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Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
1041
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Posted - 2017.05.31 15:52:10 -
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Trust and Secrets. They form somewhat of a paradoxical juxtaposition. We tend to only tell secrets to whom we trust, yet it can be hard to trust someone who keeps secrets.
Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation
Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate
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Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
424
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Posted - 2017.05.31 16:20:49 -
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Che Biko wrote:Trust and Secrets. They form somewhat of a paradoxical juxtaposition. We tend to only tell secrets to whom we trust, yet it can be hard to trust someone who keeps secrets. Well, if they keep secrets, at the very least you know they can be trusted with such. |
Jev North
Anshar Incorporated Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
1053
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Posted - 2017.05.31 16:40:43 -
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People who tell you secrets will tell yours to others as well, people who keep juicy secrets from you are just plain mean; and that's why I'm a misanthrope at heart.
Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.
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Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
426
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Posted - 2017.05.31 16:51:34 -
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Jev North wrote:People who tell you secrets will tell yours to others as well, but people who keep juicy secrets from you are just plain mean; and there's one reason why I'm a misanthrope at heart, I guess. You don't like sharing secrets? |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3948
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Posted - 2017.06.01 13:45:28 -
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Arrendis wrote:Diana Kim wrote:I am glad I am not Sani Sabik then.
LONG LIVE THE STATE! FOR HONOR AND GLORY! CHARGE! You're about a 'lemme drink they're blood' away from it. And if 'they' are Gallente, I'm not even sure you haven't done that.
Although her views are a little, uh, "fringe," Ms. Kim's not actually unique or even very unusual in that.
At a glance, it can actually be a little hard to find daylight between the Caldari outlook and the Sani Sabik, unless you look at it from the right angle: both groups seem to see the world as a kind of howling wilderness where only the strong survive, and so end up a little obsessive about strength.
There is a bright line, though: the Caldari, in the end, are about individual strength as a necessary ingredient in community strength-- and part of individual strength is knowing when you're becoming a burden on the community and it's time to take that long walk in the snow.
The Sani Sabik seem to be more about personal power, and typically aspire to live forever even at the expense of ... well, everybody. It used to be that just meant eternal spiritual life, but, now, with cloning, I guess that's changing a little in places.
The only thing the Caldari are aiming to make immortal is the Caldari. Individuals are expendable, as long as the whole moves on.
"The Winds care for us, not for you or me." |
Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
442
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Posted - 2017.06.01 14:15:41 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Arrendis wrote:Diana Kim wrote:I am glad I am not Sani Sabik then.
LONG LIVE THE STATE! FOR HONOR AND GLORY! CHARGE! You're about a 'lemme drink they're blood' away from it. And if 'they' are Gallente, I'm not even sure you haven't done that. Although her views are a little, uh, "fringe," Ms. Kim's not actually unique or even very unusual in that. At a glance, it can actually be a little hard to find daylight between the Caldari outlook and the Sani Sabik, unless you look at it from the right angle. Both groups seem to see the world as a kind of howling wilderness where only the strong survive, and so end up a little obsessive about strength. There is a bright line, though: the Caldari, in the end, are about individual strength as a necessary ingredient in community strength-- and part of individual strength is knowing when you're becoming a burden on the community and it's time to take that long walk in the snow. The Sani Sabik seem to be more about personal power, and typically aspire to live forever even at the expense of ... well, everybody. It used to be that just meant eternal spiritual life, but, now, with cloning, I guess that's changing a little in places. The only thing the Caldari are aiming to make immortal is the Caldari. Individuals are expendable, as long as the whole moves on. "The Winds care for us, not for you or me."
A noble attitude in a community struggling to survive in adverse conditions, I'm sure. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4148
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Posted - 2017.06.01 14:20:54 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote: Although her views are a little, uh, "fringe," Ms. Kim's not actually unique or even very unusual in that.
Except, Aria, that she's clearly redefined 'The State' in her own personal headspace, to mean 'Me'. Anyone who disagrees with her is called a traitor. The statements of the CEP itself are denied and ignored in favor of Kim's personally-preferred version of reality.
She wraps it all in a manic declaration of loyalty to the State, but in the end, it's all about her aggrandizement, about her glory.
So very blooder.
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3950
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Posted - 2017.06.01 14:32:11 -
[428] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote: Although her views are a little, uh, "fringe," Ms. Kim's not actually unique or even very unusual in that.
Except, Aria, that she's clearly redefined 'The State' in her own personal headspace, to mean 'Me'. Anyone who disagrees with her is called a traitor. The statements of the CEP itself are denied and ignored in favor of Kim's personally-preferred version of reality. She wraps it all in a manic declaration of loyalty to the State, but in the end, it's all about her aggrandizement, about her glory. So very blooder.
So-- here's the question, though: if that's what she's doing, can she tell?
The Sani Sabik, by and large, definitely can. |
kul Shaishi
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
31
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Posted - 2017.06.01 14:47:04 -
[429] - Quote
Probably not and anyway l personally define her as a warlord also known as a junfa F+ìTûÑ |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4155
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Posted - 2017.06.01 18:09:18 -
[430] - Quote
Aria Jenneth wrote: So-- here's the question, though: if that's what she's doing, can she tell?
The Sani Sabik, by and large, definitely can.
Counter-question: If she can, would she ever admit it? |
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3952
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Posted - 2017.06.01 18:15:38 -
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Arrendis wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:So-- here's the question, though: if that's what she's doing, can she tell?
The Sani Sabik, by and large, definitely can. Counter-question: If she can, would she ever admit it?
Get her drunk and ask?
(That's not actually a joke. She's the opposite of an angry drunk, so, it might be a good way to have a better conversation with her.) |
Ria Nieyli
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
50756
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Posted - 2017.06.01 18:41:28 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Arrendis wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote: Although her views are a little, uh, "fringe," Ms. Kim's not actually unique or even very unusual in that.
Except, Aria, that she's clearly redefined 'The State' in her own personal headspace, to mean 'Me'. Anyone who disagrees with her is called a traitor. The statements of the CEP itself are denied and ignored in favor of Kim's personally-preferred version of reality. She wraps it all in a manic declaration of loyalty to the State, but in the end, it's all about her aggrandizement, about her glory. So very blooder. So-- here's the question, though: if that's what she's doing, can she tell? The Sani Sabik, by and large, definitely can.
Oh, she knows what she's doing. I had the unfortunate first hand experience and was too naive to see what's going on initially. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3956
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Posted - 2017.06.01 20:45:32 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Oh, she knows what she's doing. I had the unfortunate first hand experience and was too naive to see what's going on initially.
I see....
That's a little strange. I'd expect a calculated course of action to move a little differently. |
Ria Nieyli
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
50766
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Posted - 2017.06.01 20:51:03 -
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Well, that's because she presents in a different manner yo her internal workings. You don't see everything that's going on, and for a reason. It really messes with your head and I was starting to become the same way. |
kul Shaishi
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
32
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Posted - 2017.06.01 21:03:37 -
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Ria What are Kim's internal workings anyway. Can you explain them to us |
Ria Nieyli
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
50767
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Posted - 2017.06.01 21:15:45 -
[436] - Quote
Yes, I can. Not sure I want to, though. |
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
444
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Posted - 2017.06.02 01:10:12 -
[437] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote: Although her views are a little, uh, "fringe," Ms. Kim's not actually unique or even very unusual in that.
Except, Aria, that she's clearly redefined 'The State' in her own personal headspace, to mean 'Me'. Anyone who disagrees with her is called a traitor. The statements of the CEP itself are denied and ignored in favor of Kim's personally-preferred version of reality. She wraps it all in a manic declaration of loyalty to the State, but in the end, it's all about her aggrandizement, about her glory. So very blooder. Characterizing Sani Sabik only by self-aggrandizing ambitions is as accurate as saying if something has a pedicel it's an apple.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4157
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Posted - 2017.06.02 09:16:27 -
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Ashlar Vellum wrote: Characterizing Sani Sabik only by self-aggrandizing ambitions is as accurate as saying if something has a pedicel it's an apple.
Fortunately, I didn't do that. Saying 'self-aggrandizing behavior is reminiscent of the Blood Raiders' is not 'All Sani Sabik only ever act like that' or even 'self-aggrandizment is all there is to the Sani Sabik'.
It's more like if I were to take your statement as not really bothering with my meaning, and only responding with that you wanted to see in it, and say 'how very Amarr'.
You know, if I did that.
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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3960
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Posted - 2017.06.02 12:56:57 -
[439] - Quote
Graelyn wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:You mean did an active copy of me hack her own backup copy in long-term storage and leave that copy a sinister note about it to pass on to herself?
... No.
Or at least, it's not very likely. Funny, it sounds a lot like one of my Red Protocols.
Well ... you're not the first to say such a thing, my lord. Only, first, whoever it was left a "note" that doesn't make a lot of sense if it's really aimed at me. I think they expected it to reach my predecessor, some way or other.
Maybe it has.
The other thing is, I don't ... really believe that amnesia lifts all sins from a person's soul. It's why I stay away from Achura, my homeworld: I'm a murderer there, of pretty much the worst sort, a kinslayer. And, I can almost guarantee the Cartel wouldn't just forgive me just because I can't remember who I was, either. They have no reason to let me escape retaliation just by resetting my head.
Since I haven't been tortured to death yet, I'm guessing they're the ones responsible for this, or, at least, I serve a role more useful to them than "object lesson." Since I don't feel like I owe them anything at all, I probably serve that role just by existing.
Most likely, I'm bait. |
Graelyn
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1131
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Posted - 2017.06.02 13:11:08 -
[440] - Quote
((try other thread ))
Cardinal Graelyn
Imperial Liaison, I-RED
Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
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Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
445
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Posted - 2017.06.02 16:29:43 -
[441] - Quote
Arrendis wrote:Ashlar Vellum wrote: Characterizing Sani Sabik only by self-aggrandizing ambitions is as accurate as saying if something has a pedicel it's an apple.
Fortunately, I didn't do that. Saying 'self-aggrandizing behavior is reminiscent of the Blood Raiders' is not 'All Sani Sabik only ever act like that' or even 'self-aggrandizment is all there is to the Sani Sabik'. It's more like if I were to take your statement as not really bothering with my meaning, and only responding with that you wanted to see in it, and say 'how very Amarr'. You know, if I did that. Ok, what did you say then when you posted "... it's all about her aggrandizement, about her glory. So very blooder."? |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2444
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Posted - 2017.06.02 16:32:40 -
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Ashlar Vellum wrote:Arrendis wrote:Ashlar Vellum wrote: Characterizing Sani Sabik only by self-aggrandizing ambitions is as accurate as saying if something has a pedicel it's an apple.
Fortunately, I didn't do that. Saying 'self-aggrandizing behavior is reminiscent of the Blood Raiders' is not 'All Sani Sabik only ever act like that' or even 'self-aggrandizment is all there is to the Sani Sabik'. It's more like if I were to take your statement as not really bothering with my meaning, and only responding with that you wanted to see in it, and say 'how very Amarr'. You know, if I did that. Ok, what did you say then when you posted "... it's all about her aggrandizement, about her glory. So very blooder."?
He said: "... it's all about her aggrandizement, about her glory. So very blooder."
Why would you ask that when you have the quote right there?
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Graelyn
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1135
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Posted - 2017.06.02 16:48:35 -
[443] - Quote
No, You.
Cardinal Graelyn
Imperial Liaison, I-RED
Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4158
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Posted - 2017.06.02 17:31:18 -
[444] - Quote
Ashlar Vellum wrote:Ok, what did you say then when you posted "... it's all about her aggrandizement, about her glory. So very blooder."?
Well, given that I was building on the earlier statement that Diana's about 'blood drinking' away from being a Blood Raider, I would've thought it would be clear that I was saying her self-aggrandizement was the same kind of behavior you might expect to find in them.
Note: Just because you expect to find X behavior in a population doesn't mean X behavior is the only behavior they exhibit, or that that that behavior is the singular defining trait of a larger population (the Sani Sabik) of which your example (the Blood Raiders) are a subset.
Claudia Osyn wrote:He said
I already run around without pants on, do I have to make the shirt short enough that people can tell I don't wear shorts, too? NOT A 'HE'.
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Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
448
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Posted - 2017.06.02 17:37:05 -
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Arrendis wrote:do I have to make the shirt short enough that people can tell I don't wear shorts, too? NOT A 'HE'.
I feel that would help |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2445
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Posted - 2017.06.02 22:02:40 -
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Halcyon Ember wrote:Arrendis wrote:do I have to make the shirt short enough that people can tell I don't wear shorts, too? NOT A 'HE'.
I feel that would help If I typo enough, will we get nudes?
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4167
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Posted - 2017.06.02 22:40:26 -
[447] - Quote
Not mine, but sure. |
Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
461
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Posted - 2017.06.03 18:48:35 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Halcyon Ember wrote:Arrendis wrote:do I have to make the shirt short enough that people can tell I don't wear shorts, too? NOT A 'HE'.
I feel that would help If I typo enough, will we get nudes? I'd prefer to reward people for typing correctly, myself. |
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
2447
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Posted - 2017.06.04 07:26:05 -
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Halcyon Ember wrote:Claudia Osyn wrote:Halcyon Ember wrote:Arrendis wrote:do I have to make the shirt short enough that people can tell I don't wear shorts, too? NOT A 'HE'.
I feel that would help If I typo enough, will we get nudes? I'd prefer to reward people for typing correctly, myself. Hey, I wasn't the one offering to further unclothe myself for spelling errors. If I can get a reward for a mistake, I'll take advantage.
A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
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Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
469
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Posted - 2017.06.06 11:24:14 -
[450] - Quote
Ok, from now on removing clothing should only be used as a reward for good behaviour |
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