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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.04 10:43:00 -
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My Dominix(when I fit for pvp)
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DarkFenix
Caldari
Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2007.05.04 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: DarkFenix on 04/05/2007 10:44:42
Edited by: DarkFenix on 04/05/2007 10:44:08
 Originally by: Hadwin
No ship should be as invincible as the Vagabond currently is. Now, I am well aware of the fact that a Curse can NOS it into submission, or a Huginn can web it from a great distance... but what can Caldari or Gallente do to it?
I've got the answer... f*** all! That's what!
Nerf this ship ASAP.
Hadders
What can Caldari and Gallente do? They can train for another race's ships. You're not limited to flying one race fyi. I mean, let's take the Curse for example. How many race specific skills does it use? One. Amarr Cruiser. It does damage with drones - which you should have trained anyway. It armour tanks - which the Gallente do anyway and isn't much training for Caldari. And it uses nos - which you should have trained anyway. So, with learning skill to a decent level (which you should have trained anyway), that's all of 3 weeks training.
Oh and on topic: A better question to ask is "Can ships of equivalent value take down ship 'x'?" A good measure of what counters what, is the ability to take down an expensive ship, using cheaper ships.
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Zaphod Jones
Minmatar
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.04 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hadwin
HEY CCP!!!
... but what can Caldari or Gallente do to it?
I've got the answer... f*** all! That's what!
Nerf this ship ASAP.
Hadders
"... what can Caldari or Gallente do to it"
they can adapt
if they cant adapt they die
( i didnt want to quote evolution corp motto - even if true)
zomg i'm caldari, my mission whoring raven cant kill everyship in game - oh noes the sky is falling down
Celtic Anarchy is recruiting
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Shining Shadow
Business Associates
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Posted - 2007.05.04 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zaphod Jones
Originally by: Hadwin
HEY CCP!!!
... but what can Caldari or Gallente do to it?
I've got the answer... f*** all! That's what!
Nerf this ship ASAP.
Hadders
"... what can Caldari or Gallente do to it"
they can adapt
if they cant adapt they die
( i didnt want to quote evolution corp motto - even if true)
zomg i'm caldari, my mission whoring raven cant kill everyship in game - oh noes the sky is falling down
Get 2x 90% webs on a vaga and it's dead if you fly any half decent pvp ship. If the Vaga pilot is clever enough to stay out of web range then it's another matter.
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Emily Emmerson
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Posted - 2007.12.03 23:46:00 -
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one hac shouldn't need 2 ships to take down 
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.12.03 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hadwin
No ship should be as invincible as the Vagabond currently is. Now, I am well aware of the fact that a Curse can NOS it into submission, or a Huginn can web it from a great distance... but what can Caldari or Gallente do to it?
1.a Actually Drakes, Ravens, and Cerbs, given that they are not tanked stupidly, can positively slaughter Vagabonds while they are not MWDing (read: while they are shooting you) and are either forced to run or die. If a Vaga gets webbed by any of these ships it's toast.
1.b Blasterboats can MWD into the orbits of Vaga pilots who use manual orbit and easily web them.
1.c Anybody can use damps, ECM, or (especially) tracking disruptors to totally nullify a Vagabond. Any battleship pilot can fit heavy neuts and completely ruin things for it.
2. Not every ship should be easily counterable by at least four other ships from the separate races. Just because a fast, ranged ship like the Vagabond has an obvious advantage against the FOTM Gallente doesn't mean it should be nerfed.
Finally if you want the true "no ship should be as invincible..." it's the nano-ishtar, which often deals three or four times as much damage at orbit range as the Vagabond while being a little slower at best.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.12.04 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hadwin
HEY CCP!!!
VAGABOND!!
Two words...
FIX
IT
FFS
No ship should be as invincible as the Vagabond currently is. Now, I am well aware of the fact that a Curse can NOS it into submission, or a Huginn can web it from a great distance... but what can Caldari or Gallente do to it?
I've got the answer... f*** all! That's what!
Nerf this ship ASAP.
Hadders
team work.... wtf ccp sometimes i want to solopwn everything!!!!!!!!
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VaderDSL
Caldari
Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2007.12.04 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Claska
on the test server i almost beat a Vulture with my mrmidon but had T1 ogers, if i had T2 ogers he would have died, i can use T2 ogers on TQ though :D
makes no difference T1 to T2 Ogres on 93% thermal resistance 
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.12.04 00:20:00 -
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A capital ship should take more than just one other ship to take down 
Two "properly" fit capitals fighting usually means a stand-off.
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Oregon sinful
The Ankou
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.12.04 02:18:00 -
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I'm not a vaga Pilot. I'm a gallente pilot.
1 module, (very easy to skill for) is all you have to have fit to kill a vaga, that's a web.
I've killed vaga's in a Lachesis, Arazu, Domi, Megat, Brutix, Myrmidon, even in a Vexor solo ffs.
I killed them with a web and an mwd.
Don't tell me they're overpowered because they have escape ability and you can't catch him.
I can't fly a single minmatard ship, and I say meh, keep 'em coming guys, just another ship to kill.
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Greebus
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:02:00 -
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LOL @ vagabonds vs Amarr recons
My auto cannons don't use cap and I don't fit to rep armour or shield thus making my cap useless - bring it on
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Raneru
Darwin With Attitude
oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:07:00 -
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Megathrons can take down vagabonds.
Come to think of it, most ships at Hac level or above should be able to do it. It all depends on pilot skill.
There is no "ship x cant take down ship y", it all depends on circumstance. I've seen ceptors and AF take out BS solo.
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N1fty
Amarr
Galactic Shipyards Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Greebus
LOL @ vagabonds vs Amarr recons
My auto cannons don't use cap and I don't fit to rep armour or shield thus making my cap useless - bring it on
Yes but try staying out of scram / web range without being able to activate your MWD.
Also tracking disruption will turn your capless guns into lols. The Curse was built to take out Minnies; racial enemy and all that.
Best a vaga can do against a Curse is GTFO. Which isn't guaranteed to happen with an overheated T2 scram or faction.
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ISD Valorem
Amarr
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:11:00 -
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please do not bump old threads.
*click*
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realbadman
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:23:00 -
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I am deeply saddened by the lack of intelligent people here.
There are a lot of ships i can tank forever in my shuttle
OMG!!!1!*****ZZZ!1 Nerf teh Shuttlez!
whiny crybabies because you can't kill a vaga. the only trick a vaga has is that it can run away.
btw, run away!=win fight
vaga's are great at weeding out the weak and the ignorant.
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