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Exlegion New Light KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.03 21:46:00 - [61] Edited by: Exlegion on 03/05/2007 21:44:51 Edited by: Exlegion on 03/05/2007 21:43:44 Originally by: Le Skunk But no - a bunch of whiners bent CCPs ear so hard - it pulled them down to their level. I take it you're just referring about the non-Privateer whiners here? Because if you are you've just cut about half of the whining that goes on in the forums. Let me know if you'd like me to dig some of the latest ones up. I have a few minutes to kill. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Badhands Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.03 22:24:00 - [62] Originally by: JADE DRAG0NESS Originally by: Plasticine Perfection Originally by: Sexy Schoolgirl PA only succeded in showing how easy the manipulation of game mechanics can be. I praise CCP for taking strides to shut down these lame tactics that have unrealistic counters. Next steps... the afk cloaker and the nano weeny. PA showed how easily CCP bend over and placacte those who whine the loudest. Next steps, well, whatever the forum whiners decide they want to throw their toys out of the pram about next. Ahh another PA alt. You people are so ignorant... I support the Privateers 100%. I've never BEEN a Privateer. I've never had a character in the Privateers... god forbid someone just hates the idea of CCP caving to a bunch of fat gits (foolish or contemptible persons). .
Ebedar Gallente Primary Intelligence	Posted - 2007.05.03 22:24:00 - [63] Some Privateers I respect, others I don't. Captain Morgan Society I do. Le Skunk I do. The ones I don't I won't bother to mention. But to you all I say the same thing: Do what you want 'cos a pirate is free - you are a pirate! It was a fun ride while it lasted, even if I didn't take part in it overtly. I fully expect the price of salvage components to go up now there are fewer wrecks about ;) Drone Calculator
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.03 23:10:00 - [64] Originally by: Le Skunk Strange interpretation. From an alt of course. LOL I wondered waht was causing lag in the game - It was us I now know. Silly Privateers We were sprayed by a change in a couple of lines of code by someone at CCP watching his wallet and throwing his ethics out the window No alliance managed to spray us - some came quite close to having an effect. The anti privateer intel channels multiplied and becamn inefective. The anti privateer alliance never sprung up. The loot thieves though horribly annoying, were welcome in that they were an ingame manifestation of resistance. Enemy Alliance blobs were evaded and occasionaly smashed. I was looking forward to the end of this 'great' war and see if the extra combat pilots freed up could bring us down. But no - a bunch of whiners bent CCPs ear so hard - it pulled them down to their level. But anyhows its done now - tbh I dont know why im still talking about it - i cant resist responding to the same things ive been respnding to for 6 months i guess. We can say what we like: we were undefeated, and changed the game, and ran a crusade or whatever. By now it falls on either supportive or unfrienldy ears. I think people have made up their minds by now. What is true though - i hear it time and time again - people in our alliance saying it was the one of the best times they have ever had in the game. The most fun. And you missed it. SKUNK Gads, would you like some cheese with that? Seriously Le Skunk, up until know I have respected what you have said and your actions even if I didn't agree with them. Don't drop to the same level as the other PRVTR whiners about being nerfed, you KNEW it was comming. Once the Privateers started taking individual contracts instead of their sworn enemies and started doing their 149 WarDec "sprees" and claiming to be preparing to do more it was obvious that your actions didn't match what CCP intended for the WarDec system to mean. I wish I could have the original TS or EvEmail logs when the Privateers was being formed, I'm sure the question came up several times as to whether CCP would allow this play style or not. <-----------> Keiron: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=427556&page=2 PvE and/or PvP is not something that appeals to the entire player base
Sarf Asgard Industries	Posted - 2007.05.03 23:15:00 - [65] I would like to see a fight club flag: Level 0 - Just like empire space now. Level 1 - Anyone marked lv 1 or above can attack you, the combat ends when you hit 50% structure. Your ship will not explode, and all harmful effects come off you. A message is broadcast to all in system that XXX has defeated YYY in a fight club match. Level 2 - Your ship can be destroyed but you can't be poded. Level 3 - Full PvP combat, you can be podded. Level 4 - Full PvP combat, no insurance payout on ship loss. By default everyone is set to lv 0, and you can only attack someone that is set to lv 1 or higher, They type of combat that is allowed is the lowest of the the peoples fight club level. You are prevented from changing your fight club level outside of a station. This would allow for people that want unlimited PvP and those that don't or only want limited. - Sarf Director of Freighter construction. Miner of small balls of dirt.
Severra Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.04 00:31:00 - [66] Originally by: Le Skunk Strange interpretation. From an alt of course. LOL I wondered waht was causing lag in the game - It was us I now know. Silly Privateers We were sprayed by a change in a couple of lines of code by someone at CCP watching his wallet and throwing his ethics out the window No alliance managed to spray us - some came quite close to having an effect. The anti privateer intel channels multiplied and becamn inefective. The anti privateer alliance never sprung up. The loot thieves though horribly annoying, were welcome in that they were an ingame manifestation of resistance. Enemy Alliance blobs were evaded and occasionaly smashed. I was looking forward to the end of this 'great' war and see if the extra combat pilots freed up could bring us down. But no - a bunch of whiners bent CCPs ear so hard - it pulled them down to their level. But anyhows its done now - tbh I dont know why im still talking about it - i cant resist responding to the same things ive been respnding to for 6 months i guess. We can say what we like: we were undefeated, and changed the game, and ran a crusade or whatever. By now it falls on either supportive or unfrienldy ears. I think people have made up their minds by now. What is true though - i hear it time and time again - people in our alliance saying it was the one of the best times they have ever had in the game. The most fun. And you missed it. SKUNK Alt? You're an idiot. I couldn't possibly be an ore thief that would prefer not to get war decced. Nahhh... Nobody came after you because you were not worth their time. You're right, though. I missed all the sitting on gates, bored out of my skull. Oh well. TOOKURSTUFF For all your (ore) thieving needs.
Flaming Lemming	Posted - 2007.05.04 00:46:00 - [67] Originally by: Sarf I would like to see a fight club flag: Level 0 - Just like empire space now. Level 1 - Anyone marked lv 1 or above can attack you, the combat ends when you hit 50% structure. Your ship will not explode, and all harmful effects come off you. A message is broadcast to all in system that XXX has defeated YYY in a fight club match. Level 2 - Your ship can be destroyed but you can't be poded. Level 3 - Full PvP combat, you can be podded. Level 4 - Full PvP combat, no insurance payout on ship loss. By default everyone is set to lv 0, and you can only attack someone that is set to lv 1 or higher, They type of combat that is allowed is the lowest of the the peoples fight club level. You are prevented from changing your fight club level outside of a station. This would allow for people that want unlimited PvP and those that don't or only want limited. I hope you have a flame-retardant suit on, because this could get nasty. I'm an empire-hugging, mission-whoring carebear, and I think that idea sucks. High-sec is designed to be safer, NOT safe! During the Great Privateers War, I ws decced, so I adapted..no missions out-of-system unless I had friendy intel saying it was safe to fly...Only flew level 4 missions if no wartargets in system...did level 3's otherwise. The EvE-universe in a cold and harsh place. You don't have to like it, but you damn well should accept it. I'm just an Alt....but my main doesn't have a sig either. there's no such thing as bad press
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.04 00:51:00 - [68] Edited by: Le Skunk on 04/05/2007 00:50:44 Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Originally by: Le Skunk Strange interpretation. From an alt of course. LOL I wondered waht was causing lag in the game - It was us I now know. Silly Privateers We were sprayed by a change in a couple of lines of code by someone at CCP watching his wallet and throwing his ethics out the window No alliance managed to spray us - some came quite close to having an effect. The anti privateer intel channels multiplied and becamn inefective. The anti privateer alliance never sprung up. The loot thieves though horribly annoying, were welcome in that they were an ingame manifestation of resistance. Enemy Alliance blobs were evaded and occasionaly smashed. I was looking forward to the end of this 'great' war and see if the extra combat pilots freed up could bring us down. But no - a bunch of whiners bent CCPs ear so hard - it pulled them down to their level. But anyhows its done now - tbh I dont know why im still talking about it - i cant resist responding to the same things ive been respnding to for 6 months i guess. We can say what we like: we were undefeated, and changed the game, and ran a crusade or whatever. By now it falls on either supportive or unfrienldy ears. I think people have made up their minds by now. What is true though - i hear it time and time again - people in our alliance saying it was the one of the best times they have ever had in the game. The most fun. And you missed it. SKUNK Gads, would you like some cheese with that? Seriously Le Skunk, up until know I have respected what you have said and your actions even if I didn't agree with them. Don't drop to the same level as the other PRVTR whiners about being nerfed, you KNEW it was comming. Once the Privateers started taking individual contracts instead of their sworn enemies and started doing their 149 WarDec "sprees" and claiming to be preparing to do more it was obvious that your actions didn't match what CCP intended for the WarDec system to mean. I wish I could have the original TS or EvEmail logs when the Privateers was being formed, I'm sure the question came up several times as to whether CCP would allow this play style or not. Edam? Gouder? Forgive me a slight cheesy tone - I keep trying to stick in some melodramatic soliloquay (spelling?) before vamooshing away from the boards. I tire a little of repeating the same things over and over and as i said in my tearjerker "We can say what we like... By now it falls on either supportive or unfrienldy ears. I think people have made up their minds by now." So no need to regurgiate. There was no TS or Evemail logs as far as I am aware. I believe our founder was told ' you cant do nothing about it' by some evil alliance blowhards - and so he went away, thought about it, decided ther was soemthing he could do - and did it. Whilst there was always the knowledge that CCP had shown in the past they listen to the relative few on the forums depending on how many time the can type the same thing per hour - I can honeslty say, the 6 months it took them to do anything about it gave hope they were willing to back up their grandious claims of 'freedom' in the game. Anyhows - Im a betrayed man... Spurned by CCP. Im off to smoke a big fat cigar, on a swing in the middle of a misty park, the dew sparking in the moonlight - a small cat - my only companion. My head low.... A single tear.... rolling down my cheek. "why ccp....... why did you do it...... You Maniacs! You blew it up. YOU BLEW IT ALL TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL" SKUNK
Sarf Asgard Industries	Posted - 2007.05.04 00:54:00 - [69] Note I said LV 0 is just like empire space now. If you set your fight club setting higher, it makes empire space less safe. It gives people that like the current safer empires space that security, and those that want to go all out in 100% PvP that option. It also allows for betting the farm, so to speak, you can chose to fight to the obvious winner, or go all out and risk it all, no insurance payout. If you win, you win, if you lose you are out the ship, and the isk. I think it would add more PvP to empire space. - Sarf Director of Freighter construction. Miner of small balls of dirt.
MrTripps Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.04 00:56:00 - [70] Originally by: Sarf I would like to see a fight club flag: That isn't a bad idea at all. I've been on both sides of PRVT. Fighting them made me a better player over all by forcing me to learn basic operational security. It put actual risk in the risk vs. reward equation. Fighting with PRVT changed the way I play the game. It made me realize that losing a ship in a good fight was just as much fun as getting the kill. On the negative side it does make the advantage of vets who have ISK to blow millions on an hour of fun and those who are still trying to get into their first battleship bigger then it already is. I can understand why it was changed. "Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim." - Bertrand Russell
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.05.04 06:15:00 - [71] Originally by: Le Skunk Anyhows - Im a betrayed man... Spurned by CCP. Im off to smoke a big fat cigar, on a swing in the middle of a misty park, the dew sparking in the moonlight - a small cat - my only companion. My head low.... A single tear.... rolling down my cheek. SKUNK That almost brought a tear to my eye, ALMOST A classy whine full of character is always appreciated, much better <-----------> Keiron: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=427556&page=2 PvE and/or PvP is not something that appeals to the entire player base
Lord DeFault Minmatar Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.05.04 06:34:00 - [72] Die, Die and be forgotten. The PrePatch Day song
djenghis jan Amarr Debiloff's Vanguard	Posted - 2007.05.04 08:12:00 - [73] Ok, well its over. Although i liked it towards the end when there were even solo skirmishers instead of the usual station gank tactics, I am glad its over. So looking back at it i must say that the impact was rather large. So maybe what we need is a more gradual smear in the security reagions with lots of low sec and a lesser sec hit for attackers. As it is now its uber-concord in high sec and (tankable) gate centries in 0.4 and below. Maybe we need a situation where we have concord like it is now in 1.0 and in 0.6-0.5 only a few ships and in 0.4 and below a only a few cruisers. The insurance contract system could then be changed into a mafia style protection system where concord ships warp in and assist but are not unbeatable. If you pay more insurance the concord response is stiffer. Of course this is just a drone bay expander but it could have a positive effect. This would mean the attacker needs to take a risk, the miner can still solo mine and have a chance. Of course it would mix pvp and pve and could lead to creative thinking and so on, but just to get the discussion going.
SFShootme The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.05.04 16:08:00 - [74] You all know it's true Tho shall give Life, for Life.
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.05.04 16:30:00 - [75] I guess if Skunk said CCP tossed their ethics out the window.. it's true.... Actually.. I think Skunk/Privateers were trying to impose their game style on CCP/Eve/Everyone Else and and now they have to adapt to the Game as the Game just adapted to them. (Yes.. all props given to your style/ideas/whatever) If you want PvP all the time for "Zero Reasons", then Mutual War Dec other corps/alliances and have fun. This doesn't have to change much at all. Just some fewer targets... I guess that is something to concerned about for that style of play, but not much really. If you want to war dec someone for a reason, then do it.. spend the ISK and FEEL the risk involved in your corp/Alliance having to strain to maintain a war.... like... everyone else. I enjoyed the few Empire Wars I was involved in, but to do it ALL the time was not what I signed up for Eve for. I wanted to have fun.. literally... "working" in a fictional environment that was expansive and complicated. "Working" includes fighting wars, Pirates, mining, hauling, trading, military and whatever else there is. This is what I think a LOT of players signed up for. No Empire is not SAFE, but to fight there, a corp/Alliance must feel the strain of multiple wars on their wallets in order to get the full experience of warfare. Enjoy Aind See what you can do with Paintbrush?
Portios Smith DNR Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.04 17:16:00 - [76] Originally by: Sarf I would like to see a fight club flag: Level 0 - Just like empire space now. Level 1 - Anyone marked lv 1 or above can attack you, the combat ends when you hit 50% structure. Your ship will not explode, and all harmful effects come off you. A message is broadcast to all in system that XXX has defeated YYY in a fight club match. Level 2 - Your ship can be destroyed but you can't be poded. Level 3 - Full PvP combat, you can be podded. Level 4 - Full PvP combat, no insurance payout on ship loss. By default everyone is set to lv 0, and you can only attack someone that is set to lv 1 or higher, They type of combat that is allowed is the lowest of the the peoples fight club level. You are prevented from changing your fight club level outside of a station. This would allow for people that want unlimited PvP and those that don't or only want limited. Like old Evil Thug used to say... DIE!!! This is king of the ghay. never seen a post worst than it, and I've seen pretty bad ones before but this one takes the cake. You dude suck hard. The veld must be rotting your brain. This sig was made for hijack - Timmeh I am getting tha nerf bat and the mods wont stay out of my sig :(
GimmeeThat	Posted - 2007.05.04 17:30:00 - [77]

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