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Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.01.03 17:12:00 - [31] Maybe it's fun for me to get people like Ganja banned from the game, maybe that's my game, I could be just that much of a lowlife, it's possible, we've seen those around here... Convert Stations
Rath Amon	Posted - 2004.01.03 17:21:00 - [32] Quote: Some people enjoy geting easy money through scams, that's the whole point of a game, to enjoy it, isn't it? yup just like those who enjoy easy kills from abusing the game mechanics. its part of the game, but they are still people friendly! -Eris Discordia
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2004.01.03 17:26:00 - [33] Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 03/01/2004 17:27:02 Eris, are the people RPing evil murdering scumbags, aka pirates, allowed to keep it unfriendly, since that's just rp? Oh, and scamming=legit . _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.01.03 17:43:00 - [34] Since when did piracy have to be 'evil'? Convert Stations
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2004.01.03 17:50:00 - [35] Quote: Since when did piracy have to be 'evil'? Since we killed you for fun, stole your cargo and sank your most prized possession (ship). _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Lianhaun	Posted - 2004.01.03 17:50:00 - [36] You cant expect people to play the game like you do. And if you know they dont, then stop interacting with them. Personally I had my own dealings with Ganja, and it might sadden me that he falls ( in my eyes) to understand my point of view. But there isn't much I can do about it. I do think that it goes to far to assume things about how he is in real life, in my experience people act different in and outgame. This is not a hijack
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:02:00 - [37] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 03/01/2004 18:04:28 It's a sad state indeed, pirates like Stavrosboy up here doesn't deserve any respect from the community and in my eyes they only get it in its unrefined form 'cause there will always be a few bendover boys giving it all up for candy. Convert Stations
j0sephine	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:08:00 - [38] "So the method doesn't conform to YOUR high and mighty moral outlook on how this game should be played, uhm, who cares?? just be quiet and play the game how YOU want to instead of busying yourself in other peoples affairs." ... Aren't you climbing on the "everyone is entitled to play how they like as long as it conforms to my idea of how they should play" high horse yourself? If they want to make a thread on game forum about someone's in-game practices, they should be free to do so by your own standards, if you actually mean what you're saying. You are in no position of authority to tell them to 'be quiet and play'...
Zarquon Beeblebrox	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:13:00 - [39] If people on this forums and in this game. Was just a litle more focused on making the game more fun for _your fellow player_ rather then only focusing on making the game fun for usself. Then we all could have more fun and im sure the tone in wich we speak to each other would be ten times more polite. There was a thread earlyer about EVE players ages. Reading that dont fith in to how people act in game and boards. I would like to ask as many of you to read some about netiquet (damn spellings) -- Lady Beeblebrox Teddybears movies
Ganja	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:15:00 - [40] Quote: ganja sounds pathetic Your entitled to your opinion.. Quote: Agreed, ganja you must be pritty young to make such a statement. OR you are defending an action you self know is wrong. Well, yes, I guess I am young. A mere 17 to be honest, but then if I weren't a pirate you wouldn't have assumed such a thing. Yes I know scamming is wrong, but like so many have said, its part of the game. I'm a pirate, do you expect me to play nice? Quote: there is nothing u can do about a boy like Ganja... i remember once when he hanged around #eve-online(wich he allways do, its his place to say goodmorning), he asked me about making some danish "storys" on Ganja's site www.eve-db.com... at first i was all game... but day after i saw him making people send him game files, so he could change textures of the game... he made a flying *** punisher etc... and posted the link in #eve-online, i remember ther was a wild discussing wether or not it was a bannable offence to "change" the files in the game(i.e. hacking the game)... and he just said "i dont own the game, you cant ban me at all"... but the link got him banned for a period on #eve-online(IRC)... i remember how gloating he was, and how far from mature he acted on it... now, its not bad changin textures... but if u could somehow(i have no real knowledge here, and ganja is probably going to pull my post apart) could change the texture for cloaking...... though, last time i ran logserver for a bugreport, i noticed that during login, there is alot of CRC checking, of even sounds... so i dont know its even still possible to change the files... Ganja seems to me, most like the little young kids from my neighbourhood, that are so *** dumb, and absolutly clueless, that i just have to hit them constantly... they just have no sense... sense of whatever... they just lack the skill "sense"... u know, u're sitting 3 people having a conversation, and the kid breaks in, totally out of porpotion, and says something completely out of topic... no sense... i dont really know what to say... other than ive never spoken with ganja after that... oh, not true... i said thanks for him posting link to chaos IRC chat... but thats it... and just to add to my picture... [04:26] <Ganja> make me more famous a little kid with no sense, and the need of extraordinary attention... in my eyes, wich are unimportant to ganja, he is the pest... THE pest.... Tank CEO is just oceans better... oh, and how the hell he ended up in Space Invaders, im never going to understand... unless.... they feel he belongs there ? cause he sure as hell doesnt have any grain of personality like DM or indegio(im very not sure of his exact name, but he posts so lovely and fair) after seiing Ganja & SI under the same face, i can only say, i fear SI even more than yesterday Wow, getting your feathers a bit ruffled aren't we? That whole chat was back when I had no EVE, true, and when I said some friendly pieces to cairnz; thats why I got banned. And I remember the discussion, wheither or not you could make it seem you were cloaked all the time via editing clientside files. Moron 1 was OwlManAtt, and Moron 2 was.. don't remember. Anyways, to null that WHOLE conversation, what you do clientside (in regards to changing textures etc) can only be seen clientside. That means no one else see's the change in what you did.. I'm glad you practicly wrote an essay on someone you haven't gotten the chance to know. :) ta Quote: Thanks for the warning MOOstradamus , I think we should all show are displeasure with Ganjas lame tactics by never buying anything he tries to sell again Oh ah.. and to think I have 6-7 more apocs in the oven. Do you really think people will stop buying from someone just because their a pirate? If I'm selling apocs cheaper then the legit people, who would you buy from? Quote: I lub Ganja awww Quote:** Maybe it's fun for me to get people like Ganja banned from the game TomB watches me closely it seems. As does Arkanon from time to time.. I think if I were a sploiter TomB would have flogged me a long time ago. I doubt I would get banned for the escrow missions, much less any other type of scam. If they do that, then they'd have to go after every other scammer.. too much work for no real offense. I guess at times I wonder why I do this too. I mean, I'm just days away from buying a Tempest BP Original.. you'd think I'd be pleased with the money I have. If only us damn pirates knew when to stop. Oh, and Lian. I understood girl, and I am sorry.

Cao Cao	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:17:00 - [41] Quote: It has crap all to do with smarts and all about choices, Ganja choose to be a muppet by scamming I choose not to, not because I can't figure out how it's done, it's just beneath me, somewhere around the level of tricking the mentally retarded into doing my gardenwork... You know, real life scams are very immoral and bad. I mean, you're playing with people's LIVES when you do it IRL. Like this guy I had to write about one time who scammed the Social Security Administration out of $750,000. That's BAD. Ditto with the people who hold themselves out as business consultants to recent immigrants but actually have absolutely no qualifications. They are scammers, and they are awful horrible people. They ruin people's lives and make us lawyers get involved. Which is always bad. However... ********** N E W S F L A S H ********** THIS IS A GAME! When you scam somebody in this game, it doesn't affect (or shouldn't affect) their real life at all! IT IS A GODDAMN GAME! Why else would it be legit to "roleplay" a mass murderer or a thieving pirate, or a ... wait ... scammer? Because IT IS A GAME! OMG people seriously... Though when poor game mechanics are used to scam people they generally are fixed pretty quick ... I would expect a fix for the inspect goods window is forthcoming. Oh ya and one other thing .. I was scammed one time. I paid a $250,000 downpayment for a science lab way back when, and the guy never opened up the lab he said he was selling. Smelled like a scam to me, and by golly, it was a scam. I was half expecting it though, just really wanted that lab. Heh, and anyway I made like 10x the profit when I found out they were freeing up all the labs and factories by selling all the ones I had before anyone else knew... lol. Like 15M for my factories and 20M for my labs...lol..
Ganja	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:17:00 - [42] Oh and one last thing.. I made this comment: Quote: [04:26] <Ganja> make me more famous In regards to a comment that Alexandria Belani had made to me when she was warning me of a possible account theft.
Lianhaun	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:25:00 - [43] Oh, and Lian. I understood girl, and I am sorry. Thank you, it means alot to me Ganja. Well well, people..he might be 17 but he has the guts to say he is sorry in public. If you want to know for what? None of your business, and I dont think it should matter. And I think the entire point of this thread is that you cant expect others to play a game like you do. Just that you cant expect other people to agree that Hello Kitty is fantastic and beats transformers. This is not a hijack
Ganja	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:30:00 - [44] Quote: Hello Kitty pwns
j0sephine	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:34:00 - [45] "Just that you cant expect other people to agree that Hello Kitty is fantastic and beats transformers." ... Am so tempted to derail the thread, invoke Miso and break few puny minds, all in a single stroke, now...
Lianhaun	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:37:00 - [46] we can discuss hello kitty and tranformers when we mindlessly kill people during the frigate fest. This is not a hijack
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:38:00 - [47] ADVISORY WARNING: DO NOT CLICK LINK !! Oh what the heck ... Is this: why Hello Kitty is so great ADVISORY WARNING: DO NOT CLICK LINK !! MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
j0sephine	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:41:00 - [48] ... leave it to moocifier to go where i didn't dare. :s (frigates and transformers give me an idea, btw. It should be possible to assemble a few frigates together in space to form special, heavy attack ships :P
Cao Cao	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:43:00 - [49] OMG ... Hello Kitty?? Are you NUTS? Transformers is the best cartoon ever ... omfgomfg....u ppl r crazy.
scouting	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:45:00 - [50] Quote: Though when poor game mechanics are used to scam people they generally are fixed pretty quick ... I would expect a fix for the inspect goods window is forthcoming. so are you saying its ok to use the grid exploit for kills until it is fixed? after all, its in the game --------------------------------------- Last nights patch, was, without doubt, the worst ever. Rest assured that I was on the forum within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world.

Code404	Posted - 2004.01.03 18:59:00 - [51] Quote: u just wish u had the money.......scams r in cuz well ...u can still do em....... hammer, nail, head... Couldn't have said it better, saddly, this is a great way to get wealth fast...and since it is a 'feature' built in to the game, I say DO IT!
cypriss	Posted - 2004.01.03 19:46:00 - [52] Quote: you see nullperson?, the thing about scams is... Quote: edited out bad stuff -Eris Discordia ROFL that little edit made my post sound so * anyway, sure there may be scams in game and sure it may be the way of a pirate. but when the scam involves poor game mechanics then it is bullst. selling a cruiser in guise as a BS is kind of like selling swampland in florida, but knowing that bpc runs will be hidden by game mechanics and screwing people over that way, is crap. the window should open fully, but many don't know that it doesn't. i called these poons morons because of this quote Quote: If someone hasn't got the required braincells (usually only having one will do) to avoid being scammed then they deserve all the misery they bring upon themselves. no one DESERVES to lose money to a scam that involves lack of knowledge to game mechanics and being scammed by poor game mechanics doesn't make you a moron.
Zarquon Beeblebrox	Posted - 2004.01.03 20:04:00 - [53] Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 04/01/2004 03:16:12 Ganja im not pointing out your age from you beeing a pirate or scaming. Its from how you argue, and the silly points you made in the first of your replyes -- Lady Beeblebrox Teddybears movies
Code404	Posted - 2004.01.03 20:07:00 - [54] I notice CaoCao is against this money making tools feature of hiding the info. I have to wonder, how is this any different then camping JIP's before caster, and ganking noobs that "didn't know better" then to use autopilot without checking the route it sets?? Biomass has shown that "taking advantage" of a poor game mechanic is just part of the game and until players are banned for it each time it is done, it WILL be allowed!
Deadflip2	Posted - 2004.01.03 20:39:00 - [55] Quote: I've bought bpcs from Ganja! They all work very well! I have no complaints! I use them as... TOILET PAPER! And if you fall for a scam, its your fault for not being more careful. Dont blame anyone for being smart. I've been scammed on one occasion too, kudos to the guy for coming up with such a creative scam (It was very good ) and I wont fall for it again! No need to act like an idiot when you make a stupid mistake "that voice.... THAT VOICE!!! " --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!!
KrapYl	Posted - 2004.01.03 20:39:00 - [56] yeah ganja, :) thats the same thing u said back then hehe.. it doesnt matter as its only on ur client... so me visible cloaked textures are just tandy fandy, cause im the only one who can see cloaked ships did u honestly believe that i had the idea, u where cloaking all the ships on ur screen ? LMAO and at last... i can see i maybe was a way bit out of line, but its the truth for me... i do know why ur SI... cause u can be a nice guy... if only u want to Sorry(but anyhow u turn it, ur selling nothing for 8 mill a pop)
Leitari	Posted - 2004.01.03 21:59:00 - [57] omg nooooo He-Man RULES Here, Only the silent survive.
Sabahl	Posted - 2004.01.03 22:13:00 - [58] Quote: Who cares if he is scamming or not? Scamming is part of the game. Scamming is only part of the game because CCP are either too lazy or too incompetent to code in sa***uards to prevent it.
Slinky Redfoot	Posted - 2004.01.03 23:10:00 - [59] Quote: Quote: Who cares if he is scamming or not? Scamming is part of the game. Scamming is only part of the game because CCP are either too lazy or too incompetent to code in sa***uards to prevent it. Actually trade and 'display' or 'distraction' scams are in almost every MMORPG. EQ, DAoC, UO.. the problem is, you can't patch human stupidity. Got Banana?
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2004.01.03 23:36:00 - [60] Quote: .. the problem is, you can't patch human stupidity. Siggy material . _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.



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