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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2004.01.03 04:45:00 -
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Please follow the advice detailed in: to avoid instances such as the following ...
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[04:17] <Ganja> im up 16m
[04:17] <Ganja> i guess someone bought 2 0runs
[04:17] <Ganja> har har
[04:25] <Ganja> heh yup
[04:25] <Ganja> someone bought 2 escrow missions
[04:25] <Ganja> pwned
[04:26] * moocifer is thinking about posting a Ganja warning thread on the boards ...
[04:26] <Ganja> moocifer
[04:26] <Ganja> yes
[04:26] <Ganja> make me more famous
[04:26] <Ganja> harrr
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.01.03 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: Ganja on 03/01/2004 04:51:17
*snickers*
Only morons fall for the scams anyways.. the deserve to lose their 8m+.
Any respecting intelligent doofus knows to "stretch" the box to see the amazing ME, PE, oh and.. RUNS..
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(23:48:39) (Ganja) why did you post it in general moocifer
(23:48:41) (Ganja) stupid pansy
(23:48:48) (Ganja) suppose to go in crime & punishment
(23:48:49) (Ganja) fool
(23:49:05) (@moocifer) I thought you wanted publicity
(23:49:28) (Ganja) sure yeah
(23:49:28) (@moocifer) and not just a pat on the back from other pirates ...
(23:49:41) (Ganja) not that, just isn't the right place for it
(23:49:41) (@moocifer) hence GENERAL
(23:49:45) (Ganja) every idiot is in general
(23:49:48) (Ganja) thats like
(23:49:48) (@moocifer) yes
(23:49:49) (Ganja) my profit
(23:49:52) (@moocifer) yes
(23:50:00) (Ganja) no peon-age for you!
(23:50:05) (@moocifer) you betrayer !!
(23:50:10) (Ganja) you dumbass !!
(23:50:14) (Ganja) :P
(23:50:21) (@moocifer) you scambastage !!
(23:50:27) (Ganja) thanks
(23:50:30) (@moocifer) welcoem :)
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2004.01.03 05:05:00 -
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i bought them all.... i just want to support ganja....
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Hippey
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Posted - 2004.01.03 05:37:00 -
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Ganja is just smart enough to abuse a stupid design flaw. Why the hell would you ever be allowed to make a 0 run bpc? Why would THAT ever be used?
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.01.03 06:42:00 -
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Ganja is just smart enough to abuse a stupid design flaw. Why the hell would you ever be allowed to make a 0 run bpc? Why would THAT ever be used?
Very true.. you'd think it would just dissapear..
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cypriss
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Posted - 2004.01.03 06:48:00 -
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i like to keep in game and RL separate, but by his response..
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Only morons fall for the scams anyways.. the deserve to lose their 8m+.
ganja sounds pathetic and i know he would give me the creeps irl and i would hold on to my wallet a little tighter.
i can appreciate legitamate pirating in game. but scam artists are the only morons...not their victims.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.03 07:08:00 -
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Haha. I've had so many people try (unsuccessfully) to scam me ... you just gotta cover your bases. Lol.
The first time was when some d00d was selling me a moa. He traded me a griffin, as if I wouldn't notice.
The second time was a 0 run BPC ... lol again. And twice I've had people try to pay me like 5,000,000 for a ship instead of 50,000,000. That is, until they included the commas in the number 
With those tiny numbers... if you aren't careful, 5000000 might as well be 50000000.
Anyway ya the BP should disappear lol.
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cypriss
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Posted - 2004.01.03 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: cypriss on 03/01/2004 07:22:25
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If someone hasn't got the required braincells (usually only having one will do) to avoid being scammed then they deserve all the misery they bring upon themselves.
you see person?, the thing about scams is that they are tricks that rely on a lack of knowledge about a particular part of the game, not a lack of brain cells. i'm sure not even the almighty brainic yourself knows every aspect of this game. unless of course you wrote the code. so the fact that someone didn't know that the 'escrow' window does not open fully, doesn't make him stupid or hint to the amt of brain cells he may have.
edit: oh and btw, i have not been scammed to date. because i don't trust the little pukes like you, like cao cao, im a little leary on any trade
edited out bad stuff -Eris Discordia
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.01.03 07:38:00 -
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Agreed, ganja you must be pritty young to make such a statement. OR you are defending an action you self know is wrong.
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Teddybears movies
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SYCO
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Posted - 2004.01.03 07:41:00 -
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u just wish u had the money.......scams r in cuz well ...u can still do em.......
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Ajari Joan
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Posted - 2004.01.03 08:34:00 -
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*giving cypriss some backup 
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.01.03 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: KrapYl on 03/01/2004 08:50:50
there is nothing u can do about a boy like Ganja... i remember once when he hanged around #eve-online(wich he allways do, its his place to say goodmorning), he asked me about making some danish "storys" on Ganja's site www.eve-db.com... at first i was all game... but day after i saw him making people send him game files, so he could change textures of the game... he made a flying ***** punisher etc... and posted the link in #eve-online, i remember ther was a wild discussing wether or not it was a bannable offence to "change" the files in the game(i.e. hacking the game)... and he just said "i dont own the game, you cant ban me at all"... but the link got him banned for a period on #eve-online(IRC)... i remember how gloating he was, and how far from mature he acted on it...
now, its not bad changin textures... but if u could somehow(i have no real knowledge here, and ganja is probably going to pull my post apart ) could change the texture for cloaking......
though, last time i ran logserver for a bugreport, i noticed that during login, there is alot of CRC checking, of even sounds... so i dont know its even still possible to change the files...
Ganja seems to me, most like the little young kids from my neighbourhood, that are so ******* dumb, and absolutly clueless, that i just have to hit them constantly... they just have no sense... sense of whatever... they just lack the skill "sense"... u know, u're sitting 3 people having a conversation, and the kid breaks in, totally out of porpotion, and says something completely out of topic... no sense...
i dont really know what to say... other than ive never spoken with ganja after that... oh, not true... i said thanks for him posting link to chaos IRC chat... but thats it...
and just to add to my picture...
[04:26] <Ganja> make me more famous
a little kid with no sense, and the need of extraordinary attention...
in my eyes, wich are unimportant to ganja, he is the pest... THE pest.... Tank CEO is just oceans better...
oh, and how the hell he ended up in Space Invaders, im never going to understand... unless.... they feel he belongs there ?
cause he sure as hell doesnt have any grain of personality like DM or indegio(im very not sure of his exact name, but he posts so lovely and fair)
after seiing Ganja & SI under the same face, i can only say, i fear SI even more than yesterday 
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2004.01.03 08:45:00 -
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you dont make a 0 run bp... just use a 1 run bp and it becomes a 0 run and worthless...
They should make the bp self destruct when this happens to stop idiots abusing them.
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<Stavros> the first motor bike i ever rode
<Stavros> was a honda gold wing
<Ak-Gara> hah
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Samsson
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Posted - 2004.01.03 11:04:00 -
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Thanks for the warning MOOstradamus , I think we should all show are displeasure with Ganjas lame tactics by never buying anything he tries to sell again
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.03 11:06:00 -
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I've bought bpcs from Ganja! They all work very well! I have no complaints! I use them as... TOILET PAPER! 
And if you fall for a scam, its your fault for not being more careful. Dont blame anyone for being smart. I've been scammed on one occasion too, kudos to the guy for coming up with such a creative scam (It was very good ) and I wont fall for it again! No need to act like an idiot when you make a stupid mistake
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.01.03 11:12:00 -
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"Any respecting intelligent doofus knows to "stretch" the box to see the amazing ME, PE, oh and.. RUNS.."
Well I don't consider myself a moron but I certainly couldn't find a way to check the runs when inspecting a escrow BP. In fact it simply doesn't show anything except "type bp".
Maybe the changed it.
Infinity
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Fountain Goddess
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Posted - 2004.01.03 11:30:00 -
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I lub Ganja
Alt of Omniwar
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.03 12:17:00 -
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It has crap all to do with smarts and all about choices, Ganja choose to be a muppet by scamming I choose not to, not because I can't figure out how it's done, it's just beneath me, somewhere around the level of tricking the mentally retarded into doing my gardenwork...
Convert Stations
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2004.01.03 13:43:00 -
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"Any respecting intelligent doofus knows to "stretch" the box to see the amazing ME, PE, oh and.. RUNS.."
Well I don't consider myself a moron but I certainly couldn't find a way to check the runs when inspecting a escrow BP. In fact it simply doesn't show anything except "type bp".
Maybe the changed it.
Infinity
Inspect goods, increase window size.
Don't show info.
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.01.03 14:02:00 -
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I dont see what would be wrong with retexturing ships in EVE really...
You see, the textures only change on your computer, so it doesnt matter cause noone else sees your textures..
So if you make all your ships cloaked youl be the only one not seeying any ships ;)
If ganja got banned for changing textures in EVE then they better ban me really fast since ive changed models and stuff in EVE =P
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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voogru
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Posted - 2004.01.03 14:24:00 -
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Disabling the "cloak" effect client side is impossible.
Mainly, because once they are fully cloaked the server no longer sends the data of that player to the clients.
Least thats what I would hope that they do.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.01.03 15:52:00 -
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wow a personal flame to drive home your point. Except for one detail, YOU HAVE NONE!
if people are too stupid to check or do any sort of background info or the item they are buying/trading or learn about the game mechanics that will directly affect them then they deserve all they get when it goes wrong. FFS all people do nowadays is tirelessly try to shift blame or hold others accountable for THEIR stupidity.
If I'm buying a ship I make DAMN SURE I'm getting the correct ship or if I'm selling something I'm getting the RIGHT MONEY. If I fail to do these checks then it's MY fault. Having a go at the scammer is just bitter nonsense.
Having sold shuttles for 10mil each I can't tell you how much I laugh my arse off at the moron who couldn't be bothered to check his purchase first
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.03 15:59:00 -
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Who cares if he is scamming or not?
Scamming is part of the game.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Agent 6
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Posted - 2004.01.03 16:05:00 -
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yeah scammers are hero's...
i especially like real life scammers, the ones who scam old people of their savings..
builders who scam people for work they didnt do/needed..etc
its all good
morals/dignity/honour....who needs it
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.03 16:09:00 -
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What bearing captain Obvious?
It's not so much it being there as to brand the corporations condoning its members using this to earn their money.
Hopefully this game will move more towards politics than just the ordinary mob rule of capped up fraghags on softdrinks.
Convert Stations
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.01.03 16:09:00 -
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Pretty naive view.
Yes, it's wrong.
Yes, it's allowed.
That's all that matters.
It doesn't make Ganja an immature ****head.
He may well be an immature ****head but he's rp'ing the role of a pirate/scammer/guy you wouldn't take home to meet the parents.
Christ.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.01.03 16:29:00 -
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yeah scammers are hero's...
i especially like real life scammers, the ones who scam old people of their savings..
builders who scam people for work they didnt do/needed..etc
its all good
morals/dignity/honour....who needs it
OMG yes...
We should all strip the hide off ganja and throw him in a salt solution for scamming virtual money off obviously not so attentive to detail builders and manufacturing corps who make millions of isk a day IN A DAMN GAME!
You need get your head examined if you compare what ganja does do scamming old people out of their savings
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.03 16:48:00 -
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Ah, the infamous 'only a game' defense, if it's only a game why is getting this money so important then that scams are needed? 
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.01.03 16:56:00 -
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Ah, the infamous 'only a game' defense, if it's only a game why is getting this money so important then that scams are needed?
you haven't got a clue really have you 
Some people enjoy geting easy money through scams, that's the whole point of a game, to enjoy it, isn't it?
So the method doesn't conform to YOUR high and mighty moral outlook on how this game should be played, uhm, who cares?? just be quiet and play the game how YOU want to instead of busying yourself in other peoples affairs.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.03 17:00:00 -
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please keep it friendly from now on
thank you 
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.03 17:12:00 -
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Maybe it's fun for me to get people like Ganja banned from the game, maybe that's my game, I could be just that much of a lowlife, it's possible, we've seen those around here...
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2004.01.03 17:21:00 -
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Some people enjoy geting easy money through scams, that's the whole point of a game, to enjoy it, isn't it?
yup just like those who enjoy easy kills from abusing the game mechanics.
its part of the game, but they are still people
friendly! -Eris Discordia
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.01.03 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 03/01/2004 17:27:02
Eris, are the people RPing evil murdering scumbags, aka pirates, allowed to keep it unfriendly, since that's just rp?
Oh, and scamming=legit .
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.03 17:43:00 -
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Since when did piracy have to be 'evil'?
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.01.03 17:50:00 -
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Since when did piracy have to be 'evil'?
Since we killed you for fun, stole your cargo and sank your most prized possession (ship).
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.01.03 17:50:00 -
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You cant expect people to play the game like you do. And if you know they dont, then stop interacting with them.
Personally I had my own dealings with Ganja, and it might sadden me that he falls ( in my eyes) to understand my point of view. But there isn't much I can do about it.
I do think that it goes to far to assume things about how he is in real life, in my experience people act different in and outgame.
This is not a hijack
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 03/01/2004 18:04:28
It's a sad state indeed, pirates like Stavrosboy up here doesn't deserve any respect from the community and in my eyes they only get it in its unrefined form 'cause there will always be a few bendover boys giving it all up for candy.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:08:00 -
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"So the method doesn't conform to YOUR high and mighty moral outlook on how this game should be played, uhm, who cares?? just be quiet and play the game how YOU want to instead of busying yourself in other peoples affairs."
... Aren't you climbing on the "everyone is entitled to play how they like as long as it conforms to my idea of how they should play" high horse yourself?
If they want to make a thread on game forum about someone's in-game practices, they should be free to do so by your own standards, if you actually mean what you're saying. You are in no position of authority to tell them to 'be quiet and play'...
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:13:00 -
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If people on this forums and in this game. Was just a litle more focused on making the game more fun for _your fellow player_ rather then only focusing on making the game fun for usself. Then we all could have more fun and im sure the tone in wich we speak to each other would be ten times more polite.
There was a thread earlyer about EVE players ages. Reading that dont fith in to how people act in game and boards.
I would like to ask as many of you to read some about netiquet (damn spellings)
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Lady Beeblebrox
Teddybears movies
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:15:00 -
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ganja sounds pathetic
Your entitled to your opinion..
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Agreed, ganja you must be pritty young to make such a statement. OR you are defending an action you self know is wrong.
Well, yes, I guess I am young. A mere 17 to be honest, but then if I weren't a pirate you wouldn't have assumed such a thing. Yes I know scamming is wrong, but like so many have said, its part of the game. I'm a pirate, do you expect me to play nice?
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there is nothing u can do about a boy like Ganja... i remember once when he hanged around #eve-online(wich he allways do, its his place to say goodmorning), he asked me about making some danish "storys" on Ganja's site www.eve-db.com... at first i was all game... but day after i saw him making people send him game files, so he could change textures of the game... he made a flying ***** punisher etc... and posted the link in #eve-online, i remember ther was a wild discussing wether or not it was a bannable offence to "change" the files in the game(i.e. hacking the game)... and he just said "i dont own the game, you cant ban me at all"... but the link got him banned for a period on #eve-online(IRC)... i remember how gloating he was, and how far from mature he acted on it...
now, its not bad changin textures... but if u could somehow(i have no real knowledge here, and ganja is probably going to pull my post apart) could change the texture for cloaking......
though, last time i ran logserver for a bugreport, i noticed that during login, there is alot of CRC checking, of even sounds... so i dont know its even still possible to change the files...
Ganja seems to me, most like the little young kids from my neighbourhood, that are so ******* dumb, and absolutly clueless, that i just have to hit them constantly... they just have no sense... sense of whatever... they just lack the skill "sense"... u know, u're sitting 3 people having a conversation, and the kid breaks in, totally out of porpotion, and says something completely out of topic... no sense...
i dont really know what to say... other than ive never spoken with ganja after that... oh, not true... i said thanks for him posting link to chaos IRC chat... but thats it...
and just to add to my picture...
[04:26] <Ganja> make me more famous
a little kid with no sense, and the need of extraordinary attention...
in my eyes, wich are unimportant to ganja, he is the pest... THE pest.... Tank CEO is just oceans better...
oh, and how the hell he ended up in Space Invaders, im never going to understand... unless.... they feel he belongs there ?
cause he sure as hell doesnt have any grain of personality like DM or indegio(im very not sure of his exact name, but he posts so lovely and fair)
after seiing Ganja & SI under the same face, i can only say, i fear SI even more than yesterday
Wow, getting your feathers a bit ruffled aren't we? That whole chat was back when I had no EVE, true, and when I said some friendly pieces to cairnz; thats why I got banned.
And I remember the discussion, wheither or not you could make it seem you were cloaked all the time via editing clientside files. Moron 1 was OwlManAtt, and Moron 2 was.. don't remember. Anyways, to null that WHOLE conversation, what you do clientside (in regards to changing textures etc) can only be seen clientside. That means no one else see's the change in what you did..
I'm glad you practicly wrote an essay on someone you haven't gotten the chance to know. :) ta
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Thanks for the warning MOOstradamus , I think we should all show are displeasure with Ganjas lame tactics by never buying anything he tries to sell again
Oh ****ah.. and to think I have 6-7 more apocs in the oven. Do you really think people will stop buying from someone just because their a pirate? If I'm selling apocs cheaper then the legit people, who would you buy from?
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I lub Ganja
awww
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Maybe it's fun for me to get people like Ganja banned from the game
TomB watches me closely it seems. As does Arkanon from time to time.. I think if I were a sploiter TomB would have flogged me a long time ago. I doubt I would get banned for the escrow missions, much less any other type of scam. If they do that, then they'd have to go after every other scammer.. too much work for no real offense.
I guess at times I wonder why I do this too. I mean, I'm just days away from buying a Tempest BP Original.. you'd think I'd be pleased with the money I have.
If only us damn pirates knew when to stop.
Oh, and Lian. I understood girl, and I am sorry.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:17:00 -
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It has crap all to do with smarts and all about choices, Ganja choose to be a muppet by scamming I choose not to, not because I can't figure out how it's done, it's just beneath me, somewhere around the level of tricking the mentally retarded into doing my gardenwork...
You know, real life scams are very immoral and bad. I mean, you're playing with people's LIVES when you do it IRL. Like this guy I had to write about one time who scammed the Social Security Administration out of $750,000. That's BAD. Ditto with the people who hold themselves out as business consultants to recent immigrants but actually have absolutely no qualifications.
They are scammers, and they are awful horrible people. They ruin people's lives and make us lawyers get involved. Which is always bad. However...
********** N E W S F L A S H **********
THIS IS A GAME! When you scam somebody in this game, it doesn't affect (or shouldn't affect) their real life at all! IT IS A GODDAMN GAME! Why else would it be legit to "roleplay" a mass murderer or a thieving pirate, or a ... wait ... scammer? Because IT IS A GAME!
OMG people seriously...
Though when poor game mechanics are used to scam people they generally are fixed pretty quick ... I would expect a fix for the inspect goods window is forthcoming.
Oh ya and one other thing .. I was scammed one time. I paid a $250,000 downpayment for a science lab way back when, and the guy never opened up the lab he said he was selling. Smelled like a scam to me, and by golly, it was a scam. I was half expecting it though, just really wanted that lab. Heh, and anyway I made like 10x the profit when I found out they were freeing up all the labs and factories by selling all the ones I had before anyone else knew... lol. Like 15M for my factories and 20M for my labs...lol..
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:17:00 -
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Oh and one last thing..
I made this comment:
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[04:26] <Ganja> make me more famous
In regards to a comment that Alexandria Belani had made to me when she was warning me of a possible account theft.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:25:00 -
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Oh, and Lian. I understood girl, and I am sorry.
Thank you, it means alot to me Ganja.
Well well, people..he might be 17 but he has the guts to say he is sorry in public. If you want to know for what? None of your business, and I dont think it should matter.
And I think the entire point of this thread is that you cant expect others to play a game like you do. Just that you cant expect other people to agree that Hello Kitty is fantastic and beats transformers.
This is not a hijack
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:30:00 -
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Hello Kitty
pwns
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:34:00 -
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"Just that you cant expect other people to agree that Hello Kitty is fantastic and beats transformers."
... Am so tempted to derail the thread, invoke Miso and break few puny minds, all in a single stroke, now...
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:37:00 -
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we can discuss hello kitty and tranformers when we mindlessly kill people during the frigate fest.
This is not a hijack
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:38:00 -
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*ADVISORY WARNING: DO NOT CLICK LINK !!*
Oh what the heck ...
Is this:  why Hello Kitty is so great 
*ADVISORY WARNING: DO NOT CLICK LINK !!*
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:41:00 -
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... leave it to moocifier to go where i didn't dare. :s
(frigates and transformers give me an idea, btw. It should be possible to assemble a few frigates together in space to form special, heavy attack ships :P
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:43:00 -
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OMG ... Hello Kitty?? Are you NUTS? Transformers is the best cartoon ever ... omfgomfg....u ppl r crazy.
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scouting
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:45:00 -
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Though when poor game mechanics are used to scam people they generally are fixed pretty quick ... I would expect a fix for the inspect goods window is forthcoming.
so are you saying its ok to use the grid exploit for kills until it is fixed?
after all, its in the game
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Code404
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Posted - 2004.01.03 18:59:00 -
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u just wish u had the money.......scams r in cuz well ...u can still do em.......
hammer, nail, head...
Couldn't have said it better,
saddly, this is a great way to get wealth fast...and since it is a 'feature' built in to the game, I say DO IT!
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cypriss
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Posted - 2004.01.03 19:46:00 -
[52]
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you see nullperson?, the thing about scams is...
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edited out bad stuff -Eris Discordia
ROFL that little edit made my post sound so ***
anyway, sure there may be scams in game and sure it may be the way of a pirate. but when the scam involves poor game mechanics then it is bulls**t.
selling a cruiser in guise as a BS is kind of like selling swampland in florida, but knowing that bpc runs will be hidden by game mechanics and screwing people over that way, is crap. the window should open fully, but many don't know that it doesn't.
i called these poons morons because of this quote
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If someone hasn't got the required braincells (usually only having one will do) to avoid being scammed then they deserve all the misery they bring upon themselves.
no one DESERVES to lose money to a scam that involves lack of knowledge to game mechanics and being scammed by poor game mechanics doesn't make you a moron.
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.01.03 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 04/01/2004 03:16:12
Ganja im not pointing out your age from you beeing a pirate or scaming. Its from how you argue, and the silly points you made in the first of your replyes
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Teddybears movies
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Code404
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Posted - 2004.01.03 20:07:00 -
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I notice CaoCao is against this money making tools feature of hiding the info.
I have to wonder, how is this any different then camping JIP's before caster, and ganking noobs that "didn't know better" then to use autopilot without checking the route it sets??
Biomass has shown that "taking advantage" of a poor game mechanic is just part of the game and until players are banned for it each time it is done, it WILL be allowed!
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.01.03 20:39:00 -
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I've bought bpcs from Ganja! They all work very well! I have no complaints! I use them as... TOILET PAPER!
And if you fall for a scam, its your fault for not being more careful. Dont blame anyone for being smart. I've been scammed on one occasion too, kudos to the guy for coming up with such a creative scam (It was very good ) and I wont fall for it again! No need to act like an idiot when you make a stupid mistake
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2004.01.03 20:39:00 -
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yeah ganja, :) thats the same thing u said back then hehe..
it doesnt matter as its only on ur client...
so me visible cloaked textures are just tandy fandy, cause im the only one who can see cloaked ships 
did u honestly believe that i had the idea, u where cloaking all the ships on ur screen ? LMAO
and at last... i can see i maybe was a way bit out of line, but its the truth for me... i do know why ur SI... cause u can be a nice guy... if only u want to
Sorry(but anyhow u turn it, ur selling nothing for 8 mill a pop)
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.01.03 21:59:00 -
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omg nooooo He-Man RULES
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2004.01.03 22:13:00 -
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Who cares if he is scamming or not?
Scamming is part of the game.
Scamming is only part of the game because CCP are either too lazy or too incompetent to code in sa***uards to prevent it.
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2004.01.03 23:10:00 -
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Quote:
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Who cares if he is scamming or not?
Scamming is part of the game.
Scamming is only part of the game because CCP are either too lazy or too incompetent to code in sa***uards to prevent it.
Actually trade and 'display' or 'distraction' scams are in almost every MMORPG. EQ, DAoC, UO.. the problem is, you can't patch human stupidity.
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.01.03 23:36:00 -
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.. the problem is, you can't patch human stupidity.
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.01.04 02:01:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
u just wish u had the money.......scams r in cuz well ...u can still do em.......
hammer, nail, head...
Couldn't have said it better,
saddly, this is a great way to get wealth fast...and since it is a 'feature' built in to the game, I say DO IT!
Hmm.. yes.. extremely fast wealth. I gained enough minerals to build 13 Apocs in a single trade.. nothing lost on my end.
*skips off to build another batch of Scamapocs*
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2004.01.04 03:55:00 -
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*skips off to build another batch of Scamapocs*
You were in the Championships, too? 
WTS: Imperial Apocs.. 7 left in stock..
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.01.04 04:02:00 -
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Quote:
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*skips off to build another batch of Scamapocs*
You were in the Championships, too?
WTS: Imperial Apocs.. 7 left in stock..
Your an idiot ripping off a joke you know nothing about :P
Scamapocs are my special custom built apocs from minerals that I made off a giant freaking scam that guarunteed my forever wealth in EVE.
Has nothing to do with the lame championships for Amarrian scum.
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Code404
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Posted - 2004.01.04 05:48:00 -
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It has crap all to do with smarts and all about choices, Ganja choose to be a muppet by scamming I choose not to, not because I can't figure out how it's done, it's just beneath me, somewhere around the level of tricking the mentally retarded into doing my gardenwork...
You know, real life scams are very immoral and bad. I mean, you're playing with people's LIVES when you do it IRL. Like this guy I had to write about one time who scammed the Social Security Administration out of $750,000. That's BAD. Ditto with the people who hold themselves out as business consultants to recent immigrants but actually have absolutely no qualifications.
They are scammers, and they are awful horrible people. They ruin people's lives and make us lawyers get involved. Which is always bad. However...
********** N E W S F L A S H **********
THIS IS A GAME! When you scam somebody in this game, it doesn't affect (or shouldn't affect) their real life at all! IT IS A GODDAMN GAME! Why else would it be legit to "roleplay" a mass murderer or a thieving pirate, or a ... wait ... scammer? Because IT IS A GAME!
OMG people seriously...
Though when poor game mechanics are used to scam people they generally are fixed pretty quick ... I would expect a fix for the inspect goods window is forthcoming.
Oh ya and one other thing .. I was scammed one time. I paid a $250,000 downpayment for a science lab way back when, and the guy never opened up the lab he said he was selling. Smelled like a scam to me, and by golly, it was a scam. I was half expecting it though, just really wanted that lab. Heh, and anyway I made like 10x the profit when I found out they were freeing up all the labs and factories by selling all the ones I had before anyone else knew... lol. Like 15M for my factories and 20M for my labs...lol..
********NEWSFLASH********
Moral behavior is not restricted to REAL LIFE. If it's wrong, it's wrong. Many are "above" acting as such. (it's from being EVOLVED)
Smile it makes people wonder what you're up too.
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SpeedoMan
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Posted - 2004.01.04 10:28:00 -
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You deserve to be banned, even if for your attitude alone. What, is bragging about your scams now the newest compensation for small ****s? The only reason why you and your ilk still have accounts is because CCP is entirely inept and unwilling to do anything about players that exploit their unfinished shell of a game. More than that, they act like it's cute or funny half the time.
sod off
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.01.04 11:54:00 -
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I think if a scam was possible in a real life eve universe then its okay to do it.
Would it be possible if you were at a terminal in a station looking to buy a bp that you would forget to check whether the licence had expired, unlikely because the terminal would probably display all the info without you having to learn to drag the window out but still possible.
Would it be possible to turn up to a ship hanger and buy a Maller renamed as a Dominix. Probably not because you would know instantly by size and shape etc, maybe possible if you were blind.
Would it be possible to pick up a 100,000,000,000 ton ship and switch it quickly while your buyer wasn't looking, definitely not.
I figure if it would be impossible to do in real life then its an exploit of bad game mechanics and nothing else, otherwise its fine.
Infinity
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wordy
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Posted - 2004.01.04 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: wordy on 04/01/2004 12:18:36
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THIS IS A GAME! When you scam somebody in this game, it doesn't affect (or shouldn't affect) their real life at all! IT IS A GODDAMN GAME! Why else would it be legit to "roleplay" a mass murderer or a thieving pirate, or a ... wait ... scammer? Because IT IS A GAME!
How long does it take someone in a cruiser mining/hunting to get the needed isk for an apoc?, for them to have to be ripped off for all their isk and wasted RL time. Do you seriously think that they shouldn't get mad?
People get upset with ingame scams beacause it DOES effect their real life, it took that person along time in RL to accquire thier isk ingame. The isk just didn't appear in their wallet, they have to spend RL time ingame to earn it.
"Hey, I am cool. My mum said so!" - Milhouse Van Houten
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Georg Inekn
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Posted - 2004.01.04 15:17:00 -
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Hey, I'm a scumbag in-game, I RP it, whatever.
This BP scam is just low. It's an exploit--abusing a factor of the game mechanics to win an unfair advantage.
This is the same guy that has been extracting all the textures and market data and everything, right? Devs should just ban him. Enough, already.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.04 15:51:00 -
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Obviously you can since its only in almost all the games.
Convert Stations
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Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2004.02.03 22:58:00 -
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*Grrrs*
Obviously deceit is part of the arena of play, including scams, corp theft, moles, and sabotage (Though this last is something that hasn't surfaced yet - probably waiting til POS's are more than just Secure Cans).
The -only- problem I have with the scams is the escrow fields are flinking FULL of them, some subtle, most blatantly obvious. Scams? Morelike Spams!
I did laugh at someone's feeble attempt at "TECH II PODS, DON'T MISS THIS ONE", but the lameness can only amuse so long, wading through, opening, resizing, etc, over and over again to find a legitimate ... er ... yeah, legitimate attempt at business.
These 'Confessions of a Scam Artist', while amusing, may end up flooding the bloody thing with wanna be scam artists inspired to jump on Ganja's quick-isk wagon, further diluting the usefullness of the interface.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.02.03 23:04:00 -
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And I think the entire point of this thread is that you cant expect others to play a game like you do. Just that you cant expect other people to agree that Hello Kitty is fantastic and beats transformers.
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.02.03 23:09:00 -
[72]
wtf
why did you dig this **** up?
someone lock this thread already ;d
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.02.03 23:12:00 -
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Mrissa did, and I don't pay attemtion to dates. |
Mrissa Easeah
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Posted - 2004.02.03 23:20:00 -
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Apologies if I 'brought it up', but for some reason it was at top post on the General Forum when I replied to it.
Don't ask me why. I certainly didn't go digging for it.
As to the dates, normally I check at a glance at the date, but I'm used to mm/dd/yy, not dd/mm/yy where I'm located. This early in the year, a simple "2004" has been sufficient to avoid the weird spate of 'ressurrected' posts. Plus, this isn't -that- old.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.02.03 23:44:00 -
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If it was at the top and no new post, it was because someone posted and deleted their post. The stupid forum software isn't smart enouph to handle it, lol. |
Shannon Foraker
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Posted - 2004.02.04 03:53:00 -
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I got sick of seeing Ganjas scam bps being on the forum so asked the GMs... they replied
removed the GM response -Eris Discordia
Now it's right that the information is there but to get it is very close to the click that claims the escrow... To my mind there should be a confirmation dialog like when you put an escrow up yourself.
I still think Ganja is beneath contempt for this as the only people he will scam is those who don't know much about the game and hence are "noobs" who we should help and not **** them off enough to want to quit EVE.
GM discussions are private, please do not quote them. Thank you -Eris Discordia
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Shannon Foraker
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Posted - 2004.02.04 03:55:00 -
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wtf
why did you dig this **** up?
someone lock this thread already ;d
Oh yeah and as you are still doing this crap you dont want people to know about it do you.
My advice to everyone is dont buy sod all from Ganja.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.02.04 07:29:00 -
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So much hate, he really is a nice guy underneath it all you know.
This is not a hijack
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2004.02.04 08:23:00 -
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That game looks like its gonna rock ;)
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Uxa Hali
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Posted - 2004.02.04 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Uxa Hali on 04/02/2004 12:08:00
I don't know what you posted Shannon but:
7. Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue.
You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.
Seems clear enough to me. The link to that is called Rules, which also makes sense
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.04 12:29:00 -
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These scams are due to poor game mechanics.
Calling people stupid because the interface and game mechanics are stupid is low.
Fiscal responsibility... we need it. Where is the SCC when it's services are required?
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Ganja
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Posted - 2004.02.04 15:43:00 -
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wtf
why did you dig this **** up?
someone lock this thread already ;d
Oh yeah and as you are still doing this crap you dont want people to know about it do you.
My advice to everyone is dont buy sod all from Ganja.
Oh I could care less if people knew my intentions, though I doubt 90% have no clue.
The escrows were up there to teach people - yes, I did nip a few people (i think.. 5 total?) so I made 40m isk. Big woop.. not alot.
Shall I refund? Hell no, a lesson learned is a lesson learned.
Regardless if you choose to believe me, I did what I did for more then the wrong reasons, check the post morkt made in the market, I thanked him for posting about it (its the sticky).
Like Lian said, I'm a good guy.. just someone who needs money. You can check and see - there aren't any of MY escrows besides my real ones on the market, because no one has bought a 0run in quite some time, which is a good sign.
BTW - I have 5 Apocalypse ME10 1run's in Pator on Escrow (yes, they are real).
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2004.02.04 16:31:00 -
[83]
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Edited by: Uxa Hali on 04/02/2004 12:08:00
I don't know what you posted Shannon but:
7. Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue.
You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.
Seems clear enough to me. The link to that is called Rules, which also makes sense
I only just realised I was posting with my alt... but it was me...
What I posted was some information that would have reduced uneccessary petitions but because of the silly rules of this damn game I cant even tell you what it was... so now everyone who petitions about this exploit will get the same info I did so why they hell censor it?
This is going to be the last time I attempt to help CCP because every bloody time I try to help I get crap thrown in my face.
I'm just dissapointed that CCP feel that they need to censor stuff like this. They must have one hell of a inferiority complex about this game.
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Kruppe
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Posted - 2004.02.05 12:52:00 -
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You are all pussies. I remember the same discussion from jumpgate about pirates.
The game NEEDS bad guys. without them its like playing freaking monopoly.
I pilot that builds a reputation as a con artist only ass flavor to the game. Off course I will be ****sed if he cheats me, but I would never seek to ban him for conning me.
Grow up ****s
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