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StealthNet	Posted - 2004.01.05 12:36:00 - [61] Quote: This is as feeble as it could be, what is exploit to you, might be legit for someone else. Are you to make such call? That's why there is a thing called warnings. _______________________________________________
Wild Rho	Posted - 2004.01.05 12:37:00 - [62] It is an exploit. The devs are only human and cannot forsee every form of exploit that may occur. In this case a person quits their corp to avoid the reprocussions of the war they are involved in and rejoins once they are safetly at their destination. This goes against the very idea of the war. Just becuase it was not anticipated by the devs and therefore didn't have some form of counter does not mean its ok to use it. Sadley the only way to spot many exploits of game mechanics is to wait until somone acctually uses it. I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it...
Yggdrassil	Posted - 2004.01.05 12:50:00 - [63] Finally... Seeing that Falzone receives a warning about that exploit really makes me think this game is improving! Seems to me that they've considered what he did, why he did it, and then ruled that he "used a flaw in the game mechanic to gain an unfair etc etc advantage" := EXPLOIT. (Not accurate quote - but something like that). Just one word for it: GREAT! If CCP now would keep it up - look at ppls INTENT when they do this and that... We'd end up with a better game. (Side-note: I 2nd the one that said it's good rp from Falzone keeping his char instead of using alt after the corp theft.) Yggdrassil
Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.01.05 13:15:00 - [64] Quote: Quote: Hmm...and there I thought nobody 'got it'. Nice, Zarquon While no one wants to be a victim of a GM rampaging down the wrong path (i.e. we are innocent of the crime accused) it seems fairly obvious that Falzone does indeed exploit by constantly quitting the corporation only to rejoin it in the next station. I personally don't care what he did before, I only see a guy complaining about using dubious tactics to cover his arse, being reprimanded for it and then crying about it here. Sorry but nothing I can agree with there Jash, you btw have a pretty high horse. No, I don't have a high horse. My horses were pretty normal, thank you. I'm just getting pretty damn sick of some of the petty hypocrites around here opening their mouths to berate others about fair/foul play. Now should I take mah boomstick to the knees of your horse, Riddari? Seeing as how you found it appropriate to question my behavior while ignoring my first post in this thread which started with: "No comment on Falzone's actions. It's not necessary" I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Bad Harlequin	Posted - 2004.01.05 13:20:00 - [65] Oh Jash, your horse at the very least is sporting some platform hoofwear . I hate to disrupt a good slingfest (and thanks to polaris and crew for not consigning this thread to oblivion, tho maybe they're just not awake yet...) but couldn't this all be avoided by having a similar waiting period for corp-quitting as there is for character termination? You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.01.05 13:22:00 - [66] spot on. -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Hardin	Posted - 2004.01.05 13:25:00 - [67] I just feel sorry for the poor sod who has chased Falzone into a station. Waits for him to undock, opens fire and then gets owned by Concord. How many of you people defending Falzone can honestly say that you check your enemy's corporation everytime he undocks? How would you feel to lose a BS to this? It is a lame tactic and as j0 has pointed out an exploit! Falzone CCP were right to WARN you... Thanks for highlighting the subject though as at least everyone is warned about this now!
Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.01.05 13:28:00 - [68] Quote: Oh Jash, your horse at the very least is sporting some platform hoofwear . BH, there's a point which really shouldn't be crossed. I may seem amoral to most people. But strangely enough I do have some very strong morals and convictions. I just don't act like a silly jackass and expect others to actually live up to my personal code of 'honor' by bashing them to death with reproachment for failing to do so. But hypocrisy can make me go there. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Zarquon Beeblebrox	Posted - 2004.01.05 13:35:00 - [69] Quote: I just feel sorry for the poor sod who has chased Falzone into a station. Waits for him to undock, opens fire and then gets owned by Concord. How many of you people defending Falzone can honestly say that you check your enemy's corporation everytime he undocks? How would you feel to lose a BS to this? It is a lame tactic and as j0 has pointed out an exploit! Falzone CCP were right to WARN you... Thanks for highlighting the subject though as at least everyone is warned about this now! You and many here are asuming to much. You have no knowlede to say this. You dont even know if he was fired at 1minute or 3 houers after he had quited his corp. I see no one here defending falzone for the quiting of his corp. I ame defending falzone for some pritty lame comments towards him as a person and human. "end your self" "you should quit playing eve" "you are so #put in what you like here#" This have nothing to do with what falzone is expresing in this thread. If you read what he says, he says that he have been warned for quiting in battle. If this is possible or not i dont know, but he argu its not even possible. If thats so then CCP us basicly wrong as usaly. Falzone as a char is a bastard. I would be the first to agree to that, but this topic is out of character and you should act the same way. And when you do, get your act to gether and act as a thinking person with some respect for the individ. If no one will speak whats wrong ill be the first to step in. And this boards need more friendly people dooing exactly that in a maner that atleast try to get past the arguing between my litle sister and brother at age 9 and 5 -- Lady Beeblebrox Teddybears movies
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.01.05 13:38:00 - [70] Quote: No, I don't have a high horse. My horses were pretty normal, thank you. I'm just getting pretty damn sick of some of the petty hypocrites around here opening their mouths to berate others about fair/foul play. Who are the hypocrites Jash? I think its time for you to produce the employment histories of other people on this thread knocking Falzone for serial corp-war evasion while doing it themselves. Isn't that what hypocrites do Jash? Or are you simply throwing some mud from your high horse? JF Public Forum

Zarthan	Posted - 2004.01.05 13:46:00 - [71] Quiting your copr is a lame tactic and it's nice to see ccp doing something about those lame tactics. I've seen this a lot in the past and it's really rather ridiculous that people will do things to cause wars then try to exploit game mechanics to avoid the wars. Falzone I think you would have been better served not posting that complaint as it was pretty clear you were exploiting the game mechanics. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.01.05 14:14:00 - [72] Edited by: Jarjar on 05/01/2004 14:14:38 Haha, first, I cannot believe you actually created this thread yourself. Comedy gold Quote: How many of you people defending Falzone can honestly say that you check your enemy's corporation everytime he undocks? Okay, as you might see, I don't support him at all (I was close to petitioning this yesterday when I saw his employment history), BUT. If someone docks and quits the corp, wouldn't that mean the ticker is no longer displayed when you undock? People not even checking the ticker before they attack should really change their habits. Also, if this actually occured during a war, the attacker should also make sure that the orange reticle is displayed. /me gives thread an imaginary score of 5/5
Code404	Posted - 2004.01.05 14:25:00 - [73] Quote: Edited by: Luc Boye on 05/01/2004 12:28:14 Quote: CCP made the call smartguy, so stfu and stop trying to validate your intention to cheat in the game by using what you deem NOT an exploit. Cheat by using the explolit, get caught using the exploit, get banned by CCP for using the exploit...simple enough for ya? First of all pimple-face I was not involved. I don't have intention nor need to use this. The question was relevant. As for you, stop posting with your alt you piece of **. you are violating the forums rules. Insulting others and using profanity. Pann will be displeased!**
Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.01.05 14:30:00 - [74] Quote: Quote: No, I don't have a high horse. My horses were pretty normal, thank you. I'm just getting pretty damn sick of some of the petty hypocrites around here opening their mouths to berate others about fair/foul play. Who are the hypocrites Jash? I think its time for you to produce the employment histories of other people on this thread knocking Falzone for serial corp-war evasion while doing it themselves. Isn't that what hypocrites do Jash? Or are you simply throwing some mud from your high horse? Posted - 05/01/2004 06:06:00 Quote: No comment on Falzone's actions. It's not necessary. Were my words. "It's not neessary" being rather pertinent. Again, don't go there. You're starting to grate some of my morals and ethics in my code of 'honor' against one another. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Bad Harlequin	Posted - 2004.01.05 14:55:00 - [75] Quote: Quote: Oh Jash, your horse at the very least is sporting some platform hoofwear . BH, there's a point which really shouldn't be crossed. I may seem amoral to most people. But strangely enough I do have some very strong morals and convictions. I just don't act like a silly jackass and expect others to actually live up to my personal code of 'honor' by bashing them to death with reproachment for failing to do so. But hypocrisy can make me go there. of all the flames i've ignited in your direction... this wasn't one. lighten up You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike.
Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.01.05 14:58:00 - [76] Quote: Quote: Quote: Oh Jash, your horse at the very least is sporting some platform hoofwear . BH, there's a point which really shouldn't be crossed. I may seem amoral to most people. But strangely enough I do have some very strong morals and convictions. I just don't act like a silly jackass and expect others to actually live up to my personal code of 'honor' by bashing them to death with reproachment for failing to do so. But hypocrisy can make me go there. of all the flames i've ignited in your direction... this wasn't one. lighten up Check your mail ingame I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Hardin	Posted - 2004.01.05 14:59:00 - [77] Quote: BUT. If someone docks and quits the corp, wouldn't that mean the ticker is no longer displayed when you undock? People not even checking the ticker before they attack should really change their habits. Also, if this actually occured during a war, the attacker should also make sure that the orange reticle is displayed. Good points!
Bad Harlequin	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:01:00 - [78] Quote: Quote: I just feel sorry for the poor sod who has chased Falzone into a station. Waits for him to undock, opens fire and then gets owned by Concord. How many of you people defending Falzone can honestly say that you check your enemy's corporation everytime he undocks? How would you feel to lose a BS to this? It is a lame tactic and as j0 has pointed out an exploit! Falzone CCP were right to WARN you... Thanks for highlighting the subject though as at least everyone is warned about this now! You and many here are asuming to much. You have no knowlede to say this. You dont even know if he was fired at 1minute or 3 houers after he had quited his corp. I see no one here defending falzone for the quiting of his corp. I ame defending falzone for some pritty lame comments towards him as a person and human. "end your self" "you should quit playing eve" "you are so #put in what you like here#" This have nothing to do with what falzone is expresing in this thread. They everything to do with it. I'm sorry, but when you skirt the edges of exploit and throw, deliberately, any concept of "fair play" out the window for your own good time and giving no thought to anyone else's, you'd better at least have the intestinal fortitude to deal with the inevitable legions of fans you're going to generate. I'm not sure what you're on about, Zarq, honestly. Fal's been a jerk, by his own admission, and he has every right to be as far as pirating and even, sadly, corpthievery. And everyone else has the right to get ***ed off at him. There are lines that shouldn't be crossed; but every time some shady player gets on here trying to play the I Been Wronged card it is his* post that breaks the line first, frankly. That's just pushing it, and everyone's ***edoffedness now grounds into you. WTF was he expecting? The whole thrust of his post, after all, is that we should, on his say-so as on honest fair-playin' guy, believe his word that he was not and has not exploited vs. a GM's that he may have been and that he might be banned if he exploits. Read that again. He may be banned if he uses the exploit.* He says he doesn't exploit. So there's no problem, RIGHT? What i and Hardin and many others see, is some git who skirts the exploit line to grief others who now comes on here... what, to get sympathy? Because he misjudged where that line was? Ooops. Poor You. Have a cookie. You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike.
Bad Harlequin	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:03:00 - [79] Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Oh Jash, your horse at the very least is sporting some platform hoofwear . BH, there's a point which really shouldn't be crossed. I may seem amoral to most people. But strangely enough I do have some very strong morals and convictions. I just don't act like a silly jackass and expect others to actually live up to my personal code of 'honor' by bashing them to death with reproachment for failing to do so. But hypocrisy can make me go there. of all the flames i've ignited in your direction... this wasn't one. lighten up Check your mail ingame if i could DO YOU THINK I'D BE SCREWING AROUND HERE ah, monday. nice to see all the after-holiday traffic back on the roads too... argh You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike.
Bizarre	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:07:00 - [80] Bad Harlequin hit the nail on its head. Good post and I fully agree with what he said. ------------------------------------------------- Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?

Riana Tabost	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:13:00 - [81] Edited by: Riana Tabost on 05/01/2004 15:15:27 This topic has brought out the worst in some of you forum bigshots... I'll put in my 0.02ISK: Jade says numpty far too often. As for Bad Harlequin... pant, wibble. __________________________________________________________________________ May I recommend a Cybernetic Subprocessor?.. That's an intelligence implant, sweetheart. Ideas Lab - Reprocessing
Orestes	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:17:00 - [82] Page two, full of flaming. Thread locked.. Join the IC!
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:19:00 - [83] Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 05/01/2004 15:22:59 Quote: Page two, full of flaming. NO LET ME IN BEFORE LOCK! Edit: OMG, Orestes is getting sloowwwwww. Third edit really slow. _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:19:00 - [84] Quote: [quote Check your mail ingame if i could DO YOU THINK I'D BE SCREWING AROUND HERE ah, monday. nice to see all the after-holiday traffic back on the roads too... argh Should get a job where you can hop ingame while at work I know full well what Falzone did. If I knew him and knew what he was about to post, I'd have told him he shouldn't play with matches while soaked in gasoline. But I don't know him and we've got a scene reminiscent of the closing skit from Richard Pryor Live on the Sunset Strip. For the rest, well you'll have to read your mail I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Riana Tabost	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:19:00 - [85] Coincidence? I think not. __________________________________________________________________________ May I recommend a Cybernetic Subprocessor?.. That's an intelligence implant, sweetheart. Ideas Lab - Reprocessing
Riana Tabost	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:22:00 - [86] Orestes rolls a 1 and has a critical fumble, dropping the keys... __________________________________________________________________________ May I recommend a Cybernetic Subprocessor?.. That's an intelligence implant, sweetheart. Ideas Lab - Reprocessing
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:23:00 - [87] Quote: Orestes rolls a 1 and has a critical fumble, dropping the keys... Drethen rolls a six and strikes a critical spam! _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Orestes	Posted - 2004.01.05 15:23:00 - [88] omg stupid forum getting slow on me Join the IC!


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