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Samuel Freedom Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2007.05.06 14:17:00 - [1] Through out the ages man has created many empires and some were very successful, Roman Ancient China, Egypt to name a few. Alot of these Empires/Civilisations did great things(good and bad) and some terrific wonders were produced. In the new world that we live in today we could argue quite easily that we have surpassed our forbears in many areas if not all. Now the thing that all the great civilisations have had in common is that they have all come to an end and with that end came a period of anarchy or The Dark Ages which in some cases lasted 100's of years and the loss of scientific advancement was quite substantial(Romans had sewers in place, it was only hundreds of years later that the English rediscovered the technology). Now I don't believe that the fall of our great new world civilisation is doomed I feel we do have some trying, testing and quite abhorrent times ahead of us. I think there are two or three major foreseeable issues these being :- 1) Global Warming (if it exists, but I beleive it does and not totally man made i.e. it happens all the time in the 'grand scheme of things'. Fancy an ice age anyone?) 2) The lack of Cheap Oil in the near future. I belive there is nothing we can do about Global Warming now some scientists believe that we have passed the 'point of no return' and that it is the natural order of things, its just that we have speeded up nature . So I think we should cut our loses and do whatever it takes to preserve ourselves and the myriad of life that is abundent now. (ill explain how I think we can later). OIL ! The life blood of the world, the substance which has allowed humanity to expand and sustain a civilisation beyond the wildest dreams of our forbears. Ahh such a sting in tail though. Starvation, poverty and destruction will come if we don't find a suitable replacement and soon. The ways that oil is used in everyday life is stagering. I think everything I touch is conected to OIL in some way, its just amazing! So what do we need to do ? IMHO, Firstly and most importantly we need to build an ARK like Noahs but more modern There has already begun a seed bank in various countries around the world this is excellent news ! But we also need a bank for animals/fish and every other living thing including humans (there sperm and eggs). The Second thing we have to do is the next most important to is get into SPACE, it is the only way to ensure that we will survive as a species otherwise we just cant compete with meteors or Supernovas you get the idea its obvious. We need to find NEW WORLDS. Thanks for reading comments welcome/views welcome . This not about politics so please leave it at the door. If anyone has any linksand views you think are relevent then please post them
Captain Garrett	Posted - 2007.05.06 14:31:00 - [2] Getting into space is the worst thing we can do, that's where the Cylons live and they'll kill us no matter how many planets we have. If we stay heer meteors and supernova's aren't an issue SG-1 has dealt with them before and I have every confidence that the fine men and women at cheyenne mountain will be able to save us again.
Samuel Freedom Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2007.05.06 14:48:00 - [3] haha seriously if there are hostile Aliens out there that know we are here they would of acted on us before now and enslaved us im sure . But the best think to do to be able counter such a threat would be to multiply, spread out, explore and generally get stronger and if there are some friendly aliens make alliances . But to be honest space is so err big I think it would be some time befopre we come into contact with another form of life.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.06 14:51:00 - [4] Originally by: Samuel Freedom haha seriously if there are hostile Aliens out there that know we are here they would of acted on us before now and enslaved us im sure . But the best think to do to be able counter such a threat would be to multiply, spread out, explore and generally get stronger and if there are some friendly aliens make alliances . But to be honest space is so err big I think it would be some time befopre we come into contact with another form of life. And even then its likely to be some sort of moss.. or something... -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW!
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.05.06 14:56:00 - [5] No doubt a deadly man-eating moss with an insatiable thirst for human blood.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.06 15:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Xelios No doubt a deadly man-eating moss with an insatiable thirst for human blood. Earth Command 2134: "We cant win sir!!" "The moss! Shes too strong!" "Start the self destruct, if we're going down we're taking that moss with us!" The horror -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW!
oDDiTy V2 Epic.	Posted - 2007.05.06 15:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Xelios No doubt a deadly man-eating moss with an insatiable thirst for human blood. What if there's fedos?
Constantine Arcanum IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2007.05.06 15:30:00 - [8] OMFG this thread is awesome. props to you mr. freedom!
ReePeR McAllem The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2007.05.06 17:45:00 - [9] Originally by: Samuel Freedom haha seriously if there are hostile Aliens out there The theory of other intelligent life forms existing in the universe is quite interesting. S.E.T.I has formulated the theory. Wont bore you with the math and everything. The theory goes; its not about if other life exists, more when it existed. They described it as a record disk. If mankind's lifespan was a needle pin on the record. The chances of another intelligent race (being of the same existance span of us) actually being on the same line of the record, let alone the same precise area is near impossible. So if intelligent life is or was or will be out there. Humanity most probably will never see it. The arguement is that we as a race could live forever once we have the means to spead out into space. But then forever is a long time and to become more than just a needle on the record we may as well not even mention.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.06 18:04:00 - [10] Originally by: ReePeR McAllem Originally by: Samuel Freedom haha seriously if there are hostile Aliens out there The theory of other intelligent life forms existing in the universe is quite interesting. S.E.T.I has formulated the theory. Wont bore you with the math and everything. The theory goes; its not about if other life exists, more when it existed. They described it as a record disk. If mankind's lifespan was a needle pin on the record. The chances of another intelligent race (being of the same existance span of us) actually being on the same line of the record, let alone the same precise area is near impossible. So if intelligent life is or was or will be out there. Humanity most probably will never see it. The arguement is that we as a race could live forever once we have the means to spead out into space. But then forever is a long time and to become more than just a needle on the record we may as well not even mention. The rate of human reproduction has reached near exponential levels.. In Asimovs Foundation, i love how it talks about the humans all over the galaxy quadrillions of them... even then though thats only one galaxy.. if only he had lived to carry on his works -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW!
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.05.06 18:16:00 - [11] Seriously, we need to get off this planet, having all our eggs in one basket is a stupid idea.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.05.06 20:07:00 - [12] Biologically seen, our body is way too fragile and imperfect to become invincible and would need major technological upgrades to be able to even grow beyond 200 years. Socially seen, there is just too much retards.
Mathias413	Posted - 2007.05.07 00:47:00 - [13] Actually this thread reminds me of a movie i saw when i was a boy, its called "Titan A.E." A.E. mean "after earth" its all about a massive ship carrying a massive amount of DNA from every creature on earth and when it is activated it maked a new earth and then "plants" all the seeds on it
Asimov Andies Gallente Red Blade Industries	Posted - 2007.05.07 00:59:00 - [14] Originally by: Mathias413 Actually this thread reminds me of a movie i saw when i was a boy, its called "Titan A.E." A.E. mean "after earth" its all about a massive ship carrying a massive amount of DNA from every creature on earth and when it is activated it maked a new earth and then "plants" all the seeds on it based on the under lined word I just have to ask... Are you sure your still not a child? -=#=- Angry beer bottles make Kaemonn a sad panda NO It's Been Touched
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.05.07 07:07:00 - [15] Edited by: voogru on 07/05/2007 07:03:38 Originally by: Samuel Freedom haha seriously if there are hostile Aliens out there that know we are here they would of acted on us before now and enslaved us im sure . But the best think to do to be able counter such a threat would be to multiply, spread out, explore and generally get stronger and if there are some friendly aliens make alliances . But to be honest space is so err big I think it would be some time befopre we come into contact with another form of life. Typically, any alien race capable of traveling the stars probably have better things to do than to lay claim on one planet, when there is no shortage of planets. Unlike ourselves where we fight amongst ourselves. Look, we even pretend to fight against each other in video games.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.05.07 07:57:00 - [16] The chance on extraterrestrial life is 1, since the number of planets is infinite, and therefor the number of hospitable planets is infinite. The chance of them meeting us is close to zero however cause in the 10 billion years past since the big bang, they could have emerged, risen to power, struggled due to conflict, and killed themselves off, just like humanity will do eventually. This sig is confirmed ISD-Proof«
Samuel Freedom Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2007.05.07 08:17:00 - [17] Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 07/05/2007 07:03:38 Originally by: Samuel Freedom haha seriously if there are hostile Aliens out there that know we are here they would of acted on us before now and enslaved us im sure . But the best think to do to be able counter such a threat would be to multiply, spread out, explore and generally get stronger and if there are some friendly aliens make alliances . But to be honest space is so err big I think it would be some time befopre we come into contact with another form of life. Typically, any alien race capable of traveling the stars probably have better things to do than to lay claim on one planet, when there is no shortage of planets. Unlike ourselves where we fight amongst ourselves. Look, we even pretend to fight against each other in video games. Well if the Alien race is anything like humanity there will be plenty of scope for exploitation and domoination, there will always be afewi individuals or groups of individuals that will be looking for profit status w/e and our world could provide them with that. That being said that is if they are like us, they may well be extremly benevolent Originally by: Sokratesz The chance on extraterrestrial life is 1, since the number of planets is infinite, and therefor the number of hospitable planets is infinite. The chance of them meeting us is close to zero however cause in the 10 billion years past since the big bang, they could have emerged, risen to power, struggled due to conflict, and killed themselves off, just like humanity will do eventually. Which is why it is essential we spread as far and as wide as we can possibly go, so everyone wont be caught up in the annihilation and some can carry on.
Suada	Posted - 2007.05.07 09:54:00 - [18] Unfortunately there are so many issues going on at home that I think any kind of a real space travel is kind of on the back burner for the time being. The main reason Rome fell and the dark ages followed was because of corupt leadership. History is undoubtably going to repeat itself if the majority of ppl don't wake up. Ironically the last dark age we had after Rome was during a mini ice age, which made life so much more difficult. Today's global warming is going to cause another mini ice age. It could have been prevented too. The problem is that the people in control are corrupt and only care about money. We had hybrid technology at the turn of the century (last century, not this one). The only reason our cars still run on fossil fuels is because uber wealthy, corrupt corporations under government protection are in control.. and eventhough its slipping out of their vice grip, like you said, its probably too late at this point. Additionally, our money is printed on worthless green paper printed by a private bank (the federal reserve). If the government printed it, it would need to be backed by gold or some other value...but an insanely small number of uber wealthy, corrupt individuals is in control and prints money whenever they want to.. because its not backed by anything. I'm all for capitalism, but what we have isnt capitalism. These uber rich banks and corporations are government backed totalitarians. These two MAJOR issues could easily bring along the next dark age. Even with today's technology, an ice age will reak total havoc and misery on this planet. And if our money isn't worth anything, everyone and I mean EVERYONE is going to be in for some major hardship in the next century. The human race (today more than ever) is completely dependent on technology for our survival. The very definition of a dark age is a period where technology and wealth is absent. I hope to God it doesn't come to this, but ppl are going to need to wake up and INSIST that our money is backed by something other than public trust. And we need to stop relying on oil as an energy source. We're never going to get to the point of teraforming or colonizing other planets if we can't get our sh*t together at home.
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.07 10:56:00 - [19] Selective breed the most randy of people and place their egg's and sperm in seeding ships. Than spread these ships in random directions like a big plague in space. We will become space rabbits. -------- Robbie Rotten left me
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.05.07 10:58:00 - [20] Edited by: Locus Bey on 07/05/2007 10:55:18 I thought we had entered the Dark Ages II about 50-60 years ago? Seriously
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.07 13:24:00 - [21] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 07/05/2007 13:21:49 Aliens, however benevolent, would have no other choice but to deem us dangerous going by our track record and breeding patterns, exploding like a virus in every habitat we occupy and in the end they will put us down. Oh and the re-entry into the dark ages was 2001. Also Known As
Taross Caldari Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.07 13:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Mathias413 Actually this thread reminds me of a movie i saw when i was a boy, its called "Titan A.E." A.E. mean "after earth" its all about a massive ship carrying a massive amount of DNA from every creature on earth and when it is activated it maked a new earth and then "plants" all the seeds on it Yeah, but... do you want to live on Planet BoB?
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.07 15:07:00 - [23] Originally by: Asimov Andies Originally by: Mathias413 Actually this thread reminds me of a movie i saw when i was a boy, its called "Titan A.E." A.E. mean "after earth" its all about a massive ship carrying a massive amount of DNA from every creature on earth and when it is activated it maked a new earth and then "plants" all the seeds on it based on the under lined word I just have to ask... Are you sure your still not a child? That film is not that old, im still legally not an adult and i remember it! You caught him! lol -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW!
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.05.07 16:36:00 - [24] Quote: Unfortunately there are so many issues going on at home that I think any kind of a real space travel is kind of on the back burner for the time being. And that is exactly why we have not gone anywhere yet... There will always be issues at home... We have to move forward with space travel no matter what. We sure as hell better have bases setup in our solar system within the next 500 years... Building the homestead
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.07 16:37:00 - [25] Originally by: ReePeR McAllem Originally by: Samuel Freedom haha seriously if there are hostile Aliens out there The theory of other intelligent life forms existing in the universe is quite interesting. S.E.T.I has formulated the theory. Wont bore you with the math and everything. The theory goes; its not about if other life exists, more when it existed. They described it as a record disk. If mankind's lifespan was a needle pin on the record. The chances of another intelligent race (being of the same existance span of us) actually being on the same line of the record, let alone the same precise area is near impossible. So if intelligent life is or was or will be out there. Humanity most probably will never see it. The arguement is that we as a race could live forever once we have the means to spead out into space. But then forever is a long time and to become more than just a needle on the record we may as well not even mention. That bit of theory wins the forums for today.
Kor'O Shaserra	Posted - 2007.05.07 18:42:00 - [26] Given the amount of noise (All that radio, wireless, and other stuff has to go somewhere...) that our civilization makes, its is very likely that any nearby alien race already knows about us. Whether that is a good thing, I don't know. P.S.: Titan A.E. is a good movie.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.07 19:13:00 - [27] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Originally by: Asimov Andies Originally by: Mathias413 Actually this thread reminds me of a movie i saw when i was a boy, its called "Titan A.E." A.E. mean "after earth" its all about a massive ship carrying a massive amount of DNA from every creature on earth and when it is activated it maked a new earth and then "plants" all the seeds on it based on the under lined word I just have to ask... Are you sure your still not a child? That film is not that old, im still legally not an adult and i remember it! You caught him! lol He was ripping into your spelling, you know --------
Mathias413	Posted - 2007.05.07 19:44:00 - [28] i dont see anything wrong
Ezekial Crow Gallente Team Machine Incorporated	Posted - 2007.05.07 20:50:00 - [29] Venus is the closest planet to the Sun. Tempuratures can reach over 500 celceus. Only the dreaded Lava men can survive there.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.05.07 21:19:00 - [30] Originally by: Kor'O Shaserra Given the amount of noise (All that radio, wireless, and other stuff has to go somewhere...) that our civilization makes, its is very likely that any nearby alien race already knows about us. Radio travels at the speed of light. We've only started transmitting significant amounts of it in the past fifty years, which means the signals can only be 50 lightyears away from us - an area without any habitable planets, so, no. ISD raped my sig!

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