May I request you make available a variety of empire themed codpieces for our remaining AUR, they should cost coincidently 245 AUR.
I would like a Gallente Themed utility codpiece please.
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Ronnie Rose
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2017.03.19 18:57:46 -
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Alright, after more musing on the PLEX changes here is what I think are motives on why these ideas are being proposed.
1. PLEX Vault - A safer way to transact a high value commodity for new players so they will not suffer the in game criminality of gate camp gankers.
2. PLEX broken up into smaller denominations - Will promote revenue stream for CCP by increased sales of PLEX sold outside of the game (e.g. direct sales of PLEX from CCP to players)
Now, if CCP fixed one thing with EVE their would not be a need for a PLEX Vault, and that is gate camps. Next to large scale corporation wars, which are rare, players have suffered more ship loses at gate camps period. In High SEC ships are lost by perpetrators to the victims and then CONCORD responding to the perps. If gate camps in High SEC were more balanced by, say lock times increases around high sec gates, and or AoE smart bombs are disabled at high sec gates, then people transporting PLEX through High Sec would be safer WITHOUT THE NEED FOR A PLEX VAULT (apply this also to undocking at stations).
But no. Since the idea of a PLEX vault is being proposed to make PLEX transaction safer, this only implies indirectly the problem with gate camps. In other words the proposed change is ignoring the real problem with EVE. Go after the real issue and CCP can make PLEX transaction safer in EVE especially for new players.
So, fix the gate camp problem, and then no is need for a PLEX vault to keep PLEX safe, and gankers will still have a chance to catch a player transporting PLEX in High SEC, just not at gates (or undocking at a station, maybe).
However, if people say leave the gate camp in high sec as is, then I'm for the PLEX vault, which means gankers will lose out through all New Eden, and I would not have any sympathy for those that would cry about that.
As for CCP breaking up the PLEX for smaller denomination, I'm indifferent. It's a chance for CCP to increase their revenue stream, which every game company should be entitled to do under fair conditions to its players.
Finally, as for voiding Aurum balances under 1000 without compensation to players, I'm against that because its too much of a liability against CCP.
Cheers!
We're not here to change the game, we're here to change YOUR game
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2017.03.19 19:13:23 -
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Circumstantial Evidence
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Posted - 2017.03.19 22:07:32 -
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CCP please come up with a new name. Why do I need 500 "Pilot License EXtensions" in order to fly for one month? |
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