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Dungheap
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 19:21:00 -
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after downtime today, sovereignty of the zs-2lt system in eastern feyth changed from Intrepid Crossing to Digital Renegades.
five days ago, dfc corp. of digital renegades, aided by a bob fleet, laid seige to the system. freighters were jumped bridged in to a single existing bob pos, and large towers were spammed.
this morning dfc began attacking the station with a small number of battleships and fighter support from two carriers.
as intrepid crossing pilots began logging in, numbers in system evened up and the attack was repelled. stalemate ensued, with both sides warping in and out taking minimal losses.
dfc cyno'd in 5 more carriers, bringing their number to 7 in system. about ten RISE pilots also entered the system, giving alliance forces a slight edge in numbers. intrepid crossing responded by cyno'ing in carriers from the neighboring db1-r4 system, bringing cap ship numbers about even.
a concerted attack on the station was responded to by intrepid crossing jumping their carriers and support ships to the station, engaging the mixed bs, support, and fighters of dfc and rise.
the battle was brought to an abrupt halt, as bob cyno'd in two motherships and approximately 6 carriers directly onto the station grid. intrepid crossing forces were driven off with losses including one nidhoggur carrier.
the station fell to bob, who promptly handed it over to digital renegades.
2007.05.04 17:08
Solar System: ZS-2LT
Conquered Corporation: Dragon's Rage
Conquering Corporation: Reikoku
a brief and uncharacteristic smackfest ensued, as Dragon's Rage pilots expressed frustration at the loss of the station they built, and at dfc's inability to take the station without bob support. dfc pilots responded to this attack on their piloting skills, citing an edge in killboard stats throughout the last week's fighting.
in today's action, dfc's killboard shows about 17 kills, including 3 bs's and the nid. ic board tallies 10 kills, 5 of them bs's. both sides lost numerous fighters as well.
this is my account only of the happenings, numbers and point-of view may differ.
gf, dfc. and rise, as ever.
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Elliot Reid
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.05.04 19:35:00 -
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That's a fair summary of events and the smack from all who partook was completely unnecessary and should be kept to WoW where it belongs.
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Aelena Thraant
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.04 19:36:00 -
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Wait a minute... I thought BoB was at a stalemate downsouth and/or loosing ground... hrm...
Well..
Good job BoB and friends... I guess you are second guessing switching sides now....
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Morris Falter
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.04 19:49:00 -
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I take my hat off to Intrepid, and I believe a few of my corp mates will too. Quality act, and that they got blobbed into submission by the predictable and bloodless bob cap zerg, in no way reflects their ability or determination.
(just imo ;))
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 19:57:00 -
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Wait a minute... I thought BoB was at a stalemate downsouth and/or loosing ground... hrm...
Good job BoB and friends... I guess you are second guessing switching sides now....
The most interesting thing about the ZS and DB1 situation is that it moved to mass POS spamming. It certainly threw us for a loop but we have adapted and strive to fight on.
Let me preface my next comments with the fact they are my own opinion and I do not speak for AWE or IRC as member of HC.
Now, as far as second guessing? Not in the least. Dragons Rage and AWE corporation built the two stations in ZS and DB1. As the ASCN war wound down we were in a "fight to the end" mode and as such left all of our assets in the area. The last days of the war happened very fast with most of ASCN taking deals to leave the area or having left the area earier.
An offer was made to keep our stations and as a result our rather large amount of assets, for a price in the billions of ISK per month. We essentially had a gun to our heads if we wanted to keep our assets. Our HC made the right call, pay the blood money until we can get ourselves organized enough to re-assert our sovereignty and stop paying the blood money. Our deal was simply to hand over ISK for living in our personally built stations, it never included a pledge of loyalty or some agreement that we would be part of "the BOB empire".
As anyone who has had a conquering enemy move in understands, when the opportunity to free yourselves shows up, you take it. We took ours. We knew BOB would come. There is no regret, none, regardless of how things turn out. We will not live as renters, slaves or meat shields. We have been fighting and will continue to fight to the last ship, POS and ISK. Win, lose or draw, IRC to a member understands that in EVE there are real consequences to choices and we fully accept them. It is what makes EVE great.
This weekend should prove to be interesting, good luck to all involved. 
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Attak
Trioptimum
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:04:00 -
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That fight sounds pretty grate. But this is a little grater.
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Commander Solo
Caldari
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:12:00 -
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I think everyone can agree that it was a good fight and everyone had a laugh. You brought it and respect for that.
The smack in local was unfortunate, but I can understand your frustration in being sieged by an alliance half your size, while being incapable of removing us from your space.
I just hope that in our future engagements you are able to forget your frustrations and keep the smack to a minimum.
See you in space.
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Queen News
Gallente
Queen News Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:19:00 -
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So what your saying is BoB and Friends take even more stations. Where is this great train at.
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Farham on 04/05/2007 20:17:03
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but I can understand your frustration in being sieged by an alliance half your size,
I really don't mean to sound disrespectful but lets be honest, you aren't the issue in our current situation and you know it. Our hands are mostly tied knowing the BOB is ready to jump in Motherships, Dreds and Titan support on a moments notice. This drastically changes our options in how we fight with you all.
The station take this morning sums up exactly what I am referring to.
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SuneRai
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:21:00 -
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woah there a second comander solo. Please, keep the 'hidden' smack out of this as well. You can't in one statement say someone needs not to smack, and then toss in there a little jab of your own.
Fights have been fun and well played on both sides, however your statement of "an alliance half your size" isn't exactly true. On the whole yes you alliance might be smaller, however look at the fights. BOB and RISE have both supported in most battles in which there has been a decisive victory. With those two backing you when you get your backs pressed against the wall, you easily outnumber what we can throw onto the field. However we take this in stride and do what we can do. Those who smacked talked in local should fracking know better and just keep their mouths shut.
The battle is far from over, and no. The alliance has no regrets in taking the course of action that we did.
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Rancid Beef
Shadow Gypsies
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Rancid Beef on 04/05/2007 20:21:30
Bob Cap Zerg?
According to our killboard there were 7 cap ships involved, 6 of them carriers and 1 mothership.
Only the mother and one of the carriers belonged to BoB. 3 were RISE caps and 2 were DR caps. The entire rest of the support fleet was RISE and DR, not one BoB.
This is how the Alliance operates though, we work together. While a member of the "Coalition" was actually losing it's home space, the rest of the southern Coalition made sure they ran the 10/10 plex in GHZ a mere 12 jumps away though ! \o/ W3wt phAt l00tz!
We are enemies granted, but I do respect Intrepid Crossing. That is why I find it upsetting that why they are literally fighting tooth and nail versus the Alliance, the so called Coalition just left them out to dry.
But by all means please keep trying to remove RISE from Feyth, maybe one day the Coalition will see the light. We contracted with BoB to move here. We MOVED here to SHOOT you. We moved our entire alliance 60+ jumps to shoot you. The more you come into Feyth for us to shoot you, the happier we are.
"These Coalition we wasted here today are the finest human beings we will ever know. After we rotate back to the world, we're gonna miss hot having anyone around that's worth shooting."
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:25:00 -
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Many of the BoB pets are real brave with big brother standing behind them.
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Blitz'Krieg
Caldari
SkyMarshal Logistics
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:26:00 -
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To me this is the one reason why i think BoB should be stopped.
Tbh i like BoB and respect their skills but the sweepingaway of built up assets by "conquer and rent" tactics can make this game go nowhere for me.
When smaller alliances are bullied out of existance simply for a profit regardless of anything else i simply dont like it. It doesn't promote a healthy approach to the game because why would you work and slave away in order to build something that is going to be taken away so easy.
Once again i will state my firm belief that capital ships will ruin the game.
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Rancid Beef
Shadow Gypsies
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:26:00 -
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I'm sure you know were RIT is Natmav.
"A friend of death, a brother of luck, and a s.o.b." |
Aelena Thraant
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Farham
Quote:
Wait a minute... I thought BoB was at a stalemate downsouth and/or loosing ground... hrm...
Good job BoB and friends... I guess you are second guessing switching sides now....
The most interesting thing about the ZS and DB1 situation is that it moved to mass POS spamming. It certainly threw us for a loop but we have adapted and strive to fight on.
Let me preface my next comments with the fact they are my own opinion and I do not speak for AWE or IRC as member of HC.
Now, as far as second guessing? Not in the least. Dragons Rage and AWE corporation built the two stations in ZS and DB1. As the ASCN war wound down we were in a "fight to the end" mode and as such left all of our assets in the area. The last days of the war happened very fast with most of ASCN taking deals to leave the area or having left the area earier.
An offer was made to keep our stations and as a result our rather large amount of assets, for a price in the billions of ISK per month. We essentially had a gun to our heads if we wanted to keep our assets. Our HC made the right call, pay the blood money until we can get ourselves organized enough to re-assert our sovereignty and stop paying the blood money. Our deal was simply to hand over ISK for living in our personally built stations, it never included a pledge of loyalty or some agreement that we would be part of "the BOB empire".
As anyone who has had a conquering enemy move in understands, when the opportunity to free yourselves shows up, you take it. We took ours. We knew BOB would come. There is no regret, none, regardless of how things turn out. We will not live as renters, slaves or meat shields. We have been fighting and will continue to fight to the last ship, POS and ISK. Win, lose or draw, IRC to a member understands that in EVE there are real consequences to choices and we fully accept them. It is what makes EVE great.
This weekend should prove to be interesting, good luck to all involved.
I can't say I don't blame you... However I think you could have made a deal to get your stuff out instead of paying for the stations. I can say that we don't pay any rent and some might consider us meat shields.... However we love to fight so it doesn't matter to me... TBH I don't know your guys since we've lived in Fountain since October and the baddies always seam to come to us... I'm sure there will be some nice fights and loosing stations that you work hard for sucks... However I do respect you guys for fighting... though I don't respect you switching sides like you did.
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Farham
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:37:00 -
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Quote:
However I think you could have made a deal to get your stuff out instead of paying for the stations.
Those stations are assets in our eyes as well. At the time they were built they were built when both corps were much smaller then they are now (and even now we aren't huge). A lot of work and time went into them.
The "side" we ultimately ended up on really has nothing to do with EVE or CAOD politics. It was pretty much black and white...one side makes us pay for what we view as ours, one doesn't.
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Moonlight Express
Amarr
Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav
Many of the BoB pets are real brave with big brother standing behind them.
This is rich comming from EAC. How long would your alliance last without your northern NAP friends?
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Zrevak Ashek
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aelena Thraant
...though I don't respect you switching sides like you did.
They rebelled against the "ebil empire"  I mean, u must be insane not to respect that
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Dungheap
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rancid Beef
Edited by: Rancid Beef on 04/05/2007 20:21:30
Bob Cap Zerg?
According to our killboard there were 7 cap ships involved, 6 of them carriers and 1 mothership.
Only the mother and one of the carriers belonged to BoB. 3 were RISE caps and 2 were DR caps. The entire rest of the support fleet was RISE and DR, not one BoB.
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Rancid, i'm eve-mailing you a link showing two bob m.ships on one of our losses. you are right about the bulk of carrier reinforcements belonging to rise, however. tnx for correcting me.
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Exortius Amarrus
The Clearwater Society
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.04 20:58:00 -
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I can't even tell what thread i'm reading these days. It's like they all bleed together.
Nice battlereport, sounds like it was good fun.
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Alkarz
Minmatar
Research Iniative
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Posted - 2007.05.04 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Farham
Quote:
However I think you could have made a deal to get your stuff out instead of paying for the stations.
Those stations are assets in our eyes as well. At the time they were built they were built when both corps were much smaller then they are now (and even now we aren't huge). A lot of work and time went into them.
The "side" we ultimately ended up on really has nothing to do with EVE or CAOD politics. It was pretty much black and white...one side makes us pay for what we view as ours, one doesn't.
They werent your asset, they were bobs once you started paying them to live there, im not suprised that youve lost the stations and am only suprised it took this long, i spent 5 weeks in dragons rage and never before have i seen such a lack of communication in alliance chat dont recall it ever flashing too, you dont speak to each other and do plenty to hinder each other( i once remember Dragons rage members placing bubbles up on the gate when AWE was bringing a freighter convoy down, and them all laughting on vent to put more down)
You beleived bob was getting its backsides kicked so you struck a deal with goonies and co and so you started claiming squatters rights.
Now bob have kicked you out, where are these people you struck a deal with?
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jnky
Obsidian Inc.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.04 21:03:00 -
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gratz dfc, DB1 is a sweet sys for ratting 
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Blood Thorn
Minmatar
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Aelena Thraant
I can't say I don't blame you... However I think you could have made a deal to get your stuff out instead of paying for the stations. I can say that we don't pay any rent and some might consider us meat shields.... However we love to fight so it doesn't matter to me... TBH I don't know your guys since we've lived in Fountain since October and the baddies always seam to come to us... I'm sure there will be some nice fights and loosing stations that you work hard for sucks... However I do respect you guys for fighting... though I don't respect you switching sides like you did.
Once again, we did not switch sides.
We do not run to to CAOD to post smack, brag about victories, or even to relay events that are taking place in or near our systems. Why?
It's about respect. Respect for your friends, respect for your enemies.
The few times we do post a summary is when there has been some EPIC fighting that is worth noting. Hense our previous posts regarding some of our fights with RISE. These fights are a small percentage of the great fights we have had that were never mentioned anywhere. We have no desire to entertain those who choose to not venture into 0.0, and for those who are in 0.0, knowledge is power, guard it well. Oh man, now I'm quoting a game, so it must be time to go.
I'll leave with this: the fight for our systems is far from over. 
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Slayton Ford
Kudzu Collective
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.05.04 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Rancid Beef
But by all means please keep trying to remove RISE from Feyth, maybe one day the Coalition will see the light. We contracted with BoB to move here. We MOVED here to SHOOT you. We moved our entire alliance 60+ jumps to shoot you. The more you come into Feyth for us to shoot you, the happier we are.
No this is a bunch of BS. Rise moved to RIT/etc because its a nice deadend constellation w/ 3 outposts and a 10/10. Of course that does come with a extensive RENT doesnt it? Oh wait, the Reds were actually farming your own complex from under you to the point where you couldn't even pay BoB the monthly rent on it.
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Theladder
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Posted - 2007.05.04 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Alkarz
Originally by: Farham
Quote:
However I think you could have made a deal to get your stuff out instead of paying for the stations.
Those stations are assets in our eyes as well. At the time they were built they were built when both corps were much smaller then they are now (and even now we aren't huge). A lot of work and time went into them.
The "side" we ultimately ended up on really has nothing to do with EVE or CAOD politics. It was pretty much black and white...one side makes us pay for what we view as ours, one doesn't.
They werent your asset, they were bobs once you started paying them to live there, im not suprised that youve lost the stations and am only suprised it took this long, i spent 5 weeks in dragons rage and never before have i seen such a lack of communication in alliance chat dont recall it ever flashing too, you dont speak to each other and do plenty to hinder each other( i once remember Dragons rage members placing bubbles up on the gate when AWE was bringing a freighter convoy down, and them all laughting on vent to put more down)
You beleived bob was getting its backsides kicked so you struck a deal with goonies and co and so you started claiming squatters rights.
Now bob have kicked you out, where are these people you struck a deal with?
Were you a DR member O_o... how come that I dont remember u at all then lmao  
GF btw :)
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Fabrice Enchante
Gallente
Active Measures
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Posted - 2007.05.04 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Blitz'Krieg
To me this is the one reason why i think BoB should be stopped.
Tbh i like BoB and respect their skills but the sweepingaway of built up assets by "conquer and rent" tactics can make this game go nowhere for me.
When smaller alliances are bullied out of existance simply for a profit regardless of anything else i simply dont like it. It doesn't promote a healthy approach to the game because why would you work and slave away in order to build something that is going to be taken away so easy.
Once again i will state my firm belief that capital ships will ruin the game.
Sounds like you should form a coalition or something to fight them.
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Aidelon
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 22:12:00 -
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There's been some good fighting going on. Looking forword to more.
Always love fighting rise. we're matched up well and both sides just have tons of fun. That's what it's all about.
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Malachi Nu'shemn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.04 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Slayton Ford
No this is a bunch of BS. Rise moved to RIT/etc because its a nice deadend constellation w/ 3 outposts and a 10/10. Of course that does come with a extensive RENT doesnt it? Oh wait, the Reds were actually farming your own complex from under you to the point where you couldn't even pay BoB the monthly rent on it.
Don't believe the hype. Poor spying ftl.
Sounds like I missed a good fight  Well done! 
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Shardrael
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Shardrael on 04/05/2007 22:41:24
Originally by: Aelena Thraant
Originally by: Farham
Quote:
Wait a minute... I thought BoB was at a stalemate downsouth and/or loosing ground... hrm...
Good job BoB and friends... I guess you are second guessing switching sides now....
The most interesting thing about the ZS and DB1 situation is that it moved to mass POS spamming. It certainly threw us for a loop but we have adapted and strive to fight on.
Let me preface my next comments with the fact they are my own opinion and I do not speak for AWE or IRC as member of HC.
Now, as far as second guessing? Not in the least. Dragons Rage and AWE corporation built the two stations in ZS and DB1. As the ASCN war wound down we were in a "fight to the end" mode and as such left all of our assets in the area. The last days of the war happened very fast with most of ASCN taking deals to leave the area or having left the area earier.
An offer was made to keep our stations and as a result our rather large amount of assets, for a price in the billions of ISK per month. We essentially had a gun to our heads if we wanted to keep our assets. Our HC made the right call, pay the blood money until we can get ourselves organized enough to re-assert our sovereignty and stop paying the blood money. Our deal was simply to hand over ISK for living in our personally built stations, it never included a pledge of loyalty or some agreement that we would be part of "the BOB empire".
As anyone who has had a conquering enemy move in understands, when the opportunity to free yourselves shows up, you take it. We took ours. We knew BOB would come. There is no regret, none, regardless of how things turn out. We will not live as renters, slaves or meat shields. We have been fighting and will continue to fight to the last ship, POS and ISK. Win, lose or draw, IRC to a member understands that in EVE there are real consequences to choices and we fully accept them. It is what makes EVE great.
This weekend should prove to be interesting, good luck to all involved.
I can't say I don't blame you... However I think you could have made a deal to get your stuff out instead of paying for the stations. I can say that we don't pay any rent and some might consider us meat shields.... However we love to fight so it doesn't matter to me... TBH I don't know your guys since we've lived in Fountain since October and the baddies always seam to come to us... I'm sure there will be some nice fights and loosing stations that you work hard for sucks... However I do respect you guys for fighting... though I don't respect you switching sides like you did.
let me make one thing ABUNDANTLY CLEAR to you, those are our stations... ASCN did not build them we did, Dragons Rage built there station on there own in what at the time was one of the furthest corners of a no npc station 0.0 region on their own, and AWE built there station on there own with some DR support to lock down the system, they are not something we will simply leave behind, at the moment we have lost control of one, however to think we will give up and leave never to consider it again is a grievous mistake on anyone that may think that, I realize Digital Renegades that you no longer have sovereighnty anywhere but our space, so if this really is all or nothing for you, I hope you are prepared to stick it out, we will not go quietly in to the night and we will not just hand over our stations. With Bob assisting you everytime you are unable or not we will continue to fight.
Originally by: Stamm
Some people might have been convinced by the official announcement posted by Steelrat, but not me, I wasn't convinced until some random alt posts a brand new thread.
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Rancid Beef
Shadow Gypsies
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.04 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Slayton Ford
Originally by: Rancid Beef
But by all means please keep trying to remove RISE from Feyth, maybe one day the Coalition will see the light. We contracted with BoB to move here. We MOVED here to SHOOT you. We moved our entire alliance 60+ jumps to shoot you. The more you come into Feyth for us to shoot you, the happier we are.
No this is a bunch of BS. Rise moved to RIT/etc because its a nice deadend constellation w/ 3 outposts and a 10/10. Of course that does come with a extensive RENT doesnt it? Oh wait, the Reds were actually farming your own complex from under you to the point where you couldn't even pay BoB the monthly rent on it.
BS? How so? Are we not contracted with BoB to live in Feyth? Rent is a contract. Can't pay BoB rent? Our member rent is just 10mil a month, that is about 2 belts, or 10mins a MONTH. Rise has never not payed or fulfilled it's contract. Personally I just sell any one of hundreds of mods I get pvping, no big deal. 10mil a month to blast thousands of clueless farmers? Priceless.
RA does indeed run the plex after down time alot, your point? You don't even have a 10/10 plex.
Here is my point Slayton Ford. This morning your enemies took over a home region w/outposts of a friendly alliance within 10mins or 12-15 jumps of you. Why wasn't your vaunted Coalition there to defend them? Why was not one single allie of Intrepid there to help them? The answer is very simple, concerned about a plex, just like your post implies. Concerned about making the almighty ISK, not concerned about helping anyone but themselves.
You can say what you want about Intrepid , but at least they had balls. Maybe they can join up with RISE and we'll carve out a nice chunk of KOS space. I'm sure they harbor no ill will after you threw them under the bus so you can rat and help RA plex farm...
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