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Falzone
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Falzone on 05/01/2004 03:11:57 Quitting a corp in space is no longer a viable option since it was changed in the last patch to only allow you to quit a corp when you are docked. I login today to find a email from a GM I won't post the exact message since these polaris will just snip it out. But he siad that i have been found guilty of using an exploit where i quit my corp in battle to get concord to attack the people shooting at me and that if i did it again i would be Banned. What he said I did isn't even possible to quit in space anymore so how did I do it. I didn't do it period nor would I.
A few months ago someone my corp was at war with did that to us and quit their corp in the middle of a battle and 3 of our battleships were lost. We reported it and the ships were replaced and they said it was an exploit. I know doing that is an exploit from that incident so i know not to do it. If polaris or gms are reading this and going to delete the post I am only posting this because I fear that someone just reported me for doing this lately and somehow the gm believed him and sent me that message. I am posting this cause I want to make clear that I did not do this nor could I cause of game mechanics since the castor patch. I am deeply offended by that message from the GM I know I did not do that and I'm outraged that you would say I did with such certainty of me being guilty.
Please don't post on this topic flaming me for the corp thief that I was or pirate that I am or saying that I got what I deserved or something.
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StealthNet
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: StealthNet on 05/01/2004 03:20:31
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Falzone Gallente The Scope
Nice to see that you are not in Space Invaders anymore and still use their sig. It backs up pretty well your post  _______________________________________________
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:30:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 05/01/2004 03:31:37
"I am deeply offended by that message from the GM I know I did not do that and I'm outraged that you would say I did with such certainty of me being guilty."
Employment history
Corporation: E.P.A. - 2004.01.02 01:56:00 Corporation: The Scope - 2004.01.02 18:45:00 Corporation: E.P.A. - 2004.01.02 21:21:00 Corporation: The Scope - 2004.01.02 22:22:00 Corporation: E.P.A. - 2004.01.03 21:56:00 Corporation: The Scope - 2004.01.04 03:26:00
that message from GM, it wouldn't be actually about exploiting the ability to shield yourself from legal war declared on E.P.A. by joining NPC corporation whenever it happens to be convenient for you... would it? :s
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Falzone
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:33:00 -
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Josephine yea i have joined and quit epa a few times but thats not illegal. and i didn't quit in the middle of a battle. I docked and quit everytime.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:34:00 -
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seriously lmao here...
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:37:00 -
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Perhaps it has now been decreed that repeatedly quitting a corp, then rejoining it later, is an exploit in itself, because it allows you to dock, switch, fly off in safety, then switch back when you're clear of any danger.
Be nice if they'd made that clear before they started warning people for it, though.
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StealthNet
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:37:00 -
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Quote: Josephine yea i have joined and quit epa a few times but thats not illegal. and i didn't quit in the middle of a battle. I docked and quit everytime.
Yeah, sure, whatever 
It's a matter of intentions my dear 
Please post some more, Im with a terrible headache, I can use some good laughing  _______________________________________________
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Code404
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:41:00 -
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Quote: Josephine yea i have joined and quit epa a few times but thats not illegal. and i didn't quit in the middle of a battle. I docked and quit everytime.
...same issue, you quit to evade a hostile action, hoping to dupe the hostiles into shooting at you, thinking you are in the corp they are at war with, and they wouldn't get shot for it.... i.e., you exploited the mechanics to save your butt, while causing GRIEF to others, or attempting too....
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Falzone
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:41:00 -
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What you guys are saying is changing the subject from what they say I did. So what if I docked and quit my corp then flew off to safety. I can quit or join any corp I want to anytime I want to as all of you can. If they don't want me to be able to do this make it mechanicly impossible to do otherwise its not exploiting.
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Serilla
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:47:00 -
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Lol
Thanks for the laugh falzone
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:49:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 05/01/2004 03:51:08
"If they don't want me to be able to do this make it mechanicly impossible to do otherwise its not exploiting."
Uhmm, if something is mechanically impossible to do, then it's also impossible to exploit by doing that. :s
You can only exploit game mechanics by using them in the way the developers didn't intend, or making use of the game bug.
Apparently quitting and re-joining your corporation over and over when you are at war with someone else so they cannot attack you is considered an exploit, and you were told that by the GM. Really no reason to cause storm over it; learn and adapt.
btw, according to your ex-corpmate* limpy bint, it's also "gh3y tactics" as "Concord is nobody's ally" But that's another story. :s
*) or current, or soon-to-be corpmate, depending if you joined/quit E.P.A. again already
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:51:00 -
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Quote: or current, or soon-to-be corpmate, depending if you joined/quite E.P.A. again already
Stop it!
I cant take anymore!!!
  
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StealthNet
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Posted - 2004.01.05 03:59:00 -
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What you guys are saying is changing the subject from what they say I did. So what if I docked and quit my corp then flew off to safety. I can quit or join any corp I want to anytime I want to as all of you can. If they don't want me to be able to do this make it mechanicly impossible to do otherwise its not exploiting.
Sure, there are thousands, millions of things that are possible to do "mechanically", and the fact that they are, don't make them right. Maybe "right" is not a good word, since there are infinite shades of gray between black and white, but definitely, not something I would do.
Also, there are no mechanical issues with EVE that really asks a player to quit and join a corp repeatedly *but* avoiding a corp war or trying to fool your enemy into opening fire.
In fact, that only proves one thing for sure: that you are really unsure about what corp you wanna join  _______________________________________________
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2004.01.05 04:11:00 -
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So next time my mom smacks me for messing up the kitchen floor once again with my jogging shoes IŠm gonna tell her how unfair she is because I didnŠt do it when she was at home and RL-mechanics allow it.
Best laugh I had in a while...
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Melchidael
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Posted - 2004.01.05 04:16:00 -
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Falzone, you're missing the point. It's irrelevant that you quit when you were docked; you quit and rejoined the same corp several times during the course of a war that was actively being fought by that corp. I can't think of any other reason to do so than to evade the combat involved with that war (and my guess would be that the GMs think similarly).
"If it's illegal, the game shouldn't let me do it" isn't an excuse either -- just ask certain famous personalities in the pirate realms.
All of this could be understood: you messed up, the GMs called you on it. But you also come on here indignantly protesting the results of your actions? That's impressive. 
Do yourself a favor...quit while you're ahea...erm...stop before you look like a...uhm...just quit now.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.05 04:21:00 -
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Falzone you really are a special man.
EPA sack this muppet's numpty-ass already!
He insults the intelligence of Lonetrek by living.
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Falzone
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Posted - 2004.01.05 04:40:00 -
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you guys are all *******s.
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CHUMSICLE
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Posted - 2004.01.05 04:47:00 -
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lol
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.01.05 05:02:00 -
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  _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

HostageTaker
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Posted - 2004.01.05 05:04:00 -
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This thread rocks!!!

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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.05 05:04:00 -
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Want some respect m'dear?
Don't cheat.
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Antelope
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Posted - 2004.01.05 05:05:00 -
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Falzone I hope this is settled, people think that if something like that happens to a pirate that they deserve it. Well they need to put themselves in your shoes.
I support you my friend.
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.01.05 05:09:00 -
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haha this is to much... end yourself, your making a bigger A** of yourself than i thought was possible!
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.05 05:13:00 -
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Quote: Falzone I hope this is settled, people think that if something like that happens to a pirate that they deserve it. Well they need to put themselves in your shoes.
Problem is, I couldn't conceive of a situation where I was so yellow-bellied that I was prepared to cheat to avoid the circumstances of my in-game actions.
How then can I visualise myself in this wormling's shoes?
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mrmille
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Posted - 2004.01.05 05:33:00 -
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I didnt belive this at first now i realize that some pilots where born with a mental handicap
Thanks for making a difference Falzone.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2004.01.05 05:43:00 -
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Employment history
Corporation: E.P.A. - 2004.01.02 01:56:00 Corporation: The Scope - 2004.01.02 18:45:00 Corporation: E.P.A. - 2004.01.02 21:21:00 Corporation: The Scope - 2004.01.02 22:22:00 Corporation: E.P.A. - 2004.01.03 21:56:00 Corporation: The Scope - 2004.01.04 03:26:00
   
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Falzone
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Posted - 2004.01.05 06:05:00 -
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shut up jade you never fight so i don't think you should be talking about yellow-bellied.
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Falzone
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Posted - 2004.01.05 06:06:00 -
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why must you guys always flame these posts you guys are all losers.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.05 06:06:00 -
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No comment on Falzone's actions. It's not necessary.
But I've got a notoriously low tolerance to hypocrisy. And an even lower tolerance for people that not only live in glass houses, but preach from a glass pedestal. 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Lucas De'Thal
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Posted - 2004.01.05 06:19:00 -
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maybe you should quit eve, that would solve your problems......
oh that's right, you've already tried that.....  ______________________________________________ Hellmar > sorry for the attitude, playing a n00b character through the current state just left me a bit bitter dev chat: Mar 18, 2004
hellmar> "you lot are just so clever you have a good history for out smarting us :-S " dev chat: Feb 12, 2004 |
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