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Tista
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Posted - 2007.05.07 00:30:00 -
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which is it, faction ships arn't aloud but i'm going to put my money on the geddon or abaddon
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Altrex Stoppel
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.07 00:33:00 -
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Hyperion...
 Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
That being said, the dark side actually has cookies. Fortified with vitamins A,B,D and YARR!
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.05.07 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 07/05/2007 00:33:19
Not maelstrom? Shieldboosters + crystal + CCC > armor reps + boost rigs.
edit: Thats for pure tanking though, normally CCC are replaced with falloff rigs. 
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Buraken v2
Amarr Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2007.05.07 00:42:00 -
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Hype is awesome yea.
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Marquis Dean
Energy.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 00:46:00 -
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I'd say Abaddon, if it went all out on the tank and neglected the guns. For short bursts, high resists and a dual-injected triple-rep tank ftw.
Absolution is supposed to be a hard nut to ***** too.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2007.05.07 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: NoNah on 07/05/2007 01:12:02
Definatley a shield tanker, most likely as someone said the maelstrom or the rokh...
Coming to think of it, the capital shield booster maelstrom is pretty hard to break the tank of, obviously need some cap help but still.
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.05.07 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Almasy on 07/05/2007 01:14:02
If you have the money for faction the of all thing the matar tier three, maelstrom is the best.
25% less dmg < 37.5% dmg repaired
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.07 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 07/05/2007 01:19:31
"non cap" ?
You mean passive tank? In which case the Vulture or the Nighthawk, I forget which is the better passive tank? Vulture I think.
You can setup an incredible recharge rate in a Myrmidon but it has very little shields, put enough BS fire on it and it'll pop before it can recharge. Drake is better for prolonged passive tanking against heavy fire.
edit: As you put Geddon or Abaddon in your op I guess you mean a Cap using tank, in which case probably the Maelstrom or Claymore/Sleipnir.
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Nicholai Thomasovich
Caldari
Nex Constructi
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Posted - 2007.05.07 01:27:00 -
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Nighthawk is a bit better passive tank than the Vulture due to the extra low slot.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.05.07 01:29:00 -
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estamel/x-type tanked Rokh or Scorpion.
Or maybe Maelstrom. However a Scorpion with an xl estamel sb and 3-4 bost amp and 3 estamel invuln is pretty disgusting.
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Naughty Boy
Chronics of ordinary hate
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Posted - 2007.05.07 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Naughty Boy on 07/05/2007 01:30:50
Originally by: Vincent Almasy
25% less dmg < 37.5% dmg repaired
... but 25% resistance bonus != 25% less damage, it's ~33.3% less damage taken. And if you actually believe that the boost bonus is better than the resistance bonus in most circumstances, you're in for a challenge if you'd want to backup your claims.
Now, what am I doing here 
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NoNah
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Posted - 2007.05.07 01:48:00 -
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I take it what youre coming from is that the rokh takes 75% damage, the maelstrom reps 137.5% damage. Wich in effect makes the maelstroms bonus 3.125% better, in raw numbers.
Now this is ofc not quite true, as there are quite a few more variables to it. Thing is, the question is to wierd to be asked.
I dont really know much about passive tanks, but I do know the myrmids is one of the best. Thus its one of the best tanks when it comes to cap.
If cap issnt an issue, the capital shield boosted maelstrom is the king with no comparison.
If its a pvp fitting, well, yes, I'd guess the abaddon is the king, as its one of the best armor tanks around.
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king jks
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.07 02:02:00 -
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I'd say claymore, damnation, hyperion, or abaddon. But who knows.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 02:04:00 -
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Tanking is for pussies
Originally by: Benglada
And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
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Copine Callmeknau
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.05.07 02:15:00 -
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Claymore
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Originally by: Uncle Chop Chop
Harden the **** up
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.05.07 02:17:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Almasy on 07/05/2007 02:13:34
Originally by: Naughty Boy
Edited by: Naughty Boy on 07/05/2007 01:30:50
Originally by: Vincent Almasy
25% less dmg < 37.5% dmg repaired
... but 25% resistance bonus != 25% less damage, it's ~33.3% less damage taken. And if you actually believe that the boost bonus is better than the resistance bonus in most circumstances, you're in for a challenge if you'd want to backup your claims.
Now, what am I doing here
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Graalum
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 02:23:00 -
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claymore with xl booster
clearly non-sustainable though
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Draoidh
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.05.07 03:36:00 -
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Myrmidon can be an insane passive shield tank. ~650 shield regen per second before resists. Of corse this woudl take an insane amount of isk for all the tech 2 rig and fitting plus implants.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2007.05.07 03:53:00 -
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With very very little knowledge about shield tanking, I just threw some random equipment and skills into quickfit and it spat out a tank of 2731 shield every 3,2 seconds - sustainable.
Resists are 80/92/88/84.
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Shardrael
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.07 04:49:00 -
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Edited by: Shardrael on 07/05/2007 04:46:20
I think a dual rep abaddon with tech 2 or better resists and three of the rep amount rigs is probably damn near the best non capital tank out there, getting 85% across the board is easy, might be possible to score 90+ with deadspace hardeners
add in two large reps tech 2 or better with 3 armor amount rigs and the thing is just an absolute beast,
almost certain it will out tank a hyperion, not sure about a rokh, but I know that abaddon can easily tank a carrier, fully deadspace fitted and tech 2 rigs as allowed it might even be possible to tank 2 carriers :)
rokh could prob do a little better but would eat through cap charges and or require more heavy nos, can sustain the abaddons tank with good cap skills and three or so heavy nos, which still leaves a fitting for guns
edit: btw for those that said nighthawk vulture, never flew a vulture but I know my abaddon with no rigs and less then perfect skills with just a tech 2 tank, tanks way way way better then a passive nighthawk
Originally by: Stamm
Some people might have been convinced by the official announcement posted by Steelrat, but not me, I wasn't convinced until some random alt posts a brand new thread.
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Temptation inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 04:50:00 -
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if you dont want to spend billions
then hyperion
with 3 armor rep rigs
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.07 05:35:00 -
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Vulture
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Torian Lorik
Jonosha Corp.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholai Thomasovich
Nighthawk is a bit better passive tank than the Vulture due to the extra low slot.
Errrm, except that the Vulture has higher base resists, so it might be closer than you'd think.
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Rin Eyre
Minmatar
Solar Dragon's Nest
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Posted - 2007.05.07 06:10:00 -
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3xLAR Hyperion is very dependant on incoming damage. Several BS will burn it's "so cool" 3xLAR+3xRigs tank so quikly it can barely have one cycle of reps. Dosn't matter that it reps 4.5k damage every 10 seconds if it dies in 20. Low overall resist's and "only 11k armor" is ftl.
Resists+Plate/Extender is the best option for survival "long enough". So passive shield tanks is best, after that comes active shield tanks for it's fast cycle that somewhat negates alpha or large amounts of close range damage in short time.
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Shardrael
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.07 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rin Eyre
3xLAR Hyperion is very dependant on incoming damage. Several BS will burn it's "so cool" 3xLAR+3xRigs tank so quikly it can barely have one cycle of reps. Dosn't matter that it reps 4.5k damage every 10 seconds if it dies in 20. Low overall resist's and "only 11k armor" is ftl.
Resists+Plate/Extender is the best option for survival "long enough". So passive shield tanks is best, after that comes active shield tanks for it's fast cycle that somewhat negates alpha or large amounts of close range damage in short time.
which is exactly why I think the abaddon is a better tanker then the hyp, the hyp tank is just not stable enough, when its damn hard to alpha past an abaddons tank with anything less then 15-20 bs and up until that point it will still repair like a beast with 3 rep amount rigs
Originally by: Stamm
Some people might have been convinced by the official announcement posted by Steelrat, but not me, I wasn't convinced until some random alt posts a brand new thread.
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Valandril
Caldari
Reiketsu.
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Posted - 2007.05.07 10:18:00 -
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Mael with capital shield booster + amp + cap injectors *.*
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.05.07 10:41:00 -
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I might be mistaken but I think that shield boost amp does not work on capital shield boosters. Have not tried it tho myself so take it with spoonful of salt.
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Kai Jyokoroi
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.07 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum
claymore with xl booster
clearly non-sustainable though
Oh, it is sustainable if you've got the isk 
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Gol'D Roger
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.05.07 11:33:00 -
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hmm hookbill, passive tank ab malediction ,passive astart, thous a quite good tanks but wot tanks the best , i don't know, depends on your enemy
but all passive tanks have the disadvantage of laking EW
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.05.07 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Tanking is for pussies
heh you're telling me, i run full gank fits on all my ships.. even the expensive ones :D.. makes flying them all the more fun!
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