'Off-Topic Discussions' thread. Just sayin'.

So, there was this pseudo-Naupliusist tract that I came across the other day.

Literally full of stuff like "Thou shalt not suffer the Minmatar to exist" and so on.

How about them god damn walnuts ?

I'm actually working on maybe a little bit of a rundown on Achur occult practices. It seems like trying to extract ancient wisdom from those might keep Mr. Nauplius focused on stuff that doesn't involve ... you know. For a while.

I'm actually working on maybe a little bit of a rundown on Achur occult practices. It seems like trying to extract ancient wisdom from those might keep Mr. Nauplius focused on stuff that doesn't involve ... you know. For a while.

How about them god damn walnuts ?

Thank you for not derailing my thread!

So, who are you dating lately, hun?

(Do dates have nuts?)

I'm actually working on maybe a little bit of a rundown on Achur occult practices. It seems like trying to extract ancient wisdom from those might keep Mr. Nauplius focused on stuff that doesn't involve ... you know. For a while.

Napkins, haven't you been permanently prohibited from talking to all women on the basis of being terminally creepy?

He brought me a drink the other day when I asked it of him. True he tactlessly referenced my anatomy but he has some small potential.

Not if he keeps ditching his dates because of a little harmless fun.

The fact that I ditched Ms. Raske without a word during her own party and weeks earlier had ditched one of the Shelby sisters before the party even began demonstrates that I am not as horny and desperate as some people would have you believe, even concerning some of the most smoking hot ladies in the cluster. There are certain lines of dignity and decorum that ought not to be crossed, and I have demonstrated my ability to walk away when the sin and depravity has reached unacceptable levels.

The fact that I ditched Ms. Raske without a word during her own party and weeks earlier had ditched one of the Shelby sisters before the party even began demonstrates that I am not as horny and desperate as some people would have you believe, even concerning some of the most smoking hot ladies in the cluster. There are certain lines of dignity and decorum that ought not to be crossed, and I have demonstrated my ability to walk away when the sin and depravity has reached unacceptable levels.

The caldari navy cadets dont shine their boots as well as gallante navy cadets.

So, who are you dating lately, hun?

Why anyone would ever consider dating you is beyond my understanding.

Or that you're simply so repressed that you must urgently seek privacy without delay at even the hint of something that might tantalise you.

That's from one very particular point of view, Arrendis. I'm pretty sure you know better than to think it's the only one that's meaningful. I'd be really disappointed to be mistaken about that.

Either way, I know you too well to argue you should change your position on this. For one thing, you're clever enough to be able to see perspectives you're not speaking from, and I don't really have the energy for a battle you could probably fight with yourself. For another, you'd fight me on every point whether you really believed it or not.

You already understand the difference. Or, if, strangely, you don't, Ali can probably explain it in ways you'd be reluctant to fight her over. She had me attend her meeting with Ms. Leshrac, with a sidearm. It wasn't to protect either of them, except in the most metaphorical or spiritual sense.

Some people will consider using slaves unethical. Some people will consider using slaves ethical. Some would even consider vitoc-ed slaves as ethical. It is just what our culture teaches us and there is NO single answer of whether a certain type of crewmember is ethical or not - everyone will have different opinion.

But what we can compare, it is efficiency of crewmbembers.
And efficiency of slaves on a military vessel, especially drugged ones, is lacking.

Diana, I have a question for you:



Considering your stance on sexual activity outside of procreation, isn't this a double-standard? Slavery is ok for the Amarr because it's their culture, but enjoying sex is bad, deviant, and evil no matter who you are?

Open, Oh can of worm!

I understand the difference others see in it. Just as I completely understand that there are other viewpoints and opinions on the matter.

They're wrong. They are as wrong as the people who like to claim that we're not responsible for bringing the Draifters down on our own heads. I still fully support blowing them all to hel because it's us or them, but make no mistake: we did that to ourselves, now we've got to wipe out the nornets' nest we kicked over.

So yes, there's plenty of different viewpoints about this. Mine is: a group of maniacs from one island wrote a book to justify wanton slavery and bloodshed in order to advance and expand their own power. Their descendents continued to use that book that conveniently said they were uniquely authorized to murder and enslave people... to murder and enslave people until they controlled their entire planet. They obliterated by force and cultural 'violation' every other nation and way of life on that world.

Then they spread their cancer to the stars. And they continued to tell everyone else they had two choices: either be killed or enslaved by force, and have their own unique cultures brutally sodomized into extinction, or agree in the total and perfect divine rightness of a book that says the Amarr get to kill and enslave anyone in the name of culturally sodomizing them until they give in and agree with the book.

Do it at gunpoint, or we'll shoot you and torture your kids until they do it.

And none of the other opinions, none of the other viewpoints, can alter those simple truths. That's what happened. That's what's continuing to be done to every still-enslaved lineage in the Empire. Anyone who says otherwise is either wrong... or a liar.

That's really all there is to it, Aria.

It seems to me that one of the most dangerous sentiments in this cluster is, "It can't be worse." It's really, really rare for that thought to be true.

Only, Arrendis, whether what the Amarr did and/or do is awful wasn't the question. The question was whether there's no meaningful difference between them and the Sani Sabik, whose collective reaction to such a sentiment, should they get the chance, would kind of boil down to, "Challenge accepted!"

The fact that Sani Sabik seems to be basically the Amarrian error state is at the heart of me really not wanting to see the Empire fall even if that were a possible thing. The likely fallout from that would be....

It seems to me that one of the most dangerous sentiments in this cluster is, "It can't be worse." It's really, really rare for that thought to be true.