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Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.02 22:29:00 - [31] Edited by: Exlegion on 02/05/2007 22:31:36 Originally by: Kate Nexus I just got back and there doesnt seem to be any privateer activity. I used to like their wars all over. It brought back skirmish warfare to the universe instead of capital ship zergs. It wasnt like going to 0.0 where you get zerged, with them I could usually find a fair fight, even in t1 ships. So what happened, why doesn't there seem to be any privateer activity? I can't find any in Jita and systems around it. I wanted to do some skirmish with a new stealth bomber build since they usually had some inties out around there. Did something change? Kate, You can still find Privateers in empire space and you can still request a war with them. They just can't declare war on most (if not all alliances) in empire. Additionally, I can give you low sec locations where I can guarantee you PVP if you like :) I know because every time I set foot on these systems there are PVP'ers looking for me :) Also, don't be afraid to post with your main. For someone that has been zerged in 0.0 and can fly stealth bombers it surprises me a bit that you're unable to find low-number PVP in low sec. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
SFShootme The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.05.02 23:06:00 - [32] carebear patch 2.1.6 came out Tho shall give Life, for Life.
PuncherDavis	Posted - 2007.05.02 23:15:00 - [33] Guess the whole point is who cares its done NEXTT!!!!!! Also I see more PVP players whining now days then carebears....U sure were not seeing a role reversal here.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.03 00:52:00 - [34] starcraft is fun ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.03 01:17:00 - [35] Man, Privs was like a fat kid who ate 7 course meals for a year then got told he had to slim down and act like he had a SMIDGEN of self-restraint. Naturally, they are throwing a tantrum. A hissy-fit as we call it down here.
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 01:37:00 - [36] Originally by: Soporo Man, Privs was like a fat kid who ate 7 course meals for a year then got told he had to slim down and act like he had a SMIDGEN of self-restraint. Naturally, they are throwing a tantrum. A hissy-fit as we call it down here. mmmmmmm Cake SKUNK
Kate Nexus	Posted - 2007.05.03 09:26:00 - [37] Originally by: Le Skunk mmmmmmm Cake SKUNK and beer pie
Mangus Thermopyle Chosen Path FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 09:40:00 - [38] There is plenty of PvP available in 0.0, so if privateers only look for PvP they can go there. The problem for privateer is that they dont like targets that shoot back, which means 0.0 is out of the question.
Per Kopfhurer Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 09:40:00 - [39] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Soporo Man, Privs was like a fat kid who ate 7 course meals for a year then got told he had to slim down and act like he had a SMIDGEN of self-restraint. Naturally, they are throwing a tantrum. A hissy-fit as we call it down here. mmmmmmm Cake SKUNK Chocolate cake, chocolate cake, have ye any nuts?
iinlin Amarr Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 10:02:00 - [40] Originally by: Per Kopfhurer Chocolate cake, chocolate cake, have ye any nuts? Ffs, kladdkaka! The only way to fly.... I mean eat cake.
Kate Nexus	Posted - 2007.05.03 10:38:00 - [41] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle There is plenty of PvP available in 0.0, so if privateers only look for PvP they can go there. The problem for privateer is that they dont like targets that shoot back, which means 0.0 is out of the question. ive been to 0.0, you just get zerged by carriers
Lt Angus Caldari OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.05.03 10:44:00 - [42] Privateers love targets that dont fight back the almost 10,000 losses were all concord im sure, and plenty of pvp in 0.0? I feel sorry for everyone that missed out on the party, you may never experiance what plenty of pvp looks like Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
Johnny Gurkha Villains	Posted - 2007.05.03 11:13:00 - [43] Our corp was a member of Privateers for about a week and my only real memories of being a member were chasing shuttles about and running into Drakes when you undock in a frig... I can't imagine how things are now, maybe Priv's should come to low sec for their pew pew instead
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.05.03 12:01:00 - [44] Edited by: DarkMatter on 03/05/2007 11:59:25 I think the change shows that PA were exploiting the system... For months they defended their exploiting actions, even though they knew they were wrong... This just proves that they and all those who were defending them were wrong, and are nothing but griefing chumps... Just like we all knew they were... It's sad CCP can't do a better job and see this stuff coming, or fix it more quickly instead of allowing asshats to ruin the game for months at a time... But the DEV's are quite dense like that... They have to let griefing continue on for months or even years before they finally come up with a solution... Probably so they can join in the fun for a while... Building the homestead
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.05.03 12:13:00 - [45] The fact that it was changed doesn't mean it was griefing. Nor does it even mean it was broken. It simply means it was not what they wanted in Eve. - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
Drasked North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.03 12:29:00 - [46] Look ma!! im in a Phoenix Alliance thread!!
hedfunk Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 12:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle There is plenty of PvP available in 0.0, so if privateers only look for PvP they can go there. The problem for privateer is that they dont like targets that shoot back, which means 0.0 is out of the question. I'm sure the many dedicated and well known PvP corps, such as Beyond Divinity and Captain Morgan's society joined Privs for targets who don't shoot back, huh?
Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 13:06:00 - [48] And low sec is out of the question why? It wouldn't surprise me if the OP is a Privateer in disguise pushing the "Privateers were about honest even-numbered PVP" rhetoric. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Jessica Lorelei Minmatar Vitae Mecha	Posted - 2007.05.03 13:28:00 - [49] Originally by: Kate Nexus Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle There is plenty of PvP available in 0.0, so if privateers only look for PvP they can go there. The problem for privateer is that they dont like targets that shoot back, which means 0.0 is out of the question. ive been to 0.0, you just get zerged by carriers thats blatantly wrong i lived in 00 for about 1 year, i never got zerged by anything let alone carriers. infact i barely saw another soul. -NEVER CONFUSE OPINNION WITH FACT-
RU Sirius Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 18:13:00 - [50] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 02/05/2007 19:06:34 Privateers made safe space into unsafe space and that wasnt appreciated by most. CCP changed the war dec fees and now empire is like disney again, and people can go back to their mindless grinds... Privateers showed how 0.0 would be if it didnt have gate camps, bubbles etc. They logged in for a few hours of casual ganking of everyone they saw fit (in empire). It wasnt honorable and they become hated by a lot of people because they picked on the people who had their pvp flag off. Anyway, I kind of liked it, but I know its not a popular opinion around here. What utter *******s. All PA have done since the wardec nerf is camp the Vale exit/entrance to empire. All they did before it was empire gank, we never saw them in 0.0 until recently.
Aille Pluthrak Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 18:22:00 - [51] Originally by: DarkMatter For months they defended their exploiting actions, even though they knew they were wrong... This just proves that they and all those who were defending them were wrong, and are nothing but griefing chumps... Yeah, I'm a griefer. But I am never wrong when it comes to what I do in this game. I am still going to keep doing it. ---------------------- Boom goes the ship! Squish goes the pilot!
Rover Vitesse Gallente FinFleet	Posted - 2007.05.03 18:35:00 - [52] Originally by: Kate Nexus Meh. I liked it. No cap ships or gatecamps (ok maybe some but no chokepoints). It was some really fun PVP. Empire turned from a boring grind to an exciting lively place fast. I finally had a use for my combat ships. I cant do 0.0 because the cap ship game is way over my head (im not in bob), gate camping is boring, and fleet war is so laggy and lacking any kind of viable tactics/skills, so this is was the only PVP I could really do and it was so fun! I wish I could still fight the privateers now but all their war decs are gone Simply declare war on Privateers yourself if you really wish you could still fight....but wait a minute! You've been in Caldari Provisions for 8 months and 17 days!
MrTripps Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.03 19:12:00 - [53] Originally by: RU Sirius What utter *****s. All PA have done since the wardec nerf is camp the Vale exit/entrance to empire. All they did before it was empire gank, we never saw them in 0.0 until recently. Your time line is a bit off. We did the 0.0 empire building before** the high sec ganking. Who do you think built that cozy outpost in C-F? "Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim." - Bertrand Russell
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.03 19:22:00 - [54] Originally by: Kate Nexus Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle There is plenty of PvP available in 0.0, so if privateers only look for PvP they can go there. The problem for privateer is that they dont like targets that shoot back, which means 0.0 is out of the question. ive been to 0.0, you just get zerged by carriers Depends on who you get zerged by. The Goonies swarmed me in Cormorants. <3 Destroyers. Nice to see'em in action like that. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.05.03 19:37:00 - [55] People need to stop referring to Privateer's as PA. Just because you don't remember Phoenix Alliance doesn't mean that the rest of us don't. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Severra Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.03 19:48:00 - [56] Originally by: Vactet PA Showed what could be done with a little imagination and some money. They also broke many a glass house of those who are too afraid to go out of empire. And dont try to argue it isnt fear. It definately aint money since its better in lowsec/nosec. The folks who stick 100% to empire had this nice little glass house gaurding their glass idea of being totally safe. Point is. All this anti PA stuff is annoying because in the grand scheme of things, they performed a much needed service. They got people's heads out of the sand for once, a feat that I dont think will be seen for a while to come again. Erm. Yeah. This is ironic, because in all my travels, 100% of the Privateers I've seen have been in empire. Yes, throwing a wrench in the works of alliances thinking they're untouchable is funny. No, propagandizing and self-aggrandizing yourselves to make it seem daring and how ya 'took it to the carebears' in some meaningful crusade is not funny, nor true. It's like a large scale version of can-flipping. "oh, that's neat," and then pay it no further attention. If you'd like to think, "omg i r so leet, ccp changed0rz ze game," yes, they changed it because PA was lagging up empire gates and Jita 4-4. Congrats, you were mosquitos. Now your swamps have been effectively sprayed. Now go eat a cookie or something. TOOKURSTUFF For all your (ore) thieving needs.
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 20:31:00 - [57] I love the smell of ganked hauler in the morning.
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.03 20:44:00 - [58] Originally by: Hllaxiu People need to stop referring to Privateer's as PA. Just because you don't remember Phoenix Alliance doesn't mean that the rest of us don't. PAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPA Not that I'm their biggest fan, but I am that kind of bastard. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 21:17:00 - [59] Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/05/2007 21:13:27 Originally by: Severra Originally by: Vactet PA Showed what could be done with a little imagination and some money. They also broke many a glass house of those who are too afraid to go out of empire. And dont try to argue it isnt fear. It definately aint money since its better in lowsec/nosec. The folks who stick 100% to empire had this nice little glass house gaurding their glass idea of being totally safe. Point is. All this anti PA stuff is annoying because in the grand scheme of things, they performed a much needed service. They got people's heads out of the sand for once, a feat that I dont think will be seen for a while to come again. Erm. Yeah. This is ironic, because in all my travels, 100% of the Privateers I've seen have been in empire. Yes, throwing a wrench in the works of alliances thinking they're untouchable is funny. No, propagandizing and self-aggrandizing yourselves to make it seem daring and how ya 'took it to the carebears' in some meaningful crusade is not funny, nor true. It's like a large scale version of can-flipping. "oh, that's neat," and then pay it no further attention. If you'd like to think, "omg i r so leet, ccp changed0rz ze game," yes, they changed it because PA was lagging up empire gates and Jita 4-4. Congrats, you were mosquitos. Now your swamps have been effectively sprayed. Now go eat a cookie or something. Strange interpretation. From an alt of course. LOL I wondered waht was causing lag in the game - It was us I now know. Silly Privateers We were sprayed by a change in a couple of lines of code by someone at CCP watching his wallet and throwing his ethics out the window No alliance managed to spray us - some came quite close to having an effect. The anti privateer intel channels multiplied and becamn inefective. The anti privateer alliance never sprung up. The loot thieves though horribly annoying, were welcome in that they were an ingame manifestation of resistance. Enemy Alliance blobs were evaded and occasionaly smashed. I was looking forward to the end of this 'great' war and see if the extra combat pilots freed up could bring us down. But no - a bunch of whiners bent CCPs ear so hard - it pulled them down to their level. But anyhows its done now - tbh I dont know why im still talking about it - i cant resist responding to the same things ive been respnding to for 6 months i guess. We can say what we like: we were undefeated, and changed the game, and ran a crusade or whatever. By now it falls on either supportive or unfrienldy ears. I think people have made up their minds by now. What is true though - i hear it time and time again - people in our alliance saying it was the one of the best times they have ever had in the game. The most fun. And you missed it. SKUNK
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.05.03 21:31:00 - [60] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 02/05/2007 19:06:34 Privateers made safe space into unsafe space and that wasnt appreciated by most. CCP changed the war dec fees and now empire is like disney again, and people can go back to their mindless grinds... Privateers showed how 0.0 would be if it didnt have gate camps, bubbles etc. They logged in for a few hours of casual ganking of everyone they saw fit (in empire). It wasnt honorable and they become hated by a lot of people because they picked on the people who had their pvp flag off. Anyway, I kind of liked it, but I know its not a popular opinion around here. No gate camps? LOOOL I never foudn aprivateer doing anythign else than gate camping.... If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough

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