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Tilla Hun	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Tilla Hun on 11/05/2007 21:36:34 Bloody annoying. You dont wanna risk PVP because of it. You May wanna risk you ship - because of insurance, but your pod? No. Remove implants. EDIT: Sorry - editing here. If you're a Vet - you can afford buying 4-500 mill in implants. Noobs cant. You gain adavantage. Silly. Purely Silly. If you have 4-500 mill in your head, chances are that you dont wanna risk loosing it. Clone jump? Screw that - you're not clone jumping 8 times a day to pvp/fit your playstyle because of 2 things. You cant - there's a 24 hour delay. YOu wouldnt do that - because you loose precious "training skill time". Drop implants please.
KaptnSparrow Caldari TARDZ Gods of Night and Day	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:37:00 - [2] Edited by: KaptnSparrow on 11/05/2007 21:36:06 if you remove implants i kick you butt , i just bought 2 +4 sets and 1 + set last night for my jump clones so better be quiet before somebody actually listens. On another note, why fix something thats not broken. They work fine and after a while you know how to pvp and barley get podded. in lowsec its nearly impossible to get podded anyway, except the evil evil lag monster gets to you... edit: forgot smiley, stupid me 0.0, if you get bubbled, you are very likley to get podded... --- we are open for applications convo me --- gonads are open for new members!
bogir War And Peace Construction	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:38:00 - [3] Edited by: bogir on 11/05/2007 21:37:19 its called jump clones... they you dont have implants to lose Edit : you dont need to jump 8 times a day -- if you die you end up in youre "new clone" not the one you jumped form...
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:39:00 - [4] I fly interdictors (aka paper ships) with +3 implant sets. What's my secret? All the skills I'm learning are like 20-30 days long so if I get podded I don't have to worry about getting a new set for a month
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:40:00 - [5] Originally by: Tilla Hun Bloody annoying. You dont wanna risk PVP because of it. You May wanna risk you ship - because of insurance, but your pod? No. Remove implants. What's with all the 'What if?' threads this week? I have implants. But they're crappy ones worth about 200k each in Essence. I want to PvP, but it's not the thought of losing those implants that's putting me off, nononononono... It's the constant feeling that I'm going to lose every fight, the current lack of cashflow (but that's my fault), the unwillingness to spend 3 hours buying a new ship of the same model and fitting it out again. But that's just me, who Nero kindly described as a "noob". ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:40:00 - [6] If I ever got a response from a corp mate saying "sry cant come expensive implants lolz" I will be highly tempted to pod them.
Tilla Hun	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:41:00 - [7] Edited by: Tilla Hun on 11/05/2007 21:38:43 Seriously - noone of you ppl are willing to risk your implants, and you are too lazy to use a jump clone. It prevents PVP. If we had no implants, the problem wouldnt exist.
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Tilla Hun Edited by: Tilla Hun on 11/05/2007 21:38:43 Seriously - noone of you ppl are willing to risk your implants, and you are too lazy to use a jump clone. It prevents PVP. If we had no implants, the problem wouldnt exist. Nobody on this thread said that so far but YOU. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
Willow Whisp	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:46:00 - [9] just becaouse You won't PvP in your implants doesn't mean people in general don't. Just because a couple of your corpmates won't PvP in their implants, doesn't mean people in general don't. Removing Implants from Carebears won't make us want to PvP more, it will simply require us to look for a different excuse. Those that want to PvP will, and those who don't won't. It's as simple as that. I'm the alt of the main that the forums picked, and i can't be arsed to go through the "settings" page to change it back, k?
Janu Hull Caldari Order of Z Industries	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:47:00 - [10] Stop crying and get your jump clone. Cripes. You make an educated decision about what you'll be doing that night/day, and you do it. If you're going to run missions, use the implant clone and rack up the ISKies. If not, park the implant clone and go rumble till your heart's content. I use three clones. The implant trainer, the no sec expendable, and the emergency reserve back at Corp headquarters (I move my clone contract around as needed, so its a failsafe against getting stuck someplace I can't escape). I might someday turn the reserve into a combat implant toon as I get my hands on sets of more effective implants. This is my sig, there are many others just like it. With me, my sig is worthless. Without (or with even) my sig, I am worthless...
Coen DeTormentor M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:57:00 - [11] Edited by: Coen DeTormentor on 11/05/2007 22:05:10 Edited by: Coen DeTormentor on 11/05/2007 21:55:29 Start risking your clones. Use your implants. /signed EDIT: Seriously - beeing witout implants would feel like a releife ... but thats just a personal opinion.
Fanjita	Posted - 2007.05.11 21:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Tilla Hun Edited by: Tilla Hun on 11/05/2007 21:38:43 Seriously - noone of ME are willing to risk MY implants, and I AM too lazy to use a jump clone. It prevents PVP. If I had no implants, the problem wouldnt exist. Fixed Oh dont't use them if YOU dont like them
Tkar vonBiggendorf Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.11 22:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Tilla Hun If we had no implants, the problem wouldnt exist. How about you keep implants, but remove ships from the game? Then everybody can just sit around in the stations all day and nobody has to worry about losing a ship. Or implement a Save feature, like "regular" computer games. Don't like getting ganked at a gatecamp? Just reload and try again! There's a truth in life that's also very true in EVE, and can be viewed from a hundred different angles and still hold: Time is Money.
Tilla Hun	Posted - 2007.05.11 22:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Tkar vonBiggendorf Originally by: Tilla Hun If we had no implants, the problem wouldnt exist. How about you keep implants, but remove ships from the game? Then everybody can just sit around in the stations all day and nobody has to worry about losing a ship. Or implement a Save feature, like "regular" computer games. Don't like getting ganked at a gatecamp? Just reload and try again! There's a truth in life that's also very true in EVE, and can be viewed from a hundred different angles and still hold: Time is Money. So because you can't save - you preffer not to risk the assets? Yes, thats good in one way - it's Eve. But still - there's too many people who can't use "save" and doesnt want to risk "loosing their precious training time". Does it make any sense at all?
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.11 22:23:00 - [15] Edited by: SiJira on 11/05/2007 22:22:29 its not gonna happen as much as we want newbies to have an even playing field we have to have some sort of candy -and expect bigger and better things- for the older players i personally look forward to getting a full pirate set unlike you i dont cry if i get owned by someone with a worse ship setup than me just because they wear a nice implant set i bet the set costs more than my ship and all its mods anyways ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.11 22:31:00 - [16] Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 11/05/2007 22:22:29 its not gonna happen as much as we want newbies to have an even playing field we have to have some sort of candy -and expect bigger and better things- for the older players i personally look forward to getting a full pirate set unlike you i dont cry if i get owned by someone with a worse ship setup than me just because they wear a nice implant set i bet the set costs more than my ship and all its mods anyways I will pray to the God of EVE and hope you get gatecamped, podded and banned within days of purchasing said implants.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.11 23:09:00 - [17] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 11/05/2007 22:22:29 its not gonna happen as much as we want newbies to have an even playing field we have to have some sort of candy -and expect bigger and better things- for the older players i personally look forward to getting a full pirate set unlike you i dont cry if i get owned by someone with a worse ship setup than me just because they wear a nice implant set i bet the set costs more than my ship and all its mods anyways I will pray to the God of EVE and hope you get gatecamped, podded and banned within days of purchasing said implants. you might as well turn atheist if thats what you pray for :) i already got some :) ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
VicturusTeSaluto	Posted - 2007.05.11 23:10:00 - [18] Just suck it up and play with +3 implants. They give a decent boost, and are also cheap and disposable. If that is too much for you then just set a long skill to train before you get podded.
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.11 23:12:00 - [19] Edited by: The Pointless on 11/05/2007 23:10:25 Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 11/05/2007 22:22:29 its not gonna happen as much as we want newbies to have an even playing field we have to have some sort of candy -and expect bigger and better things- for the older players i personally look forward to getting a full pirate set unlike you i dont cry if i get owned by someone with a worse ship setup than me just because they wear a nice implant set i bet the set costs more than my ship and all its mods anyways I will pray to the God of EVE and hope you get gatecamped, podded and banned within days of purchasing said implants. you might as well turn atheist if thats what you pray for :) i already got some :) But not a full set though, which gives peeps plenty of time to track you down and gank you and your pod before it's too late. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.11 23:14:00 - [20] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Just suck it up and play with +3 implants. They give a decent boost, and are also cheap and disposable. If that is too much for you then just set a long skill to train before you get podded. i believe its been proven as of late the servers know when you stopped using the implant and at ETA it recalculates the proper amount of time so this glitch is just in the display ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Jacob Castillo Caldari Copperhead Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.11 23:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Tilla Hun If you're a Vet - you can afford buying 4-500 mill in implants. Noobs cant. You gain adavantage. Silly. Purely Silly. I wish this was true. Really, I do.
Paracyde	Posted - 2007.05.11 23:31:00 - [22] Just ignore this dude, CPP will never remove them, not that much use explaining it to one of the 300k players.
Empyre Domestic Reform	Posted - 2007.05.11 23:53:00 - [23] don't think it will ever happen, but what a liberating feeling that would be!! every time i trip and fall back into a set of implants it's always like coming out of a *****ed out binge when someone pries my almost lifeless body out of them. but man.. after you start flying without them it is indeed liberating.. you can take chances all you want and not have to worry about franticly searching for a moon to spam click when the ship starts fishtailing. People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:00:00 - [24] What if you instead as intended can manufacture implants? Also Known As
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:01:00 - [25] # Jump Clone Jump Clone Jump CEE ELL OWE ENN EEE Clone # Swings and roundabouts dear fellow, you either have optimum training and squeeze out every point possible, or you take the 24 hour hit where you don't have optimum training but instead have fun. ------------------------------------- Hold my calls and sack my cook -------------------------------------
Tilla Hun	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:03:00 - [26] Originally by: Empyre don't think it will ever happen, but what a liberating feeling that would be!! every time i trip and fall back into a set of implants it's always like coming out of a *****ed out binge when someone pries my almost lifeless body out of them. but man.. after you start flying without them it is indeed liberating.. you can take chances all you want and not have to worry about franticly searching for a moon to spam click when the ship starts fishtailing. Thank you! Exactly my thought. Once you're rid of them you'll never look back :)
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:17:00 - [27] few things to point out to some of yall characters now start with 800k so there aint no 300k implants give more than just attributes for sp training - much more clone jumping can only be done once every 24 hours running missions gets you more implants than you can hope for and any other pve activity can pay for implants pretty fast too you keep a set of +5 implants and you jump into them whenever you can ps yes some people here dont know so dont be offended if you do know ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
SiJira	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:19:00 - [28] Originally by: The Pointless But not a full set though, which gives peeps plenty of time to track you down and gank you and your pod before it's too late. if i get a full set it will be too late :) ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Tkar vonBiggendorf Gallente	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Tilla Hun Originally by: Tkar vonBiggendorf Originally by: Tilla Hun If we had no implants, the problem wouldnt exist. How about you keep implants, but remove ships from the game? Then everybody can just sit around in the stations all day and nobody has to worry about losing a ship. Or implement a Save feature, like "regular" computer games. Don't like getting ganked at a gatecamp? Just reload and try again! There's a truth in life that's also very true in EVE, and can be viewed from a hundred different angles and still hold: Time is Money. So because you can't save - you preffer not to risk the assets? Yes, thats good in one way - it's Eve. But still - there's too many people who can't use "save" and doesnt want to risk "loosing their precious training time". Does it make any sense at all? I obviously wasn't sarcastic enough. You don't lose training time. In fact, if you don't switch skills, your currently training one will continue to benefit from the implants you no longer have until it completes. How about you just avoid the implants yourself and leave them there for the rest of us that don't mind excersizing the "risk v. reward" principle? Going by your logic, we should also remove all Officer, Faction, and T2 gear from the game because it's too expensive and we might lose it.
Magnum III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.05.12 00:30:00 - [30] It seems a lot of things slow down actual PvP combat in this game. So t must be how it is sapposed to be, risk risk risk makes this game. Normal PvP just for the heck of it is not what this game is about IMO. Games like Unreal Tournament or Quake are for that, from what I can see.

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