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Trisha Banks
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2007.05.04 23:23:00 -
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The train is coming!! Choo Choo!!
oh wait, you mean the train forgot to come? oopsie.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.04 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 04/05/2007 23:25:25
Just want to state that the BoB carriers did not enter the fray until we had clearly won the battle, destroyed a carrier, and had re-engaged the station for the 3rd and final time. It was a great fight. I don't know why people complain about allies helping out either way, as I am sure Intrepid Crossing expected their allies to help them, but alas, that never happened, not once, over the past few weeks of assault upon their systems.
What else did you expect from Goons and Russians? They care for nothing but themselves.
I really liked Intrepid Crossing when they were our allies, and eventually learned the respect them as enemies. You guys should of stayed on our side. We would of been there for you, and so would of BoB. I feel no ill effects of BoB upon my life in Feythabolis. Infact, it is nice to know you have the strongest alliance in Eve at your back if worst comes to worst, but if anyone thinks that BoB is the reason RISE is still standing after months of attacks by 3 of the largest and most powerful alliances in the game, you must be kidding yourself. We stand on our own two feet and we stand proudly.
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Blood Thorn
Minmatar
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 23:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Rancid Beef
You can say what you want about Intrepid , but at least they had balls.
<<GULP>> ....Ummmm....
/me quickly checks his *hangar*
<<WHEW>>
Can we change this to the present tense please? I was suddenly worried about a sneak attack with a <<clears throat>> *very* large pair of scissors....
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Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.04 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Morris Falter
I take my hat off to Intrepid, and I believe a few of my corp mates will too. Quality act, and that they got blobbed into submission by the predictable and bloodless bob cap zerg, in no way reflects their ability or determination.
(just imo ;))
Yeah everyone should stop building better ships, and make sure that they only undock as many pilots as their enemy already has in the field. I'm so sick and tired of people whining about blobs etc. If your army has 1000 men, and your opponents has 10,000 men, then they have the strength to take your stuff. You need to be stronger or have less stuff, or have powerful friends that can actually help you.
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Dungheap
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.04 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 04/05/2007 23:33:06
Just want to state for the record that the BoB carriers did not cyno in and enter the fray until we had clearly won the battle, destroyed a carrier, and had re-engaged the station for the 3rd and final time with no hostiles present on grid.
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i beg to differ; your own kb shows a bob m.ship as well as a bob carrier, on the intrepid crossing carrier loss.
http://www.eve-rise.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14984
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.05 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dungheap
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 04/05/2007 23:33:06
Just want to state for the record that the BoB carriers did not cyno in and enter the fray until we had clearly won the battle, destroyed a carrier, and had re-engaged the station for the 3rd and final time with no hostiles present on grid.
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i beg to differ; your own kb shows a bob m.ship as well as a bob carrier, on the intrepid crossing carrier loss.
http://www.eve-rise.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14984
There was one BoB carrier there the entire fight from the start. The Thanatos. The MoM got there just as the carrier went down. The battle was over and you guys had abandoned iqplayer and his carrier already at that point. I promise you, if Juan had been in the battle from the start, he would of been on top of that killmail, not almost last. BoB has nothing to do with our victory, besides the one single carrier, which still left us outnumbered carrier-wise, and it is a shame you try to steal our victory and give it to BoB when that is hardly the truth.
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iqplayer
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: iqplayer on 05/05/2007 00:22:50
A couple of things I want to clear up. First, my corp did not abandon me on the field, *I* was the one that called the warpout as a cyno opened up in system and local jumped.
My killmail was truncated due to the massive number involved, and the amount of drones in the dronebay. Rest assured there were more involved in it's death than show on the mails. I don't know the exact numbers, but at least 10 carriers + 1 MS jumped in (and one MS logged on I think).
To all you who keep saying that IRC 'changed sides', are 'turncoats', or whatever - Bob came to Feyth and burned it to the ground. Yes, it needed it. It doesn't mean we liked it, and it certainly didn't make Bob our friends. We did what we needed to do to survive at the time. We didn't change sides - we're on *OUR* side, and it just so happens that we'd rather fight to try to be free, than to fight in order to pay someone else for space.
Anywho, the battle's not over yet, in YZKE constellation, or in Feyth. The battles are proving to be quite fun (for both sides I think), and no matter what happens, the real losers are those who are missing the chance to be a part of this massive event.
Remember, Eve is a game - Have Fun!
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Dungheap
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 00:33:00 -
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rahegor, i assure you it's my intention only to bring as accurate an account of the battle as possible. rise carried the day, there is no denying. statistics can be misleading, as in the station actually fell to bob, and bob carrier landing final blow on our carrier, in themselves don't tell the tale.
my thanks to you and your corpmates for correcting me as you have.
please however, don't say we abandoned iqplayer on the field. he was on ts ordering everyone to stay out, interspersed with maniacal laughter. despite the loss, i think he had more fun than anyone.
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iqplayer
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: iqplayer on 05/05/2007 00:31:39
Originally by: Wylker
Originally by: Morris Falter
I take my hat off to Intrepid, and I believe a few of my corp mates will too. Quality act, and that they got blobbed into submission by the predictable and bloodless bob cap zerg, in no way reflects their ability or determination.
(just imo ;))
Yeah everyone should stop building better ships, and make sure that they only undock as many pilots as their enemy already has in the field. I'm so sick and tired of people whining about blobs etc. If your army has 1000 men, and your opponents has 10,000 men, then they have the strength to take your stuff. You need to be stronger or have less stuff, or have powerful friends that can actually help you.
I hear what you're saying, to some extent, and it's true that this is what happens in war - both in Eve, and RL, escalation. There are two sides to this though - one, we're here to have fun, and I think the battles this morning in ZS were pretty interesting. Huge Blobs tend to not result in fun fights though, either because noone's going to fight if there's no chance of winning - or more importantly, because Eve just can't handle those numbers. Local only got to about 110-120 this morning, but I know the lag I experienced was quite bad. Hey, that's how it goes - but Eve would be sooo much more fun without the lag. I know, prolly wishful thinking :D
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.05 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Solo
The smack in local was unfortunate, but I can understand your frustration in being sieged by an alliance half your size, while being incapable of removing us from your space.
 Since when was bob half the size of Intrepid? Surely you cant be referring to DFC?
Sorry to hear about the setback Intrepid - a class act all the way. o>
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iqplayer
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: Dungheap
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 04/05/2007 23:33:06
Just want to state for the record that the BoB carriers did not cyno in and enter the fray until we had clearly won the battle, destroyed a carrier, and had re-engaged the station for the 3rd and final time with no hostiles present on grid.
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i beg to differ; your own kb shows a bob m.ship as well as a bob carrier, on the intrepid crossing carrier loss.
http://www.eve-rise.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14984
There was one BoB carrier there the entire fight from the start. The Thanatos. The MoM got there just as the carrier went down. The battle was over and you guys had abandoned iqplayer and his carrier already at that point. I promise you, if Juan had been in the battle from the start, he would of been on top of that killmail, not almost last. BoB has nothing to do with our victory, besides the one single carrier, which still left us outnumbered carrier-wise, and it is a shame you try to steal our victory and give it to BoB when that is hardly the truth.
Umm, you do realize that the point that we warped out was when the large group of reinforcements cynoed in (be they Rise, or Bob, or whoever?) We were holding our own on the battlefield up to that point, and made you warpout twice in that final battle. Also, we had more *carriers* than you - 1 more, to be exact - but you didn't bring your carriers to the front lines until that final cyno. You, on the other hand, had more BS, so overall it was fairly even till that point, with you outnumbering us in local (of course, local doesn't tell the whole story).
Umm, btw, a Malediction was on the top of my killmail (typically the 'top damage dealer' spot), so I think that alone should be proof that Eve does freaky stuff when it truncates killmails. Answer me this one question, how many carriers did you (Rise) cyno in at the end, and how many were Bob? In the heat of battle, it was rather hard to get an accurate count, and if they were mostly Rise, props - but you were surely not outnumbered at the point that the battle turned, since it was absolutely *because* of the carriers/MS jumping in that the battle turned.
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Melissa McPherson
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 00:47:00 -
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Very entertaining!
INTREPID INFO
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.05 00:55:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 05/05/2007 00:52:31
The reason you see interceptors on the top of the killmail is because they left their assigned fighters on the carrier the entire time. I didn't mean "abandoned your carrier" in a bad way, just that you guys had to pull out and he was left behind. Also, yeah, maybe my account is not perfect, as it is pretty crazy in battle sometimes, but I am not trying to stretch the truth or lie on purpose if I was inaccurate in anyway.
Anyway, good fight as I said before. Was quite fun, and I am sure we will have more in the future.
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Mr Mirage
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 01:23:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Mr Mirage on 05/05/2007 01:20:56
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 05/05/2007 00:52:31
The reason you see interceptors on the top of the killmail is because they left their assigned fighters on the carrier the entire time. ...
Damage done by fighters is attributed to the carrier pilot, not the vessel wielding them.
For the record, our carrier went down a minute or so after the cynod-in backups arrived.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.05 01:57:00 -
[45]
Well, then having three interceptors on the killmail is certainly strange.
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Gobblock
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 02:43:00 -
[46]
I think the killmails got screwy on that battle.
I wasn't on a killmail i knew i should have been on, that wasn't truncated, and likewise, I was on a killmail i know i shouldn't have been on, using a module i didnt have fitted.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari
Lords Of Amber
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Posted - 2007.05.05 04:30:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Commander Solo
The smack in local was unfortunate, but I can understand your frustration in being sieged by an alliance half your size, while being incapable of removing us from your space.
You made me laugh.
All Fey pets combined couldn't take 1 single station system from a damn small corp, 30+ BoB capitals had to come in during holidays to take it over.
You're a funny man.
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Garrett Smith
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.05 05:01:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Queen News
So what your saying is BoB and Friends take even more stations. Where is this great train at.
Lol the news here is just as biased as in real life :-P lol
Originally by: El Yatta
they shouldnt have gotten involved in supercaps, because on the whole they are very dull, except for 2-3 people in the alliance who get to go "wheee, i cant be scrambled, pwn pwn". |
Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.05 05:02:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Commander Solo
The smack in local was unfortunate, but I can understand your frustration in being sieged by an alliance half your size, while being incapable of removing us from your space.
You made me laugh.
All Fey pets combined couldn't take 1 single station system from a damn small corp, 30+ BoB capitals had to come in during holidays to take it over.
You're a funny man.
All of the coalition combined can not remove one BoB pet from Feythabolis. Get a life.
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XxAngelxX
Amarr
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.05 05:07:00 -
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Well done BOB, dfc cant have anything 2 do with this as they suck
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.05 06:33:00 -
[51]
Originally by: XxAngelxX
Well done BOB, dfc cant have anything 2 do with this as they suck
Sniff sniff...
Originally by: Dr Cupid
Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
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Kw4h
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 07:59:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Commander Solo
The smack in local was unfortunate, but I can understand your frustration in being sieged by an alliance half your size, while being incapable of removing us from your space.
The real frustration I personally have is that you came in with a big force, spammed towers, and then sat back in your POS waiting for sov to change. 
Last week I noticed a few things. You didn't come out of that shield unless there was an active BoB mothership flying around the system. With the current system, motherships are invulnerable to anything but dread fleets.
Secondly, the other time that you really come out of your POS is when you actually outnumber is 3 to 1. The rest of the day we only see some intercepters warping around, and when we respond to them, they warp off.
You have to admit yourself that you're completely incapable of doing anything significant without having BoB support.
Lets give a juicy example. You weren't even able to kill a blackbird that was getting tackled by on of your inties. Heck, you even jumped in a hauler through a gate, camped by 2 of your own bubbles, without any support. Too bad most of the loot got destroyed, but we still had some nice leftovers. 
Btw... didn't you just lose your 2 systems in Esoteria?
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Commander Solo
Caldari
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.05.05 09:39:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Kw4h
Originally by: Commander Solo
The smack in local was unfortunate, but I can understand your frustration in being sieged by an alliance half your size, while being incapable of removing us from your space.
The real frustration I personally have is that you came in with a big force, spammed towers, and then sat back in your POS waiting for sov to change.
Last week I noticed a few things. You didn't come out of that shield unless there was an active BoB mothership flying around the system. With the current system, motherships are invulnerable to anything but dread fleets.
Secondly, the other time that you really come out of your POS is when you actually outnumber is 3 to 1. The rest of the day we only see some intercepters warping around, and when we respond to them, they warp off.
You have to admit yourself that you're completely incapable of doing anything significant without having BoB support.
Lets give a juicy example. You weren't even able to kill a blackbird that was getting tackled by on of your inties. Heck, you even jumped in a hauler through a gate, camped by 2 of your own bubbles, without any support. Too bad most of the loot got destroyed, but we still had some nice leftovers.
Btw... didn't you just lose your 2 systems in Esoteria?
I just suggest that you recheck your facts mate to be honest. There hasn't been any bob motherships in the system all week as im sure their mother pilots will confirm, so next lie plz.
The hauler pilot was being a nub, not my problem, i have no tolerance for stupidity.
Oh btw, where have your fleet been all week? if there was something worth killing we would have been there.
We didnt "loose" two systems in esoteria, they were handed over to another corporation in anticipation for when we take DB1R and ZS-.
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Kw4h
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.05 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Solo
Oh btw, where have your fleet been all week? if there was something worth killing we would have been there.
We didnt "loose" two systems in esoteria, they were handed over to another corporation in anticipation for when we take DB1R and ZS-.
Fair enough, my bad about those 2 systems. I'm not in your alliance so I can't see who you're allied with.
You also seem to be pretty confident in taking our 2 systems. By handing over your own system you either show that you run out of isk to maintain multiple systems, or you underestimated us bigtime.
Anyway, we'll see what the future brings. Fun weekend ahead and I'm sure I'll be on your killmail
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Commander Solo
Caldari
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.05.05 10:34:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Kw4h
Originally by: Commander Solo
Oh btw, where have your fleet been all week? if there was something worth killing we would have been there.
We didnt "loose" two systems in esoteria, they were handed over to another corporation in anticipation for when we take DB1R and ZS-.
Fair enough, my bad about those 2 systems. I'm not in your alliance so I can't see who you're allied with.
You also seem to be pretty confident in taking our 2 systems. By handing over your own system you either show that you run out of isk to maintain multiple systems, or you underestimated us bigtime.
Anyway, we'll see what the future brings. Fun weekend ahead and I'm sure I'll be on your killmail
No Worries, i wouldn't expect you to know.
I can assure you that isk isn't and never will be an issue for us, so you can just let go of that slither of hope :)
But i can agree with you that it will be a fun weekend all round, and i look forward to being shot a :P
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.05.05 10:48:00 -
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Welcome to modern Eve 0.0 warefare.
And I thought Privateers would suck...
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Weka Dart
Caldari
Band of Sisters
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Posted - 2007.05.05 11:19:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Farham
Quote:
Wait a minute... I thought BoB was at a stalemate downsouth and/or loosing ground... hrm...
Good job BoB and friends... I guess you are second guessing switching sides now....
The most interesting thing about the ZS and DB1 situation is that it moved to mass POS spamming. It certainly threw us for a loop but we have adapted and strive to fight on.
Let me preface my next comments with the fact they are my own opinion and I do not speak for AWE or IRC as member of HC.
Now, as far as second guessing? Not in the least. Dragons Rage and AWE corporation built the two stations in ZS and DB1. As the ASCN war wound down we were in a "fight to the end" mode and as such left all of our assets in the area. The last days of the war happened very fast with most of ASCN taking deals to leave the area or having left the area earier.
An offer was made to keep our stations and as a result our rather large amount of assets, for a price in the billions of ISK per month. We essentially had a gun to our heads if we wanted to keep our assets. Our HC made the right call, pay the blood money until we can get ourselves organized enough to re-assert our sovereignty and stop paying the blood money. Our deal was simply to hand over ISK for living in our personally built stations, it never included a pledge of loyalty or some agreement that we would be part of "the BOB empire".
As anyone who has had a conquering enemy move in understands, when the opportunity to free yourselves shows up, you take it. We took ours. We knew BOB would come. There is no regret, none, regardless of how things turn out. We will not live as renters, slaves or meat shields. We have been fighting and will continue to fight to the last ship, POS and ISK. Win, lose or draw, IRC to a member understands that in EVE there are real consequences to choices and we fully accept them. It is what makes EVE great.
This weekend should prove to be interesting, good luck to all involved. 
When ur mining in jita and all ur members have left and joined BOB empire I hope you don't regret ur decision.
As previously stated, BOB cannot be beaten.
Nice universe....
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Astro Fizzicks
Gallente
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.05 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex
Originally by: Commander Solo
The smack in local was unfortunate, but I can understand your frustration in being sieged by an alliance half your size, while being incapable of removing us from your space.
You made me laugh.
All Fey pets combined couldn't take 1 single station system from a damn small corp, 30+ BoB capitals had to come in during holidays to take it over.
You're a funny man.
All of the coalition combined can not remove one BoB pet from Feythabolis. Get a life.
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Maybe not, but I bet I could remove your milk teeth from your spotty little mouth.
Theres not one pet alliance that could stand against any one free alliance, thats why we have free space and u lame lemmings live in bobs pockets, coz ur too weak to stand on your own feet.
You've all, without exception either had your pathetic faces punched in by bob and had to beg to stay in your mudhuts or been kicked out the space you were in because you couldn't defend it and went running to bob 'buhoo mr bob, *insert free alliance name* kicked us out of our space coz we are *insert reason* can we have some of ur 0.0 and we will provide you with isk and meatshields.
I hoope you all catch nobrot.
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Malvahne
FIRMA
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Posted - 2007.05.05 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Astro Fizzicks
Maybe not, but I bet I could remove your milk teeth from your spotty little mouth.
Theres not one pet alliance that could stand against any one free alliance, thats why we have free space and u lame lemmings live in bobs pockets, coz ur too weak to stand on your own feet.
You've all, without exception either had your pathetic faces punched in by bob and had to beg to stay in your mudhuts or been kicked out the space you were in because you couldn't defend it and went running to bob 'buhoo mr bob, *insert free alliance name* kicked us out of our space coz we are *insert reason* can we have some of ur 0.0 and we will provide you with isk and meatshields.
I hoope you all catch nobrot.
^^^^
I giggled.
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Blgus Dlckus
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Posted - 2007.05.05 11:37:00 -
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